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Weird, they show a picture of a standard card below, but those were designed for particular embedded systems and may not play nice with regular setups.

512MB DDR3 3650 cards are not common.

 

Nice find duhai. I wonder if it'll work? Probably just for experimentation's sake. but not worth the effort in terms of performance?

 

Yeah, thanks!

Of course that it works. This baby is light years better than the crap 8600M and its brother with DDR2. In my opinion the card is the best card for C90S/P with its good price, performance, superb low temperatures and the bonus - easy for mounting.

The King is the 4670 with the Queen - 9600M.

 

THis is interesting reading after all this time

Are you going to beat my x3380 + 4670M DDR3 C90P and its record score of 9300 3dmarks 06?

Go for it!

 

Hi guys,

I bought an old Nvidia 8600m GT and their was no backplate so I thought using mien would fit but the holes are too small, the one I bought is from an MSI GX700. As I know drilling a hole will damage the card. Is there any way I can make it work without the back plate? I was thinking some long screws that go all the way down but still, the backplate had the holes for the screws to fit and the guy who i bought it from has no backplate or didn't find it.

If any of you guys have one from the many dead Nvidias =) I can buy it from you. I can post the pic so you can see the holes, thanks

 

You don:t need a backplate. You coud use long screws and feed them through from the underside of the card through the heatsink and then tighten up with washers on the heatsink side.

The card with heatsink attached can still be installed no problem in the C90. I did this with the 4670M inside mine a couple of years back. Just find screws that are thin enough. If they are too long still then cut them to size with a metal saw.

 

Hi King of Interns,

It’s a pleasure to have a word with you. I was told by Angel that in the C90* domain you are as Michael Jordan it the basketball and you are the King of C90 riding boldly Pegasus :thumbsup:. I agree completely because I read your posts here a couple years ago and they were very useful for me in my current development. I’m glad that you are still here – the spirit of C90* .

I used C90S to conduct some extreme destructive tests to find out the limits and pluses of different cooling approaches. Here I have to say thanks again to Angel for his valuable advices and ideas that he gave me. As far as the results in my laboratory the test subject 9600M GT hits 9520 points (3DMark 06) with a specially designed Peltie cooling heatsink . Don’t be confused – you can’t use the laptop normally with this type cooling system .

In result a new star was born – the smashing fanless copper case :thumbsup:! Yeah, that baby is deadly quiet and handles perfectly AMD Vishera, 4 SSDs in hardware RAID, three 10 Gbit/s NICs (6 ports) and … Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 … 2 pieces .

Why the speed of the light is so painfully slow .

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Hi jonathanp2008,

I’m so sorry for you! Did you read the thread !? Unfortunately I’ve thrown all my 3 crappy 8600m but your hope is Angel. In our last conversation he said that have 7 bricked 8600m. Just ask him, I’m sure that he will help you.

 

Wow 9500 points! The 9600M GT must have been under liquid nitro to stay stable at the clocks required for such a score! Impressive.

My current machine is the M15x now. Also a flawed but great laptop. Needs work on the fans though. Quite pathetic compared with my 11,000rpm monster.

 

Yeah, it was interesting to watch GPU/CPU temps under 8*C when they are at max loads and the customized Peltie cluster was at ¼ of its power . Banzai :thumbsup:! It wasn’t wise to use this cooling solution on a laptop but C90S survived the torture. Nothing was damaged and I’ve learned that I have a lot of work to do .

As far as 3DMark and its successors – they are only good for a raw measure, not for real hi-loads at long run as gaming 8-10 hours, Prime95 and ATItool.

There are no good laptops after my disappointment with Sager . I like the 15” models and now I think about Alienware :yes: or MSI . I don’t like the MSI’s fan noise and its exterior design. The laptop batteries are a real curse when are dyeing after 2 or 3 years even without use, gr-r-r .

I think that the fans are the weakest part in any laptop. In C90* we have a lot of them and yours 11.000 rpm are very good, wait, no they are the best because as far as I remember you made a manual fans controller . That was good solution and of top of it you saved the laptop portability.

My score is good but there is a big problem - the condensing problem . It’s not easy to adjust properly the Peltie cooling but it is top-notch if you succeed .

 

That I did. I even managed to shoehorn a 4850M inside! I had to cut the cpu heatsink down lol but I did just fit. I was going to build a custom heatsink for it but gave up when I wrecked the vbios.

It worked and all but the msi card only ran on external screen. I couldn't be bothered to blind flash and parted out.

Imagine 4850M plus X3380 at 3.5ghz. If the P35 chipset was better 4ghz would have easily been stable! Combine the ASME heatsink mod with a severe hardvolt mod on the 4850M with screaming fans and I could have had a monster The cooling could have handled 5850/70M type OC performance!!

