Aorus X5 V7, X7 V7, DT X7 all estimated for June release in USA

Nice. I'll load it up once i get home. Thanks for the info.

No problems so far?

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Nope no problems here. Good luck.

 

How is the Rrrrr key problem going? Is it due to Windows repeat key being on and a sensitive R key that hangs up and keeps sending output? Or is it a broken keyboard?
@mason2smart

 

Sounds like it. I sent mine in for RMA.

 

Gulp*
Little worried about my v7 coming

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Regarding the keyboard issues I've read about the X5 V7, in which multiple keys pressed at once do not register, does this also concern command keyboard shortcuts such as CNTRL + SHIFT + ALT + E (for Indesign)? Or is the issue only applicable to letter keys (Q+A+S)?

 

Every keyboard is designed for some expected multi key control-shift-meta-coke-bottle strokes, so no they should all work as expected.

The key ghosting issue, or repeat issue, sounds like a physical issue as described, if RMA'd and keyboard replacement fixes it we can relax, so I hope everyone that is RMA'ing to fix the repeating key issue posts their results.

 

That clarifies the issue, thanks!

Has anyone measured the idle and load noise output for their X5's?
I am wondering how well it fares when put up against its competitors for this category.

 

really depends on the fan profile/curve you're using. If it's on anything other than 'quiet' profile, than the fans seem to idle at 30% (even customize and deep control do not allow for anything lower than 30%) which makes it very quiet but still audible in a noiseless room. If you instead set it to the 'quiet' profile, then it's nearly silent, and by that I mean that I can't really hear it at a normal sitting position, but if I place my ear near the exhaust, you can hear some noise (so fans, or at least the left one, are still running, but maybe at 10%).

tldr; I would consider noise at idle good, and great with the 'quiet' profile.

 

Due to the keyboard's spacebar (and F row) not always activating when pressed, I'm stuck trying to figure out if I want to do a replacement of my current x5 v7, or order another one and then return this one, or nothing at all. Unfortunately, Newegg won't send out a replacement until they receive the original, so I either have to wait 1-2 weeks to get a replacement, or order another and return this one, but then I would loose the ability to return the new one since the return policy for the x5 v7 is now 'replacement only'..... though I don't think that that's a big deal since I expect to stick with the x5, as overall, it's a great laptop.

Can anyone with the x5 v7/MD check if they're able to press down a key (spacebar especially, but also F row, which I use pretty frequently in IDEs), without having it get registered? If I press the keys with extra force, it's not an issue, and the spacebar seems like it might be getting better, so maybe it's just taking time to break-in, or I'm adapting.

Oh, and one other thing, can try (left side) ctrl+shift with their thumb and let me know if they're able to press the two buttons together easily/comfortably? On my x5, those keys, when pressed, go below the metal frame, which means that my thumb has a hard time pressing both of them together since the metal divider is in the way. This is not anything I blame Aorus for, since normally a user does 1 finger to 1 key, but I tend to hit ctrl+shift (thumb) + tab (index finger) quite frequently to cycle through tabs in browsers and IDEs.

 

It's an expensive option, but you could ask Newegg to put another one on your credit card with the understanding that you plan to return one of the two after checking them out side by side, so don't charge you restocking fee.

 

tried that with the person on live chat, and they said they won't do replacement until they receive the original one. I will say that the spacebar seems to be improving..... thought the F row is still the same, probably cause I don't use it much; I'm also noticing similar behavior with Tab, for example, when I hold it down while in a game to keep the overlay/menu visible, it sometimes flashes, indicating that the button is on a hair trigger even when held down, so extra force must be used.

 

Ah, and one other thing regarding the keyboard; I'm curious if the spacebar is louder than all the other keys for everyone, or just me.

 

Yes the spacebar is louder but I actually like it that way.

 

Is there an owner's lounge for DT V7 or should I ask here? How is battery life? Are quality issues widespread?
(Gigabyte, c'mon, that's why people pay extra for Razer/Apple, at least they are assembled properly)

 

Apple sure, but Razer has their own set of issues...

 

With Razer, the exterior build is the only good thing about it. It has numerous internal design flaws that make their laptops poor choices, especially for the price.

Agreed.

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I wouldn't give apple such a clean slate, I have the 2016 Mac Book Pro with the, horrible, touch bar and it has its own issues like thermal throttling and keyboard keys not always registering (the half-size up/down arrow keys....and the keyboard in general is rubbish, feels like you're banging your fingers against a flat table, but that's by, poor, design). Oh, and the battery life is great, as long as you're not doing anything, but as as soon as you start doing something productive that actually stresses the CPU, you can watch the battery percentage numbers drop. The aluminium uni-body is amazing though.

