Ideapad Y510P

https://communities.intel.com/thread/31090?start=810&tstart=0 After reading this link it looks like the people at fault are intel and their horrible network cards......guess it isn't Lenovo's fault?

 

The fans push the heat towards the sides. The keyboard can get warm.

To put a new WiFi card, you need to flash the modded BIOS (pm me if you need it, i can email it to you) and then install the new WiFi.

To be able to use the Intel GPU, the laptop must only have one 750M. So you will need to remove the battery. When using the Intel GPU, with power saver mode, with mid to low brightness, bluetooth off, doing light browsing on Wifi, it is not uncommon to get 4-5 hours.

 

One question, does the single Gpu version have the same temperature problems? does anyone own it?

 

Single-GPU has cooler surface temps but the same internal temps.

 

Hey man. Any other fixes I can do? Or the only option to fix my wifi is a new network card?

 

To install a new network card, you will need the modded bios (i can email to you) otherwise it will be whitelisted.

 

Are you sure? shouldn´t it be cooler because it has only one gpu?

 

Removing the battery isn't exactly an option But Optimus still allows for a similar battery life, correct?

 

Wow i made a huge typo. You will need to remove the Ultrabay 750M. Yes, optimus offers similar battery life

 

That makes a lot more sense lol, thanks.

 

But is that the only option to fix these signal issues? Put in a new network card?wont I void my warranty if I open up the machine and replace the network card? I don't want to return this computer but to get horrible wifi connection most of the time is unacceptable for a laptop. Losing signal 20 ft away from my router is ridiculous.

 

Mine doesn't have any wireless issues and i'm using the 14.8 drivers ....

 

Well in one room in my house the 14.8 works. Does yours have a g connection or n? Once I go into another room which is about 10 feet further. My signal drops by a lot. This doesn't happen to you?

If I continue to have problems do
You think I should just request another unit? It seems many people with the Y510P have problems so I'm not sure if this is an isolated issue.

 

Or you could just spend 30$ and get a 7260.

Amazon.com: Intel Network 7260.HMWG WiFi Wireless-AC 7260 H/T Dual Band 2x2 AC+Bluetooth HMC: Computers & Accessories

 

Will that card work without flashing the BIOS? If I put that card in will it void
Warranty with Lenovo laptop?

 

If I plug in a HDMI cord in, should it automatically show up on my tv? It was before but now it's not and I'm a little worried my HDMI is busted.
Or is there something I have to do to enable it through the nvidia control panel?

 

I'm pretty sure that card is covered by the whitelist, so you won't need to flash the bios.

 

It is the same internal temp since unless you are doing something intensive usually the fans(cept for cpu) are not even spinning since they have no need your cpu can hit upwards of 80c (100c is its danger limit and it wont get that hot before a fan is way in overdrive) before it starts being considered hot and the gpu is around 70c id say with dual cards. Intel reference for you> ARK | Intel® Core also mine idles at about 46c with real temp and sitting on a bed suffocating the intake on purpose for testing. so heat is not really a problem for the unit its more of the users comfort.

 

Anyway to confirm for sure? I'd hate to buy a piece of hardware that isn't compatible. I appreciate your help man. I wonder if I ask Lenovo to send me a laptop with a different wireless network card....if they would do it. I consistently get 30% slower speeds than my other PCs on my network. Ugh.

 

If it doesn't work, you could always flash the bios and remove the whitelist, as Jobine said previously.

 

Just got off the phone with support. I could call post-sales and haggle them to send me the same machine with a different network card. It's not a guarantee but worth a try. The tech support guy said Lenovo deals with 3 wifi card manufactures: Atheros
Broadcomm, and Intel. Besides the card Jobine mentioned, are there any other network cards I should take a look at? I rather have Lenovo do the leg work and send me a new machine with a different wifi card than buy a wifi card on my own and find someone to install it.

 

Yeah, but Lenovo's shipping is hit-or-miss, it could be up to a month before you see your laptop again. On top of that, upgrading the WiFi manually is only a 30$ upgrade, and there is even an instructional video on youtube that shows you how to open up the laptop:

Lenovo Y400 Y500 Full Disassembly - YouTube

 

Intel makes the best WLAN cards on the market. Broadcomm and Atheros are noticeably inferior. So even if you get the Broadcomm or Atheros I doubt they'd be any better than the Intel 2230 as they are all low-end cards. You should see if you can get them to install the Intel AC 7260 for you at the factory, otherwise you'll need to flash the BIOS and install your own. All you need to do is pop off the bottom cover to access the WiFi. Easy-peasy and no need to pay someone else to install it for you. Purchasable FRU WLAN cards don't exist so the BIOS mod is a must.

