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    Ideapad Y510P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MJG1492, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. maorcg

    maorcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm with lenovo right now on the phone about the memory update sone

    update:

    i cant get cash back because i got 1 from the possessor( they told me i will get 75$ and i got only 60$ back)
    they cant send the right memory
    only option is to cancel and rebook with custom memory ask
     
  2. maorcg

    maorcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    you need to have ddr3l and you have ddr3 wort 100$ less
     
  3. ahmed2112

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    but how much will it affect the performance ??
     
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    Is the price difference that significant? Where is your source?
     
  5. maorcg

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  6. y500_2013

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    Perhaps there is a ~$15-$20 difference per 8gb, but DDR3L will prolong the lifespan fo the machine for sure. In any case, Lenovo is really unethical.
     
  7. arcticreaver

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    from what i've read the dd3l operates at a lower voltage in theory, it should process faster. say it operates at 1.25v versus 1.75v, it takes less time from it to go 0 to 1.25 versus 0 to 1.75.

    so again, i think only marginal performance difference. benchmarks might pick it up, but i don't know if you can tell the difference while playing games.

    nevertheless, its the principle that counts, and lenovo is screwing with people.

    i might not ask for money back, i want to see if they can provide me with software like office or something. because at this point, seeing the responses that people have been getting, lenovo doesn't like to give you cash back.
     
  8. brushpicks11

    brushpicks11 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you going to call the sales rep that gave you the good deal because I left him a message but don't know if that's the right person to call. Thanks
     
  9. y500_2013

    y500_2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    We need to push Lenovo harder. They cannot just lie to customers, cheat them, and walk away easily.
     
  10. arcticreaver

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    yup. he's been good to me so far. lets see what he can do for me because of this royal F-UP
     
  11. maorcg

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    im with supper visor right now tray to fix the problem
     
  12. maorcg

    maorcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    update i got 100$ accessories
     
  13. y500_2013

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    No cash back? Not worth it.
     
  14. maorcg

    maorcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    no cash back because i got cash back on the processor
     
  15. y500_2013

    y500_2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    How much did you get back for the processor?
     
  16. maorcg

    maorcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    75$ if you didnt get any you can get more for both problem
     
  17. myrcgarage

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    My son got his directly from Lenovo last Thurs 6/13 and it has 4700 in it.
     
  18. ahmed2112

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    can u confirm here tomorrow what is the type of the ram ??
     
  19. arcticreaver

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    yeah no problem.

    been thinking about how i will proceed with lenovo. maybe i should go to BBB (better business bureau) and report them. seems for legit and will probably receive a very prompt response from lenovo. the sales rep - it's not his fault that lenovo dropped a huge deuce on the y510p and not quite sure if he will even do me better other than 70 bucks + accessories.
     
  20. fergucen

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    SK hynix
    the hyundai ram is actually running at 1.28v while I am typing, so it is dd3l standard. However, the performance of this ram is quite low.
    ram.jpg
     
  21. y500_2013

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    I think we should do something rather than wasting our time with the useless reps. Also I came across this post on Lenovo community forum Y510P

    Maybe we should protest there as well.
     
  22. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    Which profile is active? CAS 10 or 11?
     
  23. arcticreaver

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    i've just posted in that thread. under the name gshock1
     
  24. maorcg

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    i just got email from lenovo about the ram
    "After further investigation of your order, I have determined you will receive the correct memory, DDR3L. The screen shot you sent me is not an accurate display of your configuration; it identifies what may be a suitable replacement part. However, once you view the screen shot it specifies that those parts aren’t serviceable for your machine. Therefore, I am unable to proceed with the no-charge order. I apologize for the incorrect information previously given to you"

    they say im goin to get ddr3l
    and not ddr3 i will update when i will get my laptop today
     
  25. olvrick

    olvrick Notebook Enthusiast

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    Cant register on Lenovos forums, they just dont sent confirmation email to my GMAIL account.

    Also I had a chat with lenovo support, sorry for my bad english:


     
  26. fergucen

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    yes the hyundai is ddr3l even though it does not have the "l" in its name
     
  27. maorcg

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    cpu-z say i have ddr3
     
  28. olvrick

    olvrick Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ive published chat log with sales rep. Noone could answer me how i get Y500 configuration instead of Y510p (
    I guess its better to contact law firm, cause Lenovo is still selling "4700QM with DDR3L"
     
  29. privatejoker

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    so running counter strike GO my gpu temp is around 60 playing, bf3 on ultra settings my gpu temp is around 72 Celsius . it idles at 47 according to gpu-z
     
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    Please can someone enlight me about this. This machine with i7 Haswell, dual GT750M and 16 GB RAM should be enough to compete with PS4 and Xbox One games? I will be able to run equal (or higher/lower?) than those? (lets say for example Battlefield 4).

    I really need to know this to decide what to buy. Thanks a lot.
     
  32. eriscentro

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    Hey guys! Two things, the first is that I see exactly what people mean about the trackpad on this machine, it really is terrible. Second, here's a script that when run as admin, will tell you info about the SSD and expresscache
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1185896/ssdcheck.bat
     
  33. androidman1990

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    Which gfx card setup would be better for bf3, bf4, crysis 3, and skyrim? The 750m sli (y510p) or the 770m (MSI gt60 2oc)? Based on notebook check the 770m performs worse in bf3 and crysis 3 according to y510p owners in this thread however someone stated that the 770m is superior in gaming. Is the 750m sli better?
     
