Aorus X5 V7, X7 V7, DT X7 all estimated for June release in USA

I do have the blue eagle but its the v6 non DT Been hoping to get a V7 esp since it was my target laptop when i heard that the refresh was coming out but they never delivered on time so i had to snag the v6

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Yes it's very quiet. Quieter than the x5 MD. It really wasn't that hard to take apart, it was just really weird since it's backwards than you would think. Once I figured out you had to lift the keyboard off, it was pretty simple.

 

Pretty sure the v6 and v7 trackpads are interchangable.

I wouldn't get to hung up about the v7. There are some things about the v6 I liked better. The palmrest edges for example. I also found the performance on the v6 DT to be better when overcloked. If it wasn't for the interlaced qhd screen, I would still have the v6.

 

Oh you took it apart? Where there warranty void stickers that prevent you from fully opening it up?

 

Ok the heatsinks, yes. So repasting would void the warranty I guess. I didn't experience that bad of thermals though.

 

What are the chance that anyone here knows someone or a reseller or company that would accept a used laptop? Just curious

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Hmm according to a couple of posts in the Aorus forums they said repasting didnt void warranty as long as nothing was visibly damaged in the process

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I was talking about the Zephyrus, sorry

 

I'd say that the TG paste dropped roughly 10ish degrees celcius back when i was home in Malaysia where its basically high 30c everyday. My heatsink has a pretty good fit so good contact and very little differential. Havent tried IC with this laptop yet

 

I am wondering if aorus x7 v7 dt users can help....I am between choosing laptops with a 1080 and the alienware and aorus were on my list. I was also really interested in the SC17 but there is no info on them, so I decided to get one to test for 30 days.
The Alienware, although it can perform really well, it seems to be a lot work with heatsink rebalance, repaste, pch mod and such to get the great performance it is capable of, and even then perhaps sort of a lottery? So far, I am happy with the SC17, it might need a repaste for good OC though, but it seems most systems with the HK chip do. My question is what are the firestrike graphics score can I expect on the x7 v7 dt with a gpu OC? I will sell my smaller systems so a somewhat portable 1080 is interesting, also I feel a 4k screen is not the best fit fir the 1080, 1440p seems more adequate, since scaling to that resolution is not the best option at 4k.

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Any commentary on the HID repaste? Trying to decide if I should do it myself or check the box.

 

Always worth it to have someone more experienced do it for you esp if youre going the LM route. Plus HID offers repadding now so thats a bonus

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I can handle the paste job but I'm getting lazy in my old age and I'm not overly worried about saving a buck. The point is now moot however, I've bought in and had the paste included. It turns out it will arrive only a few days before I'm going overseas for 6 weeks or so and I'm going to have to burn some of that valuable pre-departure time clean installing windows already so I'm going on past experience with HID and hopeful their work is still decent.

To the thread in general I'll be using the excellent tutorial that Phoenix did and to that end I've downloaded the drivers and utilities. Got some questions about those... Some of these are labeled as drivers but look like utilities to me, I've sorted out all but two of them. Those being Xsplit broadcaster, Xsplit gamecaster, as near as I can tell they allow me to broadcast gaming live? I'll never use that but do they serve any other purpose such as simply casting to a TV? If not I wont be installing them.

Things that are actually drivers include one called System backup, this is just all the drivers rolled into one package installer? This will be my first thunderbolt driver install, where should I put it in the driver install order?

I suppose I should have said up front, new lappy is a QHD X7 DT V7, ditched the configured drives for a single 1 terabyte 2.5" SSD, upped the ram to 24, and added the paste. I've been through about a half dozen DTRs running north of 10 lbs and I'm getting tired of lugging them around. We'll see if I'm kicking myself in the butt in a month or two for not getting the big dog this time around...

 

I didn't see it in the thread and I forgot to mention it, those considering the HID no name spec 2.5" SSD in 512 GB, 1 TB or 2 TB, it's the Crucial MX-300. An FYI for inquiring minds.

 

Regarding the xsplit 'drivers,' yes, they're just for casting; I skipped them on my work image when I did a clean install and, as expected, no issues.
Regarding System Backup, it's a utility that allows you to create a usb backup/restore, however, I'm fairly certain that it's not an actual image of the OS but rather the equivalent of the recovery partition on the drive (aka, the created usb will not have any of your changes, but instead would would put you back to factory condition). Personally, I don't think there's a point to these anymore since you have a recovery partition on the drive anyway, and really, with windows 10 and the aorus driver update utility, doing a clean install is probably faster then using the usb backup and then updating all the drivers and windows updates. If you really care about backups, then a make proper by using windows to create a system image, or something like macrium or acronis.
Regarding driver installation order, it should not matter; also, I would avoid downloading drivers off of Aorus site and instead just download the driver update utility and use that to install all drivers. This will save you time because the utility seems to be well ahead of the contents of the site (so if you end up installing the drivers from the site, you'll just end up updating them afterwards).