 

Wow – 4850M in C90P and X3380, copper heatsink, powerful fans and … overclocking until death :thumbsup:! Why Asus didn’t make more C90P or C90Q … and so on ?

Do you know about a laptop with desktop CPU & switchable graphics cards at the moment?

 

No because the mobile CPUs are so close to their dekstop counterparts that there would be no point and the X79 has no onboard graphics.

 

I think the latest is the monster that takes up to 990X i7 cpu and dual mxm B GPUs.

 

In 15” class I think that C90 was the last Mohican .

I didn’t know that there are laptops with X79 ( 17” X79 “laptop”) and was surprised with the official support of Xeon 26xx and ECC memory up to 64 GB in quad channel .

How good the quad channel architecture is

 

Well you have the Clevo P570WM with X79 but no switchable graphics and is obviously a bit of a beast.

 

My surf is waiting for the new wave Intel’s chipsets & CPUs/GPUs. I hope that Clevo will be enough clever to offer desktop CPUs in the laptop class (15”) .

 

No point, at that point a mobile CPU will be faster.

 

You can forget that. No point. Their 17" desktop cpu model could use an update though. It's an ugly out dated piece of cheap plastic and it usually has the worst possible screen Clevo can find.
At the price they're asking for it a magnesium case and a professional grade high end screen would be the minimum I'd expect.

 

Unfortunately I’m sharing your opinion plus the terrible keyboard and the bad mic location. That is why the term “Desktop replacement” sounds to me as “Laptop Replacement” with a killing desktop at half of the price .

 

lol Yeah

If they'd design a proper model they could actually beat out Dell or atleast put up some good competition in the mobile workstation department. A nice sleek magnesium or aluminium chasy + the option for a xeon and a high end mobile Quadro would be cool. (and of course the high end screen at stock) For gaming mobile cpu's are more than enough. Desktop cpu's are for rendering and other professional stuff like that. This current model Clevo has is a bad joke. I'm sorry for everyone who owns one. It's nothing compared to the m18x.

 

What I have to do against the Alien Invasion? I hope Nicole Kidman to help me out. BTW, until my C90S fans are still working the Aliens can’t touch me .

As far as I know only Clevo is offering Xeon 2650 support in their 17” “laptop”. The 8-core Xeon is the bare minimum for my requirements.

 

That is correct. 12 core Ivy Xeons are comming later this year though. You might want to hold off until than and see if Clevo implements them or not.

That is if you actually wanna buy one of these overpriced plastic boxes.

 

I am not attached to Clevo and will be glad to see another laptop with Xeons, especially with magnesium cases, a perfect matte screen, without a glossy bezel, a good keyboard, acoustically properly placed mic(s), HDMI input, Thunderbolt port and quiet fans. If that can be offered by the Alien technology I will be happy to be taken .

 

HDMI lol. Forget it. Display port is what I have! Fans are pretty quiet though (anything is compared with my old monster )

 

You can mod the MSI steelseries into the clevo machine, but your wish list may be a LOOOOONG time in coming i'm afraid.

 

@King of Interns

Aliens, aliens … you are always one step before me, the poor Earth citizen . The Display port and corresponded peripherals are dreams for me yet, Gr-r-r. I like the quiet fans but like it more when they are capable to cool the beast even if they are strong as the Boeing’s Engines .

I like my little old C90S turtle :thumbsup:.

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@Meaker

Unfortunately for now you are right . You know that the hope is dying last.
Maybe Asus will be back …

 

What are you doing that benefits so much from all these cores?

 

Servers & VMs under Linux

 

Thanks for the reply, I will go this weekend to the shop for some small screws. I baked my old one and it was working but after 1 week it got damaged again. Other card replacements are either expensive or slower than the 8600M GT.

@ Duhai. I read the threads but I didn't think about it, too late hehe but thanks.

 

I hope your 8600M to be strong and never last! I read that there are C90S owners that still run just fine theirs original 8600M and Colombodk is one of them.

I have a problem with the power button. It doesn’t turn on the laptop every time when it’s pressed. Still works but it should be replaced. Is someone knows the part number of the power switch or from where I can to order it?

I feel myself like an old C90S dinosaur .

 

Hi Duhai,

I have an extra chassis hanging around, let me look for it and I will give you my extra power button, the problem is that I left it in Sweden and I'm working now in Dubai but I will ask my grandma,

For my cards, i might as well go for a ATI HD 2600, i found a cheap one in Ebay but it is from an HP, will it work (something about the Vbios)

Tested Working HP 8510w 8510p ATI Radeon HD2600 256MB Video Graphics Card | eBay


try to bid on this one:

Velocity Micro x20 Asus C90S Laptop for Parts Repair not Working A Condition | eBay

Not a cheap replacement, but you will have for life spare parts. Also, ask the guy if it has a video card, if it does, i can chip in for the battery and the video card if they are working good.

