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Yes, I repasted with liquid metal again with great results.
(and then the laptop went in for a repair on the plastic around the hinge and the repairer borked the mobo)
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Has anyone tried upgrading the DDR4? My bios is bare minimum I see no options for enabling XMP, or changing much of anything performance related is allowed.. But, I’d like to run DDR4 3,200 or better. I guess I’d have to use Intel XTU for overclocking to the rated speed via BCLK.
Or will the bios automatically detect it ? If I installed gskill ddr4 3000 sticks?
It currently uses G.Skill 2400Mhz DDR4 So-Dimms currently. And there is up to DDR4 4266mhz available.
There is just absolutely zero info on how fast of memory a 7820HK can run
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25578848?
16,257 Firestrike.
I’m back on standard thermal gel.
I started carrying the laptop around a lot and removed the liquid metal. I was being paranoid.
Theres possibly more room in this thing I guess.
These are 24/7 stable overclocks. I can run it with unstable overclocks back to back chasing numbers. But, this 16,257 was not the case. This is daily driving stuff.
this was at +116 GPU/+785 memory.
I will run it again at +125/+850 and the CPU at 4.5Ghz all cores. It may artifact through the test though lol.
Ive almost got everything dialed in.
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< PS. I ran it again with higher overclocks, (4.5Ghz) CPU, and +125/+850 GPU.
The physics score was right at 14,000. But, Overall was literally identical!
I would like to try and obtain a X7 V7 DT power adapter to see what happens. I think the X7 V7 can provide 275 watts? I’m not sure if this is correct. I can only put out 230 watts I think with the NON DT power adapter.Last edited: Mar 13, 2018 -
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Yea but it will not realistically hold constant boost at 1,974 MHz.
The system is just out of available power. Increasing the core more will show no improvement unless you could really lower the cpu/gpu temps to extremely cold levels, then it would use even less power and allow a little more boost but not much.
I’ve only added +115 in Evga precision x.
+785 memory is stable 24/7 on this gtx1070 in anything for any amount of time.
For example, you can go run a game at 1080P and this gpu will boost to 2100mhz! But, run the same game at 4K and it draws much more power limiting it to about 1,835-1949mhz continuous boost. So in the “easy to run spots in firestrike” the gpu boost to 1,974mhz so the app says “it’s running at 1974 lol”. But it doesn’t constantly hold that, frames drop to the 30’s more power draw and the boost drops to the 1,800’s.
It would be nice if our laptop pascal video cards power limit could be increased from 100%.
You run in to the same problem with the desktop version.
Fortunately, we do have have almost 10% more cuda cores than a desktop gtx1070 and 15% more pipelines. So, I’d say it’s pretty close.Last edited: Mar 13, 2018 -
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My old gtx1080FE was getting right at 27,200 Graphics score in firestrike. with a 6600K was about 18,800 overall.
I think if I could increase the power limit a custom voltage offset would help.
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A lot of laptops suck. They throttle, run hot, fail to run the hardware they have at default or rated speeds.
The Aorus is smashing other gtx1070 laptops, other models cannot hold up..
The Aorus even walks past gtx1080 max Q. And performs on par with most gtx1080. With the right tweaking.
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I owned various Gigabyt elaptops and tested Aorus laptops, they still go too far in terms of thinness and cutting quality corners. I hope the X8 will be better but it is not going well with Gigabyte as a company.Last edited: Mar 14, 2018 -
I think the average firestrike for score for gtx1070 laptop is like 13,300 overall.
Ive read so much about throttling AlienWare laptops. what you are describing was what I was afraid of most above all when getting any laptop. And I just have not experienced any of it. You wouldn't need to repaste such a device. And you shouldn't have to..
I'm running higher overclocks. And my GPU runs even cooler than yours.. I stay right at 66C while 4K gaming, and overclocked. If I game at 1080P I stay right at 58C
I'm running faster than virtually every other GTX1070 laptop out there. Including yours! The only laptops that can surpass are usually MXM and using liquid metal.
