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Hi. My first post here.
I have a following card (it's from an ASUS notebook - don't know the name unfortunately), it's Ati 4650 model N81 M96-M



The problem is - the GPU is on the flip side of the card and I have no idea how to fit a cooler on that one. Any help would be appreciated, even just a simple - can't be done

 

Hey Guys,

I hope there are C90S users out there still and I have been redirected over to this forum in hopes for some decent information about GPU replacements after my 2nd GPU, an ATI, has died.

So, I am not convinced in getting an 8600M ddr2/ddr3 nor going with ATI again. I'm would like to try the 240m but I have serious reservations about compatibility as the 250M won't work according to KOI previous post.

Alternatively, I am interested in the 9600m ddr3, but noticing that there is also a 9700m ddr3 for the newer ASUS G50 series. They're all MXM-II, so I know that's not a problem. Or what about the 8800M series??

Could anyone give me some insight into all of these cards?

 

Does anyone know where i can find the pdfs and/or unblurred video of C90s Unleashed? Sineva.net is down and noone is seeding the torrent. i'd love to try the heatsink mod out for myself. Any input would be appreciated.

 

Angel Marinov deleted most* all of his content from this forum in a tragic fit of rage after a misunderstanding with the mod team, over a trifling issue.

Here is a link to an archive.org crawl of the page: http://web.archive.org/web/20100924...nges/472325-c90s-unleashed-angel-marinov.html

*I caught him deleting his posts and was the one that had to ban him to save what content was left. This was a sad day because he had some great contributions here...

 

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know where I could find bios 0803 for the Asus C90P? I bought this notebook a while back and had the motherboard replaced by Asus and they updated it to 0704. If not, can someone please post it? I just can't find version 0803 anywhere. My E8500 CPU is still not supported :c. Also after changing the card to a 4670 MXM-2, the fans won't stop running at full speed and sounds like a lawnmower lol. Thanks.

 

Hi guys

I also would like to try Angel Marinov’s heatsink. I saw that the last version is ASME 4.0. Did someone know where to find it and what is the difference between 1.0 and 4.0?

@ -=cArLiCuS-MaXiMuS=-
I can’t remember where I read but here was a link to 803 or 901 or 902 C90P bios on Angel’s site. Also you can check China sites or ask Asus.

Yes!

I have found the ASME 4.0 on Sineva.net thanks to the thread “BIOS mod for ASUS C90S for 1066Mhz Wolfdale!” and 9800xpv who provide the link to Angel’s data. There are no C90P BIOS versions.

The link: http://www.sineva.net/downloads

ps: How to make a clickable link?

 

Thanks for the reply.

Believe me I tried, I looked at the Chinese sites. no link. I asked Asus, no one even obthered to reply. 0704 onwards are the "unofficial" BIOSes and they're all hush hush about it. Even the link from gentech pc for King is now dead.

I haven't been following this thread in the longest time, however, I never had to modify my heatsink ever. I could be wrong, but the C90s peeps needed to, while the C90Ps heatsink had the right holes in all the right places . I'd keep it simple and just get a C90p heatsink.

 

… but you didn’t asked Angel Marinov. Right?

… and your 4670 MXM-2 too.

Yesterday I sent my questions to Angel and now I have got the prompt answers. He is an amazing guy and seems to know everything! Thanks to him I ordered a brand new 4650 DDR3 1GB and accepted his kind offer of ASME 4 with all needed bits for free. I can’t believe it yet! He makes me happy!

Thank you 9800xpv!

 

My 3rd NVidia 8600 passed away, RIP . I’ve spent $380 for 2 new video cards over the time and my laptop is paperweight again . The new ATI cost me $160 and will be the last attempt to keep running my beloved C90S.

The choice of the next laptop is Clevo 9130/9150. I still have my doubts and unanswered questions.

Edit 1: BTW am I the last one with Asus C90S?

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Edit 2: (Oct-24-12) Good news: The ASME 4 is here.

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Edit 3: (Oct-26-12) ASME 4.0 Picture. Sorry for the quality - phone camera, shaking hand:

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Edit 4: I’ve received 3650 instead of 4650 . Exchange follows.

Here are the stress test results (IntelBurnTest & ATITool)


The HWiNFO32 (ver. 4.06 Build 1760) temperature readings are not accurate in some reason.

