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    new Gigabyte P35K

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by [-Mac-], Jun 2, 2013.

  1. zipykido

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    It's a duo fan system. Hopefully they have optimus enabled so when I'm not gaming the CPU fan isn't too noisy. For gaming I think most serious people have a cooling pad or at least know to prop their system up for better flow. Even while gaming though I usually have headphones so 53 db is nothing.

    With the release date being pushed back further and further I'm not sure it's worth waiting. I also don't like the fact that only the RAM is user upgradable aside from the ODD. I can get extra msatas for much cheaper than their upgrade price. MSI also has a similar policy but they don't abide by it. They only put the sticker on to make sure people don't mess around if they don't know what they're doing. Which is great because I also like to repaste the cooling system after a new laptop, usually drops by a few degrees.
     
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    I'm kind of worried about the rear vents... It seems that if the lid is up, the rear vent exhaust looks kind of limited. Only the real product and time will tell I guess
     
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    No need to be worried. Just look at the pictures that were released awhile ago by Sinchen.Lin on flickr awhile go. If you analyze the pictures, the mechanism which acts as the hinge adds height since it's coming out from the bottom part of the chassis, as opposed to the middle back which is most common on laptops. So there is a little it of space and the butt of the lids doesn't block it halfway; on top of that, the back vents seem angled diagonally downwards

    gigabyte-p35k - a set on Flickr
     
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    Agreed. Notice the LCD lid is offset from the base. It is one of the things that gives me confidence that the P35K will be well designed.
     
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    How would they prevent you from upgrading either the sata or msata drives? That would be a deal breaker for me. Especially since 512GB msata and 2TB 2.5" will be available down the line.
     
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    Nothing a hair dryer or heatgun couldn't fix :p
     
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    They can't "prevent" you per se, but they've said multiple times that if you upgrade the msata drive yourself, you void your warranty. I'm assuming there is a sticker that needs to be removed to access the msata drive. Pretty lame. :rolleyes:
     
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    What the above poster said. Also the warranty is 2 years which is pretty decent so I would be hesitant to void my warranty before 6 months just in case. It is upgradeable, but you need to send it to a qualified shop or something to have it upgraded without voiding your warranty. In the UK I think the price is like 35 pounds + 10 pounds for shipping in the UK according to one of the answers on the facebook page. I have no clue how much it will be in the USA or how much it will cost. Honestly it feels wrong to send my computer to someone else just to have them remove a few screws, plug in a drive and ship it back (which takes who knows how long).
     
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    Seeing the photos from the korean guy, I would guess it would be placed to prevent the chasis from opening?
    Because there is direct access to the ram, which will not void warranty.

    Also someone was asking before, it seems the swapable accessory for ODD/HDD comes with the notebook.
     
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    Thanks! I looked at some google pictures and they are covering the rear. I've looked at his pictures and missed it!
    I liked your post... does that mean I gave you a +1 to rep power?
     
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    Ok, that makes sense. It's still lame. I can't wait 2 years to break the seal. I'd give it six months, that should be enough to make sure it's not a lemon. Or just get a square trade for $$$.
     
  13. volati1e

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    I think by law, the warranty for you guys in the UK has to be 2 years. But for USA, they can get away with a 1 year warranty. Before ExcaliberPC removed all details of the P35K, I remember the warranty only said 1 year (unless it was a typo). I couldn't find anywhere on their FB page where it said how much it costs to upgrade the drives in the USA. They just listed an address and said we'd have to pay their service center to do it.

    Also, on their FB website, they just introduced a 17 inch P27K and said "Who wants to game on a 17" laptop?" And the second reply was from someone saying "Everybody wants the P35K. Not this" LOL :D They can't even get their other products out on time and they are introducing more machines, not to mention their naming scheme is asinine and not even logical. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm not sure how this forum does the whole rep system / like system. My rep power has been plus 1 for awhile so it's either an accumulation of likes and/or posts. Not to worry though, I'm not usually one to think about that sort of thing too much. Thank you though.
     
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    LOL... don't hold back, tell us what you really think. ;)
     
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    He makes a good point, though. Gigabyte has not handled the P35K's rollout in anything resembling a satisfactory manner so far.
     
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    the really need a new marketing team. Cos by the likes of the current team, Gigabyte isn't going to do well again.
     
