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    new Gigabyte P35K

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by [-Mac-], Jun 2, 2013.

  1. likebutta

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    Excaliberpc.com p35k's product page is now showing a date (but still not able to pre-order) of: Sep 27, 2013
     
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    September 19 for the lower end one!
     
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    Good catch. I didn't even bother to think about the versions; I have just been refreshing all the places in the US that are supposed to be selling them and I have them all set on the higher end versions if applicable.
     
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    Can anybody comment on the build quality of gigabyte laptop in general?
     
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    If it's like their motherboards it will be great
     
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    Excellent. Look exactly like what I'm looking for. Looking forward to seeing UK pricing on this one.
     
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    Uk prices are up on the ocuk site

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 4
     
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    1k pounds converts to 1560 USD. Unless this laptop gets amazing reviews I'll probably pass. Cost to performance ratio + portability not worth it imo.
     
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    /me is joining the waiting list. it's either this or NP8265 :p
     
  10. BlkKnight

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    That is not what this laptop is about.

    If you want bang for buck - go for a clevo. You're paying a premium for design

    J
     
  11. Kallogan

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    damn ! Full hd, 765M, thin, four drives configuration, huge 75Wh battery, dual fan cooling, stereo speakers on top and subwoofer etc...Looks like the ultimate laptop !!!!

    £1,260.00 argh, this hurts but it looks like a damn fine rig anyway.
     
  12. likebutta

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    I agree. Honestly, I probably expect to pay just short of $2,000 CAD when it's all said and done (shipping, duty, taxes, upper tier p35K version). I'm certainly not paying solely for it's internal specs; I can get better for a lot less. But that would mean getting some big and chunky like a Sager. Unfortunately, they are behind the times when it come to designing laptop form factors. This is the ultimate in compromise in regards to performance and portability, in my personal view.
     
  13. edwardamin13

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    as you said, P35K it's a great compromise to performance, portability, and looks.
    But I think guessing Sager/Clevo is just focusing on other aspects beside looks/design. They are stronger in performance/price aspect but slightly sacrificing look.
    I'm considering NP8265 and honestly, it doesn't look "that" bad :)
     
  14. Turkz1

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    Hi guys, I know I am not the only one that is disappointed with the constant delays so I was looking around for a laptop that equivalent specs and I found one which is to be released on 16th of this month meaning in 9 days. The laptop is slightly bigger then the P35k screen wise but the portability, weight is very impressive with the specifications to match the P35k. I will write it below for anyone interested:

    Processor 4th Gen. Intel Core i7 (Haswell)
    Screen 17.3" (43.9cm) Full-HD 1920x1080 Matte
    Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M
    Features mSATA SSD opt. | backlit Keyboard
    Dimensions W418mm x D287mm x H21mm
    Product Weight 2.6kgs
    Battery Life Upto 6hrs

    (It has a 128gb SATA SSD+ 1TB HDD which can be customised)

    Price:

    Grand Total Excl. VAT £1,077.51
    Tax £215.50
    Grand Total Incl.VAT £1,293.01
    Subtotal (Excl. VAT) £1,077.51
    Subtotal (Incl. VAT) £1,293.01


    Also few images:

    http://www.mysn.de/images/prod/11_XMG_C703_glow.jpg

    http://www.mysn.eu/shop/media/catal...6e5fb8d27136e95/1/5/15_xmg_c703_detail_04.jpg

    http://mysn.co.uk/shop/media/catalo...6e5fb8d27136e95/1/2/12_xmg_c703_detail_01.jpg

    http://mysn.co.uk/shop/media/catalo...5fb8d27136e95/1/0/10_xmg_c703_back_closed.jpg

    http://pcfoster.pl/public/images/others/image/aktualnosci/13-wrzesien/07_xmg_c703_closed_right.jpg



    From my understanding, this is a rebranded MSI GS70 stealth but cheaper, more affordable and 6 hour battery life is very good for the specs and screen.

    Edit: These are the exact laptop that I have chosen:

    1 x 17.3" (43.9cm) Full-HD 1920x1080 Matte £0.00
    Graphics Card
    1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M 2048MB GDDR5 £0.00
    Processor
    1 x Intel Core i7-4700HQ Quad Core - 2.40 - 3.40GHz 6MB 47W £0.00
    Thermal Compound
    1 x Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound £0.00
    Memory
    1 x 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1600MHz £0.00
    Hard Drive
    1 x 1000GB SATA-III 7200rpm HGST Travelstar 7K1000 (HTS721010A9E630) £29.17
    mSATA Drive 1
    1 x 128GB mSATA SSD Samsung PM841 (MZMTD128HAFV) £92.50
    Optical Drive
    1 x No External Optical Drive £0.00
    WIFI Card
    1 x Killer Wireless-N 1202 (with Bluetooth) - With driver CD £19.17
    Keyboard
    1 x Backlit Keyboard UK English £0.00
    Warranty
    1 x Standard Warranty : 24 Month Collect & Return (inc parts, labour, support, shipping) £0.00
    Operating System
    1 x No Operating System £0.00
    Office Software
    1 x Microsoft Office 365 30-day trial version (only when Windows 7 or 8 is ordered) £0.00
    Power Cable
    1 x UK Power Cable £0.00

    I know there is no OS as I chose to install my own when if I choose to go with this laptop. If the P35k is delayed further or costing more in the UK even when the money convert value is unfair then I have no choice to go with this laptop, although without IPS screen its good value for money and portability wise.
     
