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    AORUS Gaming Notebooks with Pascal, RGB LED keyboards - GTX 1060/1070/1080 13.9"/15.6"/17.3"

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. Arondight

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    As someone who was looking for a laptop a few weeks ago, I saw no reason to go with the X5 V6 with the Clevo P650 on the market. The Clevo has better (or at the very least equal) cooling, equal specs, better battery life (because of the MUX switch), equal build quality or better (no keyboard flex, very sturdy)... and it's even cheaper.
    It doesnt have TB3 though, if that matters to you.
     
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    Except the possibility for a QHD panel. Or was the QHD panel only for X7, I am not sure.. X7 is not out yet though..
     
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    There is a possibility for a QHD display with Clevo (might depend on the reseller I guess)
     
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    Yes QHD is now an option scheduled mid October. Same projected release time as the X7 V6 DT model with QHD.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    That is actually a really interesting alternative, from a quick glance it looks like the main difference is the weaker 6700 instead of 6820, but maybe a 6820 option will show up. Other than that it's 3k vs 4k screen (both have 1080 as an option) and 3 vs 4 drives (one less pci-e slot, but 3 is enough for me as I'd just use 2.5in with a slower ssd instead of 3 pci-e nvme drives).
    Thanks for pointing this one out.
     
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    Any reviews for X7 out yet?


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    There is even the option for a 6820 actually !
    You're welcome :)
     
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    I know people have referred to it as thin, but it doesn't look thin to me from the pictures. I have a P37W presently, for reference. I suspect Clevo is doing the same thing as Alienware with their measurements and only measuring thickness of the bottom part of the unit without including the screen's thickness (i.e. the height measurement is taken while the unit is open rather than closed).
     
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    Just measured mine (P650RP6-G) an it is indeed 25mm when closed just like Clevo says.
     
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    Alienware always measured with the lid closed. I never heard of any company doing this what you describe. Of all my alienware laptops the height was exactly the same as stated on their websites.
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for taking the measurement!

    Again, thanks. I'm happy to be wrong here as I'm considering the new Alienware 17 as my next notebook (I'm waiting on the G-Sync display). On their website, however, they make it seem as though their measurement for the height is just for the bottom half of the unit, not including the display.

    http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-17-laptop

    If you click the "Features" tab and scroll down to the Dimensions and Weights you can see what I'm saying.
     
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    I cant comment on these new laptops. But I know what you mean because the graphic could be interpreted as the base only. But the full thickness of the AW15R2 for example is 3cm something with the lid closed and the new ones are a bit thinner.
     
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    You can't switch graphics at all on any of them, because the i7-6820HK doesn't have any built in GPU.

    Aorus must have decided on using this CPU, because Nvidia's Optimus does not work with G-Sync anyway.

    If a Manufacturer builds a laptop with G-Sync, they can't give it Optimus, so that seems like a sensible choice and you end up with a better CPU.
     
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  14. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The 6820HK does have a built in gpu. But to make gsync and VR work they bypass it.
     
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    And I said you were right :D
     
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    That link only sends me to the 1070 model... where's the tidbit about Oct 15th?

    I've been with Alienware laptops for the last 7 years... I'm a little weary about switching to Aorus, but I gotta say the fact it weighs the same as my 15r2 is quite astonishing. I'd get a 1080 Razer but they're not making one. It'll be a chore selling my Amplifier and 1080 GTX in it, but it's worth being more portable without all those wires.
     
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    The AW 15 is too big for me, but I'm very interested to see what the AW13 is like. If doesn't have big bezels I think I'm in
     
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    Quoted is what I have been communicated directly from Aorus.
     
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    In the US the X7 v6 (1070) was released last week (Beginning of Oct), it was published and I already received notification. I assume there weren't too many on hand as NewEgg sold out very quickly but it looks to be back in stock this morning. The X7 v6 DT (1080) was scheduled for mid October as I stated above, be aware dates change due to part availability.
     
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    Guys, I'm a bit conflicted between the 4k display and the 1440p 120Hz display. I tried 4K gaming on my Alienware 15r2 and for me there's no going back from this... but then again Aorus is really pushing the 120Hz display, but I don't know if it would be worthwhile. I doubt even the 1080 GPU will be able to push 120fps anyway on most games on Ultra... so, thoughts? Which one would you go for?
     
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    I don't think you can go wrong honestly with either, but things to consider is would you rather have higher resolution 3k vs 4k or a faster frame rate with still high res 3k vs 4k (25%), its more of a question of where do you wish to line yourself up. As for me I would rather use the 3k and have higher framerates so in the future I can still play new titles at acceptable FPS levels at the native resolution. So consider what will be best for you and just go for it.
     
