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    *** OFFICIAL AORUS X5 V6 OWNERS LOUNGE ***

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Arvindr56789, Dec 3, 2016.

  1. Shauryya Pratap Mishra

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    Any chnges to the bios?
     
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    Does anyone use constant voltage instead of adaptive voltage? What are its pros and cons?
    What's the max amount of overclock and undervolt that you have had on your GPU?

    Also, can someone have a skype, whatsapp or discord call to help me repaste my cpu and gpu?
    The last time I tried that, I apparantly fried the board and have had to send it for RMA twice to get it fixed.
     
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    My CPU is unstable at -0.070V at 3.7 and 3.8 GHz but stable at 3.9GHz at well over -0.090V during an XTU stress test.
    Is there any explanation for that?
     
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    have you updated the BIOS to the latest version?
     
  5. Shauryya Pratap Mishra

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    Yes I have
    Also just got my laptop bavk from Gigabyte RMA after a month and the laptop shows hardware failure detected during an AIDA64 stress test.
    Any reasons for this?
     
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    Post screenshots of everything from Hvinfo64 and the Aida64 test after a few seconds tests and when failure happened.
     
  7. Shauryya Pratap Mishra

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    Will do
    But at the moment am running 10 passes of memtest86
    I got a page fault error in non pages area or something while playing rainbow six seige at said 3.9GHz OC and +100 on core and +150 on mem.
    Ruling out memory and cache as fault at the moment
    Have screenshots from even viewer of the time of bsod.
    Whocrashed shows the crash reason to be a custom code or something
     
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    Try unplug the AC power, take out the memory and install it back to the laptop
     
  9. Shauryya Pratap Mishra

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    I believe that the memory is under the keyboard and not accessible easily
    How do I get there?
     
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    If that so, try to unplug the AC Power, detach the internal battery and attach it back
     
  11. Shauryya Pratap Mishra

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    So here is some data that I collected.
    ->AIDA64 stress test with cpu fpu and cache at 3.9 GHz, -0.090V and 3.7GHz on the cache as a baseline of values that it does during an OC and undervolt across all cores (idk whether that helpful or not but still there)
    ->AIDA64 stress test with cpu fpu and cache at 4.0GHz, -0.040V and 3.8GHz on the cache which failed after 23 minutes and 1 second (sorry that the data file continues for god knows how long after that, I fell asleep on the laptop) along with a screenshot of the main AIDA 64 page.
    ->Crash dump analysis from WhoCrashed and HWInfo for when I did an AIDA64 stress test with cpu fpu and cache at 4.0GHz, -0.050V and 3.8GHz on the cache.
    ->Screenshots from event viewer of reboot after crash (if that helps, no data of crash or during reboot)
    ->Data from last BSOD showing error page fault in non pageable area in even viewer. Sorry I didn't have HWinfo running that time

    The crash was most probably a BSOD. I cannot access the battery as of now since I do not have the required screw driver to open the backplate. Will attempt that on Tuesday or Wednesday, when I get home

    I shall put the link to a Google drive for all of this since I cannot upload all of this data here:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iry7MqJ5muFwohvRocZe1Gmfn5QLGulu/view?usp=sharing


    Cheers
     
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    The previous link was of just one image, I apologise
    this is the correct link (hopefully)

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MfkRjCTdR-nzE48wXALgLhLUNx7-1nUM?usp=sharing
     
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    Seems you have several problems. Google your Who crashed answers. This is one http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-3128626/fix-windows-error-page-fault-nonpaged-area.html

    And you have overheating. Maybe run Aida64 again and follow up Hwinfo as a hawks while running. But this time maybe lower clocks to pick out the overheating. Lower clocks means you may rule out stability problems due overheating or too low voltage.

    And for the records... You run an easier Aida64 stress test for finding max temp. Check only “Stress FPU” box means higher Cpu temperatures than you get with all 3 boxes on top checked.

    You can also run different tests (different boxes checked) for testing different types problems


    I’m on a phone and on summer vacation with bad internet. Google Who Crashed results if they continue come in log. Good luck.
     
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    I just got a bsod with memory management something
    It was too fast for me to read...the bios just stopped showing the ram after that....am removing the battery and power cycling and rebutting the battery inside...let's see what happens
     
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    Run http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed to find the cause.
     
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    It is overwriting my dumps I dont know why.
    I am going through validating all my drivers, doing a chkdsk and sfc/scannow and a memory diagnostic run the whole day today.
    WIll get back to you with results.
    Also, while in the loading screen of Rainbow Six Siege, the temperature keeps ramping up despite of fans being on the max settings
     
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    How high is the temperature while gaming?
     