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    @Turkz1
    It isn't really much cheaper for me when converted to AUD.. 1124 GBP pretty much converts to $2000 in AUD so theres still no point in me buying it T_T Was really hoping to get the GS70 until the prices came out~
     
  16. Doffe

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    This is indeed going to be a beautiful machine.

    I just noticed that the trackpad is located to the left. Never had it like that - all my laptops had it centered. Had anyone have any experience if that could become a problem for typing?
     
  17. Turkz1

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    It is generally priced 50% more in the UK including the tax as well. In the US it should be re-branded and cost around $1500
     
  18. dalingrin

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    The touchpad is centered with the qwerty keyboard. Might be easier to think of it as centered over the spacebar which seems preferable to putting the touchpad towards the right where your arm would be directly over while typing.
     
  19. itsmeee

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    but isn't XMG a European company? o_O Is it one of those smaller companies like Origin PC etc that just rebrand laptops? but either way, I still think it'll be too high for my price range :( Though I would love to get that machine over this one~ especially for the big screen size and RGB keyboard :D
     
  20. JonathonW

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    Just ordered it from Overclockers.co.uk for £1199.99 and looking forward to putting it through it's paces in early October.
     
  21. cybernick01

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    Did you by any chance ask to OCUK or Camtech if they would upgrade before shipping?
     
  22. darth_poopie

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    According to the OCUK forum, that's a negative

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
  23. Turkz1

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    Fair enough, XMG is an European company, it aint known as much as MSI/ASUS/SONY etc but thats due to it being in the premium high end gaming laptops just like Clevo, Sager and Origin are. I think Sager or Clevo may relaunch it re branded just as XMG has done. You know what, I was looking at Gigabyte Facebook today and saw something which disappointed me regarding its battery life. Although its running Powermark and with brightness set to 50% I would of expected a better battery life as its considered more of a portability.

    "GIGABYTE NB Hi xxxxx, according to a recent test on CNET AUS - running Powermark, 50% brightness (normal mode) time, the P35K ran for 3 hrs and 7 mins."
     
  24. cybernick01

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    Actually I think XMG, Shenker (MySN) even Sager and many others use Clevo's barebones for their machines. Then there's also Origin and Xcalibur PC or something like that that *also* rebrand for MSI/ASUS and stuff.
    Didn't know that bench, do you have any other result to compaire? Say a Clevo w230ST or the razer? Because if it is a little intensive I thinks it's not that bad.
     
  25. JonathonW

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    Owch. I was hoping for much better than that. Ideally 6 hours to cover a long train journey. A 75.81Wh battery should surely do better than 3 hours??
     
  26. likebutta

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    Could be some other unknown variables but honestly, "benchmarks" are a bit of a passe thing and to be taken with a relatively grain of salt. Real world usage is what really counts.
     
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    It's an issue of acclimation. I go back and forth between a Sony Vaio S15 (trackpad left of center) and a Lenovo ThinkPad T430s (centered). Definitely miss the buttons from the ThinkPad when I'm on the Vaio, but you get used to it after a while.
     
  28. Kallogan

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    My asus N550JV with only 59Wh battery was giving 4 hours of battery life stock. After a few tweaks, putting ad blockers plugins in firefox, putting a ssd and swapping the power hog Atheros wifi card for an intel one, i now have 7 hours of solid battery life of web browsing/watching videos ( and 10 hours idling with wifi on and 50% brightness).

    So a 75,81Wh battery should beat that unless there is crap*y drivers or components or maybe a power hog screen. Benchmarks are an indication but there's room for improvement.
     
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    I didn't know the N550JV. I'm liking it so far. But to be fair, should pass it a powermark to make this comparison valid.
    BTW, how many HD slots does it have?
     
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    i'd like to test powermark but it seems to be only for enterprise and press, there are no free version. The N550JV has only one sata slot which is fine for me. You can put a HDD in a optical caddy bay eventually. There are some pretty affordable 500GB ssd now anyway. Of course, 2 sata slots is better but let's say it, 4 sata slots is becoming ridiculous except for very specific usage maybe. 4 drives is a battery killer.
     
