The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    --->The Official MSI GT780/GT783 Owner's Lounge<---

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. bytecode

    bytecode Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    27
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Heh thanks Ken :), great support from MSI and Gentechpc, would definitely choose you guys next time :)
     
    bytecode, Aug 10, 2011
    #1851
  2. klkitchens

    klkitchens Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15

    Please post your findings!!

    and can you take a photo of the BACK of the keyboard, the model number stickers, etc...?
     
    klkitchens, Aug 10, 2011
    #1852
  3. steve_g

    steve_g Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I have a new GT780R, US spec as supplied by GentechPC.
    I had a clean Windows 7 ultimate install and all works well, but...

    I lost the equalizer and effects tab in the sound card manager. They were there when I first got the machine, but I had to add some of the MSI drivers etc. (THX, CinemaPro etc.) and now I no longer have the options.
    Searching general forums etc. it seems that I maybe should never have had this option as Realtek took it out for Vista/Win7. But it was there, I didn't imagine it! I did not update the realtek driver (at least knowingly), but the version I had when I noticed the loss is 6.0.1.6353 for the audio driver.

    Any ideas how I might get it back?
     
    steve_g, Aug 10, 2011
    #1853
  4. bytecode

    bytecode Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    27
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Well:
    The Good News:
    Lag/Missing Keystrokes fixed

    The Bad:
    Up Arrow is not that smooth
    Lightning is the same as before ie dim from middle
    You have to open the back lid ie break your warranty sticker to change the keyboard :S

    Images:
    http://www.ahmedkamil.com/assets/PICT0048.JPG
    http://www.ahmedkamil.com/assets/PICT0051.JPG
    http://www.ahmedkamil.com/assets/PICT0052.JPG
    http://www.ahmedkamil.com/assets/PICT0053.JPG
    http://www.ahmedkamil.com/assets/PICT0054.JPG
    http://www.ahmedkamil.com/assets/PICT0108.JPG
     
    bytecode, Aug 10, 2011
    #1854
  5. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Are you using the Realtek driver from MSI that it says sound by Dynaudio in the sound card manager?


    Your warranty is not void, they know you are going to install the new keyboard.
     
    GenTechPC, Aug 10, 2011
    #1855
  6. klkitchens

    klkitchens Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Is this last photo the OLD keyboard or the NEW one?

    If the "new" then there is nothing different except the serial # and the inspection items. I was expecting the model/part # to be a different version...
     
    klkitchens, Aug 10, 2011
    #1856
  7. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    No, it won't be a different model or part number. What they have done is put all the keyboards through another test cycle, and culled the bad ones.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 10, 2011
    #1857
  8. klkitchens

    klkitchens Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Ah... ok... thanks :)
     
    klkitchens, Aug 10, 2011
    #1858
  9. steve_g

    steve_g Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Yep, right along the bottom of the window.
    In any case I reloaded the driver from the msi site, but this did not chnage any of the versions.

    Should I be able to get the equalizer?
     
    steve_g, Aug 10, 2011
    #1859
  10. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Well atleast they got the lag fixed. Kudos for that. :)

    Could you take a picture of the keyboard with the lights so we can see how it is? Thanks
     
    Cloudfire, Aug 10, 2011
    #1860
  11. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    GenTechPC, Aug 10, 2011
    #1861
  12. xMAR99

    xMAR99 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    956
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Ah, you're luck you've got gentech as your reseller, I'm also losing keystrokes but my reseller(Excaliberpc) says i should contact warranty :-(. I'm also an international buyer.
     
    xMAR99, Aug 11, 2011
    #1862
  13. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    I can help you if you can PM me your contact and shipping information.
     
    GenTechPC, Aug 11, 2011
    #1863
  14. klkitchens

    klkitchens Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Has anyone had issues with the microphone quality (built-in)?

    I've tried to adjust all obvious settings, but when I'm in a Goto Meeting, etc... the built in microphone is very faint. I have to 1/2 close the lid to bring the microphone very close to me to be able to speak.

    I know an external mic would work better, but it seems odd the internal mic would be so faint.

    Any others?

    Thanks!
     
    klkitchens, Aug 11, 2011
    #1864
  15. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Internal mic's are known to be faint. External mic or headset is the way to go.

    In over 12 years in this business I have never experienced what you would call a good internal mic.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 11, 2011
    #1865
  16. Demon2k3

    Demon2k3 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Greetings g780 owners/speculants

    My name is demon2k3 and i'm looking to buy a new laptop to replace my current acer extensa 7620 which is getting rather old by now for the games i'm interested in. I'm also a student , but got a job this summer to fund this purchase.

