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    Ideapad Y510P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MJG1492, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. lettuceman44

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    Either a clevo P150sm. Most likely with a 770m, maybe I could bump it to a 8970m.

    The thing is, aesthetics, keyboard, sound are all important too. Same with size and weight.
    I think the Lenovo might be the better overall package. If I cared only about pure specs the sager would win easily.
    With the money saved I could get an ssd for the Lenovo and still have beast performance.

    I haven't made up my mind yet, so I'm still debating.
     
  2. Jobine

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    8970M will destroy 755M SLI.

    Y510p is 1.3 inch
    P150SM is 1.69 inch
    Both 6 pound approx.

    Y510p runs quieter but hotter, and Clevo is the opposite; noisier but cooler.
     
  3. lettuceman44

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    I know an 8970 is much better, but its also like $300 more for that sager. I'm also looking at the cost benefit as well.

    I have a desktop, so I don't think I need that much power. But I haven't ruled it out yet.

    Also I thought the sager was like 6.8 Ibs. For noise, I hear clevo has some fan problems where the fan will come on for no reason. I don't mind noise while gaming, but I. Need quiet laptop when not gaming. And one that isn't annoying to people around me when gaming.
     
  4. Jobine

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    Can't speak about Y510p SLI but the only thing i hear from my laptop when working on it (browsing/writing/etc) is the mechanical noise of the HDD (which i'm too cheap to replace). Notebookcheck said the Y510p SLI runs at 30db on idle, however results may vary, and a faulty fan can change that.
     
  5. lettuceman44

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    Yep, so I'm not concerned with noise on the Lenovo.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
     
  6. Jobine

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    Heat is the downside. CPU can go up to 90°C. However, 4700MQ is easily undervolted and mine outputs a more reasonable 82°C.

    Exterior temps are warm-ish hot.
     
  7. lettuceman44

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    What are really the negatives to that though? Right now I'm thinking I don't care too much.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
     
  8. Jobine

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    It runs hot? Gaming on a hot laptop is less comfortable than gaming on a cool one. But mostly, the Y510p blows lots of hot air through it's side vents. The W350ST blows air towards the rear. Thus, the Y510p's side vents can annoy mouse users, but on the bright side, they keep your coffee warm :D But like i said, it's quieter to compensate.

    Oh, and Y510p has an aluminum keyboard surface while the W350ST has a plastic one. Explains (some of the) increased surface heat.
     
  9. lettuceman44

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    Yea I don't think I'd care too much.

    I think I'm gonna go with the Lenovo, but should I wait to buy it(with the refresh and such).
     
  10. Jobine

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    I have no idea if the Y510p will be getting a refresh soon. I know for one that some models right now are shipping with 755M's instead of 750M's, however, 755M are just 750's with tiny overclocks, nothing you can't do manually to save time and money. Aside from that, i doubt the Y510p will get a refresh, because Broadwell is not coming till mid 2014, and Nvidia 8xx in Q1 2014.

    You can always call them and check for upcoming releases. Ask if a new Y series is in the works.
     
  11. lettuceman44

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    Alright, thanks for the help :)

    If I end up not liking it, I'll just return the Lenovo and get a Sager.

    Does the sli version ever go on sale like the non sli version?
     
  12. Jobine

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    If you are gonna buy the SLI version, buy it here:

    XOTIC PC | LENOVO IdeaPad Y510p (59375625)

    If you want, you can pay an extra 165$ and get a 95% gamut screen, perfect for professional graphic artists.

    And use NBR rewards:

    Custom Laptops, Gaming Notebooks, Custom Gaming Laptops | XOTIC PC
     
  13. lettuceman44

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    Thanks for the help. I'll order within a month.
     
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    Aaaargh. So I got my laptop back from depot repair. They replaced the harddisk, but I think the problem is with the graphics card. I don't know which one though. On both the original Lenovo-provided Nvidia driver, the latest Nvidia non-beta driver (320..49?), and the beta driver, everything runs and works without SLI. The moment I turn SLI configuration on however, all 3d/intensive games hard freeze on startup. I rarely even get to the actual game. They just crash with beginning animations and whatnot. The worst thing is I don't want to send it in and wait another 2 weeks, because I actually need the laptop for college. Urrrgh. I can't even contact Lenovo atm cuz their phone lines are down or something.
     
  15. Jobine

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    Take out the Ultrabay GPU and send it for repair. You can live without SLI for 2 weeks, and without SLI you will have more battery life for college.
     
  16. TheSonu

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    Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking. I only hope it is the secondary GPU that's faulty, and not the built-in one. Also, I guess I'll have to email them or something since I can't seem to call their tech support line.
     
  17. MarlinFF

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    Is there any truth to this? I managed to snag one non-SLI (59370008) for $670 after CA tax so I'm pretty stoked, until I realized that the Y510P doesn't have the Ultra bays out like the Y500 does. I asked a representative and they told me there aren't any gfx card ultra bays planned for the Y510P?

