Ideapad Y510P

Question, why does everyone seem to want to switch out all these SSDs for other ones? What's wrong with the included one?

 

They are looking for higher capacity since the system can only support a single HDD they hope to install the boot os on a smaller ssd using that slot and keeping the HDD for data.

Cheers,

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Not to mention the small SSD can only be used for caching, so you won't get the benefits of a real, high-capacity SSD where you can install the OS and whatever applications and games you choose.

 

Hi guys,

Can anyone who has already done it help me with running 3DMark 11 on the Y510p as it is not working on mine?
Thanks.

David

 

Not received any response from anyone but finally I find the answer by myself. It was just that I didn't updated the SystemInfo. Now 3DMark 11 is working!

 

LOL you thought his name was Tapatalk.

Yes that Windows 8 disc will work fine. It will automatically pull the activation key embedded in the BIOS when you install instead of asking you to input one.

 

What was your score?

 

LOL... I apologize 'PANZER06'... honest mistake... but at the same time... pretty funny

Thanks for your reply octiceps, that puts my mind at ease knowing it is that simple. I'm guessing I can just delete the operating partitions off the HDD after loading windows 8 onto the SSD? Any idea what part of the HDD contains the drivers? I will want to be sure to keep those for the time being.

Thanks again!!!!

 

Technically, it is a normal hard drive in that it can be wiped and used as a 24GB SSD where you can install programs to or store data.

As it ships from Lenovo it is setup as a cache drive for the slow 1TB HDD included with the system.

Cheers,

I found it easier to clone my 1TB drive that came with the system to my new 500GB SSD drive using Acronis 2013 w/Plus Pak. Somewhat expensive but maintained all the partitions and drivers from the factory load, including the recovery partition.

Cheers,

 

Yeah after installing Windows 8 on the SSD I would just go into DiskPart, use the clean command to wipe the HDD, create a primary partition, and format as NTFS. That way you have a completely fresh drive to use in an external enclosure.

There is a Lenovo D: partition on the HDD that contains the drivers. You can just copy and install those to the SSD before wiping the HDD, although I'd recommend going online to find to find the latest ones. But make sure you use the included webcam and touchpad drivers. The latest ones found on the Synaptics website don't work properly with the laptop. For everything else you can use the latest ones from the manufacturers' websites.

Oh right, I'd forgotten about that. 24GB is too small for a Windows installation but you could definitely use it for storage and applications after formatting it.

 

Hard to believe when y500 price if from 750$ to 960$ on the outlet

 

It happens. I saw a u310 touch for $225 one time. Sometimes there are sales on top of low prices that make the deals incredible. You have to be persistent and patient to get them though. A rep once told me that the sales refresh on Thursdays and the outlet stock usually gets refreshed on Wednesdays

 

SWITCHABLE GRAPHICS and Win7 64bit on y410p and y510p

My y410p hasn't arrived yet, but someone online lenovo y410p/510p downgrade windows 7, drivers ,switch graphics , advice , rant , must watch!!! - YouTube says that you can in fact have SWITCHABLE GRAPHICS on this notebook and can fully successfully downgrade to Win7 64bit. Can someone with their notebook in hand test and confirm this? y410p and y510p are the same drivers

Thanks

 

Anyone managed how to get nvidia 320.18 driver to work on windows 8 with 750m SLI config?

It says "unsupported device" everytime im trying to install.


Also got an issue, my laptop is plugged-in and im getting: Connected, Not charging.
Any fix?

 

Hey could you share on who to talk to to get this deal? I am new to the forums and I can't even find the PM button so I don't know how to talk to ya privately.

 

Click on their username and click Private Message

 

You also need at least 5 posts. Also I think the deal ended a week ago but you can still get a small discount (around $50 i think) with a free mouse and laptop case using the B&N golden membership/college student deal. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Hello Albake21,

I am considering buying Lenovo Y510p with GT750m SLI, but I read an article about MicroStuttering of the SLIs while playing games like WoW etc. Could you please let me know if you experience such an issues. Thank you!

 

I play Diablo, Starcraft and Company of Heroes and have not noticed anything like that but I've been told that some people are more sensitive to it than others. Works just as well or better than my old Alienware which had a single ATI 6990 but quieter and lighter!

Cheers,

 

Played Battlefield3 on ultra = perfect, no shutttering
Guild Wars 2 on high = perfect, small shuttering (but probably its game laggs)


So noone could install latest nvidia drivers instead of old 311.41?