 

You got my gist: a premium-priced product shouldn't normally have (widespread) bleed/assembly/software issues. They even made a separate brand to pass it off as premium, but can't keep quality in line? Aero 15 might cannibalize X3/X5 that way.
Also, Aorus never got back to me, but the 120hz panel on the X5 is no more? That's one less purchase option less then

 

http://techreport.com/review/32246/aorus-x5-v7-gaming-laptop-reviewed

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I'm looking for some words of wisdom from someone that has done a RAM replacement on the x5 v7 (or x7/x3 and the v6 models if applicable), perhaps one of the professionals from @GenTechPC , XoticPC ( @Tanner@XoticPC), HIDevolution, etc. I bought 64 gigs (4x16) of the same RAM the laptop came with (G.Skill 2400 CL16s) and after installing them, the laptop would not POST (blank screen with constant 10 sec. boot loop). I tried resetting the CMOS by unplugging the main and CMOS batteries and power cycling, but no change. To try some debugging, I then took out the 2 DIMMs that were previously empty (aka, the easily accessible ones), and the laptop POSTs, but only recognizing 1 of the 2 installed sticks (which, I'll note, means it recognized 16GB of RAM, which is the same as the original amount the laptop came with, but 2x8GB). Thinking, maybe, some of the new sticks are faulty, I figured I'd try and plug in the original sticks in those 2 slots and see what happens, and again the laptop did not POST, which leads me to believe that there is likely nothing wrong with the new RAM, but rather something, BIOS, preventing the machine from recognizing and POSTing with any additional RAM. There's some more debugging I can do, but it entails full disassembly to get to the back 2 slots, which I'd like to do the least number of times, so I'm hoping someone knows the magic ingredient I'm missing to making this work.

On a side note, since I did have to do a full teardown, I figured I'd repaste the CPU/GPU with some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (chickened out of using liquid metal), along with FujiPoly Ultra Extreme Pads, and got some impressive results that I'll have to post about later, once I get this RAM issue resolved, but as a teaser, the 'quiet fan profile' is now completely silent.

 

If you do a full disassembly again, is there any chance you'd be willing to film it, take some pictures, and/or share tips and your thoughts on the process? There's precious little information on replacing the RAM in those other 2 slots, and I believe not even a picture of that side of the X5's motherboard anywhere.

 

Confirmed with Aorus they don't plan to offer a 120hz panel with X5, neither the v7 nor MD. Shame really

 

That's a poor move.


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I guess that depends on the buyer, but a nice IPS 60hz is preferable to me over a 120hz TN for image quality.

Especially in a thin laptop that has cooling issues to begin with, putting in a double hz / FPS display makes no sense.

If you can run at 60 FPS in a laptop, and the cooling can handle it, doubling the FPS to 120 FPS and load on CPU / GPU to attain that throughput can and will cause thermal issues, at least the fans will get too loud - much louder than at 1/2 throughput.

At 120 FPS, which is impossible in many games with a power throttled 1070 / 1080, every game will be running effectively unlimited FPS under 120 FPS, using maximum CPU and GPU power for no good reason.

If you have a thin laptop and have heating / cooling noise issues, try using Afterburner / RTS to limit game FPS to 60, at least under 120 substantially, to get a better overall experience - with less heat and noise. It's a waste of the 120hz display, but it wasn't well suited to a thin laptop build anyway. Whisper Mode runs at 30-40 FPS.

If you really want high FPS approaching 120 FPS in a AAA title, you'll need a full power 1080 or desktop 1080ti to get there, not a power throttled laptop 1070 / 1080.

Shipping a 120hz display in these laptops would be an implied promise of performance the laptop couldn't keep / deliver.

I think it's far more honest for Aorus to admit it's a bad idea by not offering a 120hz display.

 

Considering there are 15" 120hz IPS displays now, it is pretty disappointing not to see that option.

 

Fallout 4 @ 100-120 fps for 2 hours+ gives gpu temps max of 58*C

Far Cry 4 @ 80-100 fps for many hours gives gpu temps max of 55*C.

Too many wasted frames on a lower hz display.


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You must have the quality settings reduced way down to get those speeds out of Fallout 4, and at those quality settings the image isn't going to be great to start, so a TN panel might be ok.

They aren't wasted frames if frames generated are limited to 60hz by G-sync / V-sync / RTSS, that's saved GPU and CPU power.

That's the point I was making, run lower FPS to reduce load at higher quality settings.

You can reduce quality settings, which will also reduce thermal load, and get more FPS - but then the quality is too low. Image quality is a higher priority for me than FPS, there's no real gain for me going high FPS over high quality.

It's up to personal preference which way you go, but going low quality images and low quality screen just to get higher FPS isn't my preferred way to run.

 

Kinda disappointed to read this (120hz) on the X5 as I ordered one but oh well, as long as it looks good it shouldn't matter.

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Anyone do a Fire Strike Stress Test on their x7 DT v7? I am curious about any throttling and what this would mean in real world applications.