 

1. The most reliable connection-wise cards i have used in my life are all Broadcoms. I've had bad experiences with Atheros and Intel.
2. Intel cards are not hackintosh compatible

But with that said, just buy the 7260, currently Broadcom/atheros do not offer any good cheap AC wifi cards.

Still havent replaced that SSD yet?

 

Do this at the phone sale point, when you place your order. They only will manufacture your special order with one of the three cards you mentioned. Post-sales would be too late to change anything. See the HMM for all your WiFi cards options. Search the Lenovo site for the Hardware Maintenance Manual. The WiFi cards are near the end.

 

Being the broke college student that I am, I'm going to wait until Black Friday to get a new mSATA SSD, either a Plextor M5M 256GB or a Crucial M500 240GB

 

I can relate to this

 

I have an Ideapad Y510p and a Nexus 4. The problem is when I connect my phone through the USB 3.0 ports of my Y510p it will always disconnect and then a few seconds later connects back again this goes on and on and the cycle never stops. I tried connecting my phone to my old laptop,an Acer 4750g, and the problem does not appear. So I think it is safe to assume that my Y510p is the problem. I tried connecting it to my USB 2.0 port and it does not read the device at all. Hope someone could help.

 

So the 7260 won't have the issues the 2230 have? Basically, I can get good speeds when I'm in certain rooms with the 2230. But as soon as I step into another room my speeds drop from 60 Mbps to 15-20 Mbps. I just want reasonable wifi range and speed like my $500 computer received. I have the realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n Wifi Adapter on my older laptop. No idea the quality of this thing but it outperforms the N-2230 by a significant margin.

Just want to make sure the 7260 has good connection before I go through with the purchase or ask Lenovo to put it in a new machine and ship it to me. Also, is my bluetooth adapter a part of my wireless adapter?

Thanks again guys for your insights.

 

I'm not sure what you're saying to do. Post-sales would send me out an entirely new device. Are you saying to completely do a refund with this and order an entire new machine and ask them to customize my NEW order? This seems like a hassle, why wouldn't post-sales be able to just send me a new laptop w/ a new card. It would be cool if they'd allow the 7260.

 

No, that's really not what I'm saying. Did you buy your machine directly from Lenovo, or some other reseller? I find it unusual to have the Lenovo post-sales to tell you that you can ship it back to them, and they will up-grade your wireless card by sending you another laptop. Are you still in the 21 day return period, and do you have an RMA?

http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/ww/ag/merchandising/us/popups/returnpolicy.html

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y410py510p_llw_psn_english.pdf

Did Lenovo post-sales really tell you that they "would send me out an entirely new device"? Multiple users have been complaining in these forums about the 2230 wireless cards. Why couldn't all the complainers just call post-sales, and Lenovo will just magically upgrade their cards, and send them an entirely new device?

These modifications are made in the ordering/build process. ie If you called Lenovo to order the laptop, you can ask them to put in a card that's on their Y510p HMM. Here is the HMM:

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y410py510p_hmm.pdf

These are the "approved" cards from the HMM: (Edit: You can not just buy any of these cards on the web. They have to be stamped with the Lenovo FRU. A generic card will not pass the boot up error message.)

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Note: I don't see the 7260 in this list. So if you are dealing directly with Lenovo, they will not put any other card that's not on this list. The only AC card they have is this: WLAN, WiFi AC+BT4.0, Ltn BCM4352+20702 2x2AC+BT4.0 HMC

If you are dealing with any other reseller, then I don't know what their policy is. Still, the Lenovo white list in the BIOS remains in effect. If you really want the darn 7260, you have to go with the modded BIOS, thereby forfeiting any Lenovo warranty.

So in the end, what I'm saying is, if you want a custom build from Lenovo, you have to call them when placing your order. Do not go for their "price busters" specials on the web. You need to know what the options are, according to their HMM, and spec sheet. Unfortunately the Y410p/Y510p spec sheet hasn't been released yet, but you can still call the sales team and ask what cards are available to build your laptop.