    EDIT:

    So, I talked to another rep who says it is coming.. but at $130.. Which I highly doubt considering the Y500's GT650 is $230

    ^Vishal Elleri: Thank you for contacting Lenovo Sales Chat.
    Marlin: Hello, I am just inquiring on whether the Y510P would release a video card ultrabay?
    ^Vishal Elleri: Yes, it should be available on sal in a very near future
    Marlin: Do you know the price of the item and maybe the product number?
    ^Vishal Elleri: Expected price is $129.99
    Marlin: The Y500 has GN37 for its videocard price
    Marlin: Oh, is it? The one of the Y500 is around $230 and it is a weaker card.
    Marlin: Do you know if that is correct?
    Marlin: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/itemdetails/0C22235/460/3E71FB3EB22D4A308B517832F7D2264A
    Marlin: That one is listed as 229.99 for the Y500. I would assume the Y510P variant would match the price or carry a higher price
    ^Vishal Elleri: The link that you referred is for GT650M
    Marlin: Yes, which is a lesser videocard. Wouldn't the GT750M cost more? Sorry, I'm not doubting you I'm just inquiring!
    ^Vishal Elleri: The estimated price for 750 only $129.99 it can be more but we are not sure
    ^Vishal Elleri: You will get know in the first week of November
     
  18. Jobine

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    Does it include 1080p?
     
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    nVidia driver update just popped up for me not too long ago.
     
  21. TheSonu

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    Called 'em and they said I'd have to send the whole laptop again. Darn shame. I guess I'll have to wait till winter break or something before I send it, because I really need the laptop. I could go a week without, but seeing as how the last depot repair took two weeks, I'm really hesitant. At least games work with 1 card haha.
     
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    Anyone test out the new drivers yet?
     
  23. octiceps

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    I did. They're the exact same thing as 326.80 BETA, just with WHQL certification. Don't waste your time.
     
  24. zin

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    A question about the SLI version.

    I am so close to buying the Y510p SLI version.
    But after having read that SLI can run into trouble with some games that does not support it. Some questions have been starting to form in my head.
    I play XCOM quite a lot and it would be sad if I all of a sudden can not play it due to SLIproblems.

    Is it possible to temporarily disable the second GPU and run games with only one and then activate the second one when I want to play more demanding games?

    Really want to buy a new notebook asap. But I do not want to rush things so that I end up with something I can not use. :)
     
  25. octiceps

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    Yes you can disable SLI globally or on a per-application basis in the Nvidia Control Panel.
     
  26. MarlinFF

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    If anyone wants to part out their SLI Y510P GT750 let me know! I know they are supposedly coming out at the end of the month, but I think I need it for the games I'll be playing.
     
  27. milanowitsj

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    Hello,
    Im considering buying a y510p, but I also want a SSD in my laptop.
    So I was thinking to replace the hybrid SSHD that is standard with the y510p with a SSD and move the SSHD to the ultrabay place with a HDD caddy.
    Is that possible? I have only worked with regular notebook HDD's so far.
    Also, is the performance of a HDD in the ultrabay/optical drive place the same as it is internal? (esp. concerning games)
     
  28. octiceps

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    The Y510p does not have an SSHD. It's a 1TB 5400 RPM HDD in the internal 2.5" bay and a separate 24GB SSD cache in the M.2 slot. You can certainly switch out the HDD for an SSD and throw the HDD into an Ultrabay caddy. I believe the Ultrabay is also SATA 6 Gb/s, not that it would matter if you're putting the HDD in there.
     
  29. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Actually no. Some models such as this one:

    Newegg.com - Lenovo IdeaPad Y510p (59376431) Intel Core i7 4700MQ(2.40GHz) 12GB Memory 1TB HDD 8GB Cache SSD 15.6" Notebook Windows 8

    Ship with a 1TB+8GB SSHD.
     
  30. octiceps

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    I stand corrected then.
     
  31. Jobine

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    On top of that, if you game does not support SLI, you can always assign the 2nd GPU to PhysX.
     
  32. lao3hero

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    Hi all, new to this thread as I just ordered my y510p last week and it just got shipped yesterday. And now I am 1/3 way ploughing thru the 100+ pages... :(

    Just an observation, how can this guy who apparently helped so many bros here get good deal have only 1 Rep? So I added 1 just now though I was late to the party...

    That's all, back to ploughing :)
     
  33. Jobine

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    I also recommend reading the Y410p owner's lounge, you will find some other useful info in there.

    Rep is a mix of account age, post count and given reputation.
     
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    Think they will ever fix the microstuttering problems?
     
  35. octiceps

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    What microstuttering problems are you referring to?
     
  36. daanieel21

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    Hello guys!
    I just bought this nice computer and I only have one question so far. On my computer is it very difficult to plug in the charger in the computer. I have to push a lot and it fells like I am pushing to hard for it to go all the way in. I just wonder if you have that problem as well.
    Thanks
     
  37. Kukri

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    Just push it in.
     
  38. Jobine

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    Updating/downgrading drivers usually fixes that. Also, microstutter has been reported to be observed only when FPS drops below 30.
     