No sings from a throttle effect.
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You are not alone, I still have mine, mint condition, protective stickers still on screen front and back..
E6600 + original 8600GT.
E7500 + 9600GT at hand awaiting upgrade. Of course with the updated Wolfdale-compatible BIOS that I created.

 

Guys, as many of you, I still have my C90S in mint condition but just 2 days ago the video card 8600m GT 512 DDR2 is dead gone. After looking in the web, I really don't mind having a lower end card as I don't play anymore. However, it has been impossible to find a cheap alternative (Less than 50 bucks), I have found an HD 2600 from a working HP Laptop, or an X1600 from a TPM 3200 Laptop but will it work?

Anybody has any experience with replacing the Video Card apart from the professional mods (I just want a plug & Play cheap or the same level card), thanks for the help.

 

Never tried any of those sorry... I would guess almost all of them would require some tweaking (copper heat spreader?) as the 8600 I had is not quite like the other MXM cards I've seen...

I have another question if anyone who knows about such things is still around though.
My 9600m GT is not detected by either Nvidia or laptopvideo2go driver installers. Never has been since I switched from the dead 8600. I can manually install the drivers, but I would simply like to figure out how to make my gpu accept Nvidias driver installers again so that I can reactivate Nview.

 

Thanks, I decided to try an Ati 2600 and when it arrives, I will post the results to see if it works.

 

Hi guys, I still could not find the latest bios for the C90P. I did buy a GT240M MXM-2 from ebay instead... The seller claimed it would work with the C90P and C90S. Its Asus branded. If I had to guess it was from an Asus M60J and people were talking about it a while back. It seemed to stop the Hover Craft fans from blowing at full swing when the HD 4670 was on my laptop (no fan control).

It does NOT seem to work though. BIOS menu loads up etc, but when Windows starts to load, it hangs at the first second of loading. I tried Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows Server 2008 R2 boot dvds; it reads etc but when the OS starts to load it hangs as well. Next I tried Ubuntu Linux, same deal, OS loads it hangs. Does anyone have any suggestions, or this is just a non-worker?

Thanks.

 

Actually, how do you get in contact with him, isn't he banned?

 

@-=cArLiCuS-MaXiMuS=-

Your BIOS is here and I can see it :
The link: http://www.sineva.net/downloads

To use GT240M in C90* you'll need a modded VBIOS .
Also I know that 4670 is working without any problem on C90P including the fan control.

BTW why you are using this 'crap' GT240M ? Don’t you know that the best NVidia for C90* is 9600M / DDR3? Don’t you know that the best video card for C90* is the 4670 ? It is not enough just to put the card into the slot. You should know how to drive properly this beast . Here at the forum there is plenty of information, just make your research .

I’ve reached Angel at its second e-mail. Check the text section under the video:
"Samsung 470 (64G) SSD Write Performance Test on SinevaNet" by Angel Marinov (October 21, 2011)

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:thumbsup: *** triturbo & its 4670 *** A remarkable and well balanced result: Picture 1 (8000) / Picture 2 (8141). With C90P you can achieve more!

 

Thanks duhai, that was a super helpful post!

I'm thinking of returning that annoying gt240m, the seller claimed to have tested it, which he did not, they just kept linking me back to the Asus website to download the latest bios. I kept asking them how they got it to work. I don't know how to modify the vbios, nor do I have the correct tables for it.

The 4670 I have came from MXM upgrade, and well there really is not fan control on it. The laptop just puts the fan into full swing as a precaution, which is fine but after a while anyone who hears those fans run will get migraines due to the noise those four fans make.

I will, thanks again. I originally wanted the 4670 GDDR3 from MSI, but lol, those things are super hard to get, and from what I've been reading, they do have overheating issues.

 

duhai, do you know the password for that bios link you posted? The bios .rar is password encrypted. Thanks.

 

Try to download it again! There are 3 archives and they are fine :thumbsup:.

With Angel’s C90P BIOS 803 you can run CPUs as Q9650 / Q9550 . Be careful and use ISO version as he recommends.

Your C90P is the best C90* laptop :thumbsup:. With a 9600M GT/DDR3 you can achieve about 7000 ~ 7200 score in 3Dmark06. The current price of an upgrade with 9600M & Q9550 is about $250 and it’s impressive. You will need an 180W PSU or better 240W PSU. Using 8G RAM is very good thing .