 

Hi !

Seeing I'm finding very little success in trying to obtain a proper response from Lenovo via their official means of communication, decided to try my luck here seeing you guys managed to amass whole 190 pages about this beautiful laptop.

I've recently bought one ( and by recently I mean two days ago ). I'm very pleased with the laptop, however, I've run into something that seems a common occurrence.

My retailer only had the DVD/RW model in stock. I went ahead and bought it, knowing fully well that I could order a Ultrabay expansion with another graphics card. Turns out, not so much.. I've been googling for past few hours about the availability of Ultrabay GT750M for y510p ( also, what's up with my graphics card being labeled as GT755m ? ) to pretty much no avail - if anyone has some information on when that accessory will be available, or where it can be bought, that'd be awesome. Don't get me wrong, the laptop is clearly capable of at least mid level settings at enjoyable FPS in all the latest games, but I'd prefer being able to run stuff at high.

 

Thanks for your reply Dragnoak. I bought directly from Lenovo and I've only had my laptop for about 5 days. I called support and spoke with a supervisor. He mentioned to try calling post-sales and requesting an entire new laptop with a different network card. My original sales rep mentioned the same thing, minus requesting a new network card b/c I didn't make that case when I spoke with him. I'm wary of voiding my warranty if I'm having quality issues this early with the laptop.....so I'll probably stick with a card that's on the HMM as you have pointed out.

Is the WiFi AC+BT4.0, Ltn BCM4352+20702 2x2AC+BT4.0 HMC any good? I'll check out some reviews online but I want to request the best card on that list you've posted. Unfortunately, I have no experience with network cards so my knowledge is vague.

 

Who is your retailer? Also, if you need a link to the SLI edition, here is one right here:

XOTIC PC | LENOVO IdeaPad Y510p (59375625)

 

A major computer sales shop acquired license from Lenovo to open a "Lenovo exclusive PC store", it's practically as if I bought it from Lenovo itself. ( note that I'm European ). I don't need the link to the SLI model as I already have a y510p, I just need to get myself a ultrabay gt750 ( or 755 ? whatever floats their boat ) to achieve SLI.

 

Problem is it is near impossible to find the card only. You are honestly better off returning the laptop and getting a SLI edition.

 

Thanks for explaining this. I don't work for Lenovo, I'm just a crazy volunteer.

If you are in the return period, and unhappy with the wireless card, then do the RMA return. They may, or may not, charge you the re-stocking fee, depending on your willingness to re-order a new machine with the wireless card that you want. Now that you know what cards are available, you can talk to them, and get the process rolling. Don't wait. The process takes time, and you don't want to have the return period expire, before they have your current laptop returned to them.

As far as the BCM4352 card, I only know what I read in the funny papers.

5G WiFi 2-Stream 802.11ac Transceiver - BCM4352 | Broadcom

IF I used WiFi, I think I'd be happy with this card. However, if you want to use the Intel WiDi, you can't do it with a BroadCom card. I say this because I only use my Intel N-1000 WiFi card, to do the WiDi to my Panasonic TV. The WiDi works great. My Y470 laptop is always wired into my router, for the 1 gig speed.

 

Honestly, I've never used Intel WiDi, but looking at it now I want to lol. I plan on calling post-sales Monday when they open. Are all new intel network cards compatible with WiDi? So the BCM4352 card is on the whitelist....and it's a good card for strictly wifi purposes? I'm honestly concerned with good wifi...... but this intel widi looks real interesting. Also, do I need to be concerned with these cards bluetooth capabilities? I believe bluetooth is integrated into my N-2230.

I appreciate all your help!

 

Are they honestly not selling them or well, at least planning to sell them ? That's a huge chunk of money they're losing.

 

Yes, all Intel cards can do WiDi, as long as you have the PROSet loaded, have an Intel processor, and Intel HD graphics. If you had a Y500, the Intel graphics could not be used, thereby making a lot of users mad. At the TV, you also need some kind of WiDi box, to recieve the signal. See my post on WiDi:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/net...estions-do-you-use-widi-wireless-display.html

Also see this Intel page for the latest info:

How to Connect a Mobile Device to TV Wirelessly – Intel® WiDi

If you want to do WiDi, keep your current 2230, or mod the BIOS, and put in any other Intel card. The only Intel card on the approved list, is the one you already have.

