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I never said that reading isn't easy on a 1080p screen. What I've said is that very many applications loose a lot of their usability, if the resolution is 1080p and when using a 17inch sreen. You can scale text, but you rarely can scale anything else in Windows without messing something up. Almost no program does this well, and that is why 1080p is in my opinion nonsense. Of course it depends on what you use your computer for, but I would say that the 1080p brings more disadvantages than advantages. That may change if Microsoft acts on their scaling techniques, but only time will tell...

 

Arrogance = when you call things "nonsense" as you offer an opinion.

Particularly when by far THE most popular and demanded resolution for gaming laptops is Full HD (1920x1080).

I think you might do better in another forum. You obviously have no place here if indeed that is your opinion. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if that is indeed yours, you are flying in the face of reality for gaming laptops. I think you might be better served looking for a good multimedia laptop.

 

The consumer is not always right.

They also wanted glossy displays, and look where we are now. Almost everything has a glossy display. Nice... And now a lot of people want them back, since they've realised that glossy isn't that good after all, and that it even causes health problems.

1080p is "hot" at the moment. Same thing that glossy was starting to be years ago. 1080p is forcing people to squint their eyes a lot, because a lot of programs aren't meant to be used in such a high resolution on a 17inch (or, go forbid, a 15inch) screen. People tend to go what is popular, not what might be the best opinion in the long run.

There is a 1600x900 version of this latop coming out. Why isn't it going to be on the European market, but not on the USA market? It's probably because MSI thinks it won't sell in the USA. And why is that? Could it be because it's not "hot" at the moment? Or that it would hurt their image as a "serious gamers machine"?

Think about it...

 

Too funny.

I now have a new definition of arrogance.

Arrogance = JanneM

The consumer is not always right...but you can bet that JanneM is

JanneM, can you please also help us out with what foods we should eat, what movies to watch, and when to go to the bathroom?

I think that is about enough flaming...Please, just move on.

 

But seriously. So many are rejoicing about the matte screen on this machine. I don't think this would've been the case 5 years earlier. Why is this?

It's because money talks.

No serious gaming notebook 5 years ago had a matte screen. It wouldn't have sold so many units. Even though it would had been better.

 

I can't for the life of me figure out how to use CamStudio... XD
Fraps only records 30 seconds...
Anyone have suggestions for a screen recorder that's free?

I still don't understand why i can't play wow at 60+ fps.
I wish I still had subscriptions to Rift, that would look nice on this machine.

 

PLEASE!

Good luck with that 1600X900 screen, and your notebook subwoofer!

 

personally, i have full hd now and was using 1600x900 before. i'd say i will never go back. i really like the real estate of this resolution. anyway, is there a way to make it go to logon screen after you press the screen shutoff on S-bar?

 

I have to have a 1080p screen as my HD video editing and animation software require it. It's not just gamers who are buying these high end laptops. These machines are a must for my 3d modeling / animation, 1080p raw video editing and effects, and HD motion graphics.

Has anyone tested this laptop with Adobe After Effects and Premiere as well as 3DS Max 2012? I'm still waiting for mine.

 

OK, I took the GT780R apart and applied thermal paste on for "peace of mind."
Before I repasted, the notebook was running cool GPU temp of max 76 C after two rounds of 3dmark vantage and 77C after overlocking GPU and running 3dmark vantage.
After I applied IC diamond 7 to both GPU and CPU, the temp dropped 1 degree C on CPU and GPU. Same when over locked. In conclusion, I do not recommend repasting yourself to IC diamond 7. The stock thermal paste when I opened the unit up, was properly applied and still liquidy.

On the other hand, it was quite easy to access the GPU and CPU. I believe it would be a simple matter to upgrade them in the future if notebook GPUs becomes more available.

 

No, to your questions, but your post makes an excellent point, and is well stated!

WELCOME to the party!

 

Good Job! Couldn't resist tearing that notebook apart, huh?

(I wouldn't recommend everyone do this, LOL!)

Thanks for the info!

 

Heh, yeah. My Asus G72VX was a pain in the getting to the GPU and CPU. Basically G72VX requires you to disassemble the entire laptop to pieces before you can repaste the GPU. After I did so, the computer benefitted greatly from the repasting to IC 7.

I was pleasently surprised with how easy it was to get to the GPU and the CPU on GT780R. I don't recommend repasting though since the stock paste was obviously adequate enough.

 

Thanks to the folks that have started to post reviews and comments about their new systems!

 

are the apps for stress-testing this beast free?

 

Sure...Furmark, Prime95 and Memtest86 are all free. Just Google for them.

 

Did you achieve these temperatures with the turbo fan?

 

Try remove one stick of RAM at a time to test, most likely one bad stick of RAM cause it.

People run Furmark +Prime 95 at the same time to do stress test.

