MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

That is easy...take the cheapest one!

MSI will load up the MSI GE63VR RAIDER-001 so that when you match the MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider-075, the -001 will be more expensive. Always start with the least expensive one that has the screen size, CPU and GPU you want, then customize it from there.

 

Am thinking of repasting with grizzly kryonaut and adding fujipoly extreme pads. What thickness of pads should i go for?
Wanna lower my idle temps from 50 to low 40s

 

Awesome. I was just making sure I was not missing anything. XoticPC, for example, doesn't seem to let me configure a second m.2 slot.

 

Re-run the tests. Shut down antivirus software if this is running in the background(same for MSI bloat if you still have it installed). The scores is on 6700hq level. Aka too low.

 

Just bought -075 from GentechPC, it allows you to customize the 2nd slot.

 

I can not emphasize enough - but if you guys are in the market, buy from Gentech, buy with confidence, and get the CLU upgrade on the GPU and CPU. My temps are around 60's while gaming, GPU is in the 50's. I could run a custom vBIOS on the GPU to increase the voltage and push it further if I wanted there's SO much headroom on the thermals. The CPU gets up to 80 during encoding 4K video but never above the 85 mark no matter what I've thrown at it.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2715615

This is my latest runs last night on Time Spay. There are only 4 ish other laptops that have benched better, and they were alienwares that had I'm assuming custom vBIOS, or they were using a graphics amplifier in some cases.

 

Great temps. I have enhanced cooling with an undervolt and using this portable stand:

https://www.amazon.com/Steklo-Aluminium-Adjustable-Portable-Universal/dp/B00VIZ60QY

Insures proper ventilation and helps elevate screen for better viewing.

 

After two months of being in repair, I'm finally getting my GE63VR back...
They replaced parts that caused the abnormally high temperatures.

What should I do when I get the laptop back? Install bloatfree windows edition? Or just set it up through pre-configured MSI OS and then use O&O?

Thank you...

 

I think one of the guys said they they don't use the bloatware-free version anymore, just the O&O Shut-Up. I have done the same. I've tried out the Bloatware-free version, but it really bugged me having to leave Windows Update turned off. With O&O, sometimes certain programs need to be re-installed, I can just temporarily turned off O&O, then re-enable. You should still do a clean install of stock Windows 10. Installing the drivers is not that long.

Also, they replaced the parts? Why couldn't they just give you a different unit? When I RMA'd my first ge73vr from GenTechPC, they just sent me back a different (new) unit. I checked the serial number to be sure.

ATTENTION:

I think I will try a battery capacity mod for my ge73vr. When I opened the case, I noticed that access to the battery cells looks very simple, since the cells are visible. Once I get time, I will take out the battery module, assess the difficulty in replacing the battery cells for higher capacity ones, then do a lot of research. I have a 1 TB NVMe SSD, powerful CPU/GPU, good scream, 32 GB RAM. The only thing missing is the battery life! There are tons of available rechargeable lithium 18650 (I'm assuming this is the size that the Raiders use, I still need to check) with larger capacity that, when put into 2-serial 2-parallel (6 cells total), would easily be more than the modest stock 51 Whr.

 

I was outside of my 30 day return period, so they only option was send it to MSI for repairs unfortunately.
Where do you find the regular version of Windows? A torrent? Also can I transfer my windows key somehow so I can activate the normal version of windows? Or is my only option pirating windows now?

 

Lol no you don't need to pirate anything. Windows 10 image files are freely downloadable from Microsoft. You can create a bootable USB Windows 10 using Microsoft's Media Creation Tool.

 

So how do I activate that windows with the license that came with the MSI? And if that's not possible should I just use a tool to hacktivate windows?
Also do you have a download link for these image files?

 

Read nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide

 

it will be automatically activated.

 

Do you really not know how to Google "Microsoft Media Creation Tool"?

 

We have seen a lot of Code 10 errors lately from machines where Windows 10 has automatically updated the drivers from older versions. I'm not sure what is happening there, but clearly the update is not working quite right. You can usually clear it by cleaning out the driver store. Here are the steps:

