P35W v2 News

It wasn't that, but thanks. It turns out that I needed to update my firmware, so I installed Smart Update. In doing so I discovered that the driver versions on Smart Update are, in some cases, newer than the ones on the web download page, so I updated a bunch of drivers. Problem solved. It's a really nice webcam!

 

Is it 720p? Nothing in the specs sheets indicate it.

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Specs say HD camera, which suggests 720p.

 

The ones I've seen only say 1.3 megapixels.

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Well, HD is about 1 megapixels while Full HD is about 2 megapixels.

 

I'm thinking of this same thing.

 

I would have gone with the P35G v2 if they had used the Maxwell 860M. I got a reply from Gigabyte that indicated that the laptop would have the Maxwell version, but my hopes and dreams were crushed when the owners started reporting that it uses the Kepler version. Just imagine the battery life with a GPU that uses only around half the power of this one.

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There were some tests done comparing Maxwell and Kepler and the results were not that great. A frame rate limiter is applied and even limiting the FPS to 30 didn't achieve anywhere near double the battery life. Sorry, I can't remember where I saw the info, but when I read it I remember being quite underwhelmed.

I'm also not sure if applying your own frame rate limiter would achieve a similar result.

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I wasn't saying that you would get twice the battery life, because you still have other factors such as CPU, screen, etc. One thing for sure is that Maxwell is pretty efficient compared to Kepler. Heat would be another advantage Maxwell has over Kepler; since it runs cooler, there's more headroom for overclocking if desired.

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I think there's a lot of Maxwell hype, on this forum especially.

 

Personally, I am concerned about battery life when I am on the go. I do not game when on the go and GPU being used on battery is built-in Intel. Maxwell would not a thing for battery in my case.
For those who play games while on battery, it could give extra 15-20 minutes (that's a wild guess). Don't know how useful that would be.

Overall reduction in heat and in power consumption with Maxwell while using it on AC is great, though.

 

has there been a noticeable temp difference with the Kepler 860m vs the Maxwell version?

 

Sorry, I meant gaming time while on battery.

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There are no laptops which has the options for both, so we can only assume by comparing two similar systems. For example, the owners of the Clevo W230SS/Sager NP7338, which uses Core i7-4810MQ and a Maxwell 860M, are reporting temperatures within the 65 - 80 °C range while gaming; although a bit thicker, the laptop has only one exhaust fan and is considerably smaller. Unfortunately, I don't have any data from a laptop running the Kepler 860M, but I would assume the temperature while gaming would hover around the 75 - 90 °C range. The P34G v2 owners are saying that they will be able to overclock their 860M to match the performance of our 870M, so I'm kind of interested in seeing where that goes.

I think it's simply better to start with a new architecture, which has more room for improvements, than to reuse a somewhat dated one. It just seems like they're trying to use up all the remaining Kepler cores they have in stock.

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I can totally understand where you're going with that..But just to play devils advocate here, newer doesn't always mean better...My almost completely unrelated example of this is Windows Vista vs XP.

 

Good point, but we're already seeing Maxwell beating Kepler in many areas; Vista was just bad to begin with.

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Looks like they beat us.

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Anyone can provide some first feedback regarding noise. Had the MSI GS60 and the fan was way too loud just for office work. Compared to my Lenovo Y580

 

There's a built in fan application which prevents the fan from running any at all, I think you'll be fine in terms of office work.

 

You got a link to that post because w/o it I don't know what the heck its talking about.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=9695280
Apparently the Maxwell 860M is extremely overclockable and can surpass the performance of the 870M.

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I kind of call trash on that...also...do you think Maxwell is supposed to run that hot? 85*C? If you already have issues with heat, then I probably wouldn't overclock, especially on a thin chasis...You've got to assume that the necessary checks were done and things are a certain way for a reason....


Then again, I am probably super frigid (no pun intended) cause I burnt out my last laptops CPU. Hence why I am here...

That being said, I am purchasing this laptop tonight, I need the cheapest shipping to the Caribbean....so I need some help with that

 

Either way, we're ending up with a machine that will be able to perform for years. Can't wait for tomorrow!

