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    AORUS Gaming Notebooks with Pascal, RGB LED keyboards - GTX 1060/1070/1080 13.9"/15.6"/17.3"

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. Mobius 1

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    need a picture of that x7 dt v6 1080 internals
     
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    Seems like that guy in the vid had the normal x7 v6 and listed the pricing for the x7 dt v6?
     
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    Xotic PC: AORUS X7 V6-PC3K4D - Full Review
     
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    So does the new X5 come with only a 200w psu and the X7 (1070) comes with a 230w?
     
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    Thermals were a little better than I was expecting. 76C isn't too bad.
     
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    They did not review the display! Forgotten or intentional since the quality is not good?
     
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    Well mate your wish for a 1080 equipped Razer notebook just got granted
     
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    For the low low starting price of just $3700.
     
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    Apparently the 1440p 120hz screen of the X7 V6 have been plagued with a default. There are lots of reports of every other line of pixels being much dimmer which gives off a stripey screen effect.

    Aorus themselves are sending mixed messages about this but are kind of saying there is not a problem and that's how the screen is suppose to be. I'm thinking/hoping there are people at Aorus who are trying to rectify this in a new batch and this could be causing delays?
     
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    Hey guys, just wanted to give an update on the x5. I emailed a rep about the fhd 120hz model and they said it would be out early November on newegg.
     
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    That is very true hahaha. Looks like the X7 DT is the more appealing option for the time being
     
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    The X7 DT looks like it could be a great machine, the only thing that haunts my mind is the fact its using a 230watt power brick. This gives me the initial thought that it will be power limited / starved and hindering performance in some area. I really hope this isn't the case but the only way around this would be by using the battery boost methods which works short term.
     
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    AORUS X5 V6-PC3K3D - Full Review:
     
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    Thank you for posting this, was just going to ask the same thing. Wonder if Sager will be getting one as well in their 15"... The Aorus just feels too expensive and the fan noise is high though they do seem like excellent machines but at a grand more... Once you start looking into them you easily get into the range of the X7 DT which I would have never planned to look at but the cost difference seems so little depending on how you equip these laptops.
     
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    It's either gonna be the X7 V6 or the P670RS also with the 1070. The QHD 120hz screen, keyboard lighting, much higher capacity battery and the marginally lighter weight are the things drawing me to the X7. Not too worried about temps as i will repaste using liquid metal thermal compound regardless. CPU is gonna get a hefty undervolt as well. Thoughts guys?
     
  16. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Looks like the X7 DT is going for $3,099, and comes with a bunch of extras.
    The MSI GT73VR is going for almost the same price. However, the Aorus has a two-year warranty, and a QHD display instead of FHD. So overall the X7 DT seems pretty reasonable. Well, reasonable as far as a GTX 1080 in a notebook is concerned, anyway.

    Charles
     
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    The Titan is now shipping with a 4K AUO panel. Also, is the the two year warranty local or does it go international? I plan to get the X7 just before i leave to further studies overseas
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

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    It says Global on the warranty sticker on the notebook, I'd take it to mean international, but there's no harm in contacting Gigabyte to be sure.

    Charles
     
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    global from what i know. previously owned a gigabyte laptop but the aorus are pretty much the same company. its like the their elite models.
     
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    Anyone tried the X7DT v6? HID has it available already and I can't make myself to buy it before I see some feedback.. Looks too good to be true..

    Any pioneers? :D
     
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    Yah I received my dt v6 2 days ago.
    Global 2 year warranty and you deal with gigabytes service centers as well.
    I've posted most of my benchmark results and thoughts on the official aorus forums.
    The jist of it is -
    Thermals are good. fans go up to 4700 rpm. loud but laptop not propelling itself away from the desk yet.
    80 degree for gpu and 65 to 70 degrees for cpu.
    Both overclocked with aorus overclock gauge at lvl 4
     
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    What kinda thermal compound would yall recommend if I were to do a cpu gpu repaste.
    Still waiting to hear back from Aorus to see how much they'll charge to do it at the service center. as opening the laptop otherwise will void the warranty.
    Oh registering your laptop gives you 3 months extended warranty.
     
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    How about a performance test, 3dMark firestrike. I would like to see how well the v6 dt 230 watt adapter deals with the power needs if possible.

    Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk
     
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    IC Diamond is always popular and has been well tested. If you want even more, then you can go with a conductive compound like CLU (or grizzly conductonaut, which seems to be becoming popular as well), but obviously be careful since those two are conductive. If you feel uneasy about doing the repaste yourself, especially regarding warranty, just get a re-seller to do it for you like GentechPC or XoticPC.
     
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    Thanks, i'll see if I can find those in Taiwan. The gigabyte service center is really close, Aorus Marketing did say we could take it in to have the service center do the thermal repaste, so I'll see if I get do that sometime this week.

