new Gigabyte P35K

In Uk prices are quite similar...
P34 1159 GBP
P35 1200 GBP

 

I would have got the samsung if it was sold in the US.

 

thanks for pointing out the definition of unrealistic- not compatible with reality or fact.
Please check the prices for their own p25w, p25k and p27k and you will know why is unrealistic to think the price will be starting at 999 for p34g.
I can understand the anger for their speculation price but again, that is the business strategy to attract the attention. Don't be fool for that and be disapointed that easily.

 

Another review is up, this one is slightly more detailed.
技嘉P35K電競ç†é›»é–‹ç®±åˆ†äº«, 15.6吋內斂黑, 高效能, 大容量四顆硬碟 - Sinchen 3C部落æ¼.

Here is my summary.

Battery Life

-Full Brightness and + KB light + internet = 2 hours and 28 minutes
-Full Brightness + game = 1 hour and 2 minutes

*Full Brightness = 100% Brighntess

I can't really comment on this, but if CNETS review lasted 3 hours or so with 50% brightness with powermark.
It looks like it may last quite a while if you lower that brightness and just browse the web.

Temperature (Intake is 30*C)
62*C CPU IDLE 89*C CPU MAX
55*C GPU IDLE 85*C GPU MAX

He kept saying that Gigabyte commerical model will be better, idk

Noise

Stealth: 46 dB
UltraBoost: 58dB

Hardware Info

Intel Core i7-4700HQ @ 2.4GHz CPUmark: 560
NVDIA GeForce GTX 765m
LITEONIT LMT-128M6M 128GB SSD * 2 / RAID 0
942 MB/s READ 621 MB/s WRITE
Transcend DDR3 1600 4GB * 2

Benchmarks

Devil May Cry 4: Rank A (1920x1080) +60 FPS

FFXIVBenchmark Score: 2570

Unigine_Heaven-3.0 567 Score 567 22.5 FPS

Lost Planet 2 Benchmark 31.1 FPS Rank B

ResidentEvil6 Benchmark Rank A Score 4766 1920x1080

StreetFighter4 Rank A Score 5956 FPS 59.84

PCMARK7 Score 5945

Watching Movies 1080p CPU 10%-20%

 

The temperatures seem unusually high for a dual fan cooling system

 

He mentioned that in the review, here is the translation

"(This temperature and noise I have mentioned with Gigabyte is said in the official commercial version will then adjust the temperature and noise, than I am currently using this version is even lower Oh!)"

Which I think means that the Commercial version will be quieter / cooler.

 

Ok

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They're good though.
Too bad they're on ultraboost... I would have liked to know it in other config.

 

His ambient temp was pretty high at 86F/30C so I think it can do a bit better. Still, I think the P35k is going to be hot and loud. Something has to give when you put high TDP components in such a small space.

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ahahah every manufacturer says the same... But how many times do you see a problem corrected in such short notice ? never. so don't expect miracles, they cannot change the fan now or improve the efficiency of the cooling. What they can do however is to adjust BIOS settings to have a different cooling management, but the change will be subtle.
All in one, this P35K will be loud and hot in full charge. Deal with it.

Another problem is battery life that is very disappointing, maybe a software issue (dGPU working during web surf or video).

Finally, at this stage, this model is a big let down. More than never, "wait and see" is what everybody must do before putting the trigger...

 

I can't writemuch now, but I think you hace a very narrow vision here.
First, battery life from that review was tested at 100%.
Second, is was an engineering sample from a few months ago, some of them didn't even have the backlit keyboard, like the one from cnet au.

 

Do you think a manufacturer will send out samples to review if it was not 98% like the production ?
They are not such thing as last minute hardware change. You must buy parts weeks and more often months before starting production. For example, the cooling system that is responsible for high noise and high temperatures will not be changed in units that are already in US warehouses. It's too late, as this batch was manufactured weeks ago (it takes 4 weeks for sea shipment from Taiwan to LA)

 

no... thats not true at all. Firstly, writing a review takes time. All these tests and such can't be done very well over night, if at all. The official video announcement for the Ultrablade laptop's only came out on June 3rd this year. Remember how the laptop kept getting pushed back? and still is? most likely due to issues with the new Haswell processors or Windows 8.1, there are also chances that it was due to change in the colour scheme etc which occurred. June was only 4 months ago. These reviews have only showed up in the past 2-3 weeks, but they are still pre-production models. You say that shipping takes 4 weeks, so then these reviewers must have gotten the Official Model right? Clearly, they didn't since they say so themselves. Point being - It was never too late for gigabyte to fix the problems

 

affordablelaptops.com.au - says P35k is to arrive in Australia on October 3rd. 1 week 1 day left?

