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    MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by hmscott, Jul 11, 2017.

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    Potato_farm Notebook Geek

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    Im using conductonaut. Is it considered new?
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's better to remove what there is and start with a clean surface.
     
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    I saw in another post. Removing lm will require a lot of work. Not just a normal alcohol wipe but also polishing with sandpaper. Will that be needed or just a wipe will do????
     
  4. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I don't see this either as a pain (Old liquid metal). I see it more like a new fresh start :D Fix up fresh Liquid metal as @Potato_farm's new application is more like a nice walk in the park. You live while you learn :)
    As long it looks fresh Just apply enough on top and paint it out. Not too much as this misjahs-guide-on-how-not-to-liquid-metal-repaste
     
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  5. Potato_farm

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    As @Papusan said hahha i dont really find it a pain. Its time consuming but i kind if enjoy it. Ill let it rest for now. As theres zero throttling. But im definitely not settled for this. I will find time to open it up and see what went wrong
     
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    The danger is having different viscosities of material layered, and one more liquid than the other, with the solid base slippery and the top layer motive, it could run on you.

    Adding more to an already full coverage application would easily add too much.

    Yup, LM is a pain to use, that's what I am suggesting waiting and thinking about it, and make sure it's really bad enough to go through all that work again + cleaning.

    It's up to you. :)
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Mix it in if fresh.
    Just use the pencil, You will fast find out if it has hardened or not (his is one or two days old). Old LM = New
     
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    Ill try just touching up the lm first. As you said theres dangers or adding different liquids together is abit dangerous. Thank you all for your input and advise on this matter @hmscott and @Papusan . Ill give an update again once i have done a touch up!!!
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Post screenshoot of your job. Before and after. Good luck
     
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    OCP15K Notebook Guru

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    Anyone fixed the micro stuttering or low fps windowed mode???? It's damn annoying.
     
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  11. SkidrowSKT

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    Microstuttering is fixed by keeping the Nvidia Control panel opened with the green logo preview.
    FPS drops? Downgrade the dGPU driver, earlier versions are usually more stable.
     
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    Microstutter is hardware limitation associated with this technology since signal has to be pass-thru.
    Using an external monitor through mDP connector is probably the only way to get better experience.
     
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    Hi, I recently bought a MSI GE73VR after booting for few times. On idle, the temperatures are 42-52 degrees. Ambient Temperature is 32 degrees. Is it normal? Ps. Everything is updated.

    Secondly, I also have a trackpad issue. If I hold my finger there after clicking, the cursor will automatically move towards the end of the screen. ( Any direction randomly )
     
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    Undervolt your CPU to have less temps. Also, is it 32 degrees Celcius? That's too much.
     
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    lol wtf your ambient temp is 32 C? how can you game in that kind of weather? if ambient is 32 C then 42-52 C idle sounds about right.
     
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    Well, I live in Malaysia. So, its normal for me lol
     
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    The temperature is fine as long as it's not exceeding 90 degrees Celsius, use it fully.
    Are you using the stock driver? Or updated one? See below.
    http://download.msi.com/nb_drivers/..._Win10__Signed__msi_19.3.4.193_0x38d51817.zip
     
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    micro stuttering and all FPS issues solved with adding another stick of ram.
     
  19. antonydizzz

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    Hello guys!
    I really cant decide what laptop to buy. Im choosing between ge73vr and gt73evr with 1070. The only thing Im really scared is throttling. I don't mind if it's 90 C or too loud. I really don't want to buy GT because of its size, but I know there is no throttling problems. But GE looks amazing and it has enough power for me, but I've read some reviews and it throttled in some games. What do you think ? Usually, I don't play very heavy games like witcher 3, there are only 3 games I play, overwatch, pubg and path of exile. Will i face a throttling problem in these games ? What would you recomend ? Thank you in advance.
     
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    Most of the cases where the GE73VR throttles is when the CPU isn't undervolted. I'd still suggest the GE for the massive difference in size. The GT however has both a 120Hz screen and G-Sync. If you're more of a gamer than a person who moves a lot, you'd rather not get an Optimus laptop (it's a pain in the arse, I already see people in this thread regretting buying the GE because of Optimus).
     
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    Why optimus is a pain ? Im not gonna use it without being plugged into power socket. I guess that optimus should be off by default, isn't it ?
     
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    For one, Optimus can NEVER be turned off.
    You'll face very annoying microstutters here and there while just browsing the web or clicking on icons. And then, there are the ports which are not directly wired to the dGPU (think of it as a bridge where everything has to go through the iGPU before the dGPU, disadvantages of Optimus, even the 120Hz screen is wired to the iGPU). There is also a recording tool in Geforce Experience which will not work if the laptop has Optimus. It's up to you, G-Sync machines have none of these issues, but also have their own issues.
     
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    So, don't you reccomend to buy ge73vr ?
     
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    Like I said, it depends on what you really want to do. I use my GE63VR in both school and home for gaming, so despite the issues known about Optimus, it's a perfect compromise for me.
    If you're going to stay plugged in, all the time, especially using external monitors, go with a dGPU only laptop.
     
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    what kinda issues does does gysnc machines have? is it just for msi? I wanna weigh the differences.
     
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    The ones I know of: Very horrible battery life, GPUs (especially the GTX 1070) showing some display errors during games (seen in the GT62VR and the GT72VR) and even crashing/failing, in other words a lemon GPU
     
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    The left palm rest of my GX63VR seems to warm up even during idle, anyone else getting this?
     