 

Hi Jonathanp2008,

I would like to thank you for the kind intention to help me out !

I was advised to check & clean the plastic button and the power switch beneath. I’ve did it and now everything is fine. It was a dirty work – I had to disassemble almost the entire laptop :thumbsup:.

I don’t know whether it will work on C90S. From the picture I see that the vBIOS chip is there and if it is not locked then the card will work in our laptop.​

The idea for ebay is good but I prefer to not spend more money for my laptop .

 

Great that you fixed it =)

If it came from an HP laptop, it must be locked to work only for HP laptops i suppose.

The C90S I have is still quite fast, but upgrades and repair has cost me quite some and instead of selling it, I prefer to give it away to somebody who needs it more, but before this, I want to fix it properly so a simple video card that works will be perfect.

 

Maybe you are right that the vBIOS of 2600 is locked and unfortunately the trick with the blind flash will not work because there is not vBIOS version for that model with 256 MB.

The cheapest solution is ATI 3470/3650 but not the ATI like that without a vBIOS chip or Toshiba’s Veglio. All ATIs with the red layout for Acer are good for us. They have a green label over the vBIOS. An example for a good NEW card is this one for ~ $81 – 3650/256/DDR3. If you find for the same price with 512 MB it will be better.

Don’t buy this mounting plate. It is wrongly described and will don't work for ATI neither 8600. It’s good only for 9600M.

If you get an ATI without a back plate then you can attach the heatsink with screws, washers and nuts as I did it at first. The closest idea how to do it is on “ C90S Unleashed”. I’m not sure but as far as remember here was a thread with a picture of the King of Interns’s C90S heatsink.

The pictures are from "C90S Unleashed" (pic. 1 - with washers, pic. 3 - with a spacer)



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Almost forgot that you will need from 4 thermal pads for the memory chips.

 

Thanks Duhai, I will still use mine as it seems to work now =)
It is getting 90 Degrees C in idle haha and before the baking it was under 74 at idle. Imaging playing it will burn the laptop hehe.

I don't want to spend more money one this laptop and as soon as the card dies for sure, I will either give it away or just sell it cheap on ebay for someone to grab it and fix it.

 

Hi, I'm an Italian C90S owner and my 8600M GT is not working so well.
You say the Acer Ati are good for C90S, but the boy of the ebay insertion told me it is not good for Asus (maybe he doesn't know....).
Are you sure it will work ? Because I'd love to buy that VGA, I don't wanna spend so much money for a new 8600M GT (which is a bad vga...)

 

@ jonathanp2008
With the idle 90*C temperature you are ready for the North Pole & Antarctida.
I’ve said it once and now again “Burn Nvidia, burn! ”.

Good luck!

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@ Ipnorospo38
Hi Ipnorospo38,

There is only one way to learn whether a MXM II video card will work in C90S – the principle of trial and error. AFAIK there are only two people in the world running ATI’s cards in their C90S – Angel and Me (how humble I am ). I’m using right now a HD3650/DDR2 from Acer with the red PCB layout and vBIOS chip on the board. It works perfectly! Here is a picture of 3650/DDR2 (from “C90S Unleashed”):

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I’m 100% sure that the card for $ 81 – ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 MXM II 256MB DDR3 is OK. It will not work in C90S only if the vBIOS is locked. I don’t know for the existence of Acer’s ATI cards with a locked vBIOS. Angel told me that he has 7 or 8 ATI video cards (Acer) and one of them is 3650/DDR3. Acer’s 4650/DDR3 works too in C90S.

If I were in your shoes I’ll grab this baby :thumbsup:. The card is the best card for C90S – 55nm, cool and faster than 8600M & 3650/DDR2 with a vBIOS chip and a green label over it. Most of the sellers are not aware with the cards compatibilities that they sell. ​

The 3650/DDR3 was a dream for me but at the time of my research it wasn’t available on the market .

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Yes, in fact I asked you because I know much electronic goods sellers don't know so much about the stuff they sell, and by the way there is an Italian ebayer selling HD 3650 and he says that this vga is very versatile, but I was not sure because he sells 'em in different pages (eg: HD 3650 for C90S, HD 3650 for Acer bla bla bla, etc etc...), now I realize he has only one type of this VGA and he just diversifies auctions.....however it's about 130/140€ shipping cost included, while the Chinese seller you linked will be about 70/75€ for me, shipping and taxes included, so......
It's very comforting there is someone which loves to know everything about it's laptop like you all.
I'll grab it immediatly, many many thanks. :thumbsup:
I will post some photos if I will be able to repair my C90S.