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    A few things to note:
    Powermark "normal mode" I assume to correspond to the default "balanced" test profile. The Powermark balanced profile splits the test between gaming, web browsing, and videos. So 3hr 6mins @ 50% brightness is actually pretty good. The MSI GS70 gets 2hrs on the same test @ 50% brightness. Meanwhile, from other websites, I've seen that the MSI GS70 gets around 4.5-5.5hrs of battery life with just web browsing. Considering the GS70 is mostly the same hardware it is likely that the battery life of the P35K will scale by roughly the same factor of 2 while just browsing, so that's ~6hrs. My hunch is that it is likely to get a bit more than that a low brightness and wifi power settings though I think its highly doubtful that you could get more than 7 hrs.

    One negative to note is that the P35K fan noise was rather high at 53db when gaming.

    Sources: MSI GS70 Review - Laptop & Notebook computers
    MSI GS70 Review | Gaming Laptop Reviews
     
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    Really useful man.
    Isn't it a little weird for them to have those fan P35K benchs without the corresponding review?
     
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    Yes it is very wierd.
    Thanks for posting your source.
    Also I may remind you guys that NB Gigabyte stated last week that we may hear news this week or by next week.

    Also to add to the PowerMark list,
    The razer Blade (14) got 172 minutes (2.9ish hours) of juice according to Battery Life, Power Consumption & Portability Index : Razer Blade 14-inch (2013) - A Step Closer to Gaming Notebook Perfection - HardwareZone.com.ph.
    Please note however that they did not list what settings they ran it at.

    Anyways I hope that those benches are true, it looks sweet.
     
  34. go45cvi

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    Any chance this beast will support 15mm drives or do I have to wait for these lazy hdd oems to finally make a 2TB 12mm?
     
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    4 sata slots is not ridiculous, you can use 2 mSATA slots for Operating Systems in a RAID0 configuration, one 2.5" bay to big HDD and one 2.5" bay to ODD.
    This is the best configuration that today you could wish.
     
  36. dalingrin

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    Well I think it could be argued that 2 mSATA drives in RAID0 is ridiculous. j/k :hi2:
     
  37. Chyl

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    Excaliber pulled P35k and P34g off their website???
     
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    It is no longer listed with the Gigabyte systems, but the old link from my browser history still works. Hope this doesn't mean that it is delayed yet again, but with Gigabyte, this would not surprise me at all.
     
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    need more than 2x1TB 9mm?
    I prefer the 2 more HDD rather than the ODD (haven't used one in years).
    In any case, it's got 1 more HDD with less weight than the ASUS.

    where you talking about this post?

    I don't know if I can trust his info after that. xD
     
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    I sincerely hope that that review out of nowhere is biaised. Battery life and noise seem awful. 53db is terrible. My asus tops at 40db.

    Let's wait for a proper review.

    Edit : Battery life may be in fact very good since the P35K is the best performer among the 5 laptops. Seems to me that the powermark bench is quite heavy on battery.

    As for noise, it's high but is probably worst case scenario. Haswell has brought back undervolting via XTU. It helps a lot temps and noise. Also you can always put a framerate limiter on gpu via nvidia inspector when you want silence and low power consumption.
     
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    Well, I want to leave the bluray burner in, but still have 2TB. Maybe the 9.5mm will be out by the time I can afford this.
     
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    Take a look here. I thought I'd seen a 2TB 9mm Hitachi also...
     
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    I have a question about this IPS panel. What is the screen response time on it, what type of IPS (most likely e-IPS)? Couldn't find any technical specs for the screen out there. Anybody know?
     
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    Has anyone communicated with ExcaliberPC about this notebook since they put up dates?

    I e-mailed them but got no response as of yet. It worries me that the models aren't searchable anymore, I was really hoping for that Sept. 19th date for the CF1 model.
     
  46. zipykido

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    I emailed them too. I'm guessing that it got pushed back even further. They even had it advertised on one of the front page banners but that link was broken.
     
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    The Gigabyte NB Facebook page says that release dates for the UK are looking like "closer to Oct" now, so it wouldn't surprise me if it is October or even later for USA. Seems kind of like a broken record now that they would say "end of July" then "end of August" then "end of September". :rolleyes:
     
  48. Retroceded

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    The release date for the UK has always been October.
    I asked a while back about it, and I was told it would be the first or second week of October,
    Kinda sucks since I'm still gonna go without a laptop for two weeks since school starts the 22nd.

    USA is supposed to be released right about now.
     
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    Seems you missed my post here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gigabyte/720395-new-gigabyte-p35k-29.html#post9364591

    I think the review numbers are right where I would expect this laptop to be. 3 hours for mixed gaming, videos, and web browsing at 50% brightness is respectable. Should translate to something close to 5 hours +/- 30 mins when just web browsing.

    As for the noise, I wouldn't expect a notebook with dual fan cooling in a <21mm case with a 47watt TDP CPU and a 65watt TDP GPU to be quiet. :p
     
  50. likebutta

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    You never know... I mean, look at what is happening with the PS4. North America is getting first dibs on the PS4, where as Japan, the motherland of Sony and usually the ones to get it early, won't be able to get the PS4 till February 2014 according to a recent statement by Sony.

    (wishful thinking) Maybe Jiggabyte is following the same train of thought. (/wishful thinking)
     
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