--->The Official MSI GT780/GT783 Owner's Lounge<---

Guys do you know how to make the laptop work at full throttle while on battery?

Starcraft 2 it runs at 11 fps....

My gx660 (with ati 5870) had an option on the catalyst control panel to switch between gaming/balanced profile, even while on battery.

 

Out of curiosity, did you order any upgrades that required them to boot up the system, or did you order it stock? I have a hard time believing any reseller here would ship out a system in which they know the keyboard lighting is bad, and could be a disappointment to the customer, requiring potential RMA, etc. I'd think they'd address it on their end prior to shipping, but if they didn't boot it up, and therefore didn't see it, that would make more sense. Also, the symbol keys on the right side of the keyboard might appear fainter anyway, just because there is so little area for the light to get through. May or may not be part of your issue, though.

 

All support and warranty is handled with the Serial Number so it will not be confusing to either the PowerNotebooks.com or MSI technicians.

Since there can be so many variations based on upgrades or downgrades trying to apply a version (-A1 or -B3 or what ever) to each configuration wouldn't be necessary or make much sense. The Serial Number is all that is necessary for the technicians.

However for the user, it does make sense to have a starting price based on two basic configurations instead of a high starting price that you have to dig in to before you see there are ways to lower it.

Make sense?

 

Mine arrives today.
I didn't have GenTech PC do a clean install and I was wondering if anyone had a list of bloatware that can or should be uninstalled. I don't want to remove something required by the keyboard, s-bar, ect...

 

I ordered the ic diamond repaste and the intel 6230 wireless card. The lights appear fainter near the O,P,L are as are others with this issue.

 

MSI does not consider the keyboard "faint" lighting issue that is being discussed here as a flaw or that the keyboard lighting is bad. They will therefore not issue an RMA for warranty repair for this issue.

If the difference in the brightness of the lighting makes the laptop unacceptable the only recourse is to return it for a refund.

 

Interesting.

 

I agree with MSI here.

 

I thought someone said that MSI has not confirmed a unit with the GTX570M included. (If I'm wrong forgive me).

I just read in the GT780R manual the specs for the power supply and it indicates that it includes a 150W for models with the GTX560M/GTX570M.

Don't know if this has been seen before, but there it is.

 

GEE WIZ Donald! I thought it would have been obvious that there was alot of joking going on around here, and it seems you are taking this quite seriously.

Does it make sense to me..... sorry, Nope! Explain it as you may, still seems far simpler to change the custom configurator. Afterall, we are still just taking about one SKU in this case, and the only REAL changes involve primarily downgrades to Mem & storage. I see resellers do this all the time, without the creation of new unofficial models. At the moment, I know of no official MSI B3 or A1 models of the GT780R-012US. As you indicated earlier, yes, hopefully MSI will sort this mess out shortly.

Anyhow, I think the joking around had to do mainly with the confusion all of this will create. I mean GEEZ, look at the flurry when the unofficial Pro-Star B3 creation hit the forum, and this will continue net-wide. Again, it is still just the one GT780R, with a few simple downgrades to allow customers to save. Sorry, but I can see where this could get confusing to customers, trying to compare all these various models, honestly, can't you?...... let's see, there is the GT780R..... the unofficial GT780R-A1...... the unofficial GT780-B, LOL!

Yes, I am aware service calls will be handled with the product serial number, but I can still imagine tech's wondering..... 'An A1 model?..... A B3 model? What the PHRACK is this customer talking about?', LOL!

Please..... lighten-up, relieve some stress, and laugh with us!

 

Now you can add the XR1 from Xoticpc.

I was just explaining rationale...I don't see where it was anything to get so excited about.

Please..... lighten-up, relieve some stress, and laugh with us!

 

NICE catch on the mention of the power supply and GTX 570M in the manual. I had not seen this!

I am unaware that MSI has officially announced the GTX 570M in the GT780R, but NVIDIA made such an announcement 28 June. Seems there has also been a recent update to this......... GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !

NVIDIA announces GeForce GTX 580M and 570M, availability in the Alienware M18x and MSI GT780R (updated: MSI says no)

 

You might have missed this one. ;}

Homer

 

LOL! Now Xotic has joined in to add to the confusion...... Wonderful! So NOW we have an XR1 model?

Donald, I've been laughing at this nonsense all along, and will continue to do so as it unfolds. You have a business to run...... 'Have It Your Way'!

 

MSI has confirmed GT780DXR-xxxUS with GTX570M will be release by end of July or early August.

 

Yes, I absolutely DID miss that one!

Thanks Homer S for keeping me strait.

 

WHEW!

THANKS KEN!