 

Nope:

I'm not sure what I need to save power for when gaming? I want to throw everything the machines capable of at the game to have the best experience possible.

(Above images from my original review.)

Just to add to this, ultra settings @ 1080p it outperforms the Tornado F5 with a desktop i7-7700K @ 4.2GHz and GTX 1070.

 

That's my point, of course you would want to run your expensive laptop at full power all the time, running at 99% utilization, at highest FPS.

Fallout 4 @ Ultra on a GTX 1070 laptop at or near 99% GPU utilization all of the time, would only occasionally reach 120FPS:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Laptop.169549.0.html

In a thin and light laptop, pushing GPU 99% utilization means the highest thermal load requiring the highest fan output the whole time.

If you do mind the high heat load and the noise, you wouldn't want to run a 1070 at 99% in a thin laptop like that, would you? Showing the temps while the fans are blazing at 100% is nice, but noisy.

What temps, utilization, and fan noise level does running at 60 FPS in comparison show? 90 FPS? And, check the other game FPS @ Ultra listed in that link, few games get near 120 FPS with a 1070 gaming at Ultra.

 

Peopla are different. I do not always feel like racing for the highes possible FPS. In allmost all SP Games I am completely satisfied with 60 FPS, still I appreciate the benefit of a 120 hz display that comes from the far better refres rate.

Best regards

phila

P.S.: When it comes to Fallout 4 (which I have finished playing quite some tima ago): I prefered lower but more constant FPS as the game - due to the engine / CPU limitation - would cause heavy drops in some areas of the map.

 

I Can't access my Aorus Fusion... Can't use my Macros, and got White LED only. How can I Fix it? Everytime I install Firmware (1.1.2 , 1.1.4 , 1.1.8) it says ''Connect AP Fail''. Help me please... Thanks Before.

 

I get the point @hmscott is making, but choice editing/limiting is rarely a consumer-friendly move. Some people just like the higher refresh rate, some want it for less demanding games. Plus, they offered a 120hz panel on a V6.
Possibly they couldn't get enough yield this time. Regardless, an otherwise suitable option for me got nixed.
At least they still do the 1440p 120hz on the X7

 

Anyone using VR headsets on their v7s?

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Is anyone able to confirm whether the macro keys can be used to assign mouse button commands?

 

Yep they can. Its under the record macros section

 

Great to hear! Now I am fully convinced about buying an x5 v7. Unfortunately the version with a QWERTY keyboard is unavailable in Europe. I just recieved the message that Gigabyte plans to "unveil" their lineup within the next three months. Yeah right...

Having seen this review: https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/gigabyte_aorus_x5_v7_review,4.html
It seems like the UK version uses a QWERTY (US-international) keyboard, so I might just have to import a unit and get a replacement power cable for use in a different powersocket.

 

Tell them what you want, that's how they know

Maybe Aorus will offer it if enough people ask?

 

Nvm there is a UK keyboard according to Scan UK.

 

So, I just got my Aorus X5V7. It did have the keyboard issue with Shift+Control+ any lower key.
Updated to 1.1.8 and fixed that.
But when holding shift+control. + Alt=Z. + windows key= Z, + space = B.
Gave up after that, just thought it was funny.
I am currently updating all the drivers.
Next is undervolt. I hear that XTU doesnt like Command and control. But there was some sort of work around that I cant seem to locate.
Can someone point me to that. Or is that bug fixed?

 

Doesn't like C&C? What do you mean by that?

For me C&C had no issues with XTU. Overclocks through both software packages went through just fine

 

Never mind.
I used throttlestop to undervolt.

 

If the keyboard problem persist, atleast you can use the macros keys to make the combinations you need.

 

Oh, by the way. My Trackpad has the Blue hawk head thingy.
I actually like it. It's a nice pretty color.

If it matters, It was "pulled from inventory" Aug 24th. from Xotic PC

 

It seems the standard models have blue and they punish you if you get the DT or MD models.

 

Wasn't it supposed to be old vs new stock? They seriously should just offer this as an option

 

I am under the impression that the X5 models with a 4k display have the orange eagle, whereas the 3k display features the blue eagle on the trackpad. Atleast that's as far as I've seen people post and mention in reviews. It would have been better for Aorus to mention this on their product page instead of: "the colour of the trackpad depends on reseller" stuff.

Has anyone tried to undervolt/underclock the gpu in order to decrease overall temps? And since the bios is locked for overclocking, does this have any implications on MSI afterburner where certain sliders are greyed out?

 

I believe voltages of the gpu are locked on mobile for these, so underclocking would be the only choice. Regardless, temps for the GPU are not an issue as they hover between 80-85 in the gaming fan profile, and drop to mid 70s on max fans. The GPU seems to be power limited (you won't be able to OC much), not thermal. The CPU on the other hand, can get very hot very quickly, and can use an undervolt, especially when OCing.