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    Ideapad Y510P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MJG1492, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. gomess023

    gomess023 Notebook Enthusiast

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    when playing games with sli, why does it seem to have a lot more screen tearing on the bottom of the screen it seems. two games are behaving odd for me. 2k13 is all blurry and seems weird on sli. like bio shock infinite has screen tearing just on the bottom and bits of flickering. is that an sli issue? because when disabling sli both games work normally
     
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    ^ does anyone know how to fix this issue?
     
  3. EmberV

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    No need to double post. IIRC this is a common problem with some games that just don't like to run on SLI. Have you tried forcing vsync on in Nvidia control panel?
     
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    holy crap thnx so much i switched vsync to on(smooth) and it eliminated the entire issue. is there a differnece between the setting being on or on(smooth)
     
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    Just use Adaptive Vsync. Vsync (smooth) is a setting only for SLI which makes it so that whenever your FPS drops below 60, instead of quickly oscillating between 30 FPS and 60 FPS as in traditional double-buffered Vsync, it just locks in at 30 FPS until it detects you can maintain at least 60 FPS for an extended period of time, then it shoots back up to 60. This will reduce your performance but maintain more consistent FPS instead of having it jump back-and-forth. It's also supposed to reduce the input lag associated with Vsync, but I've never tested it myself because I refuse to use any type of Vsync period.

    What is Smooth Vsync?

    NVidia 313.96 "smooth" vsync option for SLI
     
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    Is there any way to turn the stupid auto brightness off?
     
  7. Jobine

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    You mean the auto-brightness on battery?

    Go in the Intel HD control panel, under power options, under battery, the option to disable it should be somewhere in there, if my memory serves right.
     
  8. Reclusiarch

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    Hello from sunny Africa

    I bought a y510p a few weeks ago, after a few days I realized or noticed that sometimes my 0-p[;./ keys would stop working. I was extremely worried about this.

    But after a few tests and process of elimination I found out that while gaming and the temp goes up to over 70 on the CPU, that is when those keys stop working. You can play no problem but your laptop has to come down to below 60 again before those keys start working again.

    Anyone else notice this? Is this a design flaw or should I be worried?

    If you put your ear close to they keyboard in that area you can also hear a electrical interference sound, like the hard drive working or something.
     
  9. Revolution09

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    Anyone having problems with sli not working on windows 8.1?
     
  10. octiceps

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    It doesn't. The temporary solution given by Lenovo is to use the GeForce 307.64 driver. SLI works in Windows 8.1 with this driver but you lose support for newer games.

    EDIT: Scratch that. I do believe this older driver only supports 650M SLI. If you have the Y500/Y510p with 750M/755M SLI I'm afraid you're out of luck at this point. Sorry.
     
  11. Jobine

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    750M users should try 311.54, the stock drivers for the 750M provided on Lenovo's website.
     
  12. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    If 8 is working perfectly (mine is) why would you even attempt to upgrade to 8.1? Is there some great new feature set in 8.1I'm not aware of?

    Cheers,
     
  13. octiceps

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    There isn't, at least not for people like me who never use Metro and already have a good third-party UI fix like StartIsBack. And in some ways it's even worse than Windows 8 with all the deceptive practices and things like the removal of Windows 7 File Recovery along with its automatic Windows Backup feature, which I use on a regular basis. But some people just like to have the newest-and-greatest thing whether or not it actually benefits them. I mean I haven't even updated to iOS 7 on my iPhone and iPad because I'm not a phone and tablet person so I just don't care.

    I know Windows 8 has basically been deprecated now with the release of 8.1, but I'm just gonna keep using it until support for it stops in two years, and then I'm either moving on to Windows 9 if it's been released yet and is good, or I'm going back to Windows 7.
     
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    I figured out how to fix my second video card not working on windows 8.1. Just uninstall you current video card drivers, restart your computer and then install 320.49 WHQL NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce 320.49 Driver WHQL. It's only a temporary fix until lenovo fixes the problem.
     
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    Hi all

    This may belong in a different thread but thought I would ask the owners!

    Basically was thinking of getting the new dell xps system but the price for me is ridiculous

    So now looking at the y510p - looks good bang for the buck

    Just wanted to know what sort of problems I should look out for - any configurations that are better than others etc

    I assume an ssd can be fittted?

    Does it still have trackpad issues I know the y500 supposed to have had issues in the past

    Looking to buy from the us too through ebay as a lot cheaper than in the uk
    thanks for any advice - will slowly be going through some of these 200 pages
     
  16. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    Indeed. I concur. I usually don't like to upgrade unless it's necessary. I have 2 Windows PCs and a Windows Tablet. All run Windows 8 and are working as they should. I don't need the start button and us them to run Windows applications or games. I don't really care what the underlying OS is.

    I did update to iOS 7 and while I don't like the overall look it works well and I haven't had any real issue except the lack of push support in Exchange.

