new Gigabyte P35K

Not inside the casing, no. The warranty brochure in the box itself is minimal in terms of legalese. Even harder to come by off of Gigabyte's web site itself. I had to e-mail EXcaliber and Gigabyte directly and ask for the full document.

 

Can you stick it up when (if) you get it.

 

I paid 1541 from Gentech and got the 256 (2 SSD raid option) and upgraded the wireless card to the the intel ac 7260 (something like that) which is still less than buying the CF2 which only offers a 128 gig ssd and 4 gigs more ram. I used the student discount though and would have only saved ~30 if I hadn't. I didn't see the cheap SSD option at xoticpc, but they would be cheaper if you were paying in cash for the base laptop. My only concern is that the SSDs might be cheap OEMs. I don't want to go through the hassle of constantly crashing because I plan on Raid 0 for storage for programs and OS.

I'm pretty sure there are only 2 mSata ports, 1 regular HDD sata III ports and 1 ODD bay. You could get up to 3 terabytes of storage, 2 512 gig msata SSDs and 1 regular terabyte drive and 1 in the ODD bay. You could also put SSDs in the regular HDD bays too I suppose but that seems like overkill. Also the stock HDD is a 5400 rpm sata II drive which is quite slow, you're better off not getting it and putting your own 7200 RPM sata III drive in.

 

Does anybody know if the P35K is available to purchase in UK anywhere other than Camtech and Overclockers? I have no issues with either company, but I'm looking for what configuration options are available. And more chance of there being one in stock!

 

Ok Mr. High and Mighty (since you're down to edge-wise pot shots now). We've had nothing but multiple confirmations via Facebook from Gigabyte reps saying that while RAM is upgradable, the rest is covered by warranty stickers and must be done at the service centers. You say, "show me the fine print" as if we're in a position to do so; if you know for a fact, why don't you show us proof - that there isn't any warranty stickers - ? What? You don't have proof either? Yes, we're very impressed with your machismo when it comes to handling sales and tech support. Tell us more

While I appreciate Gentechpc's showing us the P34G, it does not exactly mean P35K.

 

Thanks Hennyo. That's pretty nice; definitely would have been nice to see something like that included with the P35K.

 

Uh, no, that was a direct pot shot, not an "edge-wise" one and if they're not on my P34G by what logic would they be on the P35K? As opposed to "reps" (that's a euphemism) on social media sites (yeah, they're completely on the inside, up to speed, just like sales reps are on release dates [not]), I'm going to go with my exchanges directly to technical support.

 

If I were to upgrade specs, I would upgrade RAM, storage and the wireless card. But am I mistaken in saying Gentech charges some pretty okay prices to do the same for you? Have looked at prices for the last two (storage and wireless), and they seem like they are only charging a little extra ($5-$10) of the product itself to put do it for you.

Forgetting warranty, I'd be willing to pay that just to save the hassle of doing it myself!

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Think the larger issue, beyond cost, would be delivery time, how many days would they add to do that for you? Can't speak to Gentech, but on my original order from Xotic they said 5-10 business days for customizations. I guess I'd ask, make a decision from there.

 

The intel wireless cards were about the same price as buying OEM. Ram is easy enough to do by yourself so I would wait until there's a sale and buy it yourself. The 256 gig SSD option was a steal at $70 per 128 gig card (black Friday prices). You could get better deals elsewhere fore most of the upgrades imo.

 

I've been following the release of this laptop for a little bit now, was wondering if someone could help me out with some laptop configuration suggestions.

Is the panel worth an upgrade? One poster also alluded to better panels potentially being put in a couple months from now, is that possible?
Is upgrading memory from 8GB to 12GB or 16GB worth it for an average gamer / everyday user?
I'm interested in using a SSD + Hard Drive combination, but with so many options I'm not sure what would be best.. Should I strictly just go with SSD for performance?

I appreciate any responses!
Thanks

 

Hmmm... no warranty tags that I can see over the drive or the memory...

Oh? You mean like the ones back on page 65 of this very thread?

 

Ahh I'm okay with the delay my friend isn't coming from the US to my place until November the 12th anyway so I'm already in for a bit of a wait haha. Still waiting for an Anandtech review though!

Yep! Looking at the dual band of the stock one, same price. Agreed on the RAM! But as for the SSD - I don't even know what would be a good buy! Haha price wise or quality for that matter. Where were these black Friday prices? Newegg? I'm so lost. Thank you for all your help though guys, you've been so great!

