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    Dell Inspiron 7559

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Xathos, Oct 3, 2015.

  1. borgf15

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    Are you implying you have said root certificate on your laptop and thus need to clean install windows?
     
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    I don't know if i should buy this. In belgium we can only order i7, and i want the FHD version. It costs 999 euros, and even without thunderbolt (which is a shame) and ddr4 support it is by far the cheapest option with this cpu/gpu. The thing that makes me doubt is the screen. I have read the full thread and i still can't figure out if there is only one screen type or iare there more. I know most of you have the not very good BOE 200 nits screen, but are there different (better) FHD-screens (some people mention LG screen?). If there's a better screen (more nits, higher gamut), then i would certainly go for it.
     
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    But what's putting you off the UHD screen??

    As far as I can tell there is only one FHD screen (BOE) and people don't seem to like it very much. It is probably possible to buy an LG FHD screen separately, and change the screen if you really want to (this was suggested earlier in the thread). I agree that for 999E I would expect a better quality screen and more features but I cant find a good alternative either

    FYI the UHD screen is made by LG, but people don't seem to rate that either (RGBw, and seems to have a yellow tinge).
     
  4. rg0019

    rg0019 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just received this laptop yesterday from Amazon. So far, I'm pretty pleased with the laptop. I have updated all drivers through Dell. I need to find the trackpad driver that was on this post earlier and install. The trackpad seems pretty decent at this point. As for the keyboard, I'm typing on this laptop now. i have no issues with the keyboard. Its getting good battery life. I have installed Steam on this laptop and played a little bit of Fallout 4 last night.. It does a pretty decent job, I cant complain.

    I was pretty concerned with the screen as everyone else. I just downloaded HWiNFO64 and took a look at the monitor data. Here is what it says:

    General information
    Monitor Name: LG Philips [Unknown Model: LGD04B9]
    Monitor Name (Manuf): 156WF6 [DELL P/N: KFKV0]
    Serial Number: Unknown
    Date Of Manufacture: Week: 0, Year: 2015
    Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\LGD04B9


    Can someone decipher this information? Just doing some quick research, it looks like this panel is going in the alienware laptops and those guys dont seem too happy. Just in my one day using the laptop, the panel does seem a little dark. I have messed with the graphics and it it at an acceptable level right now. I plan to keep the laptop. I'll add more memory. I already added another SSD drive. The only other thing I may change is the panel. There are a couple of panels suggested earlier in the thread,so I may try to switch it out. How hard is it to switch out panels?
     
  5. Nick3333

    Nick3333 Newbie

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    I don't really see the advantage of an UHD screen. That's 150 euro extra, combined with an ssd, and possibly 8gb makes it just as expensive as as the acer vng 592G with a good FHD screen, ddr4, thunderbolt,... Same goes for replacing the screen. It's really difficult to decide. I don't need the best screen in the world, but the values seem really low
     
  6. Tensai47

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    Is this 4k res?
     
  7. rg0019

    rg0019 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Last edited: Nov 24, 2015
  8. Nick3333

    Nick3333 Newbie

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    If this would be the FHD panel, it would be great. Clarity is much higher, so i presume color reproduction would also be a lot better
     
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    VN7-592G is the same price as this dell in the UK. Are you sure it's a better laptop?
     
  10. Xathos

    Xathos Notebook Enthusiast

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  11. Nick3333

    Nick3333 Newbie

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    Yes, in certain areas: connectivity, ssd, thunderbolt, screen, chassis. Battery life is less ofcourse. The configuration with same cpu/gpu of acer is a lot more expensive in belgium
     
  12. Quadzilla

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    You got a great stock panel with yours is what that info reveals.

    Its about 30% brighter and just better all around then what everyone else got.

    Dell has been doing this for years and it is called the Dell panel lottery.

    This is why some of the people who got it from Amazon were like wow bright crisp screen and others not so much lol.

    But people who think OK Dell changed its tune and is using better screens will be in for a rude awakening if they do not receive the same screen.

    So do not order thinking you will be getting what this person here got cause its 50\50 chance that will happen.

    Thankfully it takes 4 minutes to swap out the screen if you are dissatisfied with the stock panel.
     