    Cheers,
     
  17. raptir

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    Well, it depends on what you're looking for in the laptop. If you want to play new games on high settings, definitely get the SLI configuration as that will be your best shot. The SLI card does get hot and seriously hinders your battery life (even when disabled, you would need to remove the card entirely by shutting down and removing the battery to get the battery life improvement) so just consider if you need the power.

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M SLI - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    Those two sites might be a good gauge for what kind of games each setup will run. Make sure to get the 1080p display and the 24GB SSD cache, but other than that just choose between the ultrabay (SLI card, Bluray or DVD).
     
  18. Jobine

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    Single is best for 720p gaming/portability/watching movies and SLI is best for 1080p/external monitor gaming or rendering/compute.

    As for the battery life, you can get ~5 hours on Single (with Optimus/power saver) while only getting 2-3 hours on SLI.

    I personally recommend having both ultrabays.
     
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    For people that don't use v sync when playing. Do you disable the feature in game or under nvidia control panel.
     
  20. EmberV

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    It's LVDS all the way through, no converter board or anything.

    Here is a few panels that would work:
    1600x900, matte, 15.6": AUO B156RW01 V.3
    1600x900, glossy, 15.6": AUO B156RW01 V.0
    1920x1080, matte 15.6": LG Display LP156WF1-TLB2 (this is used by Lenovo officially)
    1920x1080, glossy 15.6": LG Display LP156WF1-TLC1 (this is used by Lenovo officially)
    1920x1080, matte, 15.6": high color gamut: AUO B156HW01 V.4
    1920x1080, glossy, 15.6": high color gamut: AUO B156HW01 V.7
     
  21. EmberV

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    Because I CBA to list out every single compatible panel. There are probably like at least 30 compatible replacements with different resolutions, surface finishes, and contrast ratios, but I feel that these were the best ones of the bunch. Feel free to look through them yourself.
    That's a Panelook internal code and doesn't mean anything. As long as it's 40-pin LVDS, is a 15.6" panel, and has the same mounting solution it will work. I replaced my y410p's screen with a different one (they all come with glossy screens and I wanted matte) with a different "pin configuation" code and it works fine.
     
  22. EmberV

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    Yes, I'm sure.

    Those 1920x1080 15.6" IPS panels (LP156WF3-SLB2 and LP156WF3-SLB1) made by LG Display that you are referring to are 50-pin LVDS which doesn't work since you only have a 40-pin LVDS interface. Also it looks like the panel's connector is in the wrong location (top right). It looks like the backlight on those models also has its own connector which is not present on the y510p. There is a 1366x768 panel available that should work but I don't know why you would downgrade to such low resolution just for IPS. I didn't check the connector location, but check it just to be sure.

    The 1920x1080 panels I listed are 2-channel 6-bit 40-pin LVDS, which match up with what Lenovo uses officially in the 1920x1080 y510p variants and will just be a straight swap. I forgot to mention in my last post that the location of the connector is important too, so just check some reference photos, but the ones I listed are fine. The connector should be in the bottom left when flipped around. The Hardware Maintenance Manual does not specify a different cable type for the 1600x900 screens vs the 1920x1080 screens, so it will just be a simple panel swap regardless of what resolution version you are coming from.

    Different companies make panels that are compatible with each other because they know that OEMs like Lenovo will buy them to fill out their supply chain. Relying on a single manufacturer doesn't make sense, will cause delays in manufacturing if the product is in high demand, and you will not get the best price.
     
  23. EmberV

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    This panel also has the wrong mounting solution for the y510p. You need side mounting holes (8-M2) on left, right bezel. The panel you found has face mounting holes (8 pcs) on up, down slugs.
     
  24. dzylon

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    I too plan on doing this. Did you get the high gamut screen? If so, would you say it was worth the price difference?
     
  25. EmberV

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    Hi, I said I have the y410p. This has the 14.0" screen and there are no compatible high color gamut options available for me.

    If you search around on Google a bit, the AUO B156HW01 series seems to be well regarded and has nice colors, though it is not an IPS panel. Make sure you are getting the correct version from the seller so you know you get the specs you wanted. Also be aware that if you want to replace the screen on the y510p, you will have to take apart the entire laptop. So the process is ultrabay device, back cover, hard drive, keyboard, palm rest, motherboard, speakers and power connector, hinges, then screen bezel. Refer to the hardware maintenance manual for complete instructions. I was able to do my y410p in about an hour without losing or forgetting any screws, so the laptop is certainly easy to take apart. Just be careful when taking apart the LCD bezel, it is tricky and you will need a plastic wedge to undo the clips that hold it together.
     
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    Hi guys
    Ive just gone and bought a y510p

    Its comes with a 24gb Msata Cache Drive

    Just thinking is it worth swapping this out for something like a 128gb m4 msata drive? Would it fit - up to the right spec?

