Ideapad Y510P

it is doing zoom in and zoom out from the page

 

Just wondering, how heavy is too heavy for a laptop to be carried on daily basis?

 

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It says here that 16gb isnt the max for 4702mq, 32gb is.

 

Is it safe to re-install windows at this point? Where should I get all software for cache-drive, etc.?

thanks


and can this notebook be used without battery when plugged in? Or better to leave battery inside?

 

Re-installing windows? do you mean downgrade it to win7 or u looking at changin hard drives? there is minimal driver support so far on their website. so I would wait.

You could burn your cpu if you accidentally pull the power supply without battery, at least i tried with my old acer laptop lol, a power cut and motherboard burnt

 

Yes, planning to change to Seagate SSHD Hybrid 750gb 7200rpm and re-install Windows 8

 

and it says that 32gb is the max for 3630qm too...i dont think it is'nt enough to support..just saying :|

 

I used Acronis 2013 and cloned the slow Samsung 1TB drive to a Samsung 500GB SSD. Once it was up I just deleted the proprietary cache volume on the separate 24GB SSD. It's my E: drive. You'll need to clone the drive or figure out some other way to get all those EFI boot partitions and the drive partition over to your new drive. Once the drive is cloned I suppose you could do a fresh install to the partition containing the Windows 8 install.

Cheers,

 

Hey, thats only for the NP8250 right? not for the NP8230? And I was wondering, that "GPU upgrade feature" works only with current gen/year GPUs (being GTX 780M the max option) or can be upgraded to next year (years?) GPUs? Where I can buy those GPU parts? for example the GTX 780M at this moment? (link plz)

Also is the NP8230 on Xoticpc the cheapest laptop with GTX 770M?

Thanks a lot to anyone who can answer me those, im really getting interested on this Sager and other non mainstream brand machines

 

I'm not sure but I would advise caution when adding a hybrid drive to a laptop with a built in cache drive. I'm not sure it would be faster or if it would still even be compatible with the current cache drive. Also keep in mind that the 7200rpm drive might generate more heat and consume more power - only way to tell for sure is to look at spec sheets and reviews.

 

Call or chat with Xoticpc. They have the GPUs for sale and can let you know which laptops are able to be upgraded. I doubt it will accommodate next year's GPU, as Nvidia will be using the Maxwell architecture as opposed to Kepler

 

Didn't know they had Live Chat, thanks, will contact them right away.

 

Is Sager a trusted brand? I don't know if I want to switch from the y510p or the y500 to a NP8250 because I've never really heard anything about sager.

 

I've been following them for 3 years. Mostly positive reviews. Same for Msi but most will say sager is better build quality. Just ask xtropic reps. Most well have hands on experience and can tell you what is better

 

You're right, i was inside of a program that can not be resized so i guess that's why it worked. Anyway, place two finger slightly separate on touchpade and move them in unison up or down for vertical navigation, left or right for horizontal. Worked for me.

You can find more gestures here:
Synaptics Gesture Suite

 

I have the impresion that MSI is more expensive than Sager too on similar builds. For example GTX 770M laptops goes for like $1100-$1300 on Sager but for $1300-$1500 on MSI, as far as I know...

BTW, what can you guys say about the HD RADEON 7970M GPU? I understand that its better than the GTX 770M and even cheaper. Isn't it a good option then? A laptop with that GPU.

 

He would most likely format the built-in 24GB SSD (assuming his model comes with one) and just have an extra space with some fast storage.

Cheers,

 

i decided to take my business and go with MSI. purchased from Xoticpc. i got the barebones model because i have windows 8 on a disc and usb. barebones GT60, 12 gb ram, gtx 780m and a real 4700 i7.

 

If given the choice, I would always buy ATI because of the price break. Most of my previous laptops had Nvidia because there was no choice though. I like Nvidia as well, but my desktops have always been ATI. They both play certain games better than the other. Nvidia updates their drivers faster but ATI has gotten a lot better over the past couple years. I'd look into thermals before buying that card though. It's tough making a decision like that without having at least one review out there. For all you know, that card could be blazing hot.

