new Gigabyte P35K

Wish it was dockable. What's the weight?

 

SLI on a laptop is just plain stupid.

More power used up.
More heat formed.

You get my drift?

 

I have to disagree and stop you right there. SLI in laptops are not stupid. The concept of having SLI in a laptop is to replace desktops and the reason for it is that people who travel lots will have the power of their desktop all time.

Yes, it consumes more power but that is why they have interchangeable graphic options. Take an Alienware 18 for example, it could change and use Intel graphics when not plugged in to save power. For heat, the lenovo Y510 and AW18 produced less heat that your average laptop because of the efficient cooling. When used for normal browsing and streaming, the heat is only 40-50C AVERAGE! For peak temperature for gaming its only 80+ C. That's a bloody good temp for gaming.

I hope you do look at stuff at a more wider perspective and not through a tube. Notebookcheck, youtube reviews, etc are an excellent source to find out more about a certain latops with SLI capabilities.

 

Sorry sir but not everyone has a wall socket next to them when they are using their laptop, I use them on the go.

I'm not looking for a desktop replacement, if I was I would just get a mini iTX build.
It would also be much cheaper per performance as well.

Also I hope you are trolling around, why would you pay so much for a laptop when the desktop alternative save you thousands.

 

Ooh Lord. Okay. A Lenovo y510p features switchable graphics and an Ultrabay chamber. Meaning I can pull out one of the GPU's at any time. Meaning I Don't have to use 2 GPU's, thus forth using less battery. Plus I bid you good luck in getting decent frame rates un-plugged with optimus kicking in. And as GreaseMonkey90 stated, It has a significantly lower average heat compared to most laptops in its class. Something thats also Amazeballs about the lenovo y510p's ultrabay, is the fact that I can switch in another fan. Only costs 20 bucks and can reduce the heat even more.
SLI working with Ultrabay can = Less power used, More Performance, Cooler Laptop.
You Get my drift?

Also it isn't a desktop replacement. I consider anything above 3.5 kg's a desktop replacement. And like I said, as long as it has optimus enabled, You won't be hitting up any 120 FPS on BF3 Ultra Max Settings unless its on the plug. Also I hope your not trolling around because a desktop replacement ain't gonna save me any "thousands." Considering the laptop only costs $820..

 

6 pounds. Same exact specs as a msi gs70 which is awesome.

 

Would be cool if some reseller came out with a complete barebones model of the GS70, would definitely buy it and upgrade with my own SSD's, RAM etc, it'd probably be cheaper too.

 

I posted that one page ago..

 

Thats not barebones, thats just rebranded and cheaper :3 Barebones laptops generally don't have a Hard Drive, Processor, RAM, wireless card etc. Its mostly just the shell with the mother board and GPU in it, and if there is any CD drive etc than that is there too. Then you just purchase your own components and install them yourself. Thats what I want, a complete barebones laptop

 

Ah ok, I'm not sure but I think some enterprises would sell you the empty barebone. You can choose most of the components anyway..

Have you people seen the GB Facebook page? now they've published the Cnet Au review. Ridicule.

 

I must agree partly with Retroceded, SLI is interesting but when using highend GPU's like on Alienware 18 but it also has quite a bit of thermal headroom and great cooling, it gets beastly benchmark scores which go up against the best non SLI desktops, but I do think it is stupid to SLI with low end GPU's like 750m, you might aswell put in a beefier GPU like 765m or 770m, less heat, less power use, more room for cooling, it is especially a bad idea in a laptop like Y510p which has very little thermal headroom and is very hot pretty much all the time, I would take a Y510p with GTX 770M over 750m SLI any day, heck probably even one with a 765m, not only would it be cheaper and perform pretty much on par, but it would probably run way cooler too .
Hell you could even still add the ultrabay for extra cooling, extra HDD or ODD bay, it would be a win win

 

lmao, that piece of crap they call a review? wot? Turns out that review isn't even actually of the final model, its just an engineering sample reviewed... Sooo basically that review is irrelevant to the model that is actually being released... Nice job Gigabyte.

 

We'll this came out of no where. I was primarily targeting desktop replacements and not the Lenovo.

Alright, you made a good point the y510p is cheap for having SLI.
But on lenovos website lists the $800 model as not SLI, only the $1200 model has SLI.
Still it's pretty cheap for a laptop, now let me say why I would not buy it.

I have SLI in my main rig, and I'm pretty sure if you ask anybody if they would prefer SLI over a single stronger card, they will choose the single card.

SLI is plagued with issues from support in games to micro stutter, sure you can fix it for a few games, but you'll spend quite a bit of fixing instead of playing.

To keep this ontopic, compare the 750m SLI to the 765m card on the p35k.
If you run them in stock of course the 750m SLI is going to beat the 765m, but if you overclock the 765m you can decently beat the SLI 750m.

And no not all laptops down clock when they are unplugged from the wall, research next time.

My bad if their is a couple f errors wrote this on my phone.

Also I hope you are trolling if you think the y510p will beat a $800 PC.