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    This is the biggest hype and launch failure I have ever witnessed. From end of July to end of August to end of September and now END OF OCTOBER. I have been waiting ages for this, and I have university in 2 weeks time, looks like im getting that XMG C703 although its an inch or two bigger, the portability and specs are the same as the P35k
     
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    Biggest hype and launch failure? Grand Theft Auto V, just saying.
    (For those who don't know it almost got delayed an year)

    Now I agree that gigabyte has been delaying the laptop a lot. F rom Late July to Late September, but I refuse to believe that they are pushing the date back any further. (My dates are based on the USA)

    Gigabyte NB is currently refusing to release any info about the USA on Facebook .
    Which is leading my to believe that
    A. There is a problem with the Laptop.
    B. They are getting ready to announce everything
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    I'm really hoping that B is correct.

    1.They've had a few companies review the P35K, CNET AUS + Korean, and Taiwanese website, etc..*

    2.They've just put up the Drivers for the laptop on their website.



    I'm really hoping that Gigabyte NB is so quiet at the moment due to the fact that there will be a Press Release event soon.
     
  20. David7

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    If the release date is after October then might as well skip this version and get the refresh with maxwell. I believe the delay is because they never had this much demand for their laptop before... and probably never again if they consistently do this. Someone seriously dropped the ball on this one.
     
  21. zipykido

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    Marketing team probably knows as much as we do. My guess is that the design team, or production team screwed something up and that's delaying things.
     
  22. volati1e

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    Grand Theft Auto V? Try Duke Nukem Forever. Due to delays, DNF took 14+ years to get released. Also, it is probably more A than B, especially since ExcaliberPC pulled the links to the P35K on their website. Gigabyte most likely told their Facebook representative to stop giving out any more estimated dates, because even Gigabyte doesn't know for sure when it will get released, and they see that it is just making the customers anxious/angry.

    Seriously, I hope MSI or Asus can hurry up with their slim gaming 15 inchers so we don't have to put up with Gigabyte anymore. The only problem is that I need a machine to tide me over until then.
     
  23. Ordacle

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    Dammit, if only the Razer Blade 14 didn't have such a crappy screen...
     
  24. zipykido

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    Amen to that. It'd be nice if they shrunk down the gs70 to 15" or made the ge40 a little bigger. I think gigabyte overextended their hype but as long as it doesn't become vaporware I think I will hold out until it is released.
     
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    I ordered my laptop from ExcaliberPC, and got the CF1 model.
    I have also installed the following on my laptop.
    - 256GB Plextor M5M SSD
    - 8GB Patriot 1600 DDR3 RAM
    - Intel 7260 AC (Wireless Card)


    I’m going to keep this review as brief as I can, if you have any other questions just ask me and I will do my best to respond back.

    Review

    First Thoughts
    This laptop is impressively slim, the photos online don't do justice. I'm also impressed by Gigabytes quality, they keyboard is fantastic, there's no flex at all on this laptop unless you push G / H with great force. The screen is pretty good, nice viewing angles especially for a TN panel. On a positive note I actually like the Yellow lid now, its a mix of yellow with metallic / gloss finish. The only thing I hate is the chrome but its not that important to me.


    Appearance
    Sleek is one word to describe this laptop. An interesting thing to note is that the battery acts as riser allowing air to come from underneath the laptop. Which is working great so far as I'm barely breaking 40*C by writing this report while waiting for my files to download. (I'm also playing a java game CpS)

    The inside of the laptop is painted black, and its made out of plastic which is meant to look like brushed aluminum. There is no flex present in my laptop, it honestly feels like solid. The only area that flexes is G and H in the keyboard, but only if you push down with great force.


    Keyboard
    In my opinion its one of the best keyboards I have used in a long time on a laptop. (I prefer this keyboard over my roommates macbook pro)
    The keyboard makes a mechanical sound, and you can feel when the key registers. The space bar is flawless its registering all my hits to it from any angle.


    TrackPad
    I don't usually use the track-pad on a laptop, I usually disable it, but I guess I can try to comment on it.

    Its average, its usable and it works.
    The clicks are also fairly good, no randomness from the track pad yet.


    Noise
    Fans
    If the machine is idle, you cant hear the fans.
    Open up Google Chrome and the fans will kick in, but still its noticeable.

    I havent had the chance to hop in a game yet, but I did use MSI afterburner to mess with the fans.

    %20 =
    %60=
    %100=
    Other
    There are no other noises coming out of the laptop / power brick.
    MP3 Jack is fine. (no buzzing)


    Audio:
    External Speakers
    Not the best quality, but they are loud, they easily filled my room up at %100.
    No distortions / rattling. (They still beat my audio from my tv/ monitor.)