I'm not temperature limited. I'm out of power lol.Last edited: Mar 15, 2018 -
. I tested various aorus laptops and reviews state the same that they cannot hold turbo clocks. Its true alienware had thermal paste issues when they launched but most of them assembled now are great. Also how are your cpu numbers. Pretty much any laptop can cool gpu's well. I run at 68/69c at 1800mhz while it does not sound like a vacuum cleaner, which is something also all aorus laptops do. Gigabyte skimps on any part within a laptop, from battery to chassis. Hope for you that yours will hold out, i had to replace mine within mere months for 3 times.tested 4 aorus and gigabyte laptops in total and they never got it right. So whats your firestrike then. Specially for you i will OC mine and do a run tonight.
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Repasting is not beneficial if any at all on a Aorus. Yes I still stand by that. You may get 3% difference, which is margin of error from computer to computer.
And why yes, Liquid metal is very beneficial! “This is totally different”
If you think that you can just go in, and use liquid metal like thermal gel good luck. I take way more precautions, including using special tape around the die in the PCB area. And sealing everything off. And painting the liquid metal on, after lapping the copper contact area.
^ This is not a simple repaste!
To clarify again, a repaste is not beneficial. Liquid metal is beneficial on anything just about!
My posts are not fishy. I will post up photos. I do get 16,260 or so in firestrike, and I have broken 20,000 graphics I have posted links. And I will again.
Ive broken records with a couple video cards, my average pc part ran much much faster than the average man, but sometimes just average.. but that’s ok, I was in this PC game years before we even had pci E video cards. A lot of other people have been to. It’s nothing spectacular. And I’m not a magician!
I’ve been doing this a while. I don’t lie, and I say it how it is.
This is my first laptop. I bought on research. And also by getting a good deal. I’ve built so many computers and caused degradation on 1 to many cpu’s.
We have what we have. And we use what we use. I just said mine is faster than yours.. not to start a argument . 1 of the main reasons I bought this was because what a handful of people have squeezed out of them. So I followed suit! And a few people “ actually only you” don’t believe me..
A P870tm1 has bested 22,000+ graphics with a gtx1070. Is breaking 20,000 that tough with a soldered on gtx1070? No it’s not! Just because you have not achieved it with your 15” R3 does not mean I can’t with my Aorus.
So just for you, I will run firestrike and best 20,000 graphics.
Then I will post up some temperatures of my gpu temps using Precision X OSD. Or a video? What do you prefer? 1080P? Or 4K
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You dont need to explain the difficulties regarding liquid metal to me, there is a reason why I do not use it. It also affects copper even though not as severe as alluminum, it is getting inside and if one is unlucky it will still ruin your heatsink.
I dont care about the time you use PC's, thats not a factor. Same as it is not a factor I was overclocking Pentium 1 PC's back in the days as a kid with switching jumpers by hand and one of the first people using 3D accelerator cards. It's just not relevant to this laptop.
Facts, out of the box Aorus laptops do not run more quickly than others. The graphic scores in EACH review are similar to others 1070GTX laptops in the same pricerange and thickness range.
Breaking the 3Dmark score of 20000 with a 1070 can only be done if you can get the card running around 2100 with the desktop version (a bit less cuda cores) or 20025~2050 with the laptop version. You can get a bit more points if you lower some settings in the Geforce driver suite and thus lowering graphics quality. The thing is, it would be possible cooling wise, since in most laptops its around 70c only and desktop boards run stock at 80c. But the power circuit is smaller for most laptops out there including the Aorus and ALienware laptops, the MXM boards are available with more power phases hence someone could break 22000 points. Just luck of the draw and the right amount of power phases.
And faster than mine? Is it a pissing contest? I never showed any numbers and I have not run 3Dmark on my laptop yet. Did so on my old 6700HQ and got just short of 20000points (graphic score).
edit: just did a run with my GPU running at 1949mhz. These are the results https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25617933
This link is with an external 1070GTX on my old laptop. GPU running in that one around 2050mhz https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11413715Last edited: Mar 15, 2018Jared_T likes this. -
I don’t get it. This is my last run. I’m already there at like 1,974. So your desktop gpu is not holding boost anywhere near 2,050
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25578848?
This is the moral of the story.
I love my laptop! My experience had been very satisfying so far. I’ve been using Gigabyte for years. And I’ve always had normal working products. So, why would I not buy the Aorus?