Also pay particular attention to the CPU. Usually those cards only get bundled with AMD CPUs on laptops. There are exceptions of course, but they are all owned by the same company so they are usually paired.

 

I didn't know choosing a laptop would be so hard...

 

I was looking at that too. How is the warranty for the MSI barebone?

 

only 1 year and no accidental.

 

So what's the verdict on enabling intel GPU when taking out the ultrabay video card? I've read that people were able to instal HD4600 drivers, but are they able to use intel vcard and does it extend battery life?

 

Any word on the M.2 SSDs?

 

i hate when people have the machines and dont wanna answer common questions
i wanna know too

 

Well after observating this forum for the last days while I received my Y510p, I can tell you that mine until now works perfectly. I just got it today, so I don't know what I can confirm with you guys, but if you need me to do any test I'll be happy to do them.
Btw anyone knows if I can buy a bluray drive for the ultrabay?

 

Some of us haven't figured out how to remove the ultra-bay card to even attempt such a thing.

Cheers,

 

They will arrive some time this year, but the issue is that NGFF SSD Lenovo uses for their laptops is absolutely smallest size designed primarily for caching. Basically, SSDs designed for such a size is not designed to be fully featured SSD. I read that the maximum capacity for such a size is 128 gb.

 

Not to mention the whole concept of PCI-E SSD's is like "meh" because the real performance bottleneck in modern consumer SSD's is not in the bus but in the NAND chips and controller complexity. Sure, NGFF gives us faster sequential reads and writes but it doesn't do much in the way of random reads and writes, which are where the real-world performance benefits come from.

 

Well after observating this forum for the last days while I received my Y510p, I can tell you that mine until now works perfectly. I just got it today, so I don't know what I can confirm with you guys, but if you need me to do any test I'll be happy to do them.
Btw anyone knows if I can buy a bluray drive for the ultrabay?

 

@johneu, where did you install your drivers from btw? Also, did you download the intel hd 4600 to conserve batter?

 

Where did you read this? I'm trying to find some SOLID proof that there will be a 128GB 42mm NGFF drive. It is important to me because it will help me decide whether to keep my laptop or not.

 

That's what's troubling: 42mm is the smallest M.2 form factor and from the looks of it capacities will be even smaller than what is currently available for mSATA (up to ~500GB depending on NAND type, e.g. Crucial M500). From the diagrams I've seen the PCB surface area is smaller than mSATA, and unless NAND chips shrink more then it looks like 42mm M.2 SSD's are really only intended to be used as cache drives.

Here's an example of a typical 42mm M.2 drive:



As you can see, capacity only goes up to 64GB. The quoted performance is pretty subpar too so at least for the form factor in the Y510p it looks like we're actually taking a step backward compared to mSATA.

 

I looked into it and found a distributor that was selling a SanDisk 128gb 42mm m.2 drive. I never bought it because I cancelled my laptop order. The cost was $140 or something and it was backordered for a month. There used to be information here but it appears they removed the m.2 info.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/ssd/sata/u110/

You can see the old specs on this page
http://www.ssdltd.com.au/Products/S...Solid_State_Drives/SanDisk_U110_SSD/index.php

Who knows when it will really come out(or if it does at all)

 

Okay so I got my y510p yesterday, decided to deal with the 4702. New problem encountered, I upgraded the hdd to a crucial m4 512 gb, but now it doesn't pick up the sli, using "microsoft basic display adapter" and rating my graphics card at 4.3, which I know is bull. How do I fix this?

 

did you do that while laptop plugged in?

 

Sounds like you didn't install the Nvidia graphics driver when you swapped the hard drive.

 

Did you clone the original HD to your new SSD? If you did it should have everything you need. If not, you will need to install the nvidia drivers located on the Lenovo partition of your original HDD.

Cheers,

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See Xentar712's post few posts below yours. There is 42mn 128gb NGFF SSD. Also take a look at octiceps's reply below as well. The performance is just only acceptable. Lenovo should have stuck with msata or full SSD format of NGFF.

I cancelled my Y510p order because of this. For my purposes, I cannot live with just a single drive. I need at least 3 logical drives.