    On board Audio
    No hums out of the 3.5mm jack, no weird noises or distortions either.
    The EQ needed some adjusting...
    I also deleted Dolby Audio. I didn't notice a difference with it or without it.

    I'll post my benchmarks later on / battery performance. (thursday)


    Battery
    So far Windows has been saying the laptop has 4-5 hours of battery life while I was browsing the web / downloading updates.
    However as soon as I loaded up CookiesPerSecond, that number dropped to about 3-4 hours. (Im sitting at 60% right now and it says 2 more hours left.)

    No words now just plain numbers for you guys.
    [If this is not updated yet, I haven't had enough time to test it.]
    Brightness 100%, Streaming music / Downloads: Hours

    Brightness 50%, YouTube Videos / Word / Homework: Hours This is just a tad bright for my eyes.

    Brightness 10%, YouTube / Videos / : Hours Personally how I will be using it day to day

    Benchmarking Average: Hours *You can see the performance on battery below

    Temperature
    My current idle temperatures are (Ambient is around 68*F)
    GPU: CPU: SYSTEM:
    When running my machine at %100 CPU / GPU / RAM
    GPU: CPU: SYSTEM:
    *This is with STOCK thermal paste.

    Benchmarks / Performace
    In this section I will be stress testing and benchmarking my machine aka pushing it to the limits, if you have any programs you want me to run please PM me.
    *On battery means I tested its performance on battery, and if it says plugged in it was connected to a power source.
    CPU
    On Battery
    LinX
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU:


    Plugged In
    CineBench
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU:

    LinX
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU:

    PCMark 7
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU:

    GPU
    Plugged In
    3D Mark v110:
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU: FPS:

    Unigine Heaven Benchmark
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU: FPS:

    Furmark:
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU: FPS:


    Battery
    Unigine Heaven Benchmark
    Score: Temperature: GPU: CPU: FPS:

    Games
    Battlefield 4 - 1920x1080 (online)
    Ultra: FPS. GPU. CPU.
    High: FPS. GPU. CPU.

    TombRaider Ultra

    Civilization V ultra
     
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    This why gigabyte declined at the portable pc area. I'm hoping for a slim version their XPS 15, MSI and asus ones
     
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    Here's hoping.
     
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    Comparing a game that has been in development for 5 years to a laptop that costs 31x more and a failure to release it not once, not twice not three times but now the fourth. Fans may be disappointed with GTA V getting delayed, but with developers and team like Rockstar Games, they know what to expect, and that is not disappointment. Its coming out in a day or 2 but the Gigabyte P35k/P34g? no one knows.

    You refuse to believe? well that is your opinion, but why would the resellers not even have it up for purchase or even pre-order and some have taken it down from there websites. But how would Gigabyte make more sales when the retailers don't even know when they will receive stock, Camtech told me that they will receive stock 2 weeks ago but they told me it got delayed by Gigabyte and that they had to recall the stock. If I was you, I wouldn't get any high hopes expecting it the following 2-3 weeks, even 1 month.... Unless Gigabyte are preparing for a shock announcement,
     
  29. go45cvi

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    You'll have awhile to wait. Haswell's successor Broadwell will not be released until 2015 (and who knows about intel delays). This is probably why the haswell rollout has been so slow, that and W8.1, ivy stock lying around.

    Sorry, I guess maxwell is gpu. Disregard post.
     
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    OCUK Slipped to the 5th of Oct The other UK Supplier has gone very quiet.
     
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    Since we already waited so long I just feel that the more we wait the more out dated the current tech is going to be by the time it is released. There are already rumors of Maxwell GPU being released in Q1 of 2014.


    Hmm....I thought UK had the earliest release date out of everyone. Guess not. Hope US gets it earlier. =/
     
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    US is probably going to get it probably a week after UK. Worse case is end of October....or never. =(
     

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    Well has hit the fan gigabyte confirmed it won't be out before October for the USA, due to customs troubles.

    Gigabyte stated that they don't want to release a date, because they don't want to disappoint us.
    So who knows what this means for the UK...

    How is the W230st?
    What are some other 15inchers to consider?
     
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    Where did you read this?

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    The above screencap of their Facebook. But that may be in reference to just the P25W and there are other extenuating issues with P35K itself with gets a separate reply from another sub-inquiry.
     
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    It´s the second time someone posts that, but I keep seeing the 04-10...
     
