*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

omg its like a huge turn in the story .......new bios WOAHHHH imma hold my breath

pretty messed up asus just kinda didnt announce it they just shipped it ....

 

Here is my 3DMark Vantage Score running stock everything. Nothing Over Clocked.



I know nothing about Benchmarking, is this an OK score?

 

yes it is.

gonna have to say something was not right...
dx9@1680x1050/stock
highest 242
average 109
dx9@1920x1080/stock
highest 187
average 99
dx10@1920x1080/stock
highest 159
average 47

 

WOOT lol. I am going to try it overclocked now. My max overclock setting is 17% using the built in tool. I don't want to take it easy, but I don't want to blow it up either. How should I run it?

 

i cant benchmark my Whitebook. during the last test. 3dmark stops reponding. no matter how many times i reinstalled my os so i gave up. (i just did it now)

 

run the 17 percent first. if it's going to lock up...now is going to be the time for it.

what do you mean, you can't run any more test?? you didn't bios flash your cards right?

 

No i just cant run 3dvantage for some reason. if i run it it always fail at the last part. i even just ran the last test alone and it fail.(i think the gpu2 test). i just tried it a while ago and i got a lock up
(i dont know if it was a lockup but nothin would respond, not even the mouse. and i waited for 15min and still nothing. so i power it down with the power button and turn it back on.) this is the only test i cant run.

i didnt flash the gpu bios or havent done any over clocking yet because of my hdd and the quad is coming sat or monday. (watch out john. Lol.)

 

you gonna need to install an older version of the physx software...yes, i know ati cards dont use this (for the people getting ready to say something) but for some reason it works better with an older version. with the brand new version of physx, mine gets stuck on the last cpu screen. it just sits there looking stupid....but when i switched back to like 8. something..it worked fine.

 

do you know about what number before nvidia took it over.

 

try 8.08 or 8.09 and then run the one test you get stuck on to see if it works.

 

Here are my scores with 17% overclocking. No issues, lockups or artifacts.

 

was this 17 percent all gpu or cpu or both?

side note:
and for this to start showing up on orb... it will have to be modded the way it should show (have no clue on this one)
but orb has this listed now.
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870

 

Looks like the GPU scores are fast approaching yours in vantage huh ?.

 

indeed quad...indeed.
if kinc would run a 3dvantage run, we would know exactly where it stood
so far the highest to date is 10.5 dual 4870's gpu

 

What were E-'s highest GPU numbers on the 3870s ? do you remember off hand ?.

 

When I go into the Catalyst Control Center it shoes that the GPU Clock and the Memory clock are overclocked. It doesn't say anything about the CPU. The Asus Overgear software might do that, but I doubt it.

 

Shouldnt you be able to see if the CPU is overclocked by running CPU-Z ?. Could have sworn someone on here was running 3.2ghz or higher with the turbo button.

 

gpu = 9750

time to test out the turbogear....

 

That was using the Turbogear to over clock. You can see the changes in the ATI Control Panel when you use Turbo Gear.

 

well then we are on the right track!

looks like we have a keeper. if madmech has time to really run some more test, then im all out for staying around and helping... so far he has had no problems so we are looking alot better than the other day. im still gonna stick with it was a bios issue.

if you dont mind madmech
run vantage at extreme
run 3dmark06@ 1920x1080 resolution
thanks in advance.
and this should get the wheels going on a potential lockup if it's going to start...

 

I am more than happy to run more tests and push this thing to the max (crap, I sound like a soda commercial) but for now I need some zzzzzzzz's.

I will kick it into full gear and slam it to the extreme in the morning

 

How about some user pictures of the notebook? There may be some posted but in a 200 page thread its hard to find them.

 

paradyne64
ASUS BIOS Version 0502 Date 02/25/09
EC Firmware WNB-0504

madmechs version
Asus BIOS: 0404
Build Date: 12/30/08
EC Firmware Version: WNB_0504
both w90's seem to be working fine, but still need the numbers off the first batch of w90's.
looking through all these post to find the vga bios...one sec....

 

Yeah saw those, I just figured we had more.

Im looking to get the W90Vp from Gentech with the quad core maybe.

I want a quad core upgrade over my dual in the G50V, the extra screen res will be nice for photoshop too.

 

like all other expectant laptop owners do...drool over the old keyboard till it gets there....lol

old vbios looks to be 10/24/08 but im not sure

edit:
they both have the same EC Firmware Version: WNB_0504, but different bios dates...

 

This happens often, I think they leak out test files in small quantities to try you out as an enthusiast to be a Guinea Pig.

After they see it works they host it full time

Serious too lol

 

so something was deff up with either the bios or the firmware or the video bios or all 3....

yep! we covered this in our "test dummy laptop hand book" a few pages back...lol

 

yeah. and about time too. we went through this with the 3870's..trying to find out how well they fared and it took for ever. and people didn't know what they wanted to do, because we couldn't get decent runs on everything.... i want to get as many runs on the 4800's before the gtx280/260 hits. so i'll know what way i want to go in a few months.

 

So presumably they will eventually have a download link for updated bios?

 

I have not been in this thread for a few days and it seems like months ...

So did someone say that there are new bios to try out ... that "may" result in the fixing of the problems that have dogged the newly released w90 setup ???

so ... who have the new bios and who have patched their setup ... and who is still having problems after patching and who is running fine after patching ???