    So what i wonder, what should i be looking at to fullfill my study/gaming needs. The line of study doesn't require any graphics heavy stuff , i study social work, but a full version of word has to be part of it.

    So, around what translates into 1.6-2k dollar range, what you suggest me getting, i've been looking at the customized and i'm really tempted to get a MSI GT780DXR, but they do not sell those here in sweden yet. Those i can purchase from, do they ship to sweden currently? Also if i was to order i am aware of shipping and taxes, how much would the price rise due to those?

    Sorry for the many questions, but it's between this and the Asus, and this looks like the more solid machine.
     
    Demon2k3, Aug 11, 2011
    #1866
  17. LordLoss

    LordLoss Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    14
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Hey paladin44, I wanted to know if you're able to configure the gt780dx so I could get a glossy screen, and a different video card.
    The video card is not that big of an impact, wanted to be able to use a big screen with the laptop once in awhile, and I've heard the nVidia GeForce GTX 570M won't have the best quality because of the memory.
    Right now I'm looking around to where I wanted to buy from, which in the first week or second week of September I'm purchasing this laptop, and needed to get some info from resalers.

    This is the first time buying a laptop (Never even purchased a desktop) so I'm starting to learn more about internal hardware, sorry if they're a stupid question. lol
     
    LordLoss, Aug 11, 2011
    #1867
  18. PredatoR_TR

    PredatoR_TR Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    22
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Will there be a review for GT780DXR??
     
    PredatoR_TR, Aug 11, 2011
    #1868
  19. steve_g

    steve_g Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    steve_g, Aug 11, 2011
    #1869
  20. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    @ Demon2k3

    There are no taxes collected here in the US for shipments to Sweden, so you would have to contact your Customs Office to see what they will collect.

    As for shipping costs, please submit your specifications to PowerNotebooks.com and we can then quote them for you. Shipping costs depend on the weight and size of the box, the value for insurance, and the exact destination including your Postal Code.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 11, 2011
    #1870
  21. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Please give me a call at 1-877-711-1777 between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM Pacific Time Monday through Friday to discuss these issues.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 11, 2011
    #1871
  22. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    GenTechPC, Aug 11, 2011
    #1872
  23. Keith

    Keith Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    889
    Messages:
    788
    Likes Received:
    221
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Keith, Aug 11, 2011
    #1873
  24. cutegigi

    cutegigi Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    wow. stock in already ?? :D
     
    cutegigi, Aug 11, 2011
    #1874
  25. Keith

    Keith Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    889
    Messages:
    788
    Likes Received:
    221
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I just did a quick bench of my 485m and compared the 3DMark Vantage / 3DMark 11 scores of it to the scores in Ken's video for the 570m. The 570m scored 2000+ points higher in Vantage, and was a dead match in 11, when compared to Ken's scores. I realize the 570m was overclocked in Ken's video. I ran the 485m at stock.

    I'd say it's a keeper! :)
     
    Keith, Aug 11, 2011
    #1875
  26. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Not yet and we hope next week. :)


    Thank you so much for the comparison Keith. :)

    to be honest with you I didn't expect GTX570M can be overclocked this high. I was only expecting 2700~2800 on 3Dmark 11, that's the score I tested on 560M with i7-2920CPU, 1600Mhz RAM and latest driver at the time. And I got 3146 on 570M.

    On Vantage I only expect around 14000 but I got 16000, so when I see the score I was like: Okay, that's not too bad at all. :D



    The AC adapter is 180W, it's huge and I got a picture of it compare with 150W adapter next to it:
     

    Attached Files:

    GenTechPC, Aug 12, 2011
    #1876
  27. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Very NICE Ken! Thanks for the new INFO! The GTX 570M is looking very good indeed!

    In the AC adapter comparison pic, is that a soda can, or a BEER can?

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1877
  28. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    It was Pepsi. :rolleyes:
     
    GenTechPC, Aug 12, 2011
    #1878
  29. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Ahhhhh, I see..... so that GT683DXR, had you excited, serious, and focused, didn't it? I would be too, LOL!

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1879
  30. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    BTW, I almost forgot Ken...... did you take any screen shots of the benchmark results, and if so, could you please post the pics here?

    Thanks!

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1880
  31. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Of course I did, here is the screenshots, enjoy: :)
     

    Attached Files:

    GenTechPC, Aug 12, 2011
    #1881
  32. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Thanks Ken! I have added these results to the lead post here as, " First benchmarking results of GTX 570M". Did you happen to take any screenshots of this with stock clocks?

    Thanks again!

    :) :) :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1882
  33. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    yes I did, the first screenshot is tested with stock clocks.
     