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Logic? Logic dictates they are different products. Logic dictates that you machismo "exchanges" with technical support are about your P34G product. I'm still waiting on your "proof", since you come off as knowing with 100% certainty that what you say is true.

Honda Civic = Honda Accord. Right? Everything that applies to the Civic must therefore apply to the Accord, because it's a Honda.

 

Nice try but that is known to be an early revision model that the guy got. AKA for testing and early review. Same goes with the one that CNET.au got. Not to mention it's already known that the RAM is user replaceable, so I'm not even sure why you're mentioning it.

 

I think xoticpc has an panel change. You get a TN panel (worse viewing angles) but apparently the color gamut is better. The default panel is AHVA which is comparable to IPS which has the best viewing angles. I've never seen them side by side but you can't go wrong with default panel. As for ram, 8 gigs is plenty for normal usage and normal gaming. You don't really need more than 8 unless you're doing movie encoding or photoshopping large raw files. For storage I would suggest and SSD for a boot drive and programs. This laptop has 2 msata ports, so you could get a single 256 gig msata drive (pricier than regular 2.5" SSD) and still have a large HDD for storing files. Which is probably your best bet for performance (fast boot and load times but also enough storage). You could get away with 128 gig msata drive as well and regular HDD and put your games on the HDD since they tend to be large and you don't get huge performance boots in games using an SSD except for loading levels.

I've been following SSD prices for a couple of years now. A really good deal on an SSD is about 50 cents/gig for a regular 2.5" SSD. I think the samsung evo 250 gig hard drive has been as low as $140. mSata is usually higher, a really good deal is about 70 cents/gig (haven't seen really good deals in while). Prices aren't dropping dramatically anymore which kind of sucks but the larger drives, 512 gig/1 terabyte are also approaching 50 cents/gig. For SSDs, make sure you stick with brand names samsung, intel, crucial, adata, toshiba, etc. You won't see real world performance differences despite what the benchmarks say so don't get caught up in 300 mb/s vs 500 mb/s. Reliability and price should be your major concerns when buying.

 

Looking at the list of ssd, the mushkin atlas 256GB seems to give the best performance, if I'm not wrong, with the highest read/write speeds.
Unless you are rendering, or running VMs, I do not see a reason in going for more than 8gb.

Reliability. Can you elaborate on that and share some info? What's considered reliable, what isn't?

 

You guys are so super helpful. Thank you so much!

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There was a big issue a year-ish ago where OCZ drives, mainly agility and vortex 3's, dying within a few months of usage. Typically these days with the samsung evo 840's and crucial m500 line you shouldn't have a huge problem. But back then it was maybe 10%-20% of drives just failing to work properly or dying within a year of operation. Also there was an issue with sandforce controllers, which caused a lot of the drive failures. I think firmware upgrades have fixed that to an extent. Large companies used their own controllers so it wasn't a big problem. Just things to keep in mind if you buy an older SSD. SSDs also have a maximum amounts of read/write cycles before they just get worn out. Under typical usage you shouldn't worry with the newer drives since the lifetime on their memory is longer than the life cycle of your computer.

Of course any hard drive can fail at any time including mechanical ones so it's always a good idea to backup your data. Also in a raid 0 (which is what GentechPC sells) setup, if one of the drives fails, you lose access to the data on both. That's why I'd recommend only using them for boot drive and programs. If you have a single msata for boot drive then then failing would suck just as much. I hope I didn't scare you away from buying an SSD. Don't let the possibility of bad drives stop you from buying them since the performance gain is well worth it and backing up data usually remedies most problems.

 

Nice try? How about this? How about you do like I've done. Pick up the keyboard, pick up the phone, e-mail or call Gigabyte sales, technical support and customer service direct and ask them? Or would going direct to the source be too "machismo?" I'm willing to bet the cost of this base unit that I'm right and your'e wrong, want to take that wager?

In fact, for the record, here's what I specifically asked:

“I have a P34G, I’m thinking of buying a P35K as well. Lots of confusion about whether or not I can, or cannot, upgrade the memory, the hard disk(s) or the wireless card without breaking the support warranty. Can I or not? If so, for which items am I allowed to upgrade myself? For which items can I not? Is that documented somewhere?”

Wanna know the answers I got? "As long as you don't break anything during the course of your upgrade, the warranty holds." And that was specifically asked for each of hard drive, memory and the wireless card. As to the inquiry of where is that documented? It's not - their answer and my inference both. Thus the "machismo" about push comes to shove on the warranty.

