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    new Gigabyte P35K

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by [-Mac-], Jun 2, 2013.

  1. zipykido

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    Of course computers are built with protection against overheating. Even so, your computer will last much longer if it isn't constantly running at 90 degrees. Since these laptops tend to be gaming enthusiasts my guess is that they're not underclocking to reduce load and reduce temperature. Since this uses a two-fan system it'll be noisy and the gains from using two smaller fans might not be equal to gain from using 1 large fan.
     
  2. David7

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    I remember seeing P35K-CF2 on Dynamism's website for $1599 with 1 GB HDD + 128 msata ssd, 12 gb of ram, optical drive, and 1080p IPS display. This was before Dynamism took down the price of the P35K from their website. Not sure if it will be the same when it releases in October.

    EDIT: sorry I meant to say IF it releases in October. :(
     
  3. itsmeee

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    Gigabyte NB facebook page just posted a review for the P35K, I must say that it definitely looks quite the sexy and sleek laptop. If anyone would care to translate the Mandarin review into plain ol english for us then that would be much appreciated.. looking through the pictures though, it appears to be mostly hardware-ish review (thats just to me), but there is a few screens of LoL so yea :3

    技嘉GIGABYTE 地表極薄電競ç†é›» P35K 至薄機身 重裝上陣!! @ 英雄聯盟資訊站 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::

    Edit: Scratch that. Google translate works pretty well.

    Edit #2: Thunderbolt port appears in the pictures of the review, however it is blocked off and the reviewer completely ignores the fact that it is there when he goes over the ports. I think with this we can definitely conclude that there will be NO THUNDERBOLT PORT in the P35K... not that that hadn't already been concluded... Seems gigabyte has also implemented some of their special "Smart Technology" in the computer, allowing the user to change fan speeds and go into "ulrtaboost" along with the usual wifi, touch pad, bluetooth on/off etc. Apparently it is some "super cooling fan technology enhancement" but I think i'll leave that for the benchmarks to decide...
     
  4. Chyl

    Chyl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Once competition comes out... I don't think I'll want to deal with Gigabyte's crappy marketing, distribution, and overall (potential) customer experience.

    It's too bad there's nothing out right now that matches form and functionality of the p35k
     
  5. BlkKnight

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    Don't knock their customer service. I've only good things to say about their motherboards.

    Delays on new tech happen. There's a plethora of things which can delay product.

    Yes they could have handled the situation better, but it's not the end of the world
     
  6. Chyl

    Chyl Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm strictly talking about their laptops. I know they're quite new to it, but it makes for an unpleasant experience to have to wait and not know anything.

    Until they step up their game in that respect, I'd rather stick with a more reputable (in terms of purchaser experience) brand.

    Again, they have me this time simply because the product is superior to others in the market.

    Of course, I DO hope they get better at it. I have no problem with the company - but I do with the experience of this pre-purchase
     
  7. king1153

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    I read the review through google translate, and it actually sounded pretty nice, even though the reviewer wasn't the best and didn't go into lots of detail.

    I wish that they could somehow get some US vendors to sell it, like the MS store, or other US outlets. Personally, I think that that's the only downside to this laptop. (besides possibly mediocre build quality)

    I'm currently trying to choose between this laptop, the Razer blade 14', and the Dell M3800...Help?
     
  8. zipykido

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    Blade 14" for gaming on the go. The dell is a different class of laptop, it's more of a workstation than a gaming computer since it has quadro graphics rather than GTX line. Although that screen resolution is rather ridiculous, more like the samsung ativ book 9. There's really no way you could game at those resolutions on a laptop.

    Also I just reread the youtube comments about the p35k. Apparently the 90 degrees was with turbo on. While I'm surprised that turbo fan mode doesn't work better I'm sure if you have it on a cooling pad and upgraded the thermal paste you'd be gaming at around 70-80 degrees with turbo off.
     