 

Sorry I don't agree. I worked for a tech company and I was dealing with journalists. Sometimes they have only 2 days to write a review. The vast majority is less than a week. When they visit a show, they write a report the same day !
I can bet anything with you that the first production batch of this P35K will run hot and loud, within 5% of the reports that are coming now on prototype hardware.
An important rule, when I was in press relationship, was to never give out to journalist something that will get bad press and that will not represent 95% of the final product. When Gigabyte is now saying that it will be fixed in production, its called "damage control".
But if you prefer to believe, no problem you can stay naive if you want. Just don't be too disappointed when final reviews will come out...

 

Still not release information in the US. I wonder what is holding up the shipment considering that the p34g is already up for preorder and has a price from various sites already. I am pretty sure the US was one of the earlier release countries.

 

another P35K review on prototype machine (google translate):
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browsing web battery endurance test, screen at full brightness, ultraboost OFF and power set to balance, is a whooping... 2H28min !!!
gaming test, Diablo 3, same conditions... 1H10min...
all these super duper numbers with a huge 75.81Wh battery
Worst power management ever. but final product will be great, yeah sure...

 

I meant battery life is not dissapointing, it was tested at 100% brightness (completely unreal usage) and as we have seen in other reviews, it's quite ahead of the competition (with similar hardware).
Also, tell me if I'm wrong, but some engineering samples are made with spare parts in the lab (won't be the first time we hear the screen is not the final screen). What I see here is that all these reviews can't even agree on the backlit keyboard, which makes me think they're not quite the same final product. Besides we know Sinchen has had the sample for quite some time now (we first saw the photos more than a month ago?). There have been same final design changes (just take a look at the first announcing videos and now, you'll notice a color change, which does seem a little counter productive in the grand scale production, for a last minute change, I mean, it's the f**cking chassis! right?).
Then again, considering a fan change, or bios updates, or whatever. I have hope for some improvement, even with results that are quite reasonable so far"

I don't know why people so much about temps because:
1- Haswells can stand 100*C (stated by Intel). And even in that case, chances are you're going to replace the notebook before it stops working by natural causes (7+ years? mine is already 6+ years, first core duo generation).
2- Temperature isolation is usually good (we have yet to see, but I've seen good results in unbranded models), that means you woudn't really notice a temperature rise at the keyboard, or at least not at an uncomfortable level.

This gives room for fan noise because you don't need to use the ultraboost mode (58db, which if you look at the picture, was measured right above the machine and with a phone app....).
All in all, I'd say the product is more than fine.

I cannot understand two things:
1- Why GB insist on giving engineering samples to these amateur bloggers?
2- Why does he get like 80+ degrees on the 765M? Usually it's round 60+ on load?(clevo w230st, which gets higher cpu temps).

Dude, there's no chance you'll use it at 100% brightness, I mean how bad does the display need to be for you to need this setting?
If you look at the powermark results, it's the best performance so far (cnet au).
This chinese guy gets on my nerves. One month for this review...

 

It's clear that ArthurG has an agenda, otherwise he wouldn't be here crapping on the product vehemently. He says they are in damage control and perhaps they are but logic would dictate that if it has been delayed for as months as it has, perhaps there is a REASON? You know, say, using those few months to fix some of the issues.

But hey, at this stage it's a big let down... worst power management ever, all that jazz. So let's let it consume our lives till the end of time.


Sarcasm aside, it's a niche product for the time being and we will need to wait and see the final results before placing judgment, instead of jumping to conclusions.

 

Clevo W230ST Review (GTX 765M): [almost] True ultrabportable gaming laptop - Gaming Laptops Junky

According to this review the 765m frequently gets above 80 and maxes out at about 97 after extensive usage (not day to day or typical gaming). Also just because a chip can function at 100 degrees doesn't mean that it's optimal. There's a reason why people use better cooling methods such as liquid loops, it's because as the temperature increases you lose performance. Also you need to consider chip creep when dealing with large temperature changes. Extra heat may also damage adjacent parts, especially parts made using plastic.