We done?

 

On subject and actual taking the information as it's received, instead of guessing....

This is the latest from Gigabyte's NB Facebook page:

 

I just found out Gentech removed the cheap raid config from the P35K. Damn it was a miss!

 

The only fact you've offered so far is Gigabyte reps on their Facebook page. Readily accessible is the pics from page 65 of this thread showing no warranty tags, no warranty tags on my P34G and multiple exchanges with Gigabyte Support via e-mail and on the phone attesting to my assertions.

 

Hmm I called up Gigabyte in the USA and talked to their technical support.
They said it is not okay to make repairs on the laptop, but it's fine too swap out an HDD if you do not damage anything. And that the general warranty that they up hold comes down too if you cause the damage.

I would not trust Gigabyte NB on Facebook.
1. How many times has he or she led us with false release dates?
2. They told me the P35K came we a sleeve, it does not, but they did apologize for giving me that info.
3. He or she stated that the only upgradable part was RAM, but when Questioned about it he or she has to go look it up?
4. p35K has already released in the UK and no comment yet from them.p about it.

I don't know but to me it sounds like that person is majorly misinformed.

We could really use a Britt right now to settle this issue so you guys can quit fighting.

 

Thank you. Right now my best guess stateside is, given shipment from the Pac Rim, EXcaliber will have the unit sooner than Xotic or Gentech, just as with the P34G.

 

That is true. But it's the only information we really have to go by for now. Unless someone else who owns it or Gigabyte can come out in a more official capacity than their Facebook page, it's not 100% certain either way.

 

Found a comment online, link at the bottom

"Mine arrived this morning (P35K), thanks for the fast delivery and sweets

Laptop is fantastic. Slimmer and lighter than my MBP whilst being exceptionally faster with a somewhat similar battery time of around 5.5-6 hours. Materials and build quality are good, feels like a proper premium laptop and looks the part. No issues with keyboard, feels and looks like an apple one.

Screen is DECENT. Maybe I'm spoilt by my monitor but it isn't the greatest IPS I've seen colour wise but still pleasing to look at and with solid viewing angles.

To put into perspective how well valued this is as a light powerful notebook, go configure a MBP, realise its over 2500 and still not as well specced as this laptop. Its a bargain.

Would recommend"

** LATEST GIGABYTE LAPTOPS NOW AVAILABLE FROM OcUK INCLUDING P35K / P34G!! ** - Page 4 - Overclockers UK Forums

 

Excellent. I'm glad to hear the keyboard panned out. I was probably most concerned about that aspect. Ouch at the picture of the damaged boxes though.

 

ordered mine from gentech. cost me $1724.

 

Does anyone know where the subwoofer is located?

 

What did you end up upgrading?

 

So xoticpc shows the highest end configuration of the P35k as having the gtx 770M. Is this correct?

 

No, where are you finding this info?

 

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Cool!

One lock stop! You do not need to (I think) open this up before changing odd to hard drives. [I think, just in case that matters to anyone]. It's just a lock and unlock. Which is darn sweet. So I hope to clear that up for people.

It reads E for "eject," with a two way in&out arrow on it.

1) Attach 2) Attach



Oh, there's the monitor shot (screen cable) below the right (or left when in normal laptop use position) fanblade. I wonder how many pins it is.
- same optical connection is on the p34 left hand side.

Would've been nice if Gentech would share that from his p34 video as well. ; ) 40 pin or 30 pin... I don't know... It comes right out (just pull) and push back in.

Also, for those with 8gig it makes sense to go with 16 gig. Or you're running in single channel (because there's only one ram stick to read/write to, as opposed to dual channel)... Which lowers (by about 20%) your CPU /(and by proxy your GPU when both silicon are stressed) score/ aka performance.,

For example, single channel will reduce your futuremark 11 p -performance/productivity- score by 400-600 points if you're only in single channel RAM usage. Also, your cinebench scores (which are an ideal indication of typical performance) will tank.... Badly tank. Dual channel has been the standard since C2duo, do not feed single channel / 1 RAM stick to your cpu.

Skylake comes with mobile quad channel, but the difference it makes remains to be seen (and most might not even use it because of form factor. Triple channel with i7 Nehalem didn't do that much (like 4-6%), but I have a feeling skylake (and the refesh, which I hop on next for my next laptop upgrade - 10nm skylake mobile hex/core 16nm - or maybe wait for 10nm gpu core. Depends on how this seems to run by that time.

