MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

Tested with the Nvidia driver who followed the laptop? Or tested latest driver from MSI's own download web page? If not, test it.

Check the fits (Pads). As well check how the thermal paste spread out.

 

I saw the pads which i replaced, seems about .5mm thicker. Didnt think it would have affected it so mucb =/

I actually did the repaste with kryonaut twice. The first time i used the spread method and my temps jumped up. Second time i tried the pea for my cpu and x for my gpu. Which is now.

Ill just leave it for now till i do amother repaste and see which part i went wrong with. But i have a feeling its more on the pads =/

 

Too thick pads will raise the HS from Die. Too much, is too much.

 

Oh no i meant the ones that i replaced was thinner. By about 0.5mm. Would that have affected???

 

Tested on both drivers from MSI product page and the new ones from Nvidia. Still capped at 60-70fps. Is my hardware broke or something?

 

Sorry, my mistake. Thinner pads shouldn’t have this affect on temp(but use correct size - components can be fried). Look on how thermal paste was spread.

Then wait for response from others who have this laptop.

Edit. And don’t forget to uninstall all Bloatware from MSi.

 

Alrights ill try to do another repaste when I received my paste. Thank you!!

 

Ashamed to ask but which of these are bloatware and which aren't? Does Dragon center count? :O

 

I haven’t MSI, but I think Dragon center is what others prefer to use. Talk with @Phoenix or @Falkentyne what you should keep. Probably not much. Most part is trashware.

 

I just remove everything which i wont use. Which is most of it. Cant rmb which ones i removed.

 

Could it be that the paste needs sometime to settle in??? I went to ask around more and i heard some people saying it needs a few days before seeing results. But then again kryonuat is not a paste that needs a settle time =/

 

I only kept the Dragon Center, True Color and SteelSeries Engine. The rest are either drivers-only or known benchmark sotfwares.

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It will take some time to settle in but 7 degrees is a lot. Post results after a few days use.

 

Got increased fps +(20-30) fps after a clean install but still not getting the sweet 100-120hz. Should I be content with this or could this be tweaked a bit further?

Edit: Is GPU overclock via Afterburner possible or advised on this laptop?

 

I think i kind of solved it abit? I was looking around and realised my cpu was running at 100% all the time. Cause of the system which was the nt and kernel system constantly running. Which could be due to a bad program or drivers

Went to update all my drivers - didnt solve
I realised one of my programs was constantly running in the background too and uninstalled it.

That seem to solved the case my temps are now running cooler. Didnt have much time to test last night. Idle is about low 40 for cpu.

Playing overwatch - cpu 73 gpu 69

Ill still constantly observe and see if there is anything wrong with the temps

 

Which program was running all the time?

 

It was gog galaxy. Im not sure if it was actually it, but after uninstalling it and reboot the cpu load dropped back to normal. So im guessing it was that causing the nt and kernel to be weird

**But it was constantly running in the background even trying to close it. Which was why i thought i try uninstalling it

 

GOG Galaxy claim - "Optional bandwidth limiting and scheduling gives you additional control." Hmm...maybe not so much eh?

 

Accidentally installed it with some game... was to lazy to remove it. didn’t expect it to be so troublesome hais

 

Check thermals. Should be fine to overclock
I have CLU liquid metal for my cpu and gpu and hit 8900 on memory and 1935 on base clock.

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I am able to get 120-130fps on Overwatch on ultra but having difficulty with steam games like Dota and PUBG to get above 90fps at low settings. What could I doing wrong?

 

It probably is nothing you are doing...Overwatch is a better coded game.

 

Nothing pubg is notoriously badly coded and honestly 90fps is kind of impressive

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Yeah I noticed that now. But the problem is Dota is still not doing good despite being a less demanding game. My old GT72s with a 980m (but with a 6820hk) had better stability in terms of framerates and easily gets 75+fps on both.

I will try getting CS:GO to check if it all applies to Valve games in general.

Another angle I'm checking if it's because I have a single channel 16gb RAM which isn't optimized for gaming?

Edit: Just tried CSGO and I'm getting 120-140fps at high settings. This is weird

Found my fix to all of my previous problems and for everyone who is encountering the problem: USING DUAL CHANNEL RAM fixed it.

 

New proud owner of the GE63VR! I've started downloading steam, HWinfo and which software shall I use for undervolting? (I will not be repasting, and I have only 7 days to stress test this laptop, before the time for a quick return is up)

Edit: Also which game shall I download for stress testing? Witcher 3 demo would do?

 

Witcher 3 is a pretty good way to push a system when you have all settings on Ultra. You can use Intel' Extreme Tuning Utility for doing the undervolt. Lots of guides out there on how to do it.

I like using 3Dmark as well, just so you know you're getting consistent scores and comparable ones to similar hardware.

 

Hi raider owners,

I'm a happy GE63VR owner since a week, but one thing is really annoying, does someone else has this too? Here is the problem:

The CPU fan fluctuates a lot and is pending around 50rpm up and down all the time. This is quite loud with a little bit of coil whine at low speeds and my previous laptop from lenovos y-series didn't had this phenomenon. After setting up a costum fan curve, this issue is still present around the fan level I have set in the dragon center.

Also my battery drops around 5% after two days of not using the notebook. Is there a way to lock the battery, to conserve the power?

But otherwise the speakers are so much greater than the JBL speaker on my previous Y50-70. The highs are not on the same level like on the JBL speaker, but the bass is incredible!

Many thanks for your answers ...

 

What's your current version of BIOS & EC firmware? Have you updated them to the latest version?