With 4670/DDR3 you can score ~ 9000 in 3Dmark06 on C90P. Unfortunately your 4670 is a crap too because it’s DDR2 with a modded VBIOS which one turns down the performance intentionally plus an “improved brainless custom design” and all of this at killer price . It’s possible to undo the damages if you have the required skills and time.

For the GPU you will need to customize the current heatsink or make a new one. All this I learned from Angel. Also he gave me special BIOS for C90S which one supports Q9550S .

I’ve tried GT240M 2 or 3 years ago. The card is good for those Asus laptops where it works. Unfortunately that wasn’t the case with C90S . I needed modded VBIOS with properly adjusted p-states and NiBiTor. Actually it was an easy task but if you messed up something then a bricked card is available mou-ha-ha-ha, and it’s all yours . Finally I’ve succeed but the scores were close to those of 9600M (overclocked) .

The same here ! As to the temperatures I saw 82* C on the stress test with 3Dmark06 and 4670/DDR3 equipped with ASME heatsink .

 

I'm happy to see you're a fellow fan of the C90 series as well! Yeah I read about the 180W power supplies in this forum a while back (been a lurker here), and I only do have a 150W power supply. I originally didn't want a quad core in my laptop because I was using it for university and it would be useless for my purposes if the laptop battery couldn't run for two hours straight, so I got the fastest dual core wolfdale processors back then.

The MSI card, yeah I even considered buying a GX625 and then swapping out the video card with the mxm upgrade one and then selling it again, but yeah, the ones on ebay seem to have them swapped out already lol. 82 degrees is INSANE considering the C90 series is pretty darned good at keeping the temps down

As for fan control, that is probably why King back then installed a hardware(voltage) fan controller for his C90. The 4670 will make the laptop run at full swing. and he controlled the fans externally. Actually, I might have another solution to that as well; I bought some silent 40mm fans of the same size. If i attach them to an external molex adapter they can run fully and silently without having to deal with soldering or ruining the laptop wiring and motherboard. Last time I checked asus parts, they want 80$ for that fan module, which is a royal ripoff. That wouldn't cost 10$ to make and ship

 

Well do you have instructions on how to do it for the C90? Lol Because the seller promised me a full refund, he thinks the gt240m card is broken (which it clearly isn't, just incompatible), so what do I really have to lose? The thing is I can't even run Nibitor because the thing can't even boot to windows.

Also, for FYI for peeps out there, as duhai has 8gb the C90, my C90p could only run 4gb, I've tried 8gb back then did not work. I suspect the 0704 bios does not allow it, I'll see if indeed the 0803 bios will do the trick once i get that up and running, I'll see if that's the case and report back

 

By the way, if you get a modded vbios for the 240M, you could maybe send it to a bios recovery shop and get them to flash the Eprom directly and send it back, shipping should be low for just the card.

 

@-=cArLiCuS-MaXiMuS=-

I can’t recall all steps and the order, sorry for that. I tell you what I remember. I’ve used a blind VBIOS update from DOS with nvFlash and USB floppy drive Teac. After that I was able to adjust p-states with the NiBiTor in windows. I’ve received the VBIOS from a guy with the same card (Manufacturer, MXM II interface, DDR3, Memory size, Memory Chips Brand) and that was the biggest risk for me. Long time Asus mother was in my mind .

If you decide to take that road, first update the C90P BIOS. Then check again the GT240M behavior. You are in better position than me because you can see the POST screen with your card.

Read carefully!
Guide how to perform the VBIOS upgrade from DOS with nvFlash.

VBIOSes: #1 / #2

Check Mavke's thread too (NiBiTor’s author).​

Good Luck!

The 4670 temperature 82*C in 3Dmark06 is impressive especially when you learn about the environmental one. I am with the ASME 4.0 and 3650/DDR2. The temps are really impressive too, 25*C less than 8600M and my C90S never had been before so quiet . I have to do more mods that will improve my tender beast and its battery life.

You are right – 8 GB RAM only with 803 ! Can you imagine what will happen with BIOS 1603 ?