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  13. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    I don't think that's the same one in the Alienware laptops. There's a guy on laptopjunky who contacted Dell support to exchange his laptop's screen, and your panel is what he received. According to Dell, it's the 300 nits, 72% NTSC panel. Check my review thread in this forum for the links.

    You're lucky, because that's a decent panel. The new Alienware laptops are getting a 220 nits panel.
     
  14. LeapingGnome

    LeapingGnome Notebook Guru

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    Is there already a good guide posted for this, or recommended replacement? For example the best available 1920x1080 screen.
     
  15. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    There is not a guide but its a matter of unclipping the bezel and removing 4 screws to drop out the screen.

    To remove the bezel you just take your finger under the edge of the inside bezel where the screen is and pull slowly till they start unclipping then once you get an opening on the bezel you can take credit card and slide it around from the outside to undo the rest of the clips.

    There are many youtube videos showing the process and they are identical in every regard.
     
  16. rg0019

    rg0019 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thats great news Quadzilla and Razay. I guess I got lucky with this laptop panel. After sitting here messing with the color setting, it looks pretty decent now. I'm sitting in my living room with just a lamp on and I have only have it at 50 percent brightness. Of course, this isn't with professorial calibration just me eye balling it.

    If there is more information needed on the laptop, I'm willing to help. If someone can tell me where to find a build date I can look it up. I do know it was shipped from the Amazon facility located in Hebron, Kentucky.
     
  17. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Even if there were lot numbers to maybe identify which batch yours came from there would be no way to get that from Amazon since you cant hand pick it yourself like in a store and you cannot ask them to give you a specific one either.

    So unfortunately it's all just luck. Even ordering from Dell it is luck and no way to ask them either.

    A replacement screen could be wonderful or exactly what you had originally.

    Apple does this stuff as well as do many other companies since they don't want to rely on one manufacture if they don't have to.

    Sadly they should all be equally spec and they are not.
     
  18. MrDesjardins

    MrDesjardins Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, it's 15inches so 4k is way too many pixel to be usable for the laptop itself. Probably more useful when you hook a second monitor which is bigger (like 28inches). Nevertheless, if you have good eyes, at 150% you can have a great amount of viewport of what you are doing. For me, developing, browsing, watching video, editing picture are perfect. I haven't notice any performance problem. The brightness is okay. I guess it could be better but it's good. I have to crank it to max when it's sunny in the room, otherwise, I keep it around 40% or 50%. I do not know yet what is doing it, but I notice the screen brightness to be automatically adjusted depending if I am watching something very bright or dark. I think it's something related to power management, but I haven't found it yet. This was concerning me first because some dark picture looked darker than normally.
     
  19. imglidinhere

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    I am stunned at the price-performance ratio of this machine here... I'm wondering exactly what's the catch, because I am tempted by the fruit of another right now and, after my horrid experiences with Alienware, I am crazy interested in this new machine. The i5 quad model can be had on newegg for $700 flat right now!

    @___@
     
  20. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Only catch i can think of quite frankly is maybe the screen and not everyone will even mind its not the best. Plus you might get lucky and get an LG screen.

    For the price its untouchable in pretty much ever regard.
     
  21. a15g

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    The MSI PE60 and Acer V15 Nitro are both $799 ($774 after $25 visa checkout code) over at the egg for black friday sale. Same 6700HQ/960M but with better screens.

    PE60

    - 97% sRGB Screen
    - 4 Speakers and a Sub
    - 6700HQ vs 6300HQ (unless you bought the configuration with a 6700HQ on the dell)
    - Better Keyboard
    - Killer Networking
    - More professional/low key design (personal opinion)
    - Easier maintenance/repasting, fan cleaning.

    - A little thicker, but the dell isn't by any means slim to begin with. If I still owned the dell and still had a chance to return, I would in a heartbeat.
     
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  22. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I wouldnt touch the MSI with a ten foot pole and thats with all my personal experience regardless of specs.

    Cannot comment on the V15 Acer though. I know the Acer requires a complete teardown to get to anything. Not sure the Acer can handle 2 drives or not

    I know if battery life is important to you at all dont bother with either of those .