    Or perhaps go with a full size ssd......any recommendation or thoughts would be appreciated
     
  27. octiceps

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    No it won't fit. The SSD slot in the Y510p is 42 mm M.2, not mSATA.
     
  28. AnarchyBurger8t8

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    Anyone running windows 8.1 yet? It just came out as a free update, I'm wondering how the nvidia drivers are for gaming.

    I don't want to install the update then have bad drivers that are unstable. I'm currently on 320.49 cause they are most stable for my 750 sli set up, in my experience.
     
  29. octiceps

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    I'm sure others who have updated can chime in on this, but from what I've read I highly recommend not doing it. I've seen everything from SLI not working to games freezing and crashing to display blurriness and visual glitches, not to mention 8.1 is a step backward from 8 in many ways since M$ in their infinite wisdom decided to remove or alter a lot of useful features.
     
  30. berrykerry789

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    I've installed windows 8.1 and can confirm that the single 750m has no issues on ir. I'm not sure about SLI though.
     
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    I couldn't access the second SLI card with 8.1. I tried to trick of using an old driver that some people are suggesting, and that allowed SLI, but I experienced a few crashes that were specifically caused by the drivers. Fortunately, I backed up an image before upgrading, so it was no problem going back to 8 for me.
     
  32. Jobine

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    What is the version number of that driver? I need to know this.
     
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    It's the 307.64 driver.
     
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    It works with 750M right? On windows 8.1?
     
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    Nvidia just released new drivers btw, so try giving those a shot.
     
  36. Jobine

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    Don't have SLI yet. And the Nvidia drivers work A-OK with single Card.
     
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    Thanks for the replies so far. I'm glad I didn't update to 8.1. I'll have to read more info about the drivers. For now I'll stick to windows 8 plus start menu 8 to boot to desktop and enable the start menu.
     
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    Arggh ok that sucks

    Do you recommend getting a ssd anyway to replace the blu ray drive - any recommendations?.....worth doing do you think even if there is a ssd cache drive?

    First thing ill probably do is a clean install - any best drivers too use - I hear the track-pad is a bit flaky?
     
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    Is there anybody using this notebook with a cooler pad? If there is could u tell me when you play a game like (Battlefield 3 or Metro last Light) about 2 - 3 hours what is the temps?(Cpu and Gpu) I really want to buy this notebook but overheating could be a problem. Can someone help me? Whats the main cons about this notebook?

     
  40. HUSH1994

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    Nvidia driver 331.58 does not support SLI D;
     
  41. Jobine

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    Stick with the stock ones on Lenovo.com for now. Unfortunately, they are the only ones that work :/
     
  42. dragonwolf8504

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    Hey all, I'm thinking about joining the bandwagon here, lol.

    See my sig for all owned laptops, but the Alienware has plans of possibly going back. I wanted to know how good this laptop is. Specific model I am looking at is $999

    Lenovo IdeaPad Y510p 15.6" Laptop Computer - Dusk Black 59388313 - Micro Center

    I figure I would need to upgrade the ram in it which would set me back another $150 (tops) and add in an mSata SSD which would be another $2xx all in I'd be at about $1400, The Alienware cost me $1925 after taxes, and the SSD was like $190+ tax, so about $2117 back, then about $1400-$1500 for the Ideapad setup, I'd get some money back. They also have an open box of the Ideapad w/o an SSD for about $100 if I can get my hands on that one.

    My questions are, now that it's been out awhile, how is the ram configured (2x4 w 2 extra slots open, 2x4GB and you''dneed to upgrade it to 2x8GB?) What size mSATA SSD should I be looking for? Also how is the gaming performance on it with sli graphics now that the drivers have had a few months to mature? Also how is temperatures? I'm used to dual cooling (cpu and gpu each get their own cooling.) I've been reading that the GT750M's in SLI could be close to a GTX 770M in a lot of areas, but all those reviews were somewhat older and now that the drivers have had some time to mature I figured they would be even better (performance wise).

    I can return my Alienware today and tomorrow is the last day I can return it (15 day return policy.)

    If I had the time I really would have read through all the pages, but as there are over 200 pages and I am kind of pushed for time, I figured I would ask. No hurting in asking right?

    Hope a few respond soon.
     
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    Microcenter has a really good deal on the y510p, it's the SLI model, but it only has a hybrid HDD+8GB cache SSD onboard (no separate M.2 SSD). On Lenovo.com, it's $1,199.20 with the discounts currently.

    The RAM in the y510p is 2 slots. Both are stuffed with 4GB 1600MHz sticks when you get the laptop, but Microcenter sells a 16GB (2 x 8GB) 1600MHz Crucial kit that will work perfectly.