 

You make a good point here. Besides, it would be interesting to know how power management works for SLI systems, because if one card is desactivated, then I guess a 750M would consume less than a 765/770 on iddle. Although I don't think it would be too noticeable.
Also, power consumption on load, is it proportional to performance increase ? in relation to single card systems? If not, then there isn't much advantages for notebooks. I mean, you could just go for a relatively cheap high end single card notebook (clevos?).

You could also overclock the SLI...
I understand all laptos downclock if they have optimus activated, isn't that right?

 

You can always disable Optimus or force the program to run on the d-gpu.

And yeah you can overclock the SLI, I suppose but I've never done that in a laptop. I don't know what it's limitation would be.

Two cards already draw so much power and heat, stability may be an issue if you overclock it I suppose.

 

You would probably seriously damage the Lenovo Y510p with a big overclock, the thing is already really hot stock .

 

You guys probably already know, but the P34G is up for preorder finally on XoticPC for $1400 base config.

I know that it's still a good price for what it's packing, but what a disappointment from the original figures given eh? Really sad have waited so long but probably can't afford this anymore

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wow big misunderstanding !
To be clear, the Acer V5 does NOT come with SLI, it's a single GT750M wit 4G DDR3.

SINGLE GT750M with 4GB DDR3

GOT IT ?

This laptop has a 3DMark Vantage score of P7800 where the P35K is around P17000.
Can we forget this Acer and go back to the Gigabyte now ?

 

It was more about the Lenovo Y510p (with SLI) than the Acer anyway xD
But yeah, let's get back to GB.

 

True that.
Excaliberpc still hasn't heard from gigabyte btw.

 

Then why are you in this thread? That is clearly what this model is geared towards. There are any number of ultrabook threads you can hop on if that's what you're looking for.

 

Oh god the trolls. Are you kidding me?

I'm not even going to try.

 

Retroceded you caught me out on a few points there tops to you~ On another note, The p34g is way more expensive than I predicted it to be.. Seems my wait has gone to nothing for these laptops. If P34g is $1400 base model than the P35k will probably start around $1650-$1800.. For the price that these cost I could easily swoop in on that 17" Battalion 101 GS70 rebranded... But that too, is out of my price range.. Looks like its either a Lenovo Y series, W230st or holding out for that supposed "G46VR" refresh of the G46VW..

 

Your kidding right? It's an ultra portable gaming laptop.. This is no where near a dtr...

 

To expect this P34g be under 1400 is really unrealistic. Please face it, MSI Ge40 is listed as 1300 without IPS panel and only at 900p. In addition only a hdd option for the MSI as oppose to the p34g offer 128 SSD and 1TB HDD. that alone is way cheaper than the MSI already. Sadly, you are too unrealistic.

Unless the P34g come out with a less option version such as taking out the SSD, i don't see why it will be cheaper than this price.

 

Is anywhere taking preorders on this yet?

 

Well, not really if you reread what I wrote - carefully this time. I specifically said that I know it's a good price now, but given what they told us earlier, I expected a great price rather than a good price.

It's not unrealistic to have hoped for a price of maybe $1200 base, CONSIDERING the fact that they initially suggested $999. Why? Because it's not "too unrealistic" to actually have faith in the manufacturers predictions, at least to a certain extent.

Edit: and yes, if the base price of another website is going to be cheaper, it'll be because the SSD is removed. Shame really, I'd rather have a slightly thicker chassis and no backlit keyboard to drop the price even $50-$100 bucks.

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By all means, you should really consider the Clevo w230st. it is the price range of 1200 and it is unfortunately thicker (which fits your criteria)
Clearly the p34g will be a bit more expensive due to the slicker and slimmer design.
The speculation of initial price that they projected can only be speculation.
The reason I said is unrealistic is because there are actual physical product on the market with similar specs out there to compare.
A good example given previously is MSI which is a similar brand to gigabyte imo. they are both in the market for a long period of time that makes a lot of motherboards and others peripherals. They are both Taiwanese company, so is fair to compare their prices.
So to mention "unrealistic" , I think is fair to say that.

 

A speculative price is still speculative, and shouldn't be out of thin air. I didn't say I actually expected $999, instead I thought $1200 gave enough leeway to the fact that it was, ultimately, a speculation from the marketing department.

Let me try a simpler way:
They: $999
Me: wow! Nah, too low, maybe $1200? Middle ground between what it could be and the great price they've given
They: $1400
Me: wow, disappointing, shouldn't have speculated that low if you couldn't deliver.

Define:Unrealistic - not compatible with reality or fact

Hmm...

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I will almost be doing exactly that :3, But I'm a bit worried though with the w230st, Fan's are extremely loud I heard, and I think the screen may be slightly too small for video editing and graphic design which I need to do for school etc. My other option is Lenovo y410p, but the SLI card hasn't been released by lenovo yet, even though its been like 4 months now. P34g was the dream machine for me, but price in Australia is $1750. Way out of my price range :/ ...

 

Well... it is much more expensive in Europe. In UK: 1200 GBP (1400 Eur) for the 8GB ram config.
And I still don't doubt about it. There's no other product on the market that matches that: Good IPS screen, storage flexibility, full non-ULV CPU, decent GPU, slim and light profile.
I don't even care much about the GPU, I could do with a 750. But this laptop has the best chassis, light weight and 21mm, there's no comparison. Not to mention battery.
Things I worry about though, are the quality of the display and noise/temps levels. But being GB star, I'm betting the display will be good.