  9. itsmeee

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    Depends on what your using the laptop for... The M3800 looks like a premium business laptop but is probably made of cheap brushed plastics.. I currently have a Dell Inspiron 15r, and I must say that the build quality is absolute . I would debate between only the Razer blade or the P34g. A Clevo W230st could be a very good laptop for you aswell, depending on its usage. Also the Lenovo y410p. I would buy a y410p or a y510p if i could, but lenovo doesn't accept pay pal, nor do they accept international credit cards besides American Express. But yea, I wouldn't consider the M3800, even though it looks pretty good it will probably be a piece of crap. (This is just my opinion though with my own bad experiences with Dell.)
     
  10. itsmeee

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    I THINK I MAY HAVE FOUND AN EVEN, OR BETTER SUBSTITUTE FOR THE P35K. maybe. I was looking at GT 750m SLI Laptops, and stumbled across the Acer Aspire V5-573G. At the moment I can only find it in European websites, but the price is generally around 800 Euros. It has a GT 750m SLI 4GB in total, 1920x1080 IPS display, 8GB ram (12 max), Some models have a touch screen, only 2kg, . Down side is an intel i5-4200U 1.6ghz - 2.6ghz. Unsure about storage options, but it appears to have only a 500GB HDD, which is a huge downside.
    Official website link with specs: (Think its in German doe).
    Acer | Aspire V5 | Aspire V5-573G-54208G50akk | Datasheet

    Website to purchase: Price in AUD is only around $950, and shipping is only 24.9 EU to Australia so I think thats a pretty damn good deal.
    http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90520300/acer-aspire-v5-573g-54208g50akk.asp
     
  11. Benmaui

    Benmaui Notebook Evangelist

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    That must be a typo, there is no SLI Acer laptop ...
    Edit : Looking through your links and nowhere do I see them mention SLI, just that weird 4gb 750m, so I am not to sure how you came yo the conclusion that it was an SLI laptop .
     
  12. itsmeee

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    yea thats not the right model that i linked, I was just using that as an example of the laptop, anyway, heres a link to notebookcheck. Couldn't find the model they reviewed.

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M SLI - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    If you scroll down the bottom it shows you the laptops they've reviewed which have GT 750m SLI. The Acer v5 is one of the three laptops.
     
  13. zipykido

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    Seems like that model is only available in Germany. Acer has a bunch of these odd naming schemes that make very little sense. Some of their V5s have dedicated graphics and some don't. It'd be nice if they didn't use long, complicated, and undescriptive model names.
     
  14. likebutta

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    Not sure if this has been posted but a question was asked in regards to the P35K's battery life on GB NB Facebook page and they replied with:

     
  15. Chyl

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    Just confirmed that release has been pushed back to the end of September in the US. There is apparently an embargo on the p35k that's why resellers can't really say anything or give any information.

    End of Sept is definitely better news than Oct. :)
     
  16. Retroceded

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    Source please?
     
  17. Chyl

    Chyl Notebook Enthusiast

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    ExcaliberPC sales rep
     
  18. Retroceded

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    Hey thanks for the quick reply, sounds good.
    I guess I could wait one more week before making a choice.
     
  19. B'midbar

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    But why an embargo?
     
  20. UKyank

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    That's either a complete bs excuse for their delay (most likely) or if true at all, gigabyte has or used a very incompetent shipping specialist.

    Hard to believe saying it's shipped but being embargoed on one hand but unable to reveal pricing details on the other - no one ships a product without knowing its pricing details ( even if it's just msrp)
     
  21. Retroceded

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    It's not hard to believe.
    Gigabyte has a US support center where they should be receiving all their shipments from Taiwan. Then the US Gigabyte Center distributes its stock with all the info.*

    *I too talked to a sales rep. from ExcaliberPC
     
  22. Retroceded

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    Here is my chat log from Excaliber PC

    Sales Rep: [16:02] i'm reading over some emails
    [16:02] one sec
    Retroceded: [16:03] Alright, cool I'll wait.
    Sales Rep: [16:03] first of all
    [16:03] the p35k is under embargo
    [16:03] Intel's gag order of sorts
    [16:03] this is until the end of the month i think
    [16:03] that's what the email is stating
    Retroceded: [16:04] Is it possible for me to read up on the email?
    Sales Rep: [16:04] no