 

Well I`m waiting until that laptop is out before making up my mind. Who knows, maybe MSI have worked on the keyboard with this one. Improved lightning, fortified the keyboard so that it flex less etc.

I`m not shure if I would go so far as not calling the keyboard lightning a flaw. It is not a failure, but from the pics I`ve seen I shure as hell would call it a flaw. If not then I would love to hear why this is normal...

 

The backlighting is done with LED light strips, so the closer the key is to the strips the brighter it will be, and the farther away it is the fainter it will be.

It is just physics...and the way it is, goin' West

 

So, the LED strips start from the far left of the keyboard and end up where the "Enter"-key is? And then starts again from the left of the keypad?

I work in a store were we sell these LED strips (cold white, warm white and RGB LED) and I have cut 5-6 meter long LED strips and they all light equally bright when connected to 12V DC. Weird

EDIT: Plus we have Sager, Alienware and Asus which also have backlit keyboard. Don`t think I`ve seen this phenomena on them.

 

I just seen lonlywolf90 laptop from another forum. Man this laptop is gorgeous. I will post 1 of them and if you don`t like it, then give me a shout and I will delete my post lonlywolf. Hope it is ok. So any +rep should go to him

 

I have a unit with the dim keys around the "O" and bright "AltGr" and the right "CTRL". The color of the brighter keys is also off slightly I’m guessing do to a slight difference in thickness during manufacturing. While I don't find the flaws to be severe or cause for return - MSi did promote this keyboard greatly in the advertisement(s) describing the unit and I think it does fall short of the hype.
I haven’t encountered any of the missed keystroke, or keys that need to be hit harder.

Overall the unit has been awesome and I would recommend it.

On a side note the GT780R fits flat in the TSA bins at the airport. It bothered me that my ASUS-G73A1 would sit pinched at an angle as it was too big.

 

I've been reading here for a few weeks now, and as far as the lighting issue I have to chime in.

Someone mentioned Alienwares not having the dim areas on the keyboard a few pages back. I had a M15X (may it rest in pieces in the house of whatever stole it last month) and it definitely had dim areas. It was in a wide circle pattern, though, in the middle of the keyboard, and was more prominent in some colors than others.

My bought my replacement GT780R from Xotic, and it ought to show up at work tomorrow. I'll be interested to see if it has a lighting flaw.

 

Hey guys, any help on the battery performance drop issue? Thanks!

 

Welcome to the MSI forum and congrats with your purchase. Let us know how it all turn out. Maybe give us a short review, pros and cons when you have time.

 

Sorry, but I have to comment on this again......

Is it possble this keyboard issue has been taken a little overboard here? Yes, a few folks have had issues, but many have not. Pictures? I guess it depends on what pictures you are looking at? Yes, if you have keys unlit, or an entire quadrant is out, sure, then I say that's a REAL complaint..... and get it fixed! But all this nonsense of things like 'bright' keys and such, is getting a little ridiculous. I don't think most have issue with this, and most are not complaining. Personally, I think the keyboard is great.

Flex? I have not noticed THIS as a topic of real complaint..... and interestingly enough, this is not a topic of your poll either.

Nit-pick, nit-pick, nit-pick! You create a poll, the GT780R Satisfaction Poll, and this is all fun and interesting, BUT it nearly focuses ENTIRELY on the keyboard! When considering overall satisfaction, aren't there MANY other attributes of this notebook to consider? Is this keyboard lighting the 'deal-breaker' for you? Really? If so, why not buy that Sager or Alienware, yourself and others continue to compare with. Why continue to come into an Owner's Lounge, making these comparisons, and complaining WHY you will not get this notebook...... or WHAT has to be corrected before you will?

The notebook is what it is, and plenty of information is available to consider a buying decision. Either you like what you see, or you don't, and it's really that simple. Are you buying the GT780R?

I predict you will not be buying...... waiting, waiting, and waiting...... a very long time for MSI to meet 'your' total satisfaction here..... and given what Donald has stated about the lighting, I'm not sure your satisfaction can be met.



@ FredS.....'fits TSA bins at the airport', hilarious!

 

A very nice pic indeed!

 

Hi striker so you gonna upgrade the CPU to 2820qm when you get the laptop??

 

That is because this keyboard is multi-colored. If they had chosen to go will a single color like everybody else, this would not be an issue. Steelseries and MSI wanted to get all fancy and there is a dim spot. So what, it is definitely not a deal breaker.