    The Dell for me has been amazing battery wise which those you will be luckly to hit 3-4 hours.

    Lastly if you have an issue you can add at home warranty from Dell and have them at your home t he next day or you can mail out your machine to Acer or MSI and maybe have it back in a month or so and hopefully fixed the issue you actually sent it in for.

    I have had plenty of experience with all those issues as well.
     
  23. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    You can simply ask Dell to send a replacement screen, or exchange your laptop til you get the good panel.

    It is indeed unconscionable that they sell the same laptop for the same price, but one has a much superior display.
     
  24. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    That exchanging becomes so time consuming and exhaustive your honestly better off spending $70 to just buying the screen you want and get it over with.

    All that time on t he phone asking for exchanges and returns and shipping back and forth just is not worth $70 because it might take 4 exchanges to get what you want.
     
  25. MarkyM

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    According the HWiNFO64 I have the dreaded "BOE" screen Model BOE062F and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. It clearly blows away the crappy, glossy TN screen on my old Dell Studio laptop this replaced. I really like the matte finish.

    The color looked a bit yellowish out of the box but it calibrated well with my X-Rite i1Display meter using the i1Profiler software. It has plenty of brightness for me (although I have not tried to use it in bright sunlight yet) and good viewing angles.

    I did try using it for photo editing with Lightroom 6 and post-calibration, my photos look fine on it to me so far with natural looking saturation. Someone that needs high-percentage accuracy of the Adobe RGB color gamut or better might be disappointed, but it is good enough to my eye for "normal" SRGB use.
     
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    Hello guys. I was having a look at other computer with same characteristics, as we have more options with probably a more decent screens, and saw this asus;

    http://shop.asus.com/store/asusau/en_AU/pd/ThemeID.34023100/productID.327991800

    I'm going to refer to the graphic card; here in asus says the following:
    The nVidia GTX 960M Graphics card has 2GB of dedicated RAM

    But in the Dell we are talking about, specifies; NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M with 4 GB GDDR5

    And going to the NVIDIA page, says;
    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-960/specifications
    Standard Memory Config 2GB

    So, does it mean that DELL asked nvidia for an specific model of the 960 with 4gb dedicated ram? Or is it an error?

    It is strange because ALL laptops I've seen with this card, wear the 2gb version, so it's a bit strange.

    Thank you guys

    If it's all correct and only the DELL has the 4gb dedicated ram; does it make a huge difference when playing videogames, 2gb vs 4gb? I assume the graphic card uses this ram to proccess its data; Does it use the normal RAM when it runs out of space on the dedicated? This is a rookie question but can't find answer
     
  27. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    This has been answered several times. In fact, I even touched upon it in my review:

    Make no mistake, this is a bad panel (factually speaking). 45% NTSC, 53% AdobeRGB, 70% sRGB, 200 nits. It is dull and has piss-poor colour coverage. Its matte coating is also bad and grainy by 2015 standards. Subjectively though, it might indeed be better than a lousy, cheap TN panel.

    Imagine you've been eating the moldy, rotten bread offered by another company, then Dell comes along and hands you a piece of bread that is "only" stale. Probably seems delicious.

    Here's an analogy to better understand the fuss:

    Pretend that Dell, instead of explicitly listing the GTX 960M, simply says "comes with a dedicated GPU". You receive your machine and realize it has the 920M, one of the weakest cards on the market. I open mine and find out I received the GTX 970M, the second most powerful mobile GPU at this time (we both ordered the same laptop model and paid the same price). Or, what if Dell simply lists "comes with a 512GB storage drive". You receive the laptop with a 5400rpm HDD (the slowest storage drive available), and I get a SanDisk Extreme Pro 2.5" SSD, one of the best and fastest SSDs (in 2.5" SATAIII format) currently available. How would you feel?

    Because that's "what the fuss is all about": Dell using a replacement screen for some of the laptops that is significantly better than the other option, and you have no idea which you're getting.

    TL;DR
    Most of the laptops are shipping with the BOE, which is the worst 15.6" FHD matte IPS-type panel I've seen, while others are getting the LG, which is one of the best 15.6" FHD matte IPS panels out there.
     