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    I recently purchased an MSI GE73vr 7RF Raider and I am quite liking it. I have read through the entire thread, pretty good read, lots of useful info in here. I feel like a fool for asking since I am such a noob to this computer stuff, but I just am not 100% sure what steps to follow for flashing the bios. Everyone talks about it on here like it's nothing, but for whatever reason I am not sure how to do it, despite trying to make head or tails of MSI bad translation and numerous guides on the net. Would anyone be willing to help me out. Many thanks in advance
     
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    That's normal because that's where the components are.

    The BIOS is easy to flash. Download the BIOS file, unzip it, place files onto an USB flash drive (no more than 32GB).
    Restart the PC, go into BIOS setup, and find IN-BIOS flash utility, then perform update.
     
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    Well I keep getting an error. Says wrong image format type Error 11. I have the most recent bios on my usb drive
     
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  32. thattechgirl_viv

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    Make sure you are downloading the correct BIOS version for your system. Also, make sure to unzip the file after downloading it.
     
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    You will need to place the files on the root directory of your USB flash drive but not under any subfolders.
     
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    I appreciate the advice given but none of this is working. I don't know what I am doing wrong. Not that it matters but I am going to do a fresh installation and I was hoping to make a practice run so I don't mess it up when it counts.
     
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    Could you record video of what you had done? That should allow us to better assist you.
     
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    I somehow doubt that can happen. I will google and see if I can figure it out on my own. Clearly it's' user error.
     
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    @Kevin@GenTechPC

    Well I fixed the problem. Did a fresh instal, flashed the bios. I don't think I was able to clear out all of Defender though as there were a couple entries\ in autouns that I was unable to access. Not quite sure what I will do to rid that crap out of the system, but at least I fully understand the process now. Thanks to everyone for their help so far.

    Next up I will attempt to undervolt.......

    EDIT: cleared out defender, why it worked this time and not last is anyone's guess, but getting there through trial and error I guess
     
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    Someone who reads the forum!
     
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    Hi everyone. Can anyone please help me with this error? One of my friend MSI laptop bought 2 days ago have windows update error. The error says
    "There were some problems installing updates, but we'll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x8024402f)"
    After troubleshooting, There was another error and it says
    "Your computer appears to be correctly configured, but the device or resource (wpad.domain.name) is not responding"
    I have tried re installing windows. updated drivers. Flushed DNS. Still windows update does not work.
    Even downloading games in steam is problematic. for 4-5 Seconds it will download with high speed and then drops to 0kbps. (this was fixed editing DNS), And sometimes opening sites in google chrome takes few seconds
    My friend is using Wifi connected to a router. Not ethernet. Wifi adapter name is intel dual band wireless ac- 3168.
    Is this a router problem?
     
  40. SkidrowSKT

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    Most likely connectivity issues with the Intel card. Have you tried installing the driver which comes with the laptop?

    Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
     
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    Have any of you owners got your serviced laptop with more scuffs than before you sent it? I don't know how I should feel about my "fixed" GX63VR. They replaced the keyboard with defective LEDs, but the underside had new scuff marks. Also one funny thing to note, a sticker that has the PC Editors choice award was taken out without any explanation
     
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    I'd say it's probably because the GE63VR is hard to pry open. They've probably forced too much which made the scuff marks appear (maybe due to mild smashes)

    Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
     
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    I figured. For a laptop with powerful components this compact. I guess that's bound to happen, even at the hands of official technicians. Luckily, I'll get to slap on a leather skin on this within the week.
     
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    guys I am having issues installing windows 10 on my 960evo. For some reason in bios it will not show up as a bootable drive. Its installed in windows and formatted to the NFT and it shows up in the bios under storage devices but can not see it as a bootable device to install windows 10 on. Any help would be awesome.
    Oh I have the msi GE63vrf version it came with just an SSD m.2 no nvme stick.
     
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    For one: NVME SSDs are M.2 SSDs as well. M.2 can have a Sata or an NVME protocol.

    If your SSD doesn't show as a bootable drive, it means you've done things wrong. As far as I know, you must set the following options:

    1- Your boot drive must have a "GPT partition scheme for a UEFI computer". You can do this through rufus before burning your OS onto the drive. This will help the OS install in an NVME SSD with no errors or external drivers needed.

    2- Your boot mode should be set to UEFI instead of legacy. With the UEFI boot mode, your NVME SSD will be visible during the OS installation.

    Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
     
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    What version of Windows 10 are you installing? Make sure to do what SkidrowSKT said and check the BIOS.
    Also, when you boot from USB flash drive be sure to select UEFI: Name of USB flash drive in case you see both UEFI & Legacy.
     
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    Anyone successfully tried undervolting their 1070 in their 63VR? I set 1860MHz on 881mv and the performance suffers severly :(
     
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    Hey ,
    I have to replace my display on my Ge63 raider 001. It has a
    "Chi Mei N156HHE-GA1"
    But I can only find
    "Innolux N156HHE-GA1"
    Is there a Difference between the two ?

    2nd question :
    There's a 4k display version of this same laptop that's not available in the US region , Does anyone have one? Or know the Display model number ? Also , could I use the 4k display from the overseas ge63 raider on my U.S Ge63 ?
     
  49. Donald@Paladin44

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    This is a duplicate post. I answered at http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...or-the-msi-rep-2.795226/page-54#post-10694211

    The N156HHE-GA1 screens are the same.

    The 4K screen is the LG LP156UD1-SPB1 - see http://www.panelook.com/LP156UD1-SPB1_LG Display_15.6_LCM_overview_26868.html. You will need a different LCD cable if you want to switch to 4K.

    Are you sure you want to go to 4K? It is much slower, and presents a tiny image for web browsing, and business productivity applications. Most gamers do not find it preferable because FPS, refresh rate and response times are all slower.
     
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    I might be getting my third ge73vr. Just wanted to know how many others here needed to return their notebooks or am I the only one with such bad luck.
     
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