 

Thanks. I'll skip the xsplit stuff then, I've other means to cast anyways. I'll be losing the recovery partition during the setup process, I maintain multiple images to cover bad days because I go where there is no internet. Interesting about the drivers, usually it's the other way around. Do you know if the update utility will find and install all the drivers from a clean windows installation? Usually those things wont find all the hardware and install drivers for everything. Also I'd want to skip the xsplit, would the utility install that?

 

I did a fresh install. The update utility takes care of everything. No regrets at all - I'm very happy it. You can install and ignore whatever you want. Your choice.

 

Like Derek mentioned above, you pick and choose which drivers you want to install, so you simply skip the two xsplit ones. I'd also consider skipping the touchpad ones and going with windows precision drivers instead.

 

Roger, thanks guys. I had forgot about the touchpad drivers, I consider it. I'm pretty darn close to 100% mouse and that small fraction I don't use it comes in when I try and pause my game so I can find the cord to plug in my mouse.

I had noticed there is no DT lounge but then again it would probably be a lonely place by the look of things.

 

I said a X7 DT V7 lounge would be a lonely place.

Echo

Echo...

ECHO......

 

Lol, I think there's probably about 4-5 active users with one. Yes, we're better off keeping a combined thread I think.

 

It's really putting a damper on my being able to live vicariously through others while I wait for my lappy to show up! lol

 

I went ahead and added some text to the op to reflect how this has basically become an owner's lounge thread. But I didn't see a way to change the thread title itself, is that not possible?

 

You have to ask a moderator.

 

Or start a new one. You'd have to figure out which laptops would logically fit in together. In my mind all of the above and perhaps include the V6's as well. I haven't been through all the threads but they have little action on the X7 DT V6 official thread and those guys might be ahead of the game getting included into one bigger master thread as well. The laptops have a lot of similarities at the least and are very similar in some cases. Just something to think about, one thing I liked about the Clevo's is they always had active threads and the knowledge in them is pretty darn useful. A lot more owners there make single device owner threads practical. Here I think combining might get us to a critical mass that could bring in more activity for everyone. Maybe I'm off base...?

 

So there I was... looking at tracking numbers... finally... little excited...

 

Has anyone recently purchased an X7 with the 3k option? I am wondering if the 3k screens still have the visible lines in them which seemed to be present due to the high refresh rate.

 

They don't. It's the updated version of the screen, same as with the AW17.

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On Thursday I'll examine one and verify.

 

V6 has it while its not present on the V7, (I have both the V6 and V7).

 

Thanks for the confirm.

 

Having both a V6 and a V7, not sure what that is but the tech geek part of me likes it. lol While I'm here does anyone have a link to the user manual? I found what is called a manual on their site but it's actually just a very short quick start guide. I was trying to figure out which buttons for the bios and startup menu as I'm going to clean install, tracking shows tomorrow.

 

Ok... I guess I'll just have to hold down the usual suspects while booting till I find them. I noticed the mobo's are DEL and F12, probably be the go to first try.

 

It's F2 for BIOS and F12 for startup menu as a data point for those who might be looking for it later. As a further data point no amount of tapping those or any other button actually worked for either. In both cases I was forced to go to settings/updates & security/Recovery/Advanced restart/troubleshoot/advanced options/UEFI firmware/restart to get into both. Also... I hate the bird on my trackpad, gotta cover that up with something.

 

When you were booting the machine, did you see a message at the bottom of the screen that contained the F2/F12 instructions? If not, then you were 'fast booting' which bypasses the ability to enter the bios; you have to either do a restart (not hibernate nor shutdown, unless you disable fast-boot) or press and hold the power button until the machine starts and then restarts.

 

Yeah, had that at the bottom, also showed F9 for recovery. No amount of holding, mashing, trying for the golden key press got me in to either. I didn't see fast boot in the BIOS, in fact I didn't seem much of anything in there, really low rent for a gaming machine. Now I have to figure out how to disable whatever the hell it is that is keeping me from pressing multiple keys together. I know I read something about it somewhere...

 

Off to bed. I did load Doom to have a quick look at the performance and she most def runs nicely. Fan noise is not all that bad and HIDs paste job is looking good, lowest core was 74 and highest was 77. Those temps were still going up, I was maybe a half hour of play time into it when I stopped.

 

OK, this keyboard thing is really getting me torqued. I've several games where I need to push multiple buttons in the same area at the same time and I'm not finding any solutions to this stupid ghosting thing. Turns out you cant create a macro that does it either which just adds to the fun. Talk about idiotic, a gaming laptop and you cant use multiple keys.

 

Ran more extensive testing, all cores still holding at no more than a 3 degree differential which is as good as I've seen. Kudos has to be given to HID on their paste job, at idle cores are often only a degree apart and I've yet to see more than 3 so if you're reading this Donald please pass on my regards to the tech that did the work, job well done.