  34. or3nzo

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    Hey Guys, where can I find the Y510p drivers? My Wi-Fi is acting funny and I hope updating/reinstalling drivers will fix it.
     
  35. anthli1895

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    Do you have the additional 24GB SSD? All the drivers are located in there.
     
  36. Derek712

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    I don't that's the ssd. It's just in another partition on the main drive. You shouldn't be able to see the ssd since its set up as a cache drive
     
  37. anthli1895

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    You're right, my mistake. I just looked into it more and found out it's another partition. But the drivers should be located there.
     
  38. privatejoker

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    I got a driver off intel website and it fixed the problem for me.
     
  39. n1smo

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    My 2 cents in this whole 4700/4702 debacle is this: When the Y500 first came out, the 3632 model actually cost more than the 3630. The 3632 is like the 4702, the lower voltage version. So maybe in the eyes of Lenovo, they are doing the buyers a favor. It is not an excuse for Lenovo at all and they've been known to false advertise like you would not believe. Like back in the day when I bought the Y500, they advertised it was WiDi capable. Their marketing department and engineering department are not talking to each other and both department suck as bad as their customer support department. The entire company is a big sham, a sick joke, and sooner or later people will noticed and in my case, they can only fool me once.

    My theory on why they switched to the 4702 is because of the heat issues. Instead of updating the cooling system, they took the easy way out and stuck a lower voltage cpu in. The 750m running at 1.1v throws way too much heat out for the Y500's cooling system. Heck, the Y500 with 650m running at 1.025v is already running hot in Furmark. It was fine in the winter months, but now that we are in the summer, I'm having issues with temps.

    I enjoy my Y500, I like to speak out about the flaws and there are many but the bottom line is that it is damn good at playing games. It just required way too much work on the end user's part to make it an usable machine. I spent a good part of 2 months messing with the touchpad issue and then discovered that my keyboard also was jacked up. But after 6 months of ownership, I can finally relax and enjoy this machine. As long as you know what you are getting into and have the time and patience, this is a good machine. Would I recommend this thing to anyone else? Maybe to my enemies.
     
  40. notsureifserious

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    if anyone plays cs:go, can you tell me what fps you guys are getting on all low graphics? at 1080p please:thumbsup:
     
  41. gameover123

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    Wot about the change of ram, from ddr3L to ddr3
     
  42. BlazeHN

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    Guys please... anyone? (-_-) I just want some basic advice about if this machine will last good on next years games? Thanks.
     
  43. Derek712

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    There's no way anyone can answer that lol. It "should", considering Nvidia won't update their line of cards until next year. 750 SLI is pretty strong. A single card is average and might struggle with next year's games. There's no way to know for sure though and it really depends on what framerates you are ok with.
     
  44. BlazeHN

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    Ok thanks, your are right on that. However I heard PS4 have a Radeon 7870 equivalent. So maybe that can be compared already?

    Dual GT750M vs Radeon 7870?

    Are those similar on perfomance? Or wich one is superior?
     
  45. TheSonu

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    Hey, just wanted some help before my laptop comes in tomorrow.

    Basically, is it worth it to use the 24gb SSD to install Windows 8 on, instead of leaving it as a caching drive? Even if it is, is that enough space to cover the OS and updates and whatnot? Just want a general idea. Also, if it is more worthwhile to install the OS onto that ssd, how can I do that? Does the laptop come with an installation disk, or do I have to manually port it or something? Thanks for your help guys!
     
  46. octiceps

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    24GB is not enough to fit Windows 8 on, even before Windows Updates and Service Packs, which only make the installation bigger. The only thing you can do is use it as a cache (my recommendation if you decide to keep it) or format it in NTFS and use it as a secondary drive for quick-access files and applications.
     
  47. MJG1492

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    Leave as a cache drive. The hard drive is only 5400 rpm. No installation disk no manufacturer includes those anymore.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
     
  48. gameover123

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    Fine, my fault,
    SK hynix

    Hynix 2x 8GB = 16GB KIT DDR3L RAM 1600 Mhz PC3-12800 SO-DIMM [HMT41GS6AFR8A-PB] - Mac Speichershop

    Hyn HMT41GS6AFR8A-PB DDR3 1600 8GB <-------- shipment status,

    1 thing less to worry about.
    The DDR3 on the new patch is a DDR3L, but still, its not hard to put the word L on the shipment is it?
    Like really.... 1 press of a key to change.....

    Edit: If i aint so into this, how the hack would i know......
    Right, so there is One thing only, to complain about, screw the wrong 720m graphics card, wrong advertisement
    The only thing is.... 4700mq to 4702mq, which gives the computer 3000 points less then a 4700 on 3d mark test. 3000 points, dats HUGE.... not even joking. 4702= worst then what they got on Y500.... i paid more, for a worst laptop. :) happy days Lenovo :)
     
  49. gameover123

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    Right, i m now trying to calculate how much it is, for them to build one of this laptop. just for fun :) stay in tune :)
     
  50. Derek712

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    7870 is a much better card. It's also a single card, which is more stable and a desktop card which has much better cooling capability. You won't find any notebook with a faster GPU than that, with the exception of maybe the 780M. Even that won't ever exist in a 15" laptop. If you're trying to match the capabilities of future console games, you'll either have to buy a desktop or settle for less. IMHO, you'll probably want the GTX 770M, if you want to keep up with that. 750M SLI is just as capable as the 770M but SLI could have issues with some games and you might have to switch to single card. There are a few 15" options with the 770M. They all cost a little more though, so if money is of concern, the y510p(or even the y500) will probably be fine for most games.
     
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