As for battery life, haswell is supposedly more efficient than ivy bridge. My guess is that the engineering samples didn't have optimus working properly. With optimus you could probably get close to 5-6 hours according to some of the figures that gigabyte has posted on facebook. If it completely disables the dGPU you should be able to push quite a bit of battery life out of the machine. Granted it does use a 1080p screen so it is expectable that you'd get less battery than the MSI ge40 or Razer blade.

 

Duuuuuuude, calm yo' nips man.

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We need a real review, with real life experiences...

 

hmm big misunderstanding here. I'm not on a journey.
In fact, I'm interested by this P35K. I like the format and the power it delivers for the size (I currently have a Sony SV15 FHD ivy bridge that I want to replace in the coming weeks).
But I'm not blind and I try to make a wise choice. What I see now is not pleasing at all on this P35K. Haswell brings incredible battery life like we saw on MBA and Acer S7. Of course, I don't expect same battery life on P35K, but running on integrated Intel GPU with such huge battery wen surfing the web and doing some basic office stuff, it's not unrealistic to ask for 5~6 hours of available power. We are far far far from here, even with the prototype "excuse".
Anyway, I will stay silent until final proper reviews come out, and hopefully I will be wrong for the benefit of all.

 

Guys! Look what this p35k has done to us... We never used to bicker before this and now look. :-(
So what if someone is "on a journey" or if someone hints that the laptop will melt through your desk... It was probably a stupid desk anyway.

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I don't know why so many doubts around this. I'll put it simple:

A Gaming Ultrabook Grudge Match -- Razer Blade Pro Versus MSI GS70 STEALTH - Forbes

In another test, the GS70 did 1:55 and the P35K did 3:07.
Gigabyte P35K Review - Laptop & Notebook computers
So, we're talking about a better battery life than the razer blade pro. Are we clear on that? There's no better, if you need better then you need to wait for new unknown/upcoming laptops or a different architecture (ULV cpus).

LOL

 

Boy, you are comparing battery life with those ultra books. Just to be clear, this is a gaming notebook, you have to put the GPU in perspective. Stop whining about it. If you need something for surfing the web and doing some basic office stuff, i don't think gaming laptops are suitable for you.

 

Can we all stop crying please, yeah battery life is going to suck if you use it at 100% Brightness and game on it at the same time.

Christ sakes on the CNET review the P35K had the longest batter life. The P35K beat the MSI GS70, and the MSI GS70 beat the Razer Blade pro.

Let this be the end of it for a it, the P35K has one of the best battery life in its category.

No more discussion.

 

the interesting thing is it uses a 120W power adapter....
With this configuration and the many drives it's capable to run, I think gigabyte is pushing the power brick to the edge..not very good for a gaming laptop (if u care about overclock and stuff) it looks small and portable though

FYI my alienware 14 comes with a 150W power adapter despite it's smaller screen and much less drives, which maybe an overkill but I like that overclocking headroom

 

My current (massively overheating) powerbrick doubles as a heater for my feet come winter time. BRING ON THE OVERUSE!

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From the Overclockers.co.uk thread about the P35K:

** LATEST GIGABYTE LAPTOPS NOW AVAILABLE FROM OcUK INCLUDING P35K / P34G!! ** - Page 2 - Overclockers UK Forums

"Saw this another forum, apparantly it's from a dell rep about the m3800.

"Sorry but right now we still haven't got the motherboard and chipset orders from Intel so we can offer this model line, in fact all 4th gen models we currently carry are offered as a fixed build due to shortage of parts.
latest word from Intel is they will fulfill all backlog orders by the 1st or 2nd week of October, this is actually not just us here at Dell but other manufacturers as well."

Looks like it's because of intel. Might sound plausible as a few other laptops I've been looking at don't have any stock either."

Reason for the delays? My credit card has been debited for my order, so I hope the delay is not too long.

 

a wild guess....maybe they're fixing the c1 stepping bug?

 

Hey...now that I think about it, it's been in stock in Germany for a few weeks now. Anyone that speaks german can do a quick search? There must be a german forum o something.

 

Where did you hear/read that? I just checked their FB page and they say the P25 "should release next week" for Germany, so I doubt they've had the P35 for a few weeks. Someone would have linked to a review or youtube video by now.

Also, the latest message from the FB page is this: We would like to announce that we will make an announcement soon.

 

Way back when they were up for preorder in Germany through alternate.de. The P25 that they're talking about on the Facebook page is a completely different line of theirs (you're thinking of the P35K and P34G).