1. Download or otherwise load the latest Killer Control Center installer onto the machine (you may need to use a USB thumb drive or some other medium if you can't access the Internet with the machine).
2. Right-click Start, click Apps and Features, and find all entries with "Killer" in the title, and uninstall them. This includes "Killer Drivers" or "Killer Suite" or any variations. You can hold off on restarting for now if an uninstaller says to do so.
3. Close Apps and Features and right-click Start and click Device Manager.
4. Find the Ethernet adapter under the Network Adapters heading, right click it, and click Uninstall Device. If you cannot find it, you may need to click View > Show hidden devices at the top of Device Manager. It may also be listed somewhere other than under Network Adapters.
5. Check the box for Delete the driver software for this device if it is present.
6. Click Uninstall.
7. Click the light blue Scan for hardware changes icon at the top of Device Manager. The adapter will probably reappear, and may or may not still show a Code 10, but I would suggest continuing with this guide either way.
8. Repeat steps 4-7 until you no longer have the option to Delete the driver software for this device. Note that you could keep doing this indefinitely, as Windows will always install a default driver, but once you can no longer Delete the driver software for this device, you have accomplished the goal of clearing out all of the drivers that we were trying to clear out, so you're done by that point.
9. Restart the computer by clicking Start > Power > Restart. Do not rely on the machine's power button as many modern computers have that button set to sleep, not power off.
10. Once the machine has restarted, run the installer for the latest Killer Control Center. If everything doesn't look perfect, restart the machine after the installation, even if the installer did not say to do so.

If this doesn't solve it for you, or if you have any other questions or issues, feel free to reach out to us directly at http://www.killernetworking.com/about/contact

-- Anthony with Killer Networking

 

Cheers.
What drivers are absolutely necessary? (ie: I can imagine you need the dragon center in order to select the kind of performance you want, fan noise etc)
Anything else I should definitely install after a clean windows installation? (Maybe niantic audio driver?)

Thank you!

 

Bump bump anyone???

 

Ask @Phoenix I haven't MSIbook

 

Hey @Phoenix do I simply install ALL drivers from https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GE63VR-7RF-Raider#down-driver&Win10 64 after a clean windows install?
(I also noticed this page lists KillerLAN, but I thought I originally had another driver for wifi/lan)

Thanks!

 

1. MSI true colour(optional but this gives better colour for me), You can uninstall if you dont like it.
2. Install Nahimic if u want to customize the audio. Install realtek before Nahimic
3. Steelseries Engine Software for LED and Maybe Fn keys to work(not sure)
4. Dragon Centre like you said, Fan, performance, etc
5. Touchpad driver
And i have Intel rapid storage installed. No idea if it helps or not.

 

I am going to get the GE63VR and have a question guys for all who have it already...my lappy is coming with one stick of 16gb ram...can anyone tell me that has this what is the exact make/model, etc of the mem? I want to order another 16gb of ram through Amazon and just want to match the exact same stick that is already in there.

Thanks a bunch!

 

Does doing this make it a dual channel?
I thought you had to buy them together

Also from what ive heard, you have to see where you got yours from. Different regions have different stuff

 

Yup going 32gb anyway and yes it would make it dual channel. That is why i am asking about the exact memory model in the unit. Mine will have a 16gb one stick shipped. So if anyone has it, that would be great! Thanks again!

 

For any current Killer adapter, the Killer Control Center is necessary to use all of the features of the adapter (bandwidth optimization and control, etc). For basic network connectivity, you can use our driver installer or install the drivers yourself using our .INF files. I would not suggest using the drivers that Device Manager currently installs as we have been receiving many reports of these drivers causing Code 10 errors recently.

-- Anthony with Killer Networking

 

The latest and greatest is usually better.

 

I have bought the product similar to below to add an additional monitor:
https://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-HDM...1510940010&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+type+c+to+hdmi

It seems that the additional monitor (which is a 2k monitor) is not able to work. The usb port in the adaptor works though.

I am beginning to suspect that the usb 3.1 gen 2 type c port in this laptop is not capable of producing video (believe it's alternate mode?).

Has anyone successfully tried using the type c port for an extra monitor?

I have updated the ASMedia drivers to the latest August drivers.

P.s. The adaptor is probably not faulty as it works with my Galaxy 8 phone to the monitor.

 

You do realize that Raid 0 has nothing to do with data redundancy, don't you? Raid 0 stripes the writes across 2 drives so that read times will be quicker in the future. It does not write the same information to both drives. This does mean, however, that if one of the drives fails you are screwed on being able to retrieve any data off of either drive!!!! This is why I have and will always stay away from Raid 0.

I use a Razer Blade Pro 2TB for work and the first thing I did was remove the Raid 0 and set the 2 1TB NVMe drives as separate drives, not one big striped 2TB drive.

 

My current laptop (not an MSI GE series) has a Killer 1535 in it and after updating to the latest control software I started getting constant GSOD's due to memory leaks. I uninstalled your software and have not had another one since. May be 50% your software and 50% Windows to blame due to me being in the Windows Insider program in the Fast Ring and this was on the first Redstone 4 build (17035). May be something you guys want to look into.