    There is no mSATA port, instead there is a M.2 port. There are not many M.2 SSD's available yet and you can only use 42mm ones, that is if yours even has the port soldered on (they were leaving them off on models without cache SSD's from the factory, I don't know if they are doing that still). MyDigitalSSD is selling a 42mm M.2 120GB model for $99 which will be fine to just install your OS on. Intel and others should have their M.2 SSD's out later this year or early next year if you want to wait.

    The y510p runs hot, but that can be avoided with a cooling pad.

    As far as graphics performance, it will vary from game to game. Some games will scale better with SLI than others. My rule of thumb is to get the better card if you can afford it rather than buying two cheaper and weaker cards for SLI.

    I'm not really a fan of Alienware. When I see someone with one, I just think that they are just a pleb for spending so much for something they could have gotten cheaper and better. It's a lot like people who buy Beats by Dre: it's a fashion statement. You essentially bought a riced Dell Precision M6700 with some LED's and "gaming" aesthetics.

    I guess the only cool thing about the Alienware is that it has MXM graphics, so you could slot in a GTX8xxM series MXM card when they come out, in theory. But it will cost you a LOT.
     
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    Thanks, I want to say that I WAS A HATER, always going with something 'lower' (Asus, Toshiba, Samsung). I should say lower as in price really. I kind of am a little offended with the statement of plebs but meh. Anyhow onwards. I bought the Alienware as it was an open box item and I needed something NOW at the time. As my Samsung was acting really bad and I didn't have the time to mess with it. School and a few small odd online jobs here and there really requires a lot considering. (The Samsung has had a bad track record with 2 warranty repairs in the year I owned it.) Microcenter didn't have much when I went in and the Alienware was the best they had in stock without giving up any performances, that was also before I looked up SLI'd gpu's. (Microcenter didn't have any ideapads in stock at the time either as the rep checked as they knew a little about the y510p and figured I could give it a shot) The other issue is Microcenter is about an hours drive from me, so I can't keep going back unless I know I'm gonna get some money back.

    My issue isn't so much I still hate Alienware now, the build and accessibility is GREAT! Easy to clean, easy to upgrade down the road and the GTX 770M has been doing wonderfully. There is NO flex in the keyboard or anything. It's top notch all around, and after playing around on other laptops. (Asus G series from the Core 2 Duo days to the i7 2630M) The Samsung, I tested a Toshiba Qosmio out, but didn't like the temps I was getting. So it went back. Now, My Samsung is working ok, though the lid hinges seems a little lose and it's out of warranty. I'm still paranoid of opening it up fully to only break something. So my problem is, should I take the Alienware back (Which I am happy with) for a different laptop, do a desktop build (which I would give up portability, but I still have my Samsung I guess) or just keep the Alienware? While I love the Alienware and probably would regret taking it back. The price is a little hard to swallow, specially now that it seems Microcenter has other laptops in stock now. My biggest peeve is Windows 8. I don't mind the interface, but I HATE it on a non touch screen computer. Windows 7 has no issues playing all my games and even does a few better. So a laptop that can be downgraded to Windows 7 is not really a requirement but VERY preferable.

    This is why I figured I would ask around on different laptops. It's nice to know about the SSD setup, I would need to either upgrade to a a large capacity SSD (SATA) or just a faster HDD (I've seen some 7,200RPM HDD's in the 1TB capacity for about $80. While not SSD it's not slow as a 5,400RPM HDD. Depending on those costs it would also deam me getting this model or going to Asus or such.

    I also should mention I have an Coolermaster Notepal U3 (Has 3 movable 80MM fans on it.)

    I do appreciate any and all help though so thank you.
     
  45. EmberV

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    You're welcome. That cooling pad with be fine, I have the y410p so the Notepal U2 Plus is fine for me.

    Guys, I need a favor from someone who has an unlocked BIOS SLI y510p!
    It would be much appreciated if you could run through a few menus of the advanced menu in the BIOS and take a photo of each screen so I could see what the settings are.
    I'm interested in the video configuration menu and submenus and the PCI Express configuration menu and submenus.

    Thanks!
     
  46. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Come on, you know where to find this. :p

    Lenovo Y410p / Y510p - unlocked BIOS / wlan whitelist mod / vbios mod
     
  47. EmberV

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    These pictures don't show the inside of the menus I asked for.
     
  48. octiceps

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    Then you'd be better served asking this on Tech Inferno. That's the source of all this.
     
  49. Sunfirestorm

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    So i don't have any of those game but i played dota 2 on max everything for a few hours, I have the SLI version of the 510p. Using Cooler Master NotePal U3. After 2 hours of playing on the highest settings graphics cards where at about 65C and the cpu was around 80C. I think i might get a bit better temps if i move the fans around though. Hope it helps
     
  50. Baulderstone

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    For everyone having SLI issues, Lenovo has been in touch on their forums and expect a new version of VBIOS to be out in a week or two.
     
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