BTW your idea about the fans is almost the same as mine. Actually my idea was a part from Angel’s one . I can’t remember when I saw on his thread a post about the fans. He posted a picture of the 24v Papst fan 40x40x10. At first I thought that there was some mistake but later I’ve realized the goal . Now I have 4 fans from the same type connected directly to the PSU at 19v instead of the original Deltas. The beast is so so so quiet right now that I can hear when the mosquito is farting . I need help how to attach the fan array to internal power source. I asked Angel and he said that such a mod is already done by him and he will publish all details. I’ve bought also 4 additional fans at 12v for the next mod. I can’t wait!

Regarding your CPU choice – welcome to Brotherhood of the Wolf :yes:!

Mu-ha-ha my memory is running at 533 MHz, follows 667 MHz !

 

Thanks for the help, duhai. I'll try that tomorrow! It's good I have an old version of nvflash lying around, I used it to flash a pc 7800gt into a mac video card for my old Apple Powermac G4.

You were right as well on the 0803 front allowing 8gb, I flashed it and it works! Hahahahaha on Bios 1603! I had a good laugh. If that WERE the case then I expect 0704 to have given me 7gb.

As for the our ideas, well I tried something else before that. If you looked at the fan module, it uses tiny little connectors. I found those connectors a while back, I can't remember where I got it, but even the seller doesn't know what you call those connectors (I'm still curious to know). Anyway I tried connecting that and wiring it to a typical molex from an off the shelf 40mm fan, it didn't work - however, I'm an amateur when it comes to soldering, so who knows what's up with that. I think I'll give that 240m a shot and then worry about the fan module.

As for the Wolfdale, I'd howl like a wolf to that brotha! It's been a good fast reliable CPU, no complaints there. Oh btw 0803 sees the e8600 without problems now, awesomeness all around, also wanted to report that no changes in behavior on boot with the 240m. It a shame though, we'll see if the fans can be controlled with the new flashed rom

 

I flashed the card, flashing was successful, but made the situation worse; the screen is now black but one can see the computer is running and loading up. I guess I'll need a blind flash, or send the card back and put back the 4670 :c

 

I’m sorry for the current situation with GT240M, flashing with another VBIOS or modded one version is always a risk . Try to connect an external monitor and check is it works or make a remote network connection from another computer with the ‘Remote Desktop’. It would be possible to run GPU-Z and NiBiTor for p-states settings. Try to check the system event log and screen properties before the next flash. Don't give up!

Of course that the 0704 supports 7 GB when you have 2 x 3.5 GB DIMMs . FYI there is 90* (903 or 904) C90P BIOS version but unfortunately I don’t have it .

Your fan mod doesn’t work because one of the wires is using as a data channel where the fan should reports its RPMs. All fans without such a feature will not work when are connected to the motherboard logic.

The Wolfdale’s are very very good CPUs for ours C90* with the 6 cells battery. As far the 4670 are the fans running constantly at full speed when you turn on the laptop?

 

It's alright. It's all for the process of learning. People talking about the specific M60J card weren't able to test it on the C90. They "theoretically" speculated that it wouldn't work and dismissed it... they were right haha. I'll try to blind flash it back because I made a back up of the Asus Rom, but I'm not hopeful. It does show however, that now Windows boots because I can see the lights for hard drive reading, the webcam self tests, the speakers turn on etc, so yeah the flash was successful. My guess is this Asus card isn't really a true MXM card so flashing it with the MXM bios from nvidia or Acer won't cut it. I'll try if it will blind flash, if it doesn't back it goes to the seller. He still keeps insisting that his technician said the tag for this card is a C90, that our laptops were made with these cards built in (lol), annoying to say the least.

Thanks for the info on the fans as well, I guess time to try the mods soon. It will make the C90 an unportable laptop, but hey at this stage in the game, it doesn't really matter. Yeah I saw that 903 bios, people were talking about it in the Chinese forum, with google translate from what I understand they're just modified BIOSes created by some users? No one is sharing it, so oh well

Yes the 4670 runs at full speed when I turn on the laptop and doesn't stop. That was with 0704 bios though, Once I give up on the 240m, I'm going to put that card back and see if there are any changes.

 

Thanks for the suggestion Meaker, but it will take too much time to send it somewhere and its not guranteed the flashed BIOs will even post on the C90

So I tried blind flashing it, it was no go. I created an autoexec.bat with nvflash -4 -5 -6 -A -y then the name of the backup rom, tested it on my desktop to see if the autoexec runs (it does) and blind flashed it to the C90, nope doesn't stick, still a black screen that loads windows. Its going back for my refund.