I’ll get some links up by tonight, and pics of temps. Your clock speed does not need to be 2,000mhz+. Laptops have about 10% more cuda cores. And 15% more rop pipes
As for problems? Any laptop breaks.. I bought it because I recognized it was fast!
If something goes wrong, I will go through warranty! I’m not concerned about if something is going to happen until it does..
Don’t worry I’m honest, and when I’m done working, I’ll post my results again. I’ll try to get it even higher than 16,257 overall!
My GPU temps are as I say! Just like my benchmark scores! I don’t lie. I’ll show you whatever because I know I’m just stating factual events
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Hey everyone. Finally got my X5 V7 a week or so ago and I couldn't be happier. This thing is a monster.
I do have to ask, those of you that own one, how is the backlight bleed on yours? I understand with these panels a little backlight bleed in unavoidable. But, particularly around the bottom bezel, it's fairly obvious.
Mine: https://i.imgur.com/rF7oVtg.jpg
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Post a pic of light bleed please. Light bleed on the bottom bezel is the most common. But it is usually minimal
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This was possible on alienware soldered 1070's, but then you would need the 330W power supply.
And its unknown whether this unit is capped at 230W hard cap (preventing more power draw) or if it would utilize a 330W PSU if it needed one. Many units are hard capped based on their model type (often determined internally by the detected video card, if the same motherboard is used for 1070 and 1080 models).
You also have to make sure that the system won't power limit throttle you if a video card is TDP modded. On the MSI Titan laptops, for example, the MXM slot (which is also used for 1080 versions) can handle 195W TDP easily, but the GTX 1070 has a 230W coded AC power limit, and bypassing that causes extreme CPU throttling. Thankfully, an EC RAM Register change in RW Everything can change the powerID from 230W to 330W (then all you need is the 330W PSU and the SPI programming flash tools), but you get the point.
I'm rather impressed you can game at 4.8 ghz on this without getting throttled hard. Have you tried increasing "VR Current Limit" in Intel XTU, from the default (i believe default is 70A) to 150A?
Also what voltage do you need for 4.8 ghz ? On my GT73VR throttlebook ™ I need 1.310v for 4.8 ghz, and for 4.7 ghz I need 1.275v (4.7 ghz passes small FFT Prime95 if AVX and FMA3 are disabled (VRM's will shut off if AVX/FMA3 is enabled at these speeds and voltages), and 4.8 ghz passes Stockfish 8 thread chess engine, games and Cinebench.
Really curious what is limiting your system. What voltage is needed for 4.8 ghz? Can you bench at 4.9 ghz?
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@tps3443 Also what were some of your benchmark runs before you removed the liquid metal?
I've been up to 4900 mhz but not game stable. Temps get out of control and then there's the VRM amps overcurrent limit to deal with at that point.
Here's some of mine on a GT73VR:
This one was 4900 mhz, 1.375v
Here was 4800 mhz, 1.310v.
The 4800 mhz is game stable. 4900 is basically a suicide run. Temps too high even on 100% fan, and VRM shutoff issues due to overcurrent (Zener diode) protection at this point.
BTW you should go back to LM. You can make it safe for traveling as long as you did what I did on my GT73VR and use extra precautions.
First, do what this guy did in his video and apply 3 coats of nail polish on the SMD resistors around the CPU. This can be used in place of super 33+ tape (you don't have to do both, just 1 or the other).
That is probably similar to the prep work you did already, but maybe without the transparent nail polish (I only use transparent nail polish, as that does the job of protecting the SMD's instead of Super 33+ or Kapton tape).
For the GPU, you need to be more thorough with the nail polish coats. You can get away with 1 coat on the CPU, but on the GPU makes sure you do 3 coats.
Now, for traveling, you want to stop LM from escaping the CPU and GPU areas entirely and getting on the mainboard, which will destroy something, and here's the trick for that:
Highly compressible foam dams (not dense foam, but foam that can be compressed with your fingers with no resistance to literally nothing:
Here's one cut out with the shape of the 7820HK CPU so the slug contacts the heatsink:
That keeps the LM fully trapped inside. It simply can't go anywhere!
For the GPU, you need a more square cutout and shape. Mr. Fox has a video and pictures of his. You can just search for Conductonaut foam dam.