I gotta say also, as I've browsed the forums I've read a lot about how loud the fans are, I don't agree. Nah, it's in no way quiet but I think some of you have missed out on just how loud laptops can get. I've had a number that were louder but admittedly I've been on DTRs with desktop parts for the most part. Still this one doesn't have a painful high pitched scream some can have and it really just isn't all that loud compared to other fire breathing gaming laptops, in fact it cant be heard over my Clevo when the two are sitting next to each other running as a point of comparison. All that said those that are fan averse and know it really should consider looking elsewhere.

Pretty busy here as I'm heading over seas shortly but in my stress tests I topped out at 87 with the overclock in on the stock C&C software. Not so good but not terrible. It may or may not have been throttling, didn't have time to look that close. I'm probably going to undervolt to see where that takes me when I get more time.

 

About that QHD screen, I was ambivalent about taking a step back in screen tech but I have to admit that as a whole it works. The resolution is well matched to the available power and it's a win for gamers as it looks great in game. I suspect those doing serious work in various graphics fields will be much less pleased with it but those types would know better than to put a check in the box. In any event 120 hz is all win with a dollop of awesome sauce for gamers that don't have those needs. It isn't something you can see in tube videos but little things like moving windows around on the screen are suddenly smoother. It's a subtle thing that isn't easy to describe and doesn't jump out at you but you notice it immediately. I'll be honest here, I thought the 120 hz thing was little more than upsell with no real world benefit. I was wrong. I'm thinking it will be a year or so before I buy another lappy and I'm hopeful at that point 4k will be viable for gaming and that 120 hz screens will be available. I'm going to be all over that one.

Oh, no lines as seen on (some?) V6 screens.

 

you should just need to update the keyboard firmware (easiest way is via the Drivers Update program)

 

Nothing in my update says anything about the keyboard. What is it called in yours?

 

You can do this in aorus fusion app, click the cog in the upper right.

 

Did that already, and am on the latest fusion version. Are you saying that includes drivers and isn't just the light control?

 

The firmware should take care of everything but this was my assumption. Do you have a test that you perform to simulate the issue? I have done some testing and I can't duplicate with my own testing.

 

I run into it anytime I need to use a modifier like shift, control, and so on with multiple key presses, there is a limit of the modifier and 2 simultaneous keystrokes, no more will register. Outside of modifiers I can get up to four which is enough in my use. I haven't been able to set a macro to do the former either although I clearly don't understand the macro setup because at no time can I get the side buttons such as the one that moves a command up or down the chain active.

 

About storage... I opted to delete the M.2 PCIe and the mech storage drive the laptop comes with and went to a 1 Ter SATA SSD. This because I had read repeatedly about it making almost no real world difference in use. It's been shown many times that games load at a max of a little better than 200 megs and most other software has similar loading throughput. It had ocurred to me that I had seen a tube video showing boot speed to the desktop on an X7 so I thought I would compare mine with the video time in a highly unscientific and unrepeatable test. In this case despite that it's good enough to get to my point. The tube video used a cell phone stopwatch which was started at the same time as the power button was mashed to produce a 18.5 second time to the desktop opening up. I did the same except I had to put in my password and came up with 21.24 seconds. The implication here is that actual real world boot times are probably similar.

Bottom line it appears to me that the internet has it right. The M.2 stuff is going to produce a much faster benchmark and for some users can be a benefit but those who opt to go with the cheaper SATA SSDs are probably not going to taste regret. Certainly I'm not.

Related, that moving the SD card reader over to PCI Express makes a huge difference, I've never seen anything remotely close to the transfer speeds this thing gets from SD. I did know it was done but wasn't aware just how much of an improvement it makes. I could see it being a viable long term on board storage solution for things like an MP3 collection.

 

it's certainly based on use-case; if you are just using the laptop for content consumption like internet and games, then nvme is most likely overkill, and if you have a limited budget then you'll get a lot more bang-for-your-buck by going with the cheaper sata ssd instead of nvme (especially since you can get alot more space for the same price).
However, if you're a content provider, like development or video editing, then the performance gain is very real. Another major difference you'll notice is in hibernation times since you're writing the entire contents of the RAM to the drive. I have 64gigs of RAM in x5 so that can take a while on a slow drive if I've got a bunch of stuff running. I use hibernation to switch between two running windows installations, one on an nvme ssd and the other sata ssd. The nvme hibernates and wakes up from hibernation in about a third/quarter of the time (so 5 seconds vs 15-20). Since I switch between these multiple times a day, it's a noteworthy gain. I also do daily system image backups; the time it takes to create and copy it is also significantly improved in the nvme case. For me, main drawback of nvme is lack of edrive support (hardware encryption).
Also, if you're using page files to swap out to the ssd, then I would expect large gains there as well.

 

Another tidbit for prospective purchasers, it would seem the usb charger on the power supply is not so bad. My phone doesn't show quick charge but nevertheless went from 55% to full in 50 minutes. No accolades but enough to be useful.

 

I have two of questions for Aorus X5 v7 owners:

1. How easy is it to open the laptop to clean the fans? (Detailed reply appreciated. Namely the approximate number of screws, type of screws, and necessity to remove certain parts to access the interior)
2. Would doing so void the warranty?

Thanks.