P.S. #1 I bought these thermal pads, they are a bit expensive, but I think they are so good, and I will use 'em for my VGA and CPU too... ----> Fujipoly Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad - 60 x 50 x 0.5 - Thermal Conductivity 17.0 W/mK - FrozenCPU.com

P.S. #2 I'm new in the forum, can you tell me where I can find the modded Bios for Wolfdale CPUs, because the original thread has two non-working links in it, thanks.

 

After your last post I should correct one of my statements to:
"AFAIK there are only three people in the world running ATI’s cards in their C90S – Angel, Me and You ."
… Welcome to the club !

The most difficult thing for me at first was the missing information about how to disassemble the laptop, what is the proper video card, how to attach the video heatsink and so on. Actually the work is not difficult.​

BTW Angel is the author of the “ C90S Unleashed”. For me his place is the real home of C90S – full descriptions, quality pictures, manuals, stable results, deep knowledge and almost everything what you need for our laptop. Thanks to him my C90S is alive again ! Here are alternative implementations for Nvidia from NightWalker and Unxconformed.

Good choice of thermal pads – a very important and convenient part for an easy and fast mounting. There is a quality manufacture in Europe. He is close to you (in Poland) and selling on ebay. The link was sent to me by Angel as an example of quality pads in any size and thicknesses. I’ll try to find the link if you need it. From FrozenCPU I’m buying the thermal compound IC Diamond.

You can take it from “ C90S Unleashed” or the direct link " Asus C90S BIOS version 1002A".​

 

He he, we're a select club...
Well if I have some problems I'll immediatly go to C90S Unleashed. If you can link me the Polish vendor would be nice, thanks.
I can't belive there is such an awesome thermal paste like that ! It is relatively cheap, more and more powerful than the Coolaboratory Liquid Metal and non electrical conductive !! Wow !! I think I will try it on of these days.
Thanks for the 1002A link.
Have a nice day.

 

Two more questions:
1. will I need a 120w adapter with HD 3650 on ? Now I have a 90w one...
2. can you tell me please where I can download XP x86 drivers ? (on the official site they are disappeared...)

 

Found out everything on C90S Unleashed....:thumbsup:

 

Hi all,
Would anyone be interested in a fully working C90s in mint condition, all original parts except RAM that has been upgraded to 2x 2 GB?

When I say mint condition, I mean mint condition: max use: 3 weeks. Pictures can be made available for public access if requested.

I'll include a 9600GT M, never used, ready to mod and put into the C90s.

Includes all original cases, disks etc.

Of course, it is working 100% and can be used as-is or an adventurous modder can perform mods or use it for spare parts.

Located in Copenhagen, Denmark. International shipping is available, but not cheap.


Regards
Colombodk, creator of the modded BIOS for the C90s

 

That is tempting. Bring back the good old days eh columbok!!

 

Well, since I moved to Copenhagen from Aarhus it has been sitting unused in its box in a cupboard... now almost two years ...I no longer have the time to tinker with hardware stuff, so it would be better if someone could make use of it.

 

Run a competition!

I can't justify it though

If it had an MXM-A slot with a Firepro M4000 it would be worth a play, but stuck back in the HD4000 era.... eek.

 

@Ipnorospo38

In the last 6 years I’m using everywhere ICD and there is no problem at long run with the pump-out effect or its structure stability. In the past I had to change/repaste every one year to keep the temperatures low because of the thermal conductivity degradation. With ICD the problem is gone.

However there is another good thermal compound – “Shin Etsu”. The “Shin Etsu X23-7783D” own the best thermal conductivity and according to its specifications should be better than ICD. I heard very good words about “Shin Etsu” but unfortunately I have no experience with this TIM.

As far as the link to the Polish thermal pad vendor I’m still trying to find out the e-mail with it.

Just FYI I’m with the original Asus PSU 90W, Intel E6600 which is more power hungry than Wolfdales and everything is fine. Here is a picture with the current temps of 3650 at 26*C room temperature:​

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Ok, so this means a little bit more money saved to me I will certainly use the original psu...
Don't worry for the link, don't get mad in searching for it

Thank again for the C90S Unleashed link. I think I will try to do a custom kick-as* heatsink, I really love DIY.

Temperatures are good, expecially vga ones which are really really better. 8600M GT was always about 75° (in this nVidia card, "VGA" maybe stands for Volcano God Anger....)

 

You read my mind, I’m really mad .​

You are welcome! The custom solution is the best way for me too. I’m expecting your good results and satisfaction. After the mode I've done I like it more my C90S .​

Ha-ha-ha, Fully agreed :thumbsup:! As an addition from me about the first part namely:
NVidia 8600M / GT – No Video in Asus after 8600 Minutes / Grand Trouble. ​

 

Wow, my reply is the #1000 !!
Your name addition is great, perfectly describes the card...
It will took a bit for my results, first because the stuff has to arrive in Italy (it will took about 20 days...), second because I wanna do it very well, so it will took much time, but I promise that if I will do a good job, I will post everything.