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    Thanks for that. I'm going to be in the US in the first week of November (I'm based in Australia) and am hoping to pick up the X7 v6 DT then - fingers crossed for no delays and stock being available!
     
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    I'm just not sure where you going to find a 4K version. I've been hunting it for a while to test the panel to see if it's worth it for my type of job and I have to yet find one.
     
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    I am new to this site but not laptops, my first purchase was 3 years ago, and it was a Gigabyte P25W CF3. I purchased via Xotic PC. 770m GPU and I can't even remember the CPU. Anyways, since then I've taken on an interest in following the news, blogs & sites regarding everything gaming laptop. I really enjoyed the P25W, it's still working great today. That said it's time for me to purchase a laptop for work/personnel. My office machine is broken. I have been waiting for this machine (AORUS X7 DT V6). I just purchased it tonight on Xotic's site. I am aware of the downsides, but as I remember it the same things were being said about the P25W before i purchased that. I hope I don't regret this, but we will see. Fingers crossed. I'll report back when possible.

    Thanks
     
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    Guys, is it confirmed that this otherwise perfect X7 DT v6 won't have Thunderbolt 3.0???? That's strange given the fact I'm shelling out over $3000 for it. I basically need TB3 --not for an extermal GPU, but for the extra USB ports you can connect to it.
     
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    I hope not this thing should come with all the best specs available via the price we're paying for it. If it doesn't it may be my last gigabyte/AORUS purchase.
     
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    Unless you have a very very specific scenario for this, you should be fine. You have 3 USB 3.0 ports, plus a USB 3.1 (type C) which has the main differentator from TB3 of having 1/4 the bandwidth (10Gbps vs 40Gbps). Either way you'd need a split/hub to connect to the type C connector, so unless you have enough external devices to exceed the 10Gbps bandwidth (I can only think of high-end/prosumer storage since you said it's not a gpu amp), it should be of no difference to you.

    With all that, I still wish it had TB3, so I might try and hold out till dec/jan refresh with Kaby Lake; hopefully (doubtful) they'll also get rid of those unsightly plugs from the old ports that have been removed (rubber/plastic stoppers in 2K+ laptop is a tad absurd).
     
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    Looks like there is a unboxing/first impressions that someone posted of the x5 v6 on youtube (and says they'll post more):

    The good news is that the keyboard flex looks to not be an issue.

    Also, there's a review in chinese here (google translate does a decent enough job):
    http://www.dgtle.com/thread-396684-1-1.html
     
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    This is a recent review of the previous generation x7, starting at 4:45 he starts talking about the temperatures.



    It's amazing that he still recommends this model (wants one) even with the severest heat issues causing performance to be limited - no boost or turbo clock in CPU or GPU - it's not gonna take advantage of the CPU or GPU full performance.

    It will be interesting to see how the new X7 v6 with 6820HK / 1080 fairs in performance tests and if it has similar thermals.
     
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    Extended Look at the Aorus X5 V6 (in 4k!) - 59:55
     
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    Another good review (google translate is your friend, unless you speak chinese):
    https://m.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=238&t=4950362

    This one includes a look under the heatpipes for those planning on re-pasting. Another interesting thing that came out from the review is that I had thought that the two side-by-side m.2 slots were the two pci-e gen 3 x 4, and the one of to the side next to the wifi card was the gen 3 x 2, but apparently that's not the case (so, if you're doing raid, it's the top slot and the slot of to the side; bottom slot must then be the gen 3 x 2). Also, the reviewer's nvme ssd's controller would thermal throttle until he connected (using pads) the controller to the case to help it dissipate the heat using the case. I wonder if that will be necessary with the Samsung 960s, or if they run cooler than the Toshiba xg3 used in the review.
     
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    Show me a reseller with 1440p 120hz as an option in the 650/670 series. Every reseller I;ve talked to on the phone has said they won't put a nicer screen in the 650, only in the 750/775. That is a half inch thicker and way worse build quality imo. I've seen pictures of the Clevos being torn down and they look like there is flex in every single piece.
     
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    For folks who've had these before, I am considering an Alienware 17, but now I see these things being way thinner I'm intrigued. These appear to be in stock and shipping, while the Alienwares are short stocked or something.

    Aorus vs Alienware, thoughts?
     
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    First off, sorry for the length of my following ramble.