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    Hi,

    I'm new to the forums. I recently purchased and received the Y510P. I love the design, feel, and power of this laptop for the price. But there is one thing I cannot live with -- HORRIBLE wifi performance. My signal either drops while game/browsing the internet, or I get dismal speeds (5-10Mbps) vs. my girlfriend's $500 3 year old HP laptop getting 30+ Mbps. Honestly, I haven't tried updating the drivers because when I go to Lenovo's website it's difficult to navigate the driver section. I'm willing to try updating the drivers but I'm not capable of opening the hood for any hardware adjustments. I hear the wireless card is horrible in this laptop. Is that true? If you visit the Lenovo forums, many Y510P users have this wifi issue: New y510p with a wifi problem - Lenovo Community

    I really want to keep this laptop because of the design and power for the price. But 5Mbps download? I feel like I'm taking a step back. Please help :/

    Specs:

    i7 4700MQ
    16GB DDR3 ram
    750M SLI
     
  40. Jobine

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    Go on intel and grab the latest drivers, version 16.1. They should fix most Wifi issues. If those dont work, mozy on back over here and i'll give you another fix. EDIT: here they are https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De...uct=Intel®+Centrino®+Wireless-N+2230&lang=eng
     
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    Thanks for the quick reply. I installed the 16.1 driver...still getting 10-14 Mbps speeds. Are there any other drivers I should install? I have plenty of other questions but want to fix this wifi issue first.

    Weird. Just tried a speedtest on my ISP instead of speedtest.net and got 30 Mbps. What should I be using to test my internet speed? My girlfriend's laptop gets 30+ Mbps fine on speedtest.net but I only get 10-14.

    edit: is the wireless card so bad the laptop is not worth having? Tech support said the card doesn't work with wireless G technology and that it only works with wireless N. Is this true?
     
  42. Jobine

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    Hmmm. Try using the 14.8 drivers. To do so, first Uninstall Intel PROset. Then open device manager, find your card, go to Properties, then Driver, then Uninstall the driver. Then reboot twice, and you should be using the 14.8 drivers. Report your findings.
     
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    I'm in device manager. I went to network adapters and I see Intel Centrino (R) Wireless N - 2230. Is this what you want me to uninstall? btw, when I installed the 16.1 driver I didn't reboot my pc twice. Was that an issue?

    Edit: my driver says it's version 14.8.8.75
     
  44. Justin1017

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    Hey Lenovo owners, this laptop is one that I've been highly considering lately. I came into this thread to ask just a few questions.

    When this laptop heats up, where do the fans disperse the heat? A comment some pages back mentioned that it shoots hot air out of the sides, which isn't too bad. Do the palm rests, keyboard, or touch pad heat up while gaming, though? Because that would get very annoying IMO.

    How complicated is it to put in a new wireless network card, say the Intel 7260?

    I've read that you can turn off the 750m's and let the laptop use just the Intel GPU, which saves battery life. How long does the battery last in this mode while browsing and using MS office? I doubt it's related, but someone mentioned that using ThrottleStop essentially "cripples" the CPU, therefore hurting it. Does turning the 750m's off hurt them similarly?
    On the topic of battery life, what would offer a higher battery life: Using one 750m with Optimus or using the basic Intel GPU?
     
  45. jghost23

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    I can answer your basic question(s). The heat comes out the sides. I don't experience heat from the mousepad or keyboard though.. From my understanding Lenovo whitelisted in the BIOS particular wireless cards so it's difficult to replace the N-2230. It's been reported that battery life on optimus gives roughly 4-5 hours. I haven't tried doing this yet as I don't know how to implement optimus.
     
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    WOW. Just got 30 Mbps TWICE on speedtest.net after following your steps.....amazing. What was the issue? Before I uninstalled my device it said it was 14.8.8.75 and now I check and it's 14.8.8.75. What changed?

    Edit: issue. I notice my connection is on wireless G now, which it looks like this network card doesn't really support......I stepped into another room, maybe 5-10 feet away from where I was before, and my signal nearly dropped off. Sigh.
     
  47. Justin1017

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    Really? So there's no problems with the heat on this laptop, huh. For the wireless card, what do you mean by difficult? Like I'll have difficulty finding a properly fitting card or I'll have difficulty installing one? 4-5 hours is on par with another one of the laptops I'm considering.
     
  48. jghost23

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    When I game it gets warmish-hot. I'm not sure about the wireless card. You may have difficulty installing and fitting. I'm sure someone will answer soon.
     
  49. Justin1017

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    Okay, thanks for the answers :)
     
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    I'm kinda confused. I just read that wireless N is a newer technology than wireless G, yet I get faster speeds (when I'm physically closer) on wireless G but as soon as I step 20 feet away, my signal strength drops dramatically. When I had intel PRO 16.1 installed, my connection type was wireless N, the new technology. Yet, my speeds were slow (5-15 Mbps) on speedtest.net compared with 30 Mbps on wireless G (while I was 10 feet away from the router). This is confusing -_- why would Lenovo put a cheap wireless card in such a beautiful machine? Meh.

    edit: I noticed with the 16.1 Intel Pro installed my N-2230 driver changes to 15.10.3.2. Not sure if this info helps at all.
     
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