 

As of today, I'm able to get mostly 120 fps on PUBG, seldom dipping below 100 fps with pretty good settings. Game looks pretty awesome. My max. CPU temp. was 81C, max GPU temp. was 67C. I have my laptop on a stand minus the ****ty fans that came with it ( https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/3/5/3540_07.jpg). Elevating it makes a huge difference, without the stand laying flat, my CPU max. temp. goes to 86C.
Anti-Aliasing: High
Post-Processing: Low
Shadows: Low
Textures: Ultra
Effects: Very Low
Foliage: High
View Distance: Ultra
V-Sync: On
Motion Blur: Off

 

Another thing I noticed is, someone here in this thread stated, that undervolting the GPU is only possible with an unlocked BIOS. But it was possible with the latest version of the MSI Afterburner to undervolt the GPU (1070) really a lot!

Can anybody confirm this on other machines too?

Edit: I get 1784.5 MHz at 0.8430mV, if I go down to 0.835mV glitches and errors become visible
FireStrike-GPU: 18482

My BIOS version is E16P1IMS.102 by the way...

 

Is there any way to program more function keys? I would love to have a next song fn key for like itunes.

=Jason-

 

Hey peeps, I managed to undervolt -130v (did not push it further) and after doing several 20mins stress tests, managed to drop around 10 degrees. Also how do you guys set up your fan profiles/sound profiles? And any suggestions on fine tuning the machine further?

 

You can contact Svet to modify EC firmware for you, but if the function is changed then you can't go back unless you flash back to the stock EC.

 

Hi,
Just bought my msi ge63vr laptop and wanting to upgrade my m.2,
Currently i only have 128gb. I came accroos this forum and saw your post regarding
Prying open the bottom cover.

I have the same problem, already managed to removed all the screws and managed to unclip most except the rear where the exhaust is located. How did you finally lift the bottom lid from rear? Im afraid of forcing the rear part as i might break the flimsy plastic lid on that particular area? Any suggestion will greatly help!

Thanks!

 

Just force it but slowly. Its difficult. Broke a few nails takinh it out first time =/
Once you take out the first time it will be a lot easier for subsequent openings

 

Hi,
Iam a new owner of Raider Ge 73vr with 1070 GTX and i have a problem with optimus, always is running 1070 gtx (orange led) and laptop never switch to intel graphics, even if i changed it in nvidia control panel or i switch to eco mode in dragon center. I also tried reinstall both drivers, i first installed intel and then nvidia, still nothing.

Also, are there some better fan profiles? I think fans are so loud, if Iam playing GTA V my temps are about 75 celsius but fans running so fast

 

Thnaks,
Will try one more time once i have purchased my new m.2.

 

Can anyone who has GE73VR confirm NBC's surface temps? Does WASD area really get 45C when on load? It sucks man this laptop could be the one
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-G...top-Review.258292.0.html#toc-power-management

 

Hello, I've been shopping for a good gtx 1070 laptop and the GE73VR-7RF raider seems to fit the bill, however I've seen some pics of the internals where the battery is sandwitched between all of the thermals: https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/MSI/GE73VR_7RF_Raider/msi_3.JPG and I was wondering if this would have a negative effect over prolonged periods of time. Most other laptops seem to place the battery away from all of the heat exchange.

I've also heard scattered reports of coil-whine and was curious if this is something I should expect. I wasn't planning on buying an extended warranty with this one as it's very expensive to do so in Canada, and I think the manufacture covers 2 years, but I'd like to keep this around for at least 4 or 5. Does that seem realistic given the brand and model? I haven't owned an MSI laptop before.

 

Are you guys getting large temp splits at max temps? A typical split I get after a couple hours playing Civ VI at max would be 86 to 95'c. When I first received my laptop from GenTec the cores were all pretty equal and would max out at 85. I'm thinking maybe the heatsink has loosen up or something similar. I'm debating opening it up and checking the screw tightness.

=Jason-

 

Is it normal to have the laptop undervolted at say -130mV... Everything is normal till I unplugged the power supply and then system crashes and shuts down.
Do I have to remove undervolt before removing the power supply?

This is not always (only when system is heavily loaded then the power supply is unplugged)

Thanks!

 

I've also noticed this. And haven't been sure if it's a driver or program randomly doing it. Funnily enough it never happens whole plugged in

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Oh, so I am not the only one I guess. I am not sure if it is related to switching to power saving when it is on battery via Intel Graphics Setting, I tried disabling it but did not work for me.

I also tested it without power plugged in the first place then undervolt. The system doesn't crash. It only crashes when it is undervolted with power supply plugged in then power supply is removed some time when the system is loaded.

 

I haven't tested but I wonder if it's throttlestop. I wonder if it has a problem when power is pulled. I can verify that it's only when power is unplugged. I wonder if this happens with Intel voltage program

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I am using XTU actually. I think it has something to do with power being unplugged. Whatever happens after that might be causing it.

 

Only thing I can think of is some sort of power saving settings... But not sure to be honest very rare I use this lappy without plugin in but..

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I also don't use it unplugged that often. But sometimes I move from room to room and I forget to turn off the undervolt then boom it crashes

 

Tested with less undervolt?

 

I only tested with -145mV lower then lower then lower up to -130mV so far. I will try to reduce it later if it still happens

 

I agree it's something I would like an explanation for if not fix. As it's weird it almost seems to me that you'd think that unplugging would help the undervolt holding without a crash because the CPU wouldn't in theory have to work as hard in energy savings mode. Maybe instead it just starves the CPU even further from energy and it causes crash.

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