This foam only works if it is VERY light and compresses easily down to nothing. If foam offers any more than token resistance at all, it will interfere with heatsink contact and be useless.Last edited: Mar 15, 2018Vistar Shook likes this. -
Just did a run with my desktop card in the graphics amplifier, clocked at 2100 but it hovers between 2000 and 2100 mhz. But as you can see the score is just barely better than my laptop 1070 @ 1949mhz. So the extra cuda cores do not matter that much. I lose some frames because I use my desktop 1070 in an external graphic box. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15122509
Regarding Gigabyte/Aorus, technology is my passion, I like to test hardware, I go in depth and its in general just one of my main interests. In the past I was a huge fan of Gigabyte but the past years they jsut drop the ball in so many ways. Skimping on battery quality, chassis quality and cooling (even on desktop boards, their ITX Ryzen & z370 boards boards have VRM heat problems because of the too small VRM heatsinks).
Thats why I call Gigabyte out on this forum for their products. I had to return multiple laptops from them, yet I kept testing newer generations and they never fixed the flaws.
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First of all that’s my old run. I’m not home yet.
There’s no agreeing with you. You told me I cannot beat 20,000.. which I can, and I have.. now you say it’s really hard to do so but it’s possible.
I can tell you right now.. based on your gpu scores your not holding close to 2,050mhz. You may have your offset applied where it would be 2,050 but the gpu is unable to sustain that.
My gpu holds about 1,886-1911mhz average steady during my last firestrike run. Of 19,928 graphics score.
Also you mentioned there tricks.. turning graphic quality to high performance? That only applies to anisotropic filtering quality which firestrike is not running anisotropic filtering. So, this does nothing.
Mine is set to default driver settings. Minus being on high performance “power setting” from optimal default.
But Really dude? You think I’m exaggerating with less than half of a 1% difference? 19,928 vs 20,017 is like a 0.048 % difference! Are you kidding me? Less than Half of a single percentage point is exaggerated ok...
But, my Aorus running its gtx1070 almost 9% faster than your 1070 is almost the same! Right ok!
I told you I’ve bested 20,000! I run daily at these settings. Because it’s stable. It’s a fast gpu! That’s all I was getting at this entire time. And it runs very cool while being only slightly behind a gtx1080.
I’ll have my links up tonight don’t worry, I’m only 0.048% away!
The Aorus uses one of the faster gtx1070’s and this is all I’ve been trying to get you to see this entire time!
Heck my desktop gtx1070 inside a desktop only achieves 20,700!
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Enjoy it! There blazing fast.
You have the 4K Pantone?
I thought 4K would be as good as useless.. boy was I wrong! I manage about 48-57 FPS avg in BF1 on ultra with no AA. It is just lovely!
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here are some temps! This is in NFS Payback very demanding utilizing almost every drop of the available 8GB hovering 66C at 4K with a full fat memory buffer.
The cooler temperatures represent much higher boost, low power draw and at 1080P hooked up to my tv
Hope this helps!
Ill be happy to post whatever you guys request. BF1 seems to hover around 59-61C at 4k
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I think the curve makes it tough with the X34 and light bleed. But its such a nice monitor regardless.
Wish I could afford one!
Walmart sells Gsync monitors now. I couldn’t believe it. I was in there the other day, and saw a HP Omen 28” monitor on display while I was grocery shopping. it’s a 165 hz Gsync panel for $589 They also had a 7700K/ gtx1070 desktop hp on display. Glad to see such items becoming so widely available!
It was everything I could do to not buy it, and spend money I don’t have.
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Next to that i havent pushed my gpu yet, you seem to have. Gigabyte has done nothing extra to make their 1070gtx run faster. Its not better than "others". And thats my whole point. They used a reference style amount of power phases in all laptops.
And no its not only anistrophic filtering. Texture filtering quality, anti aliasing quality etc can all be altered. Hell even the version of firestrike that you use matters.Last edited: Mar 16, 2018 -
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@tps3443 did you see my post........?
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*edit* your scores are similar to having a 1070 at a 150W TDP rather than 115W that most other systems have in the vbios. Wonder if that's the TDP.....