    Retroceded: [16:05] hmm alright.
    Sales Rep: [16:05] but no where does it mention estimated dates on the p35k

    [16:05] i think you may have to call Gigabyte USA too to see
    [16:05] that might be the next step
    Retroceded: [16:05] But you don;t have a price yet?
    Sales Rep: [16:06] we should
    Retroceded: [16:06] Its just an embargo saying you cant sell this to america yet.
    Sales Rep: [16:06] let me see

    Retroceded: [16:06] Alright cool thanks.
    Sales Rep: [16:07] i looked at the backend and we did not enter a price into it
    [16:07] so Gigabyte never gave us the pricing
    Retroceded: [16:08] Well thats wierd, they were trying to ship something out to you without an MSRP...
    [16:08] ?

    Sales Rep: [16:08] no, they'd not ship to us
    [16:08] they'd ship to Gigabyte distributors first
    [16:09] then when it lands they would tell us the wholesale price we are to pay
    [16:09] and we'd get it from the distributors

    Retroceded: [16:09] Oh Okay, that clears up a few things, I'll try contacting Gigabyte personally.
    Sales Rep: [16:09] ok ok
    Retroceded: [16:09] Thank you for being so helpful.


    So I wonder what this embargo has to do with intel...

    Anyways just incase anybody wants to read up on what an embargo is check out
    http://readwrite.com/2009/12/25/redux_why_and_how_embargoes_work_in_tech_blogging#awesm=~ohVJYjhLnO9RnM
     
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  23. UKyank

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    Ah, that kind of embargo, I thought you meant a shipping one by like US Customs which made no sense - not that intel prohibiting the sale makes any more sense though
     
  24. volati1e

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    Sounds like BS if you ask me. What would Intel have to do with Gigabyte releasing pricing and release information? It's not like the i7-4700HQ is some new processor that other manufacturers aren't already selling. :rolleyes:
     
  25. Retroceded

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    I just want to ask does anyone have the P35K yet?


    A couple of people just received their P34G's, doesn't hurt to ask I guess.
     
  26. likebutta

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    Perhaps there is not a direct correlation; perhaps the agent meant like "Intel does <with it's processors with reviewers>".
     
  27. BlkKnight

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    If the embargo isn't bs. The only reason I can think of is that it might be something to do with reclassification of Ultra book.

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 4
     
  28. Benmaui

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    Yeah I wouldn't go off that, Notebookcheck often does this sort of typo, just look up MSI's GS70 where they state it has SLI 765m, it's just one of their numerous typos, I highly doubt Acer released a 750m SLI Acer v5 .
     
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    Hello, I have just noticed a short review on cnet Australia:

    P35K cnet Australia

    EDIT: ooops apologies for double posting this
     
  31. zipykido

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    This review was pretty laughable. I guess since there aren't very many ultraportables in the 15" category. The other options are 17" laptops in the high performance gaming category. Although they did confirm the 53 db during gaming which is very noisy, but I guess that's the cost of having dual fans. Also they didn't mention the ODD bay at all.
     
  32. darth_poopie

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    Haha what a terribly written review. Remember when we actually used to bank on CNET for our tech reviews? Good times. Can't wait for Anandtech to do a full review of this and the P34G.

    But thanks for sharing anyway! At least we know it's rather loud hahaha.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    not very informative at all, I was just excited to see reviews in English popping up! :)
     
  34. Retroceded

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    Good find, but what a crappy review.
    And is it even accurate and reliable?

    "The island keyboard displayed a little bit of flex during heavy-handed typing, and the lack of backlighting makes it tricky to use in nocturnal environments. It's a good thing most gamers pack their own gaming mice, as the touch pad employed on the P35K can only be described as dismal, with buttons that failed to register at least half of our button presses. Low-quality speakers will do in a pinch, but a set of dedicated headphones are a must."

    The laptop has a backlit keyboard did they just not turn it on?
    They say the laptop has a low quality speaker but don't state why it's poor ffs.