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haha whats with all the fuss about this, its a repeat on everything said in the forum. noise has been tested and performance has been tested, even heat. and yet we ask the same question again. and i call 100% bull on that guy overclocking the maxwell 860M to beat the 870M, first of all the cuda cores are 640 on the 860m maxwell and the 870m kepler is 1344. how would you even be able to get the performance that is better than 870M, its plain stupid as each smx block in each card is 192 shaders. the 870m has 7 smx blocks while the 860m maxwell has 3.5 smx blocks. thats 3.5 smx blocks differance. can someone please tell me how he came up with an extra 3.5 smx blocks in his card hahaha :laugh:

people P.I.S.S me off with their lies lol

if thats the case then HELL ill overclock my 870m to be an 880m or even surpass the performance of an 880m if we can push our cards to magically add shaders to them.

 

Telling you it's the Maxwell hype.

 

I'm still not 100% convinced...
Isn't the p35k the same case as the P35w-v2?
I've seen a video of a p35k be Asus being quite loud

Perhaps one of you lucky owners can do a similar test

 

Gigabyte has fixed the fan noise issue since the P35K. Owners who have had both models, like WhiteBoySHady, can confirm this.

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I don't want to be harsh. But all those questions have already been answered: heat, noise, battery, even build quality and easiness to upgrade ssds, and RAM and a lot of other questions about screen quality.

So pls... READ THE DAMN THREAD before asking the same questions

No offense meant.

 

So to help you, in case someone is too lazy to read the whole thread, here is a summary:

Battery: 5h approximately light use minimal brightness
Heat: under load 82-85 GPU 91CPU (max degrees celsius)
Noise: inaudible under normal use, 35dB-40dB under load, owners say it is way improved compared to p35k, so my guess is around 35-40dB but it isn't accurate data. Owners say noise is ok.
Screen: excellent image quality, might not be IPS
Build quality: good, feels solid, bottom is plastic, top is aluminium
Easiness to upgrade: RAM very easy 1-2 screws, for the rest you need to take out all screws
Easiness to change ODD for HDD: incredibly easy, hot swap, just push a button.
FPS tests: Crysis 3 ultra feels good, you can get decent FPS for Watchdogs in High, almost all modern games playable ultra around 35fps and high 60fps

That's it. If I forgot something, do not hesitate to say what

 

Can someone get shemp put this all in his post at the beginning. If not I got the 2nd post spot, so I can edit that in.

 

Now my only concern is if I should be waiting for that hype to come to the iron or getting the Kepler version now.

 

Your wish is my command!

 

That temperature without cooling pad and no repaste yet right?

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Erm... you're worried about the OCed 860m running at about 85°C but at the same moment you wanna buy a P35W v2 with a 870m Kepler, which runs into the high 80s, instead??
Sorry, but that sounds very weird... Or is Maxwell definetely more sensitive and damageable to heat than Kepler...? Never heard about that though...

Calm down, mate.
Although i'm a bit curious about promises like 'beating a 870m' and so on, too, but it's not fine to call him liar, without waiting for his results. Let's just wait for his results. Then we can see and factually comment on them.

I'm not an expert in graphics cards. But i think you've got something wrong with your comparison, as the Maxwell architecture has several changes/improvements, which makes it more efficient. So i don't think the 860m and 870m are really comparable with raw numbers only.
For example the 750Ti (same GM107 chip as the 860M's) has already proven it's better efficiency to it's Kepler predecessor (650Ti) with much less TDP but as well as more performance, although the 650Ti has more transistors, more shader cores, more texture units and some other things more. That said, i am not an expert in graphics cards and maybe an expert here can explain that in detail, but i don't think Maxwell is just a hype!

But i agree with you, guys, that the 870m is nevertheless a great performer, no question about it, but in my opinion just too hot for a thin chassis!

 

For Far Cry 3 running on Ultra I get CPU at 82-90C and GPU at 80-88C running with a cooling pad and IC Diamond repaste. I leave the fan set to auto, and it doesn't spin up to max until the CPU and GPU hit 90.