 

Nope, the 0803 BIOS does not stop the fans from running full speed when the 4670 is installed :s

 

It’s good that you made a backup of the original VBIOS. A blind flash will restore the original condition. Use the nvFlash option that will force VBIOS flashing without any check. Also you can try another nvFlash version. I hope that you’ll succeed with your 240M.

Mine was full crap and pain from the beginning. The seller also said that the new card will work with C90. I tried it on my C90S and the result was an attractive black screen with my angry face as a reflection . The blind flash with modded (not sure) VBIOS did the trick for me. After that there was an epic fight with the video driver and finally a bad performance result . The card should be a new but it wasn’t. It was repaired garbage. I sent the crap to the guy who gave me the VBIOS .

My experience until now tells me that MXM as an idea for switchable video card is a dead horse and manufactures marketing trick. It’s a real fun to have 3Dead video cards and the only choice from Asus is to use another one from the same crappy type Gr-r-r. So bye bye laptops and back to the desktops. BTW my current desktop looks equally or even more portable than most of the 17” suitcases .

Another fun is the case with the BIOS. I think that will be good business to sell BIOSes to Asus as 803, 90*, 1603 …. Bingo?! It sounds good “BIOS on sale”, if you buy two then one free VBIOS for you! And with the smallest font “the flash utility is not included”…

For the fan mod I hope Angel to help me out and I’ll show you my brave, bold and shiny work . The portability is not sacrificed even at the moment! The problem is if I unplug the AC power then fans will stop . It’s a battery related problem – ha – ha - .

As for the 4670 and fans as far as I remember they are running as usual with 4670. You can backup & check your VBIOS with ATI Radeon BIOS Editor against the original 4670 VBIOS. Maybe will be wise to ask triturbo or Angel for ideas.

 

Haha, I'll post longer reply when I get back. I'm not bothering with this card, I printed the shipping label, I'm going to send it back. I think the commands I wrote are the overrride force install commands already. If they don't do the trick, then its pretty bad. And like you said, crap performance anyway, so I'm returning this.

MXM is a dead horse indeed - manufacturers don't want to follow the standard anyway since they make money selling you a brand new laptop. So much incompatibilities, let alone its hard to know which laptops use MXM and which don't. I bought an Acer Ferrari One a while back and that had an ATI XGP port - another take on portable video card upgrade solutions, that was dead in the water. Now its Intel/Apple thunderbolt and people promising video card upgrades for it, and its been way past a year already, still nothing. I was considering getting an Asus G55VW because of that promise, but like hell is Asus gona get money from my grubby mitts again until I see solid video card upgrades.

You should post a pic of your desktop, sounds really interesting

 

It might happen with thunderbolt, a port which is generically capable of that sort of thing.

MXM is still alive, but mostly in MSI, alienware and clevo machines.

 

@-=cArLiCuS-MaXiMuS=-

I’ve lost two months in a search of the next laptop and was disappointed by Sager as the only favorite and hope . The strangest thing was that the Asus G55VW-DH71 catches my eyes too . The nearby sitting poor C90S Frankenstein still reminds me for the pleasant Asus surprises and the dirty wish was vaporized with the speed of the light .

My current desktop is ZBOX with 17” LCD and probably its successor will be the " H10 Fanless PC". I’m saying probably because the price of H10 is unreasonably high . According to my calculations if I build the case from pure copper and I’m using the same components then the price will be almost the same. My intention is to have a regular 500W ~ 700W fanless PSU inside the case plus a decent video card as Radeon HD 7850 . Yeah, the case will be heavy as no other else and will not bend too. It’s very tempting thing such a copper case !

 

My next machine will be the MSI 16F3 barebone Have you looked into those duhai?

 

@Meaker

Yeah and I’m not buying it . You are reading me very promptly ! The MSI 16F3 is almost perfect machine and BTW better than current Sager’s models in that class . I’ll tell you only the things I don’t like and what I wanna see in 16F3.

I don’t like the:

• Reflection of the screen bezel (including my face )
• Throttling effect under the stress test with Prime95 & Fullmark
• GPU temp is more than 85*C (~ 92*C)
• FANs noise 48dBa ~ 55dBa

I want:

• Power button accessible when the lid is closed
• ODD like this one in Alienware
• At full load CPU/GPU temps lower than 90*C at 25*C environment (ambient) with fans noise level under 40dBa and without throttling
• Matte screen bezel

Except the mentioned I like almost everything in 16F3 .
Good luck with 16F3 :thumbsup:!