 

A few people claimed the Y400 drivers worked but got really quiet when asked whether they had the SLI version of the Y510. So no, I don't think anyone has that working yet.

Cheers,

 

Has anyone reached 4.5-5 hours of battery life yet using the Intel hd4600 card? (Please state whether sli or non-sli)

 

Why is the battery life so low if it's running on Haswell? Do the GPUs not shut down when they are not being used?

 

Wondering if I should grab a Y500 SLI for $979, or wait for the y510 SLI to hit Canada?

 

SLI versions have no option to run on Intel.

I personally don't care since I only own this system to game. Anyone who buys the SLI version should be aware of the limitations as they pertain to battery life.

I suppose you could take the second card out of the Ultrabay to get better battery life.

Cheers,

 

Depends if all the whining over the CPU change for the Y510 SLI version (Intel 4702QM vs 4700QM) is important to you. 2.2 vs 2.4 and the 4702 uses less power because along with a lower clock it uses less watts.

In real world service I doubt there's much difference.

 

If it's the 750m version, that's a great price and a great system. If it's the 650m version, I wouldn't. Either way, lack off mSata support in the y510p ruins it imo

 

Yes it's 750m's.

You're saying the lack of mSATA in the y510 makes the 500 a good choice?

I have been trying to find performance comparisons between the two. I believe the Haswell should run about 5-10% faster?

 

The lack of mSATA in the Y510p is a deal breaker for those who want a high-capacity SSD without taking away the mass internal storage offered by the 1TB HDD. The slot in the Y510p only accepts 42mm M.2 drives, which are currently limited to 64GB, possibly 128GB, while mSATA SSD's have gotten as large as half-a-terabyte.

 

That's unfortunate. I'm not sure what capacity SSD I would add but likely a 256GB would be the option down the line. I still feel hesitant to jump on "last year's" technology, even at this level of savings.

 

By "last year's technology" are you referring to Ivy Bridge vs. Haswell? It's such a small performance difference I honestly wouldn't worry about it. The inability to install a higher capacity SSD while retaining the HDD is more concerning to me. Haswell is about 10% faster clock-for-clock than Ivy Bridge and since 4700MQ has the exact same clock speeds as 3630QM that's the performance improvement you're looking at. If you get the Y510p SLI model you're actually getting a sidegrade or slight downgrade because it comes with the lower-voltage, lower-clock 4702MQ.

 

It may be last year's cpu but it contains this year's graphics cards. The performance bump in copy speed is minor and all the power savings benefits of Haswell are non existent in a SLI model

 

Thanks for the info. Definitely will go for the y500 if I decide on the Lenovo (currently tossing up y500 vs MSI GT60).

 

Okay so let me try and get things straight.

The y500 and y510p both have SLI models with two 750m cards (One in the ultrabay)
BUT (correct me if not true)

-The y500 has a slightly older processor but at a slightly higher clock
-The y510p has a larger SSD (Is 24gb not enough to install an OS? Or are people just wanting to install a larger capacity one to fit more on?)
-You cannot replace the SSD in the Y510p (Is this the case? Can you on the Y500?)

Other than that they seem very similar to me. Same screen and everything? I've also seen a lot about whether the laptop automatically switches to integrated graphics when not doing demanding tasks. Is this true for both the Y500 and Y510p? Are the trackpad issues still present for both laptops?

Just a bunch of questions I have as I am still trying to make the decision on a laptop for video editing and gaming.

 

Yes there is a Y500 with 750 SLI
The SSD in the Y510 is replaceable but there aren't any vendors selling any in this new form factor.
The Y500 display is glossy and the Y510 anti-glare.

SLI models don't switch to integrated on battery, they down-clock to really slow to conserve battery.

I don't use the trackpad so I have no idea.

Neither system comes with a WiFi card that supports 5Ghz

Cheers,

 

24GB is not enough to install Windows 8. I did a clean install and Windows used up somewhere between 25-30GB after updates.

 

Now I am wondering if the interface for the HDD and DVD+- is Sata and if so, if one is Sata3.

I think a good solution would be to use a Sata3 (6gb) connection for a SSD, move the HDD to a caddy enclosure in the DVD Bay, and move the DVD to an external caddy for use when need be.

Sounds like a reasonably cheap fix to really speed things up and still maintain everything the unit has to offer.

 

Hmmm. Thanks for clarifying.

Which is typically better; Anti-glare or glossy? I'm assuming anti-glare?

And I'm not from the laptop world, I've always used an Ethernet cable. What is the positive side of having a card that supports 5Ghz?