Which is it? 30 pin or 40 pins? Come on, you guys know this needs a screen upgrade.

I included the last two pictures because I thought they look pretty. That battery life.. MHhmm Just what I need over the course of this laptop

 

Oh, cool, Look where the subwoofer nestles! Wherein that little slot, the white, right, pcb-conjoining ribbon is, in this picture!

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Cool, props; props gigabyte. I know it's a "gaming" laptop but you should have included a better screen ; and asymmetric fan blades. Other than that, your job is fine. I know it's easier to market performance (in the pc universe) to gamers, but you're so close to a top-notch user experience. Just those two things, ..... just those two things.

And maybe work on your touchpad, - though only if there's time -. That looks largely ok. But if you could put in an ATIV book 9 clickpad (as close to mac as possible), with those two things, you could (even further more) charge a lot more for laptops like this. There's no reason physical dimensions or space - wise you couldn't have done this either. All you would've had to do was: employ different parts.

(Reviews would sell the product itself) Think APPL If you're looking for new advice in the laptop space, I think that's the best anyone could give you.

Maybe in the future.

Nice and light.

I think it's really admirable they put that in. They deserve a lauding for that. But I would have had a better screen.

Back to that monitor pin: could someone give me the information?

 

It's 40 pin:

 

Apple might have "a glued in battery", but you'd have a replaceable one. And you could certainly compete on price. And volume. -- probably. If you think you got it right.

I would go for it. There's not that much to lose.
It's worth thinking about.

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All the more likely to be compatible. I won't ask about it now. I'm quite sure the - much closer to IPS - not even getting to the resolution yet) 3200 x 1800 screens are quite compatible with this. P34g looks to be sealed then. Now wait a couple months to see when Sharps' 3840 x 2400 panel trickles down. We're waiting for demand from manufacturers (who have balls, like Apple, as much as I am beginning to love and hate them nowadays - largely because of their --honest to god US governement esque -- attempt at monopolizing all such things worldwide such as 20nm production -or at least what matters anyways - all the bulk production -) to bring (create) more of a supply with.

Obviously it goes without saying; no one likes Apples' IP attitude. Especially their modern one. We need manufacturers' like Gigabyte to step up. And clearly they've shown the potential (and dare I say capacity and enthusiasm) in the laptop space.

Make better products, charge a bit more, eat up (you could be the main consolidators) of the non APPL PC market. You know, that 50% of the PC market that wants elegance and performance, but doesn't want to spend 2200$ + tax on Apple products, financially or perhaps to seal the deal morally.

Just do some good analysis of APPL costs to doing business. You want to know what you're competing with. Somebody needs to grab the tiger by it's tail, and again. Gigabyte has shown it could (possibly) do this in the laptop space.

Samsung = smartphone space. [Nice 'Round' phone by the way].

That became a rant.

There might be space for gigabyte AIB's to score big on some products over this next generation. [maybe two or three]. After that, unfortunately everybody (or at least the market) will probably be wearing smart watches.

Chipping comes 5-10 years after that. Depending on how long it takes for government or the population to dictate, or falter.

 

How are you guys finding the strength of the chassis in terms of strength / torsional rigidity etc

 

Hey people,

Sorry if this has been already asked/answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find any info on it or conclusive answers, so here goes:
in the p35k that comes with a dvd drive is it possible to replace the dvd drive it with a sata slimline internal laptop blu-ray drive and replace the bezel with the one on the p35k already?

I've just had mine and so far can't say i've tried bending it or flexing it, but it seems pretty solid. The only thing is there is a small amount of flex on the upper left hand side of the kb. Other than that I'm pretty impressed tbf.

 

I was curious about that too. I can't tell if it's much above average.

I'm sure it feels very nice though (is that a correct assumption, BlkKnight, Voodoo172?).
Didn't the carrier damage/bend your box?

Guess what! We're in business guys!

THIS IS SHARPS connector, which I counted as 40 pin! This means that 14.0 inch identical displays WILL be out for the P34g. In force, very soon.



Consider this computer, transfigured.. Soon. ; ) 3200 x 1800 panel for sure fits. Now.... wait till the MacBOOK Pro retina to know if the 3840x2400 (15.6) panel will fit. If it IS 40 PIN, WE CAN (!) make the SHARP panel fit in the Gigabyte P35K!!!!!!