    I've not owned an Aorus or an Alienware (well actually I've owned an M11X and M14X but that's irrelevant). I've been following Aorus closely, especially the v6 iteration, but also Alienwares Pascal iteration, and Clevo (for their thin and light category P650). So all my opinions are just based on what I've read and saw relating to these new models.

    From what I gather, the new Alienware should be a serious contender. It's thin enough not to seem bulky but not too thin to sacrifice much in the way of cooling, and they seem to be very proud of their cooling solution. They also have a reinforced "TactX" keyboard so theoretically it should be one of the best laptop keyboards around. Not really a fan of their side 'tron' lighting but it looks kind of cool I suppose.

    I haven't seen any info about their GTX 1080 variant yet but the same goes for Aorus. Word on the....internet, suggests we should see these around November?

    For me, Aorus's previous generation laptops have mostly always (oxymoron ayone?) seemed to fall short of what I can see as a decent designed system for longevity. CPU/GPU too hot, too much keyboard flex (they are my main concerns), other things like loudness, backlight bleed, screen flex are other smaller issues in my opinion that could easily be addressed.

    The style and form factor of Aorus have me hooked though and from vids and reveiws that have started trickling out of the X5 have me pretty satisfied with the keyboard and cooling. I should imagine the X7 with a 1070 should have no issues especially considering the new intake ports on top, how it will handle a 1080 is yet to be seen.

    Build quality of both laptops should be similar, Aorus I think has slightly more advanced storage options, same CPU and GPU, so both should perform nearly identically. Alienware internal components and chassis temps should be somewhat better, and fans should be quieter. However Aorus looks better and much thinner.

    Currently I'm pretty set on buying the X5 V6 when the 1080p 120hz screen is out. For me, a 17" is too big as I carry my laptop (Clevo P150EM) around in my bag nearly every day. Even with a big ass bag, a 17 just wouldn't fit with all my other stuff. I ride a motorbike a lot so everything in one bag would be great. The depth of the Alienware laptops seem to be about 3cm deeper than the competition for any size so this fact pretty much rules them out for me as they wont really fit. Plus the wide flat areas of nothingness on either side of the keyboard on the Alienware 15 looks unappealing. No dedicated macro buttons and no numpad.

    To keep temps of the X5 down and increase longevity would be to undervolt the cpu and apply liquid metal thermal compound (Grizzly Conductonaut) to cpu and gpu.

    To me, Alienware and Aorus seem to be the top contenders when wanting a slim, powerful, and somewhat understated gaming laptop. Either should be great purchases, but it seems like the Aorus would need more basic maintenance to keep performance up i.e. clearing dust from fan/rad, repaste job.
     
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    I've got an XPS 13 and use the power companion a lot. I like how Alienware seems to be the only company who tried to put most of there ports on the back. Aorus has them everywhere. Im mostly impatient so I'm liking aorus because I can get a 1440 120hz monitor right now...no one else offers that, except the fat clevos. I wish they would sell the 120hz monitors on the thin clevos...but the resellers are in it for the money, and won't let you heavily customize the thinnest model. Pretty irritating
     
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    Yep, we do not even know yet for ex. if the 670 series can get the 120 Hz, QHD/WQHD screens. It was a pretty bad decision on Clevo's side to leave the "considerably light & 3K/4K panel support" niche to Aorus or Alienware.
     
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    The problem is we do know they can get them... They offer 4k in the 650/670, why wouldn't they offer 3k.

    I was told on the phone by one of the more popular resellers here that it is only because it is a nicer panel. If you want the nicer panel you have to buy the nicer chassis. Except for me, the 775dm3 is a fat turd of a chassis, and no videos or reviews I've seen have changed my mind. The best video of the thing is by a guy who later returns it for built issues.
     
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    Beauty is in the inside, not the outside. :)
     
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    Where have you seen that they offer 4K option for 670? Can you give a link?
     
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    I would say it could have something to do with the short supply and then very short if offered with every model so they are trying to control the chaos.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    -Pretty sure the Alienware has 2x M.2 ports, 1 2.5" bay, and 1 Mini PCIe

    -Somewhat better temps is an understatement. 1st user is reporting +200 MHz overclock and firestrike score of 18392 with temps only reaching 72 C on GPU with no repaste... lots overclocking headroom.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15420046

    -6 Dedicated macro buttons, they had plenty of room for num-pad though if they did not put those macros... bad move to put macro keys instead of numpad :(

    With portability as a big concern though, I would still say you should go with the Aorus. The AW is 2" deeper and almost 2 LB heavier
     
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    Aorus X7 V6 (GTX 1070) Review - The Best Thin 17" Gaming Laptop?!
     
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