 

i feel for you since the price is so high in UK.
PPL are still complaining the price at 1400 USD in US. I agreed with you that the specs are hard to compare with what the p34g offer but will have to see the actual review of the product.

 

Except that these MSI GS70 rebrands are a lot cheaper for what you're getting, IMO.

Haven't seen any reviews on them so I can't really say... but that Battalion one looked really good.

 

True, but display quality it's an important factor for me. I haven't found a review that analyses that but being a TN, I don't have much hope...
Besides, 17'' changes the portability profile...Also I know I can do with 2.2Kg because right now I have a 11'' 2.2kg, but more I don't know.

 

Actually there is one, the Samsung Ativ Book 8. Even though a bit heavier, it comes with a much better battery life. It just hasn't been upgraded to Haswell yet. But it ticks every mark: quadcore, decent GPU, PVA (~IPS) display, huge battery, slim. The only thing you have to do is exchange the HDD for an SSD. but hopefully with the haswell refresh Samsung does that... I'm waiting for both the P35K and the Ativ Book 8 with Haswell. In terms of build quality, I would trust Samsung more.

 

Do you have a link of the haswell specifications?

 

An ssd won't be enough for me.
But even if it wasn't a problem, I think the profile is completely different. I don't care about battery life much, and the Ativ seems more like an ultrabook, hence the 3635QM... I'm not sure, and I don't feel like googling it now but I think it's the predecessor of the ULV processors? (even though it's quad).
Also, the haswell version isn't it the Ativ Book 9 (Plus) ?

 

I've seen a lot of you complain about prices in Australia / UK comparing them to the US.

You can't simply do that, because each country sets their own different minimum wage.
Australians get payed around $15+ for minimum wage (hourly)
Englanders get payed around $9 for minimum wage (hourly)
Americans get payed $7.25 for minumum wage (hourly)

Now I'm not 100% accurate when I say this but this is why a few things are more expensive from country to country. (Other factors such as location and tax rate play in, but they aren't that important for this discussion)

However sometimes prices can be unfair, and I know it.
For example the Parrot AR Drone 2.0 was $300 (US) and £300.

Anyways that's the end of my rant.

Oh and I got good news for people in the United State.

"P35K is coming around this month end, but we are not allowed to advertise them right now. We had a meeting internally and this is the info I was given -- P35K is to be priced between $1399 and $1599, two models to choose from, key differences are memory and storage options. P35Ks are good alternatives (smaller screens) to the MSI GS70 without spending $1700-1900."

This from an excaliberpc rep.

 

Between $1399 and $1599 means $1599, right?

Can't be cheaper than the P34g

 

it's not an ultrabook, it has a fast dGPU (8870M), non-ULV quadcore (45W TDP). no idea why you think it's not comparable, as it has all the same (good) specs. The haswell version hasnt been released yet and the Ativ Book 9 is a completely different computer (an ultrabook, actually).

 

That guy sounds like a sales rep. You can get a rebranded gs70 for ~1400. If the base model is truly 1400 I'll probably pick one up.

 

Well... because of the large battery life, single storage option, and the energy saving cpu (3xx5?).
But I just saw this. And it seems it performs even better than the 4700.

I also so the Ativ Book 9, I thought it was the only haswell version. Do you know when the other one is coming out? are there any specs or something?

 

large battery life here comes mostly from a large battery. it's 91 Wh. that's why it's a bit heavier than the P35K mostly. It's not a ULV CPU, but you saw that anyway.

The Ativ Book 9 is a totally different line, ultra-light ultrabook with ULV and without dGPU. Noone knows the Haswell specs of the Ativ 8 yet, and it's a bit strange Samsung doesn't even announce anything with other quadcore Haswell notebooks already being on the market.

 

I agree. There's no way the P35K will be $1400. The huge P25K with the same 765M video card starts around $1300. Why would anyone buy the P25K if they can get the sleek P35K for close to the same price?

 

I wouldn't call the pricing differences fair but another thing people seem to forget is that the UK typically includes VAT. This isn't a common practice in the US so the price at checkout will be higher.



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Americans don't have to pay taxes on online products, as long as the company is not based in their state, or something like that.

 

What are the P25K and P25W?

 

P25k 15.6" with 765m. Pretty much the same as the p35k but not thin. The p25w has a 770m with the p25 body.

 

Both are Gigabyte 15.6" notebooks. The big difference is that the P25W has the GTX 770M card and starts at $1500. They are kind of chunky and not slim like the P35K.

 

The P25W has the 770m as volati1e said and also a bigger (li-ion, not li-pol) battery (86Wh if I remember correctly), BUT and that is a big but, it only comes with a very bright yellow lid and chrome trim to top it off. I'd sure like to see someone repainting the lid (the guys at xoticpc offer to cover it with some kind of wrap for $89 to $199 ). Seems like a pretty stupid design decision from behalf of Gigabyte...
Oh, and the screen is TN not IPS.