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    probably me in both instances :)
     
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    We're already disappointed. They might as well be as transparent as possible at this point or else people are just going to be more frustrated and move onto another produce. I'm going to give them another two weeks since school has already started and I need to update my current dying laptop.

    The 15" ultraportables seems few a far between. I can't really think of another thin and light system in this category. At 15" you either have 750m or lower ultrabooks or 770m or higher desktop replacements. Of course there's the msi gs70 which is also very thin but 17" but may not be a bad option since it's super thin.
     
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    I completely agree.....I'm off to buy some radishes and cauliflower.
     
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    ho ho ho
    /boom tish
     
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    According to Sinchen Lin over at Youtube ( Gigabyte P35K ; comments section) who seems to have received a pre-release edition: general CPU GPU at 50 degrees. Boost and play crysis both 90 degrees.

    I would have expected the gaming temp to not reach 90 given dual fans.
     
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    SURELY it's just a problem with the prerelease.

    ¯\_()_/¯

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    Care to explain? or should I assume you're just talking without knowing to discourage buyers or something?
    thermals-e1374889247199.png
    90 degrees for the gpu though, if true, is a little weird.
     
  45. zipykido

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    45-50 Idle isn't bad for laptops. Although my current laptop is 43deg with some light usage and it's 5 years old. When I play Dota 2 though it usually doesn't go about 70deg for either GPU/CPU. 90 degrees is concerning though, I wouldn't want that anywhere near my lap and depending on where the chip is located it might be uncomfortable to type on. It might be worth voiding your warranty day 1 and putting in your own thermal paste as well as adding your own msata drives.
     
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    That's what I was trying to say. The image shows idle temperatures for the w230st, which has the same hardware, and it's also around 50 deg.

    in any case, you're comparing different architectures.... so it doesn't say much, because specifications and cooling systems are different.
    what we can in fact say is:
    -90 deg load for the gpu is more than other laptops with the same hard.
    -90 deg for the cpu is still under the max specified by intel of 100 deg. Other notebooks achieve similar temps, so it's not a big surprise.
     
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    Yeah... 50c at idle is on the high side. And 90c can cook an egg. That's the kind of temp you'd expect from a heavily overclocked desktop cpu on a stock heatsink.

    Hehehe and why would I "discourage buyers?" LIKE ZOMG GIGABYTE IS TEH WORST!!!!1! Gigabyte is in the same position ASUS was a few years ago when they entered the laptop market so I'm not too worried.

    I'm still going to buy this laptop if I can find it already configured with raid 0.

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    But then again... This is still all speculation at this point. There's no reason debating these claims without checking out the redesigned release product.

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    If its even just speculation its pretty good compared to its contenders.

    The Razer Blade (14) gets around 46*C -51 *C idle. CPU 88*C - 93*C max

    etc...

    CPU's are built to withstand high heat, = less chance it will break.
    Also they have automatic shut off temps, so don't worry.

    I'm more interested in knowing if they keyboard will get sizzling hot during gaming.
     
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    Not sure if has been posted yet, but theres 2 models up on overclockers.co.uk site of the P35K and one model of the P34G

    Cheaper P35k model is £1199.99 inc VAT, around $1900 USD or $2050 AUD.

    P34G model costs £1159.99 inc VAT, $1850 USD or $1980 AUD.

    Prices are looking pretty damn high at the moment, but EU prices tend to be significantly more expensive than in the US, so we may "possibly" see the P35K for $1600. If prices aren't cheaper than it looks like i'll be going with the W230st or waiting out for the ASUS G46vw refresh, the G46VR.

    P35K Models:

    Cheaper: Gigabyte P35K UltraBlade Gamer 15.6" LED TFT, Intel Core i7-4700HQ, 8GB DDR3, 128GB SSD & 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 765M 2048MB GDDR5 - Windows 8 Laptop [P35K-CF2]
    More Expensive: Gigabyte P35K UltraBlade Extreme 15.6" LED TFT, Intel Core i7-4700HQ, 16GB DDR3, 2x 128GB SSD RAID & 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 765M 2048MB GDDR5, Blu-Ray Writer - Windows 8 Laptop [P35K-CF4]

    P34G:
    Gigabyte P34G UltraBlade Gamer 14" LED TFT, Intel Core i7-4700HQ, 8GB DDR3, 128GB SSD & 750GB 5400RPM HDD, NVIDIA GTX 760M 2048MB GDDR5 - Windows 8 Laptop [P34G-CF1]
     
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