    Only thing I liked was the benchmarks, surprised me this laptop could max out a few games with 25+fps.
     
  35. cybernick01

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    Doesn't say much about anything... not even how the noise measures were taken or at what temps. So I'm just going to ignore it.
     
  36. volati1e

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    That "review" is garbage. I wonder if Bennett Ring even has the machine in his hands. This guy has no credibility and probably shouldn't be writing tech reviews if this is legit.

    "Unfortunately, this potent processor is let down by the entry-level Nvidia GTX 765M GPU. Despite being included in Nvidia's new 700 series, this is a base-level GPU by anybody's measure, as you'll soon see in our benchmark results."

    Lol. He ran supposedly ran all tests at 1920x1080 ultra quality, and the scores of the P35K are very close to the Toshiba Qosmio and Asus G750, which is impressive considering the size differences of those machines. He doesn't mention the subwoofer. And unless Gigabyte changed something, or he has a pre-production model, he can't figure out how to turn on the backlight? :rolleyes:
     
  37. cybernick01

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    He had the notebook. I remember a few posts back someone said gigabyte announced a bench or something done by cnet au.
    Anyway, thanks for the contribution to the poster. But we will need to wait for other sources.

    It seems they are already shipping the p34g. I've always assumed the cooling system would be worse but now I'm thinking maybe they've used the same and saved space for the disks... so it would be equally noisy. It would be logical, it's the same hardware.
     
  38. Retroceded

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    People already have the P34G.
    Go check out its thread.
     
  39. zipykido

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    The only thing that might change is the diameter of the fans. The thickness is probably the same. Of course different body might also equate to different sound dampening. If anything it might be louder, but 53 db is already high as it is. Also considering that fan noise is often high-pitched it may be quite annoying without headphones on.
     
  40. cybernick01

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    I don't follow. If the fans are bigger, more air flow and less rpm are needed = less noise?
    Bleh, I guess it's just too much speculation. It will be the biggest drawback I guess.
     
  41. zipykido

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    That's exactly it. A larger fan can move the same amount of air with fewer RPMs which means less noise. Just compare 120 mm to a 300 mm case fan and you can tell immediately. That's why a lot of companies use the single large fan system and have both heatsinks connect to that fan. Reduces noise and is actually better at keeping the CPU cool when you're not using your GPU but sometimes suffers when both are running at max.
     
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    Haha aw thanks buddy! But don't worry about it, this part of the world tends to be used to and hence really prepared for this kind of stuff. Nonetheless, if you don't hear from me again - MAY YOU ALL FIND YOUR PERFECT LAPTOP.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    That looks really cool! I'm concerned about build quality and overheating though, it looks even slimmer than the Gigabyte but can't be sure since they don't give specs

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    I get the feeling it is the same family of this one? It's a MSI Stealth GS70 barebone I think.
     
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    you are kidding right ?
    This Acer V5-573G is far far from P35K. not the same league...
    First the CPU is very subpar for gaming
    and more important, the 750M is not SLI, it's a stupid 4G DDR3 setup with 3DMark Vantage CPU score of P7800, half of GTX765M (P17000)
    finally the battery is pathetic (4cells 3560mAh)

    However the Acer is a very decent machine for the price (light, thin, good screen, good multimedia performance, but not gaming level)
     
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    Yea I've realized that now though dude. Didn't realize it was a typo until I did some thorough research on Acer's retarded naming schemes and systems. I care not for battery, why? Because unplugged generally gives performance anyway thanks to Graphics switching and usually lowers frame rates, Having 2x gt 750m 2gb's packs more performance than a single GTX 765m. Although the GT 750m's will drain battery quicker and may cause more heat, it still has more power. I'm pretty sure you can get higher frame rates with a Gt 750m SLI than with a single GTX 765m... But yea.. I thought the price was pretty damn good.. But I think I'll go with either the lenovo y510p or the y410p now.. Since the y510p has SLI and the y410p is supposedly set for SLI to be enabled on it, Plus it has a red backlit ketboard. Dat I Like :D
     
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