    As unfortunately I didn't buy any benchmark software, just running the in game benchmarks that comes with various games.
    I have Deus Ex Mankind divided as well - that was a pretty demanding game I could try on the Aorus.
     
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    Its free software and available through steam even, you can purchase the extended version but the base is free.
     
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    Ah didn't notice the free demo.
    i'll give that a shot

    did try the deus ex mankind divided benchmark earlier.
    ultra settings benchmark was at 45 fps average.
    temps gpu 75 cpu low 60s.
    fans up to 4500 rpm
     
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    I posted some of my results on the Aorus forum.
    http://forum.aorus.com/forum/gaming-laptops/39686-just-ordered-x7-dt-v6-should-arrive-tomorrow/page2

    Through various tests I took screen shots of the OC Gauge to check temps and work load. It wouldn't let me overlay it on top of the benchmark so I just did it right each benchmark.
    You can see the varying load on cpu and gpu
    CPU got up to 85 degrees when the load was really high. In normal gaming sessions I've hardly see it over 65 degrees.
    3.876 +- 10 is the idle clock rate of cpu.
    At 85 Degrees it does ever so slightly throttles to 3792 -3817
     
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    Looks really promising! I wonder how temps/noise would be after a nice repaste :3
     
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    Do you guys have any experience with the following Thermal compound?
    Arctic-CoolingMX-4 Cooler Master Extreme Fusion X1 Cooler Master MASTERGEL MAKER NANO
    They're more readily available in Taiwan.

    And how many grams should I purchase? they come in 4g, 20g, and so on.
    To do the cpu and gpu.

    If yall can recommend one and tell me how much I need, i'll have it shipped to me within a day and take it down to gigabyte to have it repasted. Then i'll do some more tests to see how much it helps
     
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    From my limited experience on these forums people don't recommend it. Go for IC Diamond, Grizzly Kryonaut or Gelid Extreme as they seem to be the most commonly recommended. I'd personaly go for either ICD or Kryonaut.

    Cheers!
     
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    I don't know if a 1080 laptop is really a good idea... There is so much heat and fan noise. I guess if you use your PC only in a gaming setting it doesn't matter. But I use my laptop mainly in the living room with my girlfriend and the noise from my GS60 is bad enough. For those reasons alone even the 1070 X7 V6 is probably out of the question for me. I'm very strongly considering the GT73VR with a 1070 just for better cooling and less noise even though it is twice or more as thick as my GS60 and it is 2.5 times the weight. When I bought my laptop I used to move around a lot more and game at friends houses all the time, now I mainly just keep it on the coffee table and move to my office as needed. Since I do use it in the living room a desktop setup is pretty much out of the question unless I could build a small enough tower, something I should consider I suppose.

    Another fact on the GT73VR is that so far it has the best 120hz 17" screen as it is IPS as well and all others I've read about are TN.

    AND even more interesting is the new Razer Blade Pro with a 1080 and being so small and thin with almost no ventilation but some voodoo with their vapor chamber. I'm very curious to see what happens there, I'm guessing it will be under-clocked.
     
  33. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Judge based on the real-world performance. It's possible for a GTX 1060-equipped notebook with a poor cooling system to run hotter than a GTX 1080 notebook with a good cooling system The Razer you spoke of is not out yet, it's not possible to say how effective its cooling will be.

    Earlier this year I visited Cooler Master in Taipei, Taiwan and interviewed their staff about notebook cooling. Take a look here. In essence, some very significant strides have been made in cooling designs over the past year or two, like vapor chambers. Notebook makers (and anyone with a thermal engineering need in general) will contract Cooler Master to help them design their cooling. They will basically tell Cooler Master they want to cool X components with this thermal output in X size chassis. Cooler Master will do the entire design, or consult with them and tell them whether it'll work, etc. So the cooling systems in notebooks today are engineered at some point to work to a specification. The proof again is in the real world results. No matter how many heatpipes or vapor chambers or fans something has, I would not make any assumptions until I saw real-world temperature readings while the system is under load for an extended period.

    P.S. The GT73VR's 120Hz screen is TN, not IPS. I don't know of a 120Hz notebook screen that's not TN. Same with the QHD 120Hz screen on the Aorus X7 v6 ...it's TN.

    Charles
     
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    120hz ips = 25-27ms
    120hz ips = ~5ms



    you also have this joke of a cooling system here
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/repaste-those-razer-blade-2015s-at-your-own-risk.771707/
     
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    Yes, we will have to see what it is like, maybe they will come through and blow us all away. But at this time I can't believe they will magically make such high levels of heat magically disappear with little ventilation, it might cool at levels SIMILAR to what we've seen which is still way too hot for me, but maybe it won't be as loud?