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  28. aquantum

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    New Lenovo Y700 IPS screen is 52% AdobeRGB, 69% sRGB

    If you want better screen better to buy ASUS GL552VW.

    2 Ramzay: Did you get Inspiron 7559 from Costco?
     
  29. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    I ordered it, yes. Mostly just to see which screen it comes with. If you get the LG panel, this laptop is really good value for the money.
     
  30. aquantum

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    What happened with your 7559? Did you return it to Dell?
     
  31. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Yes, several weeks ago.

    In addition, that panel isn't actually a matte display panel. It is a glossy panel, and they've applied a matte film on top. Look up some YouTube reviews, you'll see the guys removing the matte film. They all seem to say the film is pretty bad and really dulls the screen, while the default glossy panel isn't too bad.
     
  32. Talon

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    I bought mine from Frys at 799$ for non SSD version hoping to see the LG screen and then upgrade to the SSD myself.

    I ordered the $759 SSD version from Amazon and it's being delivered today. I'm hoping for the LG screen. Regardless I'll keep it because I don't mind the BOE but the LG would be nice. I mostly ordered for the SSD and cheaper price. The 5400rpm hybrid drive is atrocious and holds the laptop back.

    I'll be returning this one to Frys later this weekend.
     
  33. New World Order

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    Just put in the request to return mine too. Quite gutted, not sure if I should try my luck with another one, or keep on eye on the outlet for something else.
     
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    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    You can always contact Dell support and request a screen replacement, that's how one guy got his BOE exchanged for the LG.
     
  36. aquantum

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    Do the send new laptop with LG screen or replace a BOE screen in old laptop?
     
  37. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    They'll usually send a replacement screen, though there's no guarantee that will be the LG. It's just one way of getting it.
     
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    What is this supposed to do? I run it and it seems to do nothing. In my device manager everything is still 'generic touchpad' and 'generic mouse' and when I go into the mouse/touchpad properties I have no Elan tab. All I want to do is figure out how to enable gestures to go backwards and forwards in browsers and I've been trying different things for an hour and nothing makes a difference. Pretty frustrating.
     
  39. Quadzilla

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    Windows 10 should have the driver for you already? Its not even available from Dell so it comes from Microsoft.
     
  40. LeapingGnome

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    Yes but those drivers don't offer the ability to use swipes to go back and forward in browsers. Do you know how to enable this on Windows 10?
     
  41. palackan

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    somehow windows 10 doesn't allow mouse installation like that .. so follow instructions in

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-inspiron-7559.782286/page-13#post-10115424


    this driver is very stable
     
  43. palackan

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    that windows driver is very old and bad
     
  44. Talon

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    No go on the LG screen unfortunately. Just got home and am updating and installing my software. First thing I checked was the screen. Oddly enough this one actually seems brighter and less yellow-ish. Looks good too me. Still sort of disappointed but loving the speed the SSD gave this laptop.

    Edit: Screen on this laptop is definitely better. Its still the exact same model but of much higher quality. No yellow tinting, whites look white. I will post a couple screenshots of the laptop screens side by side, both at maximum brightness. Its very easy to see the yellow tinting on the older laptop.
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    I'm considering buying a new display for my 7559. Just found out tonight that Dell is pulling this crap, giving some buyers the LG display and others the crappy BOE one. I have a couple of questions, though.

    Are the two you linked the best I can get for a decent price? Which do you prefer, the AUO or the LG?
    How are you liking that display on your Dell? Would I be better off ordering the one you got or the ones Ramzay linked to?
     
  47. Shaddolf

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    I think I found the answer to my own question here:



    Shows the 1tb SSHD model and he points out the M2 slot when he pulls off the bottom cover
     
  48. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Or you could've checked out my review where there's a nice photo :)
     
  49. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Well, you can get in touch with Dell and have them replace the display under warranty, and ask specifically for the LG panel.

    Otherwise, I have a slight preference for the AUO. Not quite as bright, but a bit more colour-accurate.
     
  50. nandodean

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    Can someone give a clue about this? GTX 960 issue
     
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