    GenTechPC, Aug 12, 2011
    #1883
  34. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Whoops, sorry, LOL! I see it now! Again, thanks for the screenshots Ken!

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1884
  35. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    GenTechPC, Aug 12, 2011
    #1885
  36. DreamwalkerL

    DreamwalkerL Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Sorry but to all the laptop professionals out there, can anyone of you go into the trouble to post the 3dmark scores you got with GTX560m and 570m side by side? I think that'll make it easier for a lot of people XP
     
    DreamwalkerL, Aug 12, 2011
    #1886
  37. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    The GTX 570M exceeds expectations! Keep in mind that the GTX 570M results above, are with a 'release driver' (ForceWare 268.90), and will improve significantly when NVIDIA includes the new GPU into future Verde program updates.

    For comparison to initial (or first) benchmarking of the GTX 560M, I offer the following:


    560M GPU-Z with release driver (ForceWare 268.12):


    [​IMG]


    3DMark Vantage with OC, release driver:


    [​IMG]


    3DMark11 without OC, release driver:


    [​IMG]


    3DMark11 with OC, and modded ForceWare 275.33 driver:


    [​IMG]


    Again, scores improved considerably when the 560M was added to NVIDIA's Verde program updates...... the first of which was the 275.55 Beta, and the same improvements will be expected as this occurs for the 570M.

    I hope this helps......

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1887
  38. MrSeaBass

    MrSeaBass Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    312
    Messages:
    399
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I just got 9622 on Vantage with the GT780R - 560M. So yes the OC on the 570M makes it much faster.
     
    MrSeaBass, Aug 12, 2011
    #1888
  39. DreamwalkerL

    DreamwalkerL Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Wow~ that was fast, thank you so much -=$tR|k3r=-!!!
     
    DreamwalkerL, Aug 12, 2011
    #1889
  40. DreamwalkerL

    DreamwalkerL Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hmm~ so comparing initial drivers for GTX560m and GTX570m the difference is about 10%? I was hoping it would be over 20% like it says on Nvidia's website XP. And is it possible to unlock 570m's cuda cores using the method here?

    Unlocking GTX 465 ? own research » hw-lab.com
     
    DreamwalkerL, Aug 12, 2011
    #1890
  41. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    What driver were you using? Even without OC, the 570M jump is huge:

    [​IMG]

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1891
  42. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    10%?...... sorry, but your math is a little fuzzy to me, LOL!

    Here are both cards OC'ed, and both using intial release drivers.....


    560M OC'ed:


    [​IMG]


    570M OC'ed: (and take note how much Ken was able to OC the card with AfterBurner)


    [​IMG]


    I'm sold!

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1892
  43. Tim4

    Tim4 Alchemist

    Reputations:
    385
    Messages:
    793
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    31
    That's indeed imoressive scores. Ken, can you run 3Dmark11 on stock clocks and vantage with physx on CPU(not GPU)? Thanks in advance!
     
    Tim4, Aug 12, 2011
    #1893
  44. MrSeaBass

    MrSeaBass Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    312
    Messages:
    399
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    280.19.

    Ya the jump is huge :eek: , almost double when OC'd. It looks like the 570 is turning out to be a beast.
     
    MrSeaBass, Aug 12, 2011
    #1894
  45. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Beast? Same thing Ken said, LOL!

    280.26 is now available Here!

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1895
  46. klkitchens

    klkitchens Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Snooze you win... I just configured the new 570M machine just like my 560M... was about $40 cheaper. Shoulda waited :)
     
    klkitchens, Aug 12, 2011
    #1896
  47. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Yep, that's why I immediately sold my GT780R..... saw this coming as soon as I was informed about the 570M.

    :)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 12, 2011
    #1897
  48. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    The 570M is an overclockers paradise because the GPU is low clocked and therefor rely on the amount of cores.

    560M is clocked at 775MHz and the shaders at 1550MHz. 570M however is only clocked at 575MHz while the shaders at 1070MHz. 570M is better because of 336 cores vs 560M with 192 cores.
    So all in all you have a lot of headroom to overclock the 570M. :)


    @KenLee: The moment is soon here. Have you experienced more fan activity with the DXR version compared the the 560M version?
     
    Cloudfire, Aug 12, 2011
    #1898
  49. klkitchens

    klkitchens Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I (wrongly) assumed it was going to be more $$$
     
    klkitchens, Aug 12, 2011
    #1899
  50. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

    Reputations:
    13,989
    Messages:
    9,257
    Likes Received:
    5,843
    Trophy Points:
    681
    It is more $$$. Configured the same as the MSI GT780R-012US the MSI GT780DX is $100 more.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 12, 2011
    #1900
← Previous pageNext page →