Yes we do ship overseas, many customers ordered GT780R from outside of US, you can send me email regarding the order information.

 

Alright, so I've been playing with this beast of a laptop for a good two days now. I am in LOVE with the speakers in this thing! I mean, yeah, they're not gonna add up to my external speakers, but the only time I use my externals is when I'm in bed. I listen to music with iTunes as I sleep, and for some reason, the screen wouldn't stay off. Haha. So I had to shut it and plug in my external speakers. The THX TrueStudio Pro software makes it sound even better that way. My only complaint with the software is that it has no equalizer. And my only complaint with the sound in general is that there's no way to adjust the volume without going into the taskbar. I was used to being able to do it on the quick access buttons on my HP dv6700 or whatever it was. This is coming from someone who demands the absolute best sound quality he can get in the music he gets. I'm somewhat of a musician and very much so a music enthousiast. I have over 5000 songs in my music collection, and that's after deleting a few thousand over the years. xDD I'm very impressed.

I've installed GTA IV, Crysis 2, Dirt 3, Just Cause 2, and Mafia 2 on the machine, but the only one I've actually played is GTA IV. I don't know much about graphics settings or anything, but I know almost all the levels were set at the highest possible, but one wasn't at high instead of very high. And the view distance was about half way up. It ran pretty smooth. The games I'm installing soon are Sims 3, Fallout 3 GotY Edition, Fallout New Vegas, Metro 2033, and Need for Speed Shift 2 Unleashed. So I'm very glad to hear that Fallout 3 will run at 60FPS on high! But I'll also be nodding the ever living hell out of it as I always do, so we'll see just how far I can pus that. I would gladly post the FPS I get with games, if I had any idea whatsoever what I was doing in the aspect. xDD

Little update on the screen. I just watched the last half of season five of Doctor Who on it. I'm pleasantly surprised. I was sure that as soon as I got it that I was going to steal the HDMI cord from my 360 and plug all my gear up to it, but honestly the only thing I've used is an external mouse. I now see no real need for my bigger screen. Until I get a 1080p screen, anyways. Playing GTA and watching Doctor Who on it was very pleasant and felt right. I now realize why people say desktop replacement. Very pleased in that regard.

I like the crisp picture of 1080p and the extra real estate it gives, but I have pretty bad eyesight, so it does get a little tedious and time consuming trying to find the right settings and sizes, but how I have it set now is pretty reasonable, and I'm not really complaining about it. It would be nice to have a bit more control over the sizes of things, though. But overall, it's still nice. Watching Blu-Ray will be AWESOME! xDD

But anyways... it's after 5 am, and my arms and eyes hurt now. Haha.

Oh, yes, someone asked about the keyboard. Typing on mine is overall very pleasant. I haven't really experienced any flex, even by the arrow keys. The movements are very fluid and the keys feel awesome to press. Some people complain about the produced noise, but I actually enjoy being able to hear my strokes and the sound of typing. It's not loud and annoying, but it's audible and oddly relaxing to me. But they feel awesome! Haha.

If anyone has requests or questions that don't involve me taking the thing apart, just ask! Just be warned that I'm not very experienced when it comes to high-end PC gaming, so it might take some time and/or coaching.

 

@kevin thanks for the review , could you please provide some benchmarks with 3dmakr or any other software? , and what about crysis 2 fps , try running it on max grafix and please share your results with us, Thanks!

 

For those interested, MSI has released an EC (embedded controller) firmware update. The download, info, and flash instructions can be found HERE!

I have also added this to the lead post, and it can be found in the 'Official MSI GT780 Downloads' section, as the 'Firmware' link.

 

That has a May 3rd release date, and there is only one there. Are you sure it is an update?

 

I noticed that too Donald, and you ask a very good question, which should be investigated. Perhaps you could look into this further for us.

What I can tell you, is this download was NOT previously available, and only recently posted.

 

It also says: Description First release.

The fact that it wasn't there before just means they hadn't posted it previously.

 

OK, thanks for looking out for us Donald! Greatly appreciated!

Since this update just posted, I assume folks doing fresh WIN 7 installs will need to be aware of this, right?

 

No, there is no need to load either the BIOS or EC when doing a fresh OS install. They are already loaded. You would only need to update them with a bootable flash drive should they ever be updated.

 

Super! Thanks again for your help Donald!

 

Nope, I didn't turn on the turbo fan or the turbo boost button. I just used MSI afterburner to overclock the GPU and memory. I let the computer handle the fan. The turbo fan is a bit too loud for me so I try to avoid it as much as possible.

 

For 3DMark, I will try to figure out how to work this contraption. xDD I'm taking a bit of a break from my computer for right now, so I can let it run. As for the Crysis 2 FPS thing... 1) I have no idea how to measure FPS in a game. B) Someone else already tested this and said that the FPS is so low that's it's unplayable.