    I do know that the GT73VR screen is often labled as one of the best 120 HZ 17" screens out there. And on Xotic PC Custimization they list the following under Display:
    17.3" FHD IPS 120Hz WideView (16:9) Matte-Type 94% NTSC Screen (1920x1080)(SKU: 139288)

    http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-017.html?startcustomization=1

    I guess this could be misinformation in which case we should contact them. MSI themselves only list that it has a 5ms response time.
     
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    I had hands-on with the GT73VR with the 120Hz/5ms display, and it was definitely TN. The viewing angles were limited, especially from below. And it definitely wasn't 94 percent NTSC. So maybe Xotic has something new, who knows.

    Charles
     
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    17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (1920x1080) AUO Antiglare Matte Display - 120Hz - 5ms - 94% NTSC Color Gamut

    Description from a store on the MSI GT73VR screen.. As it doesn't say it's IPS I'd go with assuming it's a TN. Nonetheless every reviewing site seems to praise it greatly.
     
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    Personally i am quite sold on the X7 V6. I have watched Xotic Pc's and dave2D's vids on the QHD 120hz model already and so far its quite impressive. My main concern would be thermals as i do live in a pretty tropical country, usually in the high 30's on average with some really bad days having spikes in to the 40 celcius range. But coming from the vids, the X7 seems to handle it pretty well. Mid to high 70s with the stock paste is acceptable to me and i plan to repaste using either GC Extreme or Liquid Ultra if i can find a place that sells it in my country. Also i plan to undervolt the CPU and play at 1080p rather than blast it at 1440p. My other choice would be the P670RS. Slightly thicker and heavier but i has triple fan cooling (haven't seen much difference from the Aorus dual fan cooling in terms of temps yet.) I'm keeping the issues of screen bleeding and eratic fan behavior, that i've been keeping my eye on in the official owners thread, aside first as i plan to base my purchase assuming that both models do not face these issues. Would love to hear your thoughts on this guys!
     
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    X7V6 should have no problems with the thermals whatsoever but if you wanna be sure order a repaste from a reseller :) unfortunately they are not quiet.
     
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    I have hopes that my country's climate wont screw around with the thermals on the V6. I mean, personally i can stand the heat but when it translate's to higher temps both on the chassis and on the components, i dont really feel that comfortable knowing what happens in the long run. I share the same concern with the P670 though. Notebookcheck's review showed it to run pretty hot even in a 24 degree room. Noise also isn't that much of a concern too. My current P150SM with an OC-ed 970M runs kinda loud but it doesn't really bother me. Also, regarding the repaste. The reseller that i plant to purchase it from uses GC Extreme only. Its an excellent paste don't get me wrong but i am leaning more toward's liquid metal pastes as their thermal conductivity is second to none. Just my two cents on the heat issue :)
     
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    Coming full circle just to close the loop on this, I contacted XoticPC sales and they said it should not be listed as IPS and that this was an error that they will send to the proper channels to correct.
     
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    Good deal, often times the pre-release specs us resellers receive to put on our sites differ slightly than what is released and the display technology tends to be a common point of contention. Do our best to catch all the differences but with the amount of models released all at once, some of those just slip by without us being updated that something has changed.
     
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    Do y'all think that the 230w adapter would be enough for the X7 DT if no overclocks were to be applied? Because i'm thinking that if I were able to drop enough for the X7 V6, might as well go the whole hog and push to the DT instead


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    This was a fear I mentioned a while back. Its not enough unless they are using battery boost or have crippled the 1080 vbios. Even with battery boost you will be limited by time so I would like to see some results for sure.
     
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    Read somewhere that the 1080 is a 190W card, but read somewhere else that it was 150W. If it is 150W, it will be barely enough. If it is 190W, no chance without battery boost as @GTVEVO said.

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    What effect does battery boost have in this usage scenario? I thought battery boost was to prolong use of the GPU when away from mains power


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    Right, you're thinking of Nvidia's Battery Boost, which does what you say (allows for longer gaming on battery by limiting FPS).
    What the two previous posters are talking about is using the Battery to 'boost' the power supplied to the hardware. For example, if the system needs 210W, but the power brick is only able to supply 200W then the system will tap the remaining 10W from the battery, allowing for the full 210W and no power throttling (of course until you use the entire battery.... but that would take quite some time and would only happen if there wasn't dips in the power usage that would allow the battery to recharge in the meantime).
     
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    Also, does Aorus have any form of smart charging? I know the Clevos have flexicharge where they only charge the battery once it drops below a certain percentage. Would that kind of software be manufacturer based or a windows feature? Its somewhat important to me as i have very irregular 'leave it on the desk' and 'charge in between classes' kinda schedule


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    About to make the jump on the X7 V6-PC3k4D.. Haven't bought a new laptop in 9 years. Any customization advice in regards to compounds? How's that screen?
     
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    Delete.
     
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