However, I have never had any problems out of it as far as problems with the card such as the Code 10 error you were talking about before. It has always just worked and it doesn't bother me at all not having the software component since I don't use it anyway. Where I am at right now I have ****ty internet.

 

I'd never dare to install the latest Killer "stuff". Having done that the last time (before returning the lemon), everything became so slow and both the wifi and ethernet were continuously disconnecting and reconnecting.
I'm currently using the driver-only file provided by MSI with the laptop. Working flawless, never upgrading.

 

New error: BSOD, Whea error usually an indication of a failed overclock or undervolt to memory or cpu. However neither were overclocked during these errors, and it happened twice in a row upon dying in PUBG which is extremely cpu intensive. Thoughts?

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I think the same error has happened to me when my undervolt was set to -145. Changed it to -135 and I've yet to see a BSOD.

 

Undervolt was off after the first crash

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If you undervolted with XTU and you have an unexpected shutdown/crash this will always happen. The software doesn't know if it was to blame for the crash so it will not auto-apply at next startup so that you can tweak it if it was the culprit.

 

Yes. My mistake for not mentioning RAID 1 (Disk Mirroring) or RAID 10 (Striping + Mirroring).

 

Double post, please delete.

 

We did have a memory leak issue around a year ago. It has been resolved for quite a while, though. The Code 10 errors must be fairly rare as I'm not getting dozens of tickets, but the current Killer Control Center and driver-only installers are both pretty much flawless, so since I am seeing a few Code 10s a week at least, and all come from Windows Update, I'm advising against using those drivers for the time being.

I'm sorry to hear that you had troubles with the Killer Control Center. If you ever decide to give it another shot, I'm here to help you in any way I can. You can contact us directly here - http://www.killernetworking.com/about/contact.

 

I just reinstalled my OS and have a few questions..
You seem to be talking only about utilities, I was asking about the drivers.

So about the drivers, which one should I install from below?
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GE63VR-7RF-Raider#down-driver



(surely I should install NVIDIA driver, so I'm asking if someone can mark every driver that is needed? Thanks x1000.
Can anyone else please chip in??

 

This was answered by Phoenix in another thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/page-48

 

Yea i was talking about the utilities since u were asking about dragon centre and all.
So yea of course you need all the drivers but
Chipset (i read somewhere that it already come pre-installed with windows 10), better to install. i installed it too
If u have intel bluetooth driver. you dont need killer bluetooth driver. same purpose
And i did not installed killer driver or killer suite and i do not see any increase/decrease of performance in any games such as dota 2, CSGO, battlefield 4 and tekken 7. all games are online.

 

Thanks for your reply @chadkamei
I did as you and @Phoenix suggested, can't wait to run some benchmarks!

 

Kind of a weird question but;

For work I need to wear proper clothing (not a suit, but close to).
Can anyone recommend a bag like this that will fit the 15.6 inch model? (and charger)

 

Replaced the 256gb toshiba drive since my hardware monitor kept telling me it's over heating.... wasnted matching 525gb drives anyway... But when I pulled the old toshiba drive out, the motherboard appears to be physically burnt? Thoughts?

Gentech, any ideas?

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Just looking to buy the gx63vr - NE Black Friday deal (first gaming laptop)

Any resource of best way of dealing with the bloatware on msi? You said blostware free edition? Is that just a clean install of windows 10?

 

Even a clean install of Windows 10 will feel slow. I disabled stuff like Windows Defender using O&O Shutup10. The bloatware-free edition comes with heavy services already disabled.

 

That was fast! Lol
Where do I get the bloatware free edition ?

Also this is what I am thinking of buying:
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E1...a&AID=11552995&PID=7706533&SID=pcg-1588522488

Think that is a must buy?

 

I think it is still available in NBR, just look for the Bloatware Free Edition by @Phoenix.
Regarding the GX63VR, I'm not sure whether it is the same as the GE63VR? That price looks too good. I got my GE63VR-7RE for 1500Eur in Paris back in September, and it sports the GTX 1060.

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tim, I think Phoenix has discontinued the bloatware-free edition.
Just go with a clean install and follow the guides.

 

It's been discontinued.

 

How is it so far in terms of gaming? I have a few days left before the black friday sale ends to choose between the GE63VR and GL503VS-DH74. On one hand, I do love the new speakers and "better" colors of the Raider. But on the other hand, the g-sync feature of the Scar is very good for games like PUBG and Dota.