As far as Bluetooth, every card that has BT4.0 on the list has it. Only one doesn't have BT4.0 shown, so that one does not have it.

Are you currently having problems with the wireless card in your laptop? The only problem with the Lenovo "stock" cards they ship out, is they don't usually have the dual band capability. I really didn't need it in my Y470 with the N-1000. I just wanted it. Then I found out how hard it was to buy an approved upgraded card from Lenovo, and I let them feel my wrath over at their forum. :yes:

IMHO The real problem with some users is they don't know how to use Intel's PROSet/Wireless Software. You have to install the PROSet Administrator Toolkit, configure the settings, and then apply the settings to the computer. After applying the setting to the computer, you also have to "save" the configuration. Then open the wireless connection > properties > Enable (Configure) > and point the "Application Auto Launch" to the configuration that you just saved.


Many users try to tell you to get rid of the PROSet, without learning about what it can do for them. They think they can just change the wireless card settings in their Device Manager, and when the card doesn't perform up to their expectations, scream about it in some forum.

I use the tools within the PROSet program. When I do my weekly hardware checks, I turn my wireless Linksys E3200 router's radio on, and test my n-1000. I receive a great signal throughout my house, at 144 Mbps using the 2.4 band, with no disconnects.

IDK I'm just an old man, who actually uses the tools that came with my computer. If I don't know, what a tool does, I research it via the web, instead of declaring it useless. I hate reading some post that begins with "I just did a clean install of my OS, and now the Lenovo (fill in the blank) doesn't work!" :rolleyes2:

 

Thanks for your incredible reply. I really appreciate you taking the time. Could we PM or speak over a chat application whenever you have time? I want to set up my PROset the way you have mentioned and see if that works. Currently, I get max speeds in all my rooms except one that is further away from my router. However, my older laptop outperforms my Lenovo in the "far" away room. This concerns me. Also, I've lost connection twice today. And three days ago I lost connection every 5-10 minutes for an entire day.

The performance on my card has improved when I implemented the recommended settings in device manager and my router from Intel's website, but I'm still worried that my laptop cannot perform at further distances in comparison to my older laptop (older laptop= 40ish Mbps Lenovo = 20ish Mbps), plus the recent disconnections today. I may be a little more critical after reading all the negative reviews....so my opinion comes with a bias at this point. I honestly don't think the culprit is Lenovo. It's either Intel's N-2230 or Windows 8 incompatibility that doesn't allow this card to function properly in most cases out of the box.

I'll check out your thread on Intel WiDi. (EDIT: is the Belkin one you referenced in your thread the best adapter? I don't need Dolby digital 5.1). I want this feature as it seems really cool. So I guess I need to stay with an Intel card? Hopefully, if you can chat sometime I'll try configuring things in my PROset to fix these issues once and for all.

Edit: from my understanding I have SLI graphics. Is there an easy way to implement Intel HD graphics to use WiDi?
Edit: just lost connection for a fourth time today. Only way to reconnect is to restart the router or my computer....this is ridiculous... -_-. I'm on the 15.10 N-2230 driver and I have Intel PROset installed. Would having dual band make any sort of difference?

 

You talking about the 750M Ultrabay? One of the companies involved in manufacturing them went out of business, or so I've been told. Whenever questioned Lenovo keeps delaying the release date, so either they're vaporware or they really have been discontinued.

 

Where did you learn this?

 

Seriously I'll be ultra pissed if they don't release them :|

Were any released at all ? Are 750M ultrabays from y500 compatible with y510p ?

 

Lenovo

750M bays for the Y500 and Y510p work with each other. Just dont buy a 650M, and you will be fine.

 

Kukri told me.

 

Beyond frustrated at this point...I'm getting 5-20 Mbps in a room my older laptop gets 40-50 Mbps. Post-sales can only resend me a new laptop that's identical to this one. I'm not sure what good that would do since I'm pretty sure the issue is the wireless card? Sales can't send me a Y510P with a different wireless card either. So my only choice is to replace the card myself and void my warranty or just send the product back. Sigh.

 

does anyone know if lenovo will stock the y510p 1920x1080 resolution without an ssd again?

 

(i am assuming you mean the non-sli)

They do stock it in Canada. Also if you order by phone, you can even customize what you get with the laptop, including the wifi card

 

Only in Canada will they let you customize the wifi card? :/ meh