 

Hi,

I placed my order for the Y510P this past week and I am now second guessing my decision on buying this unit.

I was under the impression that I could install my Corsair Neutron 256gb SSD ( for operating system etc.) in place of the 24gb msata that is included with the computer, and still use the included 1T 5400rpm hdd as a storage drive. This is basically what I would be happy with.

Now, after reading through this thread I am thinking that this will not be possible because of the msata connection.

Does anyone know if I could remove the 24gb msata and still be able to configure the system to use my Neutron GTX 256gb SSD and still use the 1T HDD as a storage drive?

Thanks!

 

Honestly I think I can deal with it being only 128gb and not as fast as mSATA. However, this page doesnt say that the m.2 drives will be 128gb. It says that between the SATA, mSATA, and m.2 drives the capacities will be up to 128gb. It never says those capacities are just for the m.2.

The size of nandchips and the controller on the drive lead me to believe there is only room for ONE nand chip....therefore there would have to be a 128gb nand chip in existence. Looking at the number of chips vs capacity of SATA and mSATA boards (2 chips for 128gb, 4 for 256gb) it looks like the largest chip is 64gb.....

 

There will be 128gb. I am positive. My issue was its immediate availability which was nada. And that its performance.

As you stated, there is space for just one chip or maybe two if they use both sides. Performance of a SDD drive is determined by its number of channels (number of chips) and quality of chips. 2 chips max on 42mn NGFF: That's not good news.

 

Hi guys,

I'm just a new member of notebookreview. So I will just present myself briefly: my name is David, I'm French and I just arrived in the United States a few weeks ago to work as a research fellow!
I just bought a Lenovo Y510p, that I received with the Intel i7-4702MQ. So far no issues with the laptop which I find very nice and performant. But I wanted to make a 3DMark 11 test to see if I could achieve a 5000+ score, the problem is that the program won't lauch after install, it keeps saying me over and over that 3DMark 11 GUI stopped working. I made the .NET framework updates and it is still not working. I also tried to run the 32 bit version of it but no way.
So can anyone provide me with some help on that issue, as some other members here were able to run it on their laptops?

Thank you in advance.

David

 

How did you end up getting that and so cheap?

 

Not to mention no controller improvements, so we're basically looking at no performance improvements over mSATA but reduced capacities. If I didn't have my Y500 and were in the market for a Y510p this would be a deal breaker for me because part of my long term plan is to upgrade to a large (at least 240GB) SSD while keeping the 1TB HDD intact for mass storage. Not possible if 42mm M.2 drives are restricted to such low capacities.

 

It was a refurbished unit from the Lenovo outlet. Refurbs are discounted compared to new units but that is still an insane price, about half of what a comparable new model costs.

 

So you just kept visiting the outlet website every day till the price just appeared. I'm asking because I love my y510p I got but it was 1100 bucks and now that lenovo extended my return to 60 days I was thinking of just visiting the outlet webpage every day and see if I can get the same deal you got because I'm not a hardcore gamer and the 650m sli should hold me over for about 2 years. Then I could just sell it and not take a huge hit like I would with trying to sell the y510p sli in about 3-4 years

 

There's no mSata port so if your 256gb drive is mSata you cannot put it in the system. If you want the Lenovo, sell the 256 mSata and buy 500gb 2.5" ssd and put the 1tb drive in an external usb3 enclosure. Otherwise you'll need to move to a brand/ system the supports mSata and or 2x 2.5" drive bays.

Cheers,


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That was liteon6x's order, not mine. I bought my Y500 brand new.

 

Thanks for your reply Tapatalk!

The Corsair Neutron GTX 256gb is a 2.5" SSD, so I will be fine after all if I remove the HDD to an external enclosure.

Being that I have a windows 8 64bit OEM disk here (used on another system I own) can I use that to load win8 on the SSD? I read somewhere that the pre-loaded operating system's key is imbedded into the bios so there is no need to input a product key when installing. Can I simply load this onto my ssd and not input a product key when asked to and it would work?

Thanks again for the clarification!!!