When playing less demanding games, like Civ V maxed, my temps are in the mid 70s.

 

Have you tried undervolting the CPU yet?

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Hello,

For those who have used/owned P35K and P35W v2, what is your opinion on touchpad on P35W v2? I think most of us agree (including me as P35K owner), P35K touchpad is horrible.

I know we don't use touchpad for gaming, but for office work and web browsing, can we now leave mouse at home and exclusively use touchpad ?

Thanks

 

Wow it is still quite high, do u have temp for creed black flag?

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Temps in this thing are very high. I'm not sure if buying this laptop is a good investment for a 2 year plan.

Also, i wonder if is possible to create a keyboard shortcut to activate the fans on full speed like using smart manager. That would be nice, similar to the MSI GE60.

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I have a question. How much does it weigh?

I'm just coming off an unfortunate experience with MSI GS60 (dodgy screen) which was super light. I read that this is 2.1-2.2kg but read a review which said it was actually 2.6kg.

Cheers,

VGJFelix

 

Yeah it's 2.26kg at max.

 

What does that mean, at max? If you get the one with 16gb ram, double 128 SSD.

Or is it meaning if you strip out the cd/dvd drive you can get it down to 2.1kg?

500g is quite a big difference and it might tilt it one way of the other.

Cheers,

VGJFelix

 

Sorry...

I meant 2.26

Weight ~2.16kg (w/Li-polymer battery)
~2.26kg (w/ODD and Li-polymer battery)

 

to end the screen discussion, guys check the website of gigabyte as they are the accurate ones. look at the display section.
p35k is ips. the p35w v2 is wide angle
here is a pic of both specs from the website

 

no the chassis isn't the same, even the strength of it has changed since the p35k. and breathing fan holes at the bottom has been added. and the fans have been re engineered.

 

lol thats a different comparison. they have similar cores but the 750ti has better texture rate and speeds. but if the 650ti had like 900 cuda cores. they would have been forced to add better texture rates and speeds. you can compare the 750ti to the 660ti. thats a fair comparison... kinda like what he is comparing now. right now he is comparing 860 to 870 which is kinda crazy because games to run at good frame rates use those shading units. his comparison is like comparing the 750ti to the 660ti. the maxwell 860m does not have enough shading power to perform well with high and ultra graphics settings. trust me i know cards and no way that is possible. the 860m maxwell does not have enough shading units to perform all this processing to maintain good fraps on high and ultra as he claims.
here look at this, tell me where he can get the performance. i believe in numbers and numbers don't lie.

 

Apparently TN panels are good for gaming. If anything happens and I don't like the screen, I'll just swap it out and put the 4k screen in there, I mean..

 

no 4k is too much now. you have to wait for 3-4 years to get good performance on 4k for laptops. cause usually the nvidia optimus technology switches to the intel graphics when you dont need performance and i highly doubt the intel card can handle most apps on the 4k screen. so i assume that your laptop will mostly run on the gtx card and bearly use the intel card or constantly change between the two whenever you use a certain app. thats why 4k is great for desktop mainly. but give it a shot and let me know how it goes

just wait till people get the (msi gs60 ghost pro 3k) and youll see how 3k display on a laptop was a big mistake.

i mean look at apple and how the high end retina display laptops have a dedicated card. they know the intel cant handle it. plus mac os is lighter and faster than windows. so they managed to make it run well with most apps on the intel card. but even that. the mac uses more of the dedicated card than the intel

 

In other words the screen might be the same type as the one on the p34g v2 model. Which is not an IPS screen but it's an AVHA screen.


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I am close to pulling the trigger for this laptop. I am thinking of buying it on Gentech PC but their website looks clumsy and I tried calling them several times and no answer : just a strange voice telling me I will be disconnected...

What guarantee can I have that Gentech is not a scam ? I know some of you say they got their laptop from them, but what tells me you are not company agents

Why don't they answer the phone ? and no response message when no one answers ?