 

@Striker:

No the keyboard lightning is NOT taken "over board". From my poll it shows that 6 says it is so bad it bother them, and 7 says that it doesn`t to them. That is almost 50/50. Now if we look at total voters, 23 and then we have 26%, 1/4 people, which are unsatisfied with the lightning. That is not something that should be swept away by resellers or MSI and taken lightly.
This is the truth and if you can`t deal with it, then don`t come attacking other people`s opinions. They matters equally much as yours and it should be something you should think about before getting all defensive next time.

As for the satisfaction poll, I should have renamed it to keyboard poll because it is about the keyboard. There is no point in putting the flex option there because that is something that is real with this laptop.

Frankly I am getting very frustrated about your bias and your need to attack everyone who have an opinion, and FYI I will write in this thread as much as I want, whenever I want. You don`t own it, MSI don`t own it. I have asked legit questions, last about how the LEDs are wired up in the keyboard to get an understanding.

Last, I may get this laptop. I have already spoke to resellers about it, and said that a purchase could come. I also have said that I will wait for the next 570M version to make up my mind, hence the "waiting waiting waiting". I am not going to ask your permission to do that. Heck I may even stop coming to this forum to write my good review of GT780R when I get it, just in spite of your attitude.

Why would an RGB LED light less than a white LED or any other single colour?

 

YEP! (10 characters....)

 

LOL! TRUTH? Ok, so your poll is the truth of this notebook's keyboard situation..... what, nationwide, globally? Sorry, but as I explained in the poll's thread, I see it as a mere sampling of folks here at NBR, and I questioned it validity, since there are no control conditions whatsoever..... as to WHOM can take the poll. Making this point was an attack or bias?

No attitude, No bias, No attacks..... You keep saying these things, but Where? Funny you should see this when there is simply opposing viewpoint. Making these accusations does not change my opinion on the matter. No one is telling you what to write, only citing an opinion of what youv'e written..... which all are free to do here.

As to the poll, what I had to say is here, and forgive me if you can not see any merit therein.

No need to spite my percieved attitude. I look forward to you getting the GT780R, and your written review. Let's see how that works out.

Anyhow, Nuff said..........

 

Come on guys it's just a laptop , what you guys gained from arguing over it.Come on chilled out

 

LOL! Not to worry, I'm done for now!

 

I also agree with MSI on this.

 

Me three!

 

They don't emit less light. This issue is the placement of the of the light relative to the key and the light zoning, of the 3 zones.

 

Here's a picture of my keyboard:

Spoiler

 

Looks fine by me xMAR

 

Why i don't see much video review on this laptop from those people who already own it??

 

I'll probably do an unboxing/review of mine once it arrives Tuesday.

I figured I probably should stay with the 560m model because the 570m would bump up the price considerably. I also take it as a nod to not play too many games down at GTech and rather just do scripting/3D modeling for coursework haha.

As much as I'd like the 570m, my budget clearly does not fit it in, especially with a better hard drive option and a better wireless card. For those considering it, I bet it will be a stellar option.

 

Well there's an increment of US595 from gtx 560m to gtx 580m , so does that mean we need to spit out additional US300 for the gtx 570m version??

 

Maybe, maybe not, it all depends. You are probably close in your guess-timate, between the 560M and 570M. But if the current enviroment is any indicator...... and MSI continues to sanction liberal configurations of the SKU, overall the price may not be so much higher. Will simply depend on how richly you configure your notebook. We'll see..... the waiting is killer!

 

Well Striker if i really hope i could get this configuration

Intel Core i7-2820QM | nVidia GTX 570M | 8 GB DDR3-1333 | 500 GB HDD, | DVD Optical Drive | Intel ultimate-n 6300 wifi card

I'm thinking of discarding the second HDD so that I could invest more on the CPU and wifi card , IC diamond doesn't worth a buck am i right??Should i stick to the stock paste??

 

Well if you wanna make things easier and save initially, perhaps consider the stock processor and WiFi card. You will still have yourself one heck of a nice notebook, and you can always have your favorite reseller upgrade these later..... if need be.

Just a thought.....

Oh, and sure, the MX-2 has tested nicely!

 

my budget can't exceed USD2k

 

Today is the day... come on UPS!!!

 

Excited, aren't you? Heck, I am excited for you too!

Let us know what you think.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/592635-easy-fix-gt780r-keyboard-light.html

 

I have the low light issue in that same area on mine.
I read through the easy fix but am a little reluctant to open my keyboard and place a piece of tape under there.
But I did try something else.
I pressed hard on the right Alt key and the light brightened up in the problem area. I did this a couple times and it seemed to fix the light issue on it's own.
I'm not sure why or how it did but it definitely worked!
I'm sure it will be just temporary, but if I can fix it by just pressing on the right alt key with a little extra force to fix it then I'm am by far alright with that!!