  20. Shauryya Pratap Mishra

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    While on the idle screen itself, the GPU goes to 90C.
    At 3.8GHz and -100mV undervolt I get 85-87 in game whereas the idle screen temps are around 75-85
    I asked my RMA rep to apply aftermarket thermal paste (liquid metal and non) and I said i would be willing to pay for said thermal paste and he said, and I quote, "We do not provide liquid thermal paste for service, the stock paste is selected according to the parameter of the unit when we designed it."
    I do not think that it was within the design parameter of the unit to reach such temperatures.
    Also to note, the CPU just keeps ramping up in temperature regardless of fan speed and undervolt.
     
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    1. actually re-paste the grease may work (make it evenly distributed on the surface of die and never get it too thick)
    2. check if there's any hidden program cause the temperature of CPU ramp
     
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    Any examples of such programs?
    Also, how do I find them?
    Is Noctua NT H1 any good?
    I have been "warned" not to repaste the CPU or GPU: "Please do not reapply thermal paste as it will void the warranty on your unit"

    Idk how to play the photos but here goes
    The cpu silicon is "scratched" on the top surface.
    There was a sticky gooey substance on the VRAM which I promptly removed and I applied thermal paste on top of them.
    Repeated everything and tada
    Attracting and error code 43 on the gpu in device manager
    Artifacting on the screen
    What do I do
     
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    1. check the task manager is the quickest way to find it out
    2. Personally I will recommend Thermal Gizzly and of course if your warranty hasn't expired yet maybe try not to do so
     
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    I'm no lawyer, but in the united states you can't void a warranty for a repaste. You can void a warranty if your repaste breaks something. But say you had a hard drive fail, they are still obligated to repair that drive under warranty because your repaste was not the cause of the failure.
     
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    Hey everyone :)

    I can't get the "less than" symbol to work. It's the left arrow symbol like this: " < " (I had to copy/paste that one from somewhere.) Shift+comma does nothing.

    The key pressed by itself works fine as I can type comma's: ,,,,,,,

    I've tried with both shift keys so they're probably not the issue.

    I've tried all other shift-key combos including the greater than > symbol and they're fine.

    I'm on the lastest Aorus fusion (3.8.3) but I also tried rolling it back to 3.8.1.

    I have updated everything, and I think my keyboard firmware is the latest too (version 1.2.0) .. I haven't tried rolling that back. I'm on Windows 10 also up to date. My Bios is FB07 / F003.

    Anyone know of a fix? Can any of you test it out and let me know if yours is working ok?

    Thanks
     
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    Try un-install the AORUS Fusion and install it back agian
     
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    Hey there - I've tried uninstalling it as well as deleting the keyboard devices from device manager. I've also tried downgrading the keyboard firmware from 1.2.0 to 1.1.2 and also tried an older version of Aorus Fusion but I have the same issue.

    I've not noticed that I can get the < symbol to type but it's a bit weird - I have to press shift+comma but then keep comma held down and then release shift FIRST - it then types "<".. but if I have to do it quick or I get "<,,,,,,,,," lol
     
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    I think I just bricked my kb... I used firmwareupdater app from within the aorusfusion folder and now it doesnt work at all... no lights and no keypress registration. The app I used now says : [​IMG] https://ibb.co/k2SgDo
    I beg you some1 help, google has nothing...
     
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    Hmmm - That one says version 1.1.5 - I thought the latest version is 1.1.2 - that's the latest I can find anywhere. Weirdly, Aorus fusion says I'm on 1.2.0. This is the one I used:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O2sDr62wC2gFjwBwvTcXfeKZsBDC1-mJ
     
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    I just opened Drivers Update and saw that there was an update available for Aorus Fusion from 3.8.3 to 3.8.4.. After installing it from the app -- my antivirus is going crazy.. Bit Defender says tons of files that are in the AorusFusion folder as well as some in the DriversUpdate folder are infected with "Atc4.Detection"

    Is anyone else getting this?
     
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    Question about GTX 1070 driver. Which is better, offical AORUS driver, or final GTX from Geforce?
     
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    I'd say it's always better to go with the driver direct from NVIDIA - at least for me the Aorus driver is pretty old.
     
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    A while ago when I was doing some testing, I found that grabbing the latest drivers from aorus (the ones from the latest released laptop, for example x5 v8) provided the best results in performance and stability.
     
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    Is that 4.3Ghz across all 4 cores?
     