4K! 16:10 too! IF you want to RENDER / SCALE down games to to 1080p, this monitor will do it crisply (ideally, actually) like a 1080p monitor, since 4K is an exact 4x megapixel multiple of 1920x1200 or 1080p.

Or they'll scale it down to 3840x2160 for us! In which case the panel is a perfect fit.
Not to mention it won't be tn panel. whew

I know one site (I can't remember which) offered p35k with the internal bluray drive, but I don't remember which. Not sure if one through Gigabyte is available.

For any users who are a gamer out there. I just recounted the Gigabyte panel refresh rate is 35ms too. Ouch.
This is from the Gigabyte engineers - as well.
When provided to SinChen in his Mandarin review.

"Hardware performance so tricky, equipped with 15.6-inch Full HD LCD really value, but the use of found slight blur, Gigabyte panel specifications provided by the reaction speed 35ms, watching movies instrument is no problem However, if the speed when playing games like the game, it may be a bit blur wants to play together. In the laptop is equipped with wide viewing angle of the panel, is nothing more than get together with friends to discuss the games that everyone can see a good picture."

Cheers

 

Nvm, I'm an idiot for looking at the wrong laptop completely (P25 rather than P35)

 

The outer box was fairly beaten up, but the inner (Black) Gigabyte box was fine.

 

Well sucks that you have to send it back. How's it feel though? Aparantly someone dropped a 2x10 on the p35k then.

Aside from a 10° bend of your laptop, is it fine? Wax poetic on your laptop. Tell us how you really feel.

 

Inspecting the damage, it does seem like it could be a stress point.

The ODD actually weakens the structure and the whole left front corner (4inches sq) moves if the slightest pressure was applied - I can only guess as the Alu chassis was damaged at some point and all strength was lost.

If you look at the pic, you can see a crease at the front where the weak points are.

My thoughts is it could be a design weakness. Excuse the bad PAINT skills.



OCUK have been great. Hopefully a replacement will be out next week.



Another user has the same issue on OCUK
Overclockers UK Forums - View Single Post - ** LATEST GIGABYTE LAPTOPS NOW AVAILABLE FROM OcUK INCLUDING P35K / P34G!! **

If this can happen in transport, what's it going to be in real life?

The way it was packed - there was no support in the middle section - just the two outers.

IMHO the damage seen is consistent with it being dropped (in it's packaging) - and then the inertia & impact forcing the bottom of the laptop to bow at the weak points highlighted.

 

hi, man. I'm quite interested to this laptop. I love to play game but I can't build any PC yet. so I'm looking for slim & thin laptop, but powerful enough to play game nowadays

I'm planning to use this laptop for at least 2-3 years. So anybody know whether this laptop can handle at least till next year's games? AUD 2000 is really big money for me. especially in my country AUD 2000 is equal to 22 million. I can buy a lot of things using that amount of money rather than buy a single laptop. no offence.. But i really need a gaming laptop, but not big & heavy one

as i said before, my intention is only one : whether this laptop can handle at least till next year's games easily or not?. I would be disappointed when found out that the laptop struggles with the latest and greatest next year

and anyone living in Australia? Do you have any recommendation store to buy this laptop? Thank you for any replace, man :thumbsup:

 

The 765M is middle of the top end cards.

It's good, but not great.

You need to think decide if performance or design has the higher priority. There are faster machines on the market which can be upgradable (CLEVO et al) - but none of them are as sleek & light.

 

oh OK thanks, man.
if the cards is not that great, then what's the good on this laptop that can made it worth till AUD 2000?

 

Any of the big & heavy clevo's with 780m / 770m / 8970

 

This laptop is the only laptop that I know of in the 15.6" screen form factor that has a mid-upper tier video card. There are a lot of thin and lights/ultrabooks that are much thinner for the screen size but none have anything close to a 765m. Most just use intel HD graphics or 750m or less. Also the storage options for this laptop far out compete anything else on the market that isn't a 1.5" gaming desktop replacement. The ability to put in 2 msata drives is really nice, I'm not entirely convinced about the ODD bay since it seems to be a structural weakpoint. On top of which, alienwares, clevos, MSI, and asus gaming computers are too flashy.

 

Agreed on the last statement. Now re-thinking buying this as, to-date, I'm very happy with my P34G. Would be a good tandem for office vs. travel, but now not-so-much.