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I ran 4.9Ghz on only a single thread, 4.8 on the other 3. I just wanted to test single core speed to see how it could compete.
As for all the others cores. Best I could get was 4.8 on all 4 cores just for benching. It’s just to hot and to loud! My best in R15 was right at 1,010 which showed I was throttling below 4.8Ghz possiby. I am going to try the dam idea " I can picture exactly the type of foam your referring to" I will redo the liquid metal. Right now ive actually been running my cpu stock while maintaining tremendous undervolts. Ive been working on a gaming profile for 4k where my laptop is 100% silent. The GPU is easy, the CPU run about 10C hotter than the GPU in every scenario. After I redo the liquid metal again, I'm going to go back to extreme CPU overclocks again.
I did not spend a lot of time on R15 with it. Mostly chasing high physic scores in firestrike. I was trying to break 14,000
I can get higher scores if I run my GPU with less voltage, and underclocked. So I am really power limited. I'm sure theres a 330 watt power supply I could use possibly. But, I think my fireware is locked on how much power it can draw " 265 watts". But theres not a ton of information on the Aorus as there is on the GT73 VR etc. etc.
That's a ridiculously fast laptop you've got there btw.
It will crash the NVidia driver almost immediately if your overclocks are to high. Especially the memory. I know it is definitely harder to run than BF1.
If you turn on any amount of AA in this game while playing 4K get ready for a slide show, as the GPU is totally out of VRAM. The frame rate is reasonable for a racing game, but it will just micro stutter.
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That's a blazing CPU at 4.9Ghz.. The 7820HK has really achieved double the lifespan. it seems Intel has totally skipped 8th gen for high end BGA laptops. And intel is actually using 7th gen again in some other devices like the new Intel NUC with Vega IGP
4.9Ghz on a 7820HK is fast though. I was able to play all my games at 4.8Ghz, but my fan was literally stuck at 100%. And its loud! very loud.
Considering I'm using this thing for school, and rendering some things at time. I needed a quieter setup.
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Just registered my warranty. I’m good until 12/17/2019. I’m hard on pc hardware. This was another reason to remove liquid metal. There were no void warranty stickers on mine so removing the panel does not void anything.
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I'm not sure how stable 4900 mhz is. I didn't get any WHEA Errors in PUBG, but some high loads will just make the laptop shut off. Cinebench as I posted about 3 pages back, ran ok for 3 consecutive runs, but I didn't keep running it. Was too afraid of the VRM's shutting off. Also afraid of LM being "cooked" into the copper from high heat (even though LM itself can withstand over 120C) There's an "amps" current protection on these MSIbooks. Someone from India (a really nice guy) spoke to a MSI engineer who said that there is some calibration, where if the laptop were guaranteed to reach 100C with max fan speeds at a certain requested power draw (amps), the Zener diode (?) will shut the VRM's off. This calibration was based on traditional thermal paste however, so it's annoying when FMA3/AVX Prime95 loads or AIDA64 stress test makes the laptop shut off.
4700 mhz AVX/FMA3 *disabled* prime95 small FFT passed just fine (1.275 real voltage), and AIDA64 stress test ran for 2 minutes, but I knew it would eventually shut off since AIDA64 uses AVX Instructions so I quit the test.
Note that this is on a "TRUE" VID (voltage), which requires the unlocked Bios to access the Core I/A settings, and change IA AC DC Loadline to 1 (lowest value), because a value of 0 is either 1.80 or 2.10 mOhms of resistance added to the main voltage, based on load (at least 144mv, if not more). If I tried using the auto setting, the laptop would just shut off instantly. And normal users don't have access to the advanced settings unless they manually unlock their Bios menus (a guide was posted in the MSI section).Vistar Shook likes this. -
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I got it right. my Command control file was moved I guess. I finally found it. I'm going to try a larger charger.
Btw! Great idea with this. I set all 5 profiles how I wanted. The profiles were under X7Y7 which was a little confusing but it works.
I had to set undervolts just right id move the slider in CC and it would “Hard lock” haha. So I’d have to go back in and up the voltage and re save back over the profile.
Now its not locking up sliding between unstable profiles.
Aorus X5 V7, X7 V7, DT X7 all estimated for June release in USA
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