PS: Don’t forget the headphones !

 

Hopefully, people will figure out upgrades for it. Make that MSI and Clevo, Alienwares and others are just rebadged or consigned Clevos, no?

 

Well what can I say, we both have good tastes If you do decide to get that beautiful laptop, the earlier releases don't have thunderbolt, while the later ones do. Prior to the C90, I was crazy of an older Asus laptop model, the Z81SP.. that think was big, bulky and... beautiful lol. It had intelligent things going for it design wise - like how it could accept MXM 3 and HE(?), had a switch to disable the battery since its mostly a desktop anyway. Didn't have the fan mod problems the C90 had, not as serviceable as the C90 but it was still fairly esy to open up, and well its weakest link was its use of Desktop Pentium IVs, those things could warm me up in cold Canadian winters lol. If I find someone whose selling it, I'd be all over that. It was 2k$ brand new back then, so yeah.

I like the H10 fanless PC, looks awesome and it has an upgradeable CPU socket as well. I just saw an article the other day that someone posted on the Verge saying that Intels next gen CPUs will all be BGA (soldered) even for desktops, as they want to kill the enthusiast revenue at take it all to themselves and not mobo manufacturers like gigabyte or Asus... greedy.

BTW also, I think the fastest processor for the C90 is actually a Xeon... the Xeon X3380.. 3.17ghz quad and has the same L2 as a wolfdale CPU

Hmm a pure copper case... Well there's no need to heat sinks anymore I like that idea... you should make one, just liek that dude who made a case entirely of fans... it "blew" me away.

 

That thing is beautiful...I'm not up to date with MSI models didn't know it existed. Wow. That's a great improvement over the MSIs of the past. Damn I opened my classmates MSI netbook maybe two years ago, that thing was held together with masking tape and electrical tape inside... yikes.

 

Even with a fairly noisy fan, the speakers in the MSI systems simply outclass pretty much anything out there.

I think a video review estimated the MSI machine needed to be at 30% to match the 100% volume from an asus G series notebook. Add to that the richness of the sound and you don't have to worry.



My custom 230W PSU should help with the heavy lifting

 

@-=cArLiCuS-MaXiMuS=-

I’ve missed that, thanks. I like this sucker .

I’ve learned my lesson and doesn’t trust or care for manufacture promises . What I’m looking at is what is available right now. The C90* is a perfect example. Last time when I was on the Asus ftp site, the ATI M76 driver for C90S was still there. I will take Asus G55VW only when the seller offers a spare video card or available upgrade at the time of the purchase :yes:.

Asus will not be happy to see Xeon on C90P !

I’ll do it. The case actually works as a giant heatsink, mou-ha-ha-ha and will cook Eggs and Bacon non-stop .

I’ll be happy if the new technology looks like that .

 

With 9600M my current result is 7460 in 3Dmark06 :thumbsup:. I’ll try to reach 8000 , burn Nvidia, burn !

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:thumbsup: Edit 1: Banzai !!! 7540 is down only with the new heatsink at the first test and without all bits and components ! Follow a massive copper upgrade & heavy overclocking until death . A new thread is coming … “ The Roasted Chicken Supremacy” . Now back to work .

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:thumbsup: Edit 2: The copper memory shims for ATI ~ 0.8 mm and Nvidia ~ 1.4 mm are ready! Wow, crazy and precise work. Next - the spacers for Nvidia ~ 2.3 mm .

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Edit 3: With 3650 I hit 4970 and no temperature problems! Go baby, go ! Slow process with the spacers, no difficult only time & strong fingers .

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:yes: Edit 4: It’s done. My second name is already Copper, yeah Mr. Copper ! It’s time to make some records, Mou-ha-ha-ha, but not today because I’m a little bit tired :SLEEP:.

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Edit 5: A new star was born ! With the score 8323 I’ve crashed the 8000 barrier and I’m hunting 9000, why not 10000 . The GPU temp is 86*C with my slow & thin Papst fan array. I didn’t use yet the Angel’s special BIOS 1002b & Fans control application. He told me how to improve the ASME efficiency with 5*C at max loads. I’ve learned so much from him about the cooling and how to apply this knowledge by myself. Let’s talk about my first name – it’s Overclock, yepp Mr. Overclock Copper ! Again back to work .