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    No, it uses the regular step down, so that's single core (4.0ghz on 4). If I recall correctly, I could do 4.3 on all 4 with higher voltage but it was hot and loud (I think it drew near 85W) so never bothered with proper stability testing
     
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    Help me out brothers. @Jared_T @hmscott @Papusan @Shauryya Pratap Mishra @tps3443 @g85222456 @Tonrac

    I have recently swapped from the X5 V6 to the X5 V7 and my firestrike scores are much worse:

    V7 - 14,639, CPU all 4 cores @ 4.2Ghz, Uncore @ 4.1Ghz, -0.100V & GPU; 1,936 MHz core and 2,152 MHz memory

    V6 - 15,919, CPU all 4 cores @ 4.1Ghz, Uncore @ 3.8Ghz, - 0.070V & GPU; 1,873 MHz core and 2,152 MHz memory

    What gives? Shouldn't I be getting better results with a better CPU?

    Thanks.
     
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    After you have done 3DM Firestrike run... Take a look into show Details. There you can see temp, clocks and if you run into throttling.
     
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    Everything appears to be stable and at reasonable temps:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Different driveres, OS version, 3Dmark version and machine with other firmware for both Gpu and Cpu (This model have other cpu and chipset). Could be even more trash runnining in the background. Can be so much.
     
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    Thanks @Papusan. I think the best I can do is try and match driver versions and make sure there's little or no background apps running.

    But 1,280pts less for a better CPU seems simply wrong!
     
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    Cpu doesn't mean very much in 3DMark Firestrike(and 4.1 vs. 4.2GHz equal 2.4% increase). Aka you won't see much difference in TOTAL SCORE (Almost nothing). Look on your graphics score. A lot lower. The major culprit for your lackluster performance.
     
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    Try perform the F9 recovery to see if it works
     
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    Will check with our RD to see whaz goin on
     
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    Re-install all GPU drivers (DDU)
    Run a full system scan, and the Windows Defender Offline Scan

    I would go to msconfig to enable only the services and boot processes that are essential to the running of the laptop, windows and firestrike.
    Disconnect all internet access, if possible.
    Uninstall all aorus software, and possibly disable all other processes and services during run so that you can eliminate as many variables from the performance drop equation.
    Enable those processes and services in batches, for example re-enable microsoft processes, firewalls and other application to find which batch has the most performance drop.
    Re-run the test after enabling each batch.

    I know that this is tedious but its what I would do to find the culprit.

    For a more apples to apples comparison, I would suggest you similarly clock the CPU and GPU.

    If you already solved the problem, then this would be a moot exercise.
    Tell us how far you've gotten and how have you solved it (if you solved it).

    As Papusan pointed out, the GPU seems to be the culprit of the lower scores

    Have you changed any of the hardware or repasted the dies?

    As I said before, this would be a moot discussion if you already solved the problem



    What this seems to me though is that that chip is not good at all.
    Its been binned too much due to defects that may have crept as nVidia overestimated the crypto bubble and tried to overproduce to fulfill the artificial and hyper inflated demand of pascal cards, either to be the good guy and let everyone have Pascal cards, be it miners and gamers, or be the real villain and try to push as many (highly overproduced) cards as they could before they released Turing and showed people that the cards that they bought at hyper inflated prices were suddenly obsolete.

    Again, the last part is just my theory and may not completely be true.

    Sincerely,
    Shauryya Pratap Mishra

    nVidia, please send me an RTX 2080Ti
    Thanx
     
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    Anyone got any comparisons between the 1920*1080 120Hz display vs the 2880*1620 60Hz display?
     
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    Not many people had the 120hz screen. It may have been discontinued at some point.

    I had it on my x5v6 and really liked it.
    It was very fast and responsive.
    What i didnt like is the colors are really bad. Blacks are grey or brown.
    I adjusted the gamma and that helped but caused other problems as well.
     
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    How would you guys rate a score of 11112 for the V6?
     
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    CPU score?
     
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    Dear Customer,


    The ones we use are cooler master thermal paste. For exact model I do not know. We will generally test with our own software to make sure when its on full load the speed doesn’t throttle and the temperatures are correct. We also test the unit under 3DMark Fire Strike and the score is 11112 and matches unit performance specs.

    This is the mail I got from Gigabyte customer service when I asked whether the problems with my unit were solved.
    That's all the info I have. I was hoping you guys would have a better idea. Never ran firestrike myself
     
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    11,112 would be about right for a stock i7-6820HK with no overclock as the physics/CPU score.

    Who's dealing with your situation, local support or TW?
     
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