 

This is only if you are having trouble and want to upgrade bios, right? I have zero problems with GT780R so there is no need for me to upgrade?

I believe the Crysis 1 FPS is unplayable. Crysis 2 with DX11 off would be very much playable, though I don't have the game so don't quote me on this. I saw video of ken playing Crysis 2 on GT780R on youtube and it seemed extremely smooth.

 

We know that a GT780R, stock and strait from the box, should have a 3DMark11 performance score around P2019. As for Crysis 2, it should definitely be playable, and should look something like THIS!

 

I will try it soon then! I'm working on getting 3DMark Vantage now!

 

I ended up "upgrading" both the BIOS and the firmware purely out of idiocy. But, at least know that it won't kill you or your computer.

Man, I'm so glad other people are testing games too finally. Please share all your experiences.

[Question from me]
1) How do I enable CinemaPro without it launching windows media player?

[Trivia from me]
1) With the S-Bar DISABLED, following buttons will still WORK from the touch bar above the keyboard. (Relative location in order from left in parentheses)

• (3rd) Turbo Fan button
• (4th) Backlit keyboard button
• (5th) Wifi button
• (6th) Bluetooth button
• (1st) MSI Graphics OC button ((aka the P1 button))

2) With S-Bar DISABLED, following buttons will NOT WORK from the touch bar above the keyboard. (Relative location in order from left in parentheses)

• (8th) Disk drive eject button (only tested on an external disk drive, plz confirm if same is the case with the stock internal disk drive)
• (2nd) CinemaPro button
• (7th) EmergencyPornDisable button

3) All touch bar buttons above the keyboard will respond slower when the S-Bar is disabled.

Hope that helps. Please let me know if the case is different on your GT780R.

 

Yes, I can confirm the same here...I also hate that star and want it gone...

I could not understand MSI tying the eject bottom to the S-bar...Now when I want to eject a CD or DVD I have to go drive E...Sucks...

Still researching a way to shoot the star and still get the juice...lol

 

YIPPEE!

Ken has finished juicing up my GT780R, and according to UPS, it will arrive no later than Friday! Also, got my USB 3.0 Supersonic Magnum and backpack today!

 

Nice! what backpack did you get? I need to pick one up too.

 

Possible solutions to disk drive button annoyance thus far:
1) Keep S-Bar enabled at all times
2) Replace face plate with the generic flat one as all oem disk drives such as this one come with the button, in GT780R the faceplate just covers it up (this will not look as pretty since the stock faceplate is rather thick and the generic ones are flat) <<see pic >> however this requires you to pull out the disk drive
3) (this is what i did in anticipation) replace disk drive with hard drive
4) (a radical option) bore a hole or cut a U shape into the stock faceplate <<not recommended>> <<may require Ken's tools of trade>>
5) wait to see if msi will sell a buttoned faceplate as an option

 

The Everki Beacon

NewEgg Product Tour

Enjoy!

 

Please tell me you're not gonna be carrying the GT780R with the playstation3 XD XD

 

Maybe with my XBox 360, LOL! (NOT!)

 

Omg, Thank you! That is like exactly what I've been looking for, and my favorite colors! Ordering!

 

im getting this one. same brand
Everki Swift Laptop Backpack 17in at Memory Express Computers

anyways, how come when im installing 275.33 or 275.50 gpu driver it says its incompatible?

 

make sure its the mobile one, I did the same thing

 

yep. i downloaded the mobile version. twice. same thing. hmm..

 

Yeah, I am please with this one, and much nicer when you actually have it in hand. Lots of room, plenty of pockets, cinches in all the right places, tough, nice fabrics, very nicely design, and stylish..... I think you will like it!

 

how well does it fit inside?

 

Are you downloading the driver from THIS page? It should work fine. You may need to flush the graphics driver from the system, and start over.

Also, on the Swift model backpack, I was concern more room may be needed...... that it might not be a good fit for the GT780R. Please let us know if it's a snug fit, if you get zipper contact, and if there is enough room for plenty of extra goodies.

Thanks!

 

Anymore recommendations?

Is Targus or Belkin or Deuter actually good?
I know nuts about bagpacks, there I need advice..

I don't know where to find Everki bagpacks at Malaysia Y_Y
Therefore I need other alternatives..

 

Actually, I can't honestly tell you that until my GT780R arrives later this week, but it's looks to be plenty of room, and judging from dimensions, it should be perfect with a little extra room to spare. It is designed for notebooks up to 18", PLUS a game console, so I am not at all worried.

Also, several have commented that it accomodates the G73 very well.

 

it finally worked after restarting and trying for the third time.lol. i might get it after a week, if it doesn't fit i can always return it back. can you post a pic of yours with the notebook inside once you get yours? Thanks!