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Edit 6: The conclusion: Great results & great blisters . It’s not comfortable to type but I’ll be back !

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:rolleyes2: Edit 7: Everything is working fine on Linux. Good, good super good !

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Edit 8: The better results are coming. Take care for your hardware and it will thank you with the highest scores . Right now – heavy dramatic fight with the video drivers . What a mod! I’ll start a video channel. I've decided to take the crap G55VW and make it to fly .

 

BTW duhai,

I went to the verious sites like ROG etc that do have available photos of the G55VW disassembly - it doesn't have a separate video card :c, ie no MXM or pseudo Asus MXM, its integrated into the motherboard. That being said, its still the only laptop with a thunderbolt port and an upgradable CPU.

Why would you like it if technology looks like that?

Let me know when you do start cooking those eggs and bacon, I'm a fan of all day breakfast

 

Asus are moving away further and further from standard MXM with every new machine.

 

Well the VW has a soldered 660M and one thunderbolt port probably flavored with ‘rich’ BIOS settings. As for the MXM – there isn’t such animal anymore and I should be careful with the GPU .

The link was sent to me by Angel as an excellent example of true engineering. I’ve grabbed the idea and my copper case will use a part from that technology . The copper is on its way plus the next components:

• Mobo #1 : Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (ATX)
• Mobo #2 : Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 (Micro ATX)
• CPU : AMD FX-8350 Vishera
• Memory : Corsair Dominator GT 32GB
• Video : Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5

It will be tough work .

Of course, I’ll give you the recipe .

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Edit: The purchase of VW is put on hold until the availability of nvidia Verde drivers . After the last driver struggle I see no point to have decent GPU with old drivers because of manufacture’s laziness.

 

Whoa, those are some insane scores! Congrats Mr. Overclock Copper(?) lol. Yo, you sure its safe to keep temps up that high though for the long run? Its hard to source new parts for the old beast ya know.

 

The reason why I'm thankful for the MXM slot in the C90 is because it gives me a chance to reaplce the video card if it ever broke down, and with the 8600M, that's already a given - its defective and as reports say its only a matter of when it will break down. There were also past reports that the 9600M also was defective as it shares some design with the 8600, but who knows about that. With the G55VW, lets hope that would not be the case. Its thunderbolt or MXM, not both - except on the imac of course.

 

Most 660M chips are soldered, it's only Sager/Clevo that use it on a card.

 

I’ve conducted many tests with different hardware mods configurations and software settings (vBios, video driver) with very interesting results. Right now I understand fully Angel when he told me that there is no need to be increased the fans idle speed.

You can run 9600M GT as longer as you wish without temperature concern (under 86*C with 3Dmark06, ambient ~ 25*C, fans are not at max) and 3Dmark06 results 7200 ~ 7500 under the next conditions :yes::

• video heatsink ASME 4.0/5.0 (includes GPU-CPU bridge)
• bottom cpu/ram assy mod (improved airflow)
• filled fans gaps (improved intake)
• vBios mod (set throttling at 90*C, power states, performance settings)
• video driver 179.34

Be aware that 3Dmax is not good enough as a stability stress test, ATItool is better for this purpose. BTW I prefer any ATI with its 55nm & DDR3. My 9600M is an old and probably repaired card because there are traces from solder spill over it plus many scratches. You are right that is not easy to find out new parts for old systems, but ATI 3650 DDR3 is the happy exception. Why that is not true and for the mobility 4670 ddr3 ?

9600M is not bad it’s only hot and not fully supported (power state modes) on C90S! The bad Nvidia are G84 & G86.


iMac, thunderbolt, mxm – forever young !

 

Imagine how well something like the HD6770M would get on, it's a shame about the MXM II rather than III A or B.

 

Wow, something very rare – a brand new ATI Mobility HD3650 512MB DDR3 MXM2 plus Back Plate for 119 US$ . This is the best 3650 for C90 and easy for mount. No need from a modded heatsink, maybe only 4 screws but I’m not sure. Gr-rr-r, why now, why not 3 weeks ago! Good luck for those who need a new, fast, cool and reliable card :thumbsup:. Damned !

And this Old brand new ATI E2400 with 256MB DDR3, heatsink & fan is really curious !