And about the announcement announcement - I know a few people appreciate the humour on Gigabyte's Facebook team, but from a dude from Hong Kong who's used to nothing but curt efficiency from companies, their 'attempt' at keeping things light is only making me want to punch someone and buy something else.

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They were in stock at computeruniverse (someone else remembers?) but now there's a 4 week waiting period...

LOL. No FB page would be maybe better for my patience.

 

They announced the preorder for the P34G Monday this week, so I guess the P35K will be up for preorder next Monday.

Between the P34G has been getting good comments from Australia go check out this forum, let's hope it's the same for the P35K

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2109803&p=9&#r161

 

I know the P25 is a completely different line, but seeing that the P25 became available first, and those aren't even available in Germany yet, is why I said I don't think they have the P35. I still don't think they released in Germany or else we'd have an official review of a final version, or Youtube videos, or some blog posts. And alternate.de has them available for "pre-order" and delivery in October. If they were selling them before, shouldn't they say "sold out" or "backordered"?

If intentional, I don't appreciate the Gigabyte NB Facebook humor at all. On the contrary, it makes me think that they are incompetent, misinformed, and unprofessional.

 

Dynamism is listing the P34G for $1400
First shipment is October 1st.

 

Just checked the facebook page, got some news...

 

hi, I'm a new comer on this forum
Could anyone give me a quick review about this laptop? what's good&bad things of this P35K? i'm quite interested to this laptop
and which is better between Gigabyte P35K or MSi GE60 20E? Thank you very much, guys

 

P35K is not out yet. I don't see any single spec that could make the MSI better...

 

oh yeah? what about the price? anybody know how much it will be? thank you

 

That's why I said spec ;-)

More than the p34g, maybe not too much? There are prices posted a few posts ago.

 

Same CPU/GPU so performance should be similar. MSI ge60 is .5 inches thicker so less portable a fewer drive bays. Price difference may be accounted for if the p35k launches with an SSD installed. MSI is ~1250 but doesn't come with SSD. The p34g is 1400 but comes with 128 SSD which makes up the price difference.

 

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This finish website is saying that the ETA for gigabytes laptops are October 15th.

Edit, just talked to a Excaliber Rep.

He said the embargo will end Sunday and we should expect news Monday. (He said something about intel ending it)
He also mentioned that they could recieve the first shipment on the third week of October.

Sigh sigh.

Also it looks like other companies are going to have their stocks in on the 18th of October, just to throw one out there look at the alien wares from dell.

 

So it is Intel's fault! >=@

 

P35k is said to be available for purchase on affordablelaptops.com.au on October 3rd... I'll list prices as soon as they come out IF it really does come out on the 3rd

 

oh yeah. thanks, man. it's really helpful. so now i'm just waiting for the price. i wish it's not really expensive

 

Pricing in Norway seems very fair, especially considering the specs:
MULTICOM / Søk

Do note that Norwegians prices may seem extreme in comparison to prices in other countries due to high income and high taxes on luxury goods.
We do not have the highest taxation, but it is pretty high.




The short version:

P35K LCD version
10.795 NOK

15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 screen (anti-glare), 16:9 panel
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 765M 2GB GDDR5 GPU
4th gen Intel Core™ i7-4700HQ prosessor 2.4-3.4GHz, Quad Core, 6MB
Intel HM87 Express chipset
8GB DDR3 1600MHz SO-DIMM RAM (2x4GB)
1TB SATA 2.5" Hybrid hard disk with SSD Flash
_______________________________________________________

P35K IPS version
12.995 NOK

15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 IPS screen (anti-glare), 16:9 panel
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 765M 2GB GDDR5 GPU
4th gen Intel Core™ i7-4700HQ prosessor 2.4-3.4GHz, Quad Core, 6MB
Intel HM87 Express chipset
16GB DDR3 1600MHz SO-DIMM RAM (2x8GB)
128GB mSATA SSD
1TB SATA 2.5" Hard disk



To find a roughly estimated price for the US, one can divide the price by ten, which gives us these prices:

P35K LCD version
1079.5$

P35K IPS version
1299.5$

There are various configurations, so I would guess the maxed version with Blu-ray and 256GB SSD would cost about 1500$. It is still cheap

 

12995 NOK is actually about $2200 USD. The conversion rate is closer to 1:5.