 

For movies and games many people like how colors pop with glossy screens. Of course the trade off is if you sit with your back to a window or need to use it outside. Glossy is a real challenge then. In looking at the Lenovo website it says all the Y510's are glossy now. I got mine from newegg at the end of May and it's anti-glare.

5Ghz is generally just about flexibility in that you can join a system that exclusively support 5Ghz if your card supports it. In my home a 5Ghz SSID is for my secure internal systems. A 2.4Ghz SSID is for guests and they can't see any servers but can access the internet. So it goes with some companies as well.

There's also real technical reasons to use 5GHz but for most of us it just about being able to get on the net or access network resources over various wireless networks.

Cheers,

 

When are the "H" labelled processors going to start popping up in products? That's really what I want, the Iris graphics and the all day battery life. Would avoid a GPU altogether if I could.

 

By the time Iris pro comes out, GPUs will outperform it.

And an Iris acutally has lower gaming performance than a 650m. According to Anandtech, some guy got 47FPS from the 650m, and 22FPS from the Iris Pro on Battlefield 3. This probably means the Iris pro is a compute GPU, but if you are doing compute tasks, get a Quadro, it will poop on the iris.

IGP's are just plain bad outside of battery life, or for non-gpu dependant tasks like audio editing, some programming and productivity. On top of that they steal some ram + 20% of your CPU (i have a sandy i3 and its GPU takes away CPU performance).

Also, the 750m is slightly (10-15%) better than the 650m.

 

Well guys, this is probably old news, but I did get the integrated GPU to work on my Y510p. I had the dual graphics model, so what I did first was disable the SLI mode in the Nvidia control panel. After that, I shut down the computer, then took out the 750m card from the ultrabay, the restarted the system. When you do that it will then let you install the driver for the Intel 4600. So basically what you do is after you have pulled the SLI card out, start the computer back up, go to "Computer" and pick the Lenovo Drive, pick drivers, then VGA, then install the driver for the Intel 4600. After you do that, you can go into the Nvidia control panel and select whether you want the global setting to be for the 4600 or the GT750m. I have not been able to figure out how to get this to work while the 2nd 750m is in the ultrabay though. It may be able to do Optimus, but I have not attempted to try and install a driver with that feature yet, though I'm sure that you have to have the SLI card out. Does anyone know how to make it let you do this while the card is still in?? On another note, when I hold my mouse over the battery running on the HD4600 I am happy to see the battery life estimation over 6hrs lol....I have been getting 3 hours or less while running the 750m and that is when it is just idle....

 

six hours!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Suddenly, i dont feel bad for buying the single gpu y410p...

 

Thanks for the info Kenstang,
I'll try to follow your steps to hopefully get mine working as well. Would be awesome if eventually we can figure out how to do it without taking out the SLI card.
DId you actually get anywhere close to 6 hours on batttery? Those estimations are deceiving sometimes

 

I have been getting around 5 hours. One thing that I know we could do is get the dvd drive, and basically when you are not gaming have the optical drive in, and select the 4600HD. Then when you are gaming you just pop it in. It would be so nice though if they would just somehow enable it to let you select what you want when you want it.

 

I actually think the y410p is an excellent choice. I have had some time with all of them (y400-y500-y510p). I initially got rid of the y400 because I couldn't deal with the 1366x768 resolution. So I got the y500. Major trackpad issues. On the y400 actually though the trackpad feels good and it doesn't feel loose or wobbly like on the y500. I like that they put the 1600x900 screen in the y410p now. It actually makes it almost the perfect laptop to do school work and some gaming. Especially since you can infact make the iGPU the active one.

 

I just tested the battery life and it lasted me about 2:55 hrs before shutting down on me when the battery hit 6%. This was with watching only Youtube videos, some netflix, and some browsing. Brightness was about 60%. Pretty disappointing considering Lenovo advertises 5 hrs.

 

Please never report the Windows battery estimation. It is always wrong and VERY inaccurate.

SpecialSymbols, try doing what Ken did and use the integrated HD for your next battery run. Should be considerably more battery. If you truly get around 5 hours battery, I might consider the y510p... It is lighter than the GT60 and around the same performance FPS-wise (aside from SLI microstutter).

 

The estimator at one point even said 7 hrs, although I knew there was no way that would happen. Running it on hd4600 been giving me 5 hrs or a little less. Not the greatest but certainly better than the 2-3 hour range I was getting on the dedicated gpu.

 

Clean the bloatware + strip down the OS + Minimum brightness @ idle and you could hit 7 hours.