A Falling Cat named Spangky

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The only thing we know is that everybody who has purchased the latest "batch" of them has gotten a problem free one (at least from the people who have posted here).

 

Trust me, statistically you find over 100 more post for every "bad" laptop or problem for every 1 "good" so if you have seen nobody post a problem thats a very good sign that things are going well.

People simply do not post when all is well, but hey always do when there is a problem.

Even those people who are not forum members, they find the forum in a google search when they have a problem. All the happy no problem people will be gaming or something and never come grace the forums with there presence.

A lot of people do not understand this trend and assume when they find 2 or 3 problem post about a product that its got a lot of issues.

 

Here is a question.... curent owners, hows the speakers?

Nice and loud? Does that subwoofer actually help out? I like good sound and thats important to me.

I assume the way too glossy screen that is on my G50V still exists on the W90... but I guess I can live with it.

 

Loud as F*&%!

Seriously, the first time you play any kind of sound you turn it down. It's crisp and clear and has that "deep" feeling, but it's almost too loud at anything above 50%. So I imagine the higher settings are for people who need to hear the computer through dollar-store walkie-talkies on either side of an active airport runway.

 

Now thats awesome news. The G50V has the same kind of altec lansing speakers and while very high quality they lacked volume.

So trying to watch a movie with background noise was a problem, or some low volume youtube movies were hard to hear.

Depending on your source it sucks. My MP3s are nice and loud because the source is louder, games are for the most part loud too but it was mostly some movies & youtube stuff that you could not get loud enough.

 

say ... has them w90's got them turbo buttons that will offer a single click to boost up the cpu power ???

on a 2.0 Ghz quad core how much cpu boost will the turbo offer ???




A Falling Cat named Spangky

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It does have it, but the quad core version is not out yet so nobody knows what the clock speed will be. Its probably going to be the same % of fsb increase so it wont lead to a huge increase on its own. But the fact that there is software that overclocks the cpu means that we can use additional software to increase it more.

Plus I noticed in the past that the clockgen software often does not only just change the fsb but also the voltage. So ideally you put it in the highest setting first and then use another software to push the fsb higher resulting in a nice high overclock that would not be possible with stock voltage.

The limitation is usually hitting the fsb wall of some sort, being able to overclock in the bios like on a desktop lets you change fsb multipliers so you do not run into this issue as easy.


The nice thing about a quad is that everything is x4 though

So even if it goes only from 2.0 to 2.2ghz thats essentially 8.8ghz of power. The G50V and I assume the dual core of the W90 is the same with a max of 2.93gz on the dual core thats about equal to 6ghz of total processing power.

Its going to make worlds of difference for some users, especially those like me that use applications that max out all 4 cpu cores.

 

You should keep in mind though, not all games use all 4 cores (Crysis doesn't, Supreme Commander does, for example), so you should look at what games and applications you plan on running.

In the aggregate, most games don't use all four cores, but a lot of professional applications (Lightwave, Cinema 4D, etc., think rendering and imaging apps, and you get the idea) can benefit from them.

 

Say, comparing a quad core and a dual core ...

Megahertz for Megahertz sake - is a single core from a 2 gigahertz dual core equal in processing power compared to a single core from a 2 gigahertz quad core ???

are these 2 single cores the same ... or are they different ... processing power wise ???


A Falling Cat named Spangky

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Correct, however at this point in the move of technology the quad core is a better bet, it will handle any dual core task just fine but excel in all the quad core tasks. Only more and more games will start to use quad core.

In your example of Crysis & SC thats a true life fact, but the details behind those facts are as follows:

Crysis s a very GPU heavy game the cpu will not matter as much, I have never seen my cpu at 100% or even close on my desktop quad.

SC is a very heavy CPU game and its pretty much known that a quad core is required to hope to play it with good settings it easily reaches 100% on both cores of a dual and starts lagging, while a quad can get pegged down to the high 90's pretty easy.

The trend to notice here is the games that need the power of the quad are made to use them and the games that are still only using 2 cores are mostly gpu dependent games or older games and will not need or use all of the quads power. I can not personally think of any game that is so heavily cpu dependent that your going to max out 2 cores of the quad and be left with a cpu bottleneck where the dual core would have been ok.

Understand the relationship between cpu & gpu and realize I am not mentioning the detailed facts that faster gpu's will put a higher load on the cpu as they render faster.

Example: A desktop GTX280 may put my quad core under 100% for 2 cores in Half Life 2 because it eats the game alive, but its going to be at like 300fps

A desktop 8800GT would probably only have the cpu at 40% load because it would only be at 100fps.

This does not really qualify as cpu bottleneck in terms of real life performance as your already at 300fps, just turn on vsync and get 60fps and watch the cpu load drop to like 30%

This is the nature of cpu & gpu relations. Games like SC are eating mucho cpu power for the AI & Physics not the graphics.


Note: I will admit 2ghz is a bit on the "slower" side but even at that speed I feel the chances of having a cpu bound issue on a dual core game are very slim, and what little worry I have is taken away by the fact that you can overclock the cpu with overdrive or turbo gear. I can personally guarantee you than when the A1 owners start posting scores that the X1 owners will start to envy the quad core owners and many of them will wish they had gotten it instead.

Im at about 90% sure that I am going to get a W90 A1, and if I really wanted too I would get a faster quad off ebay to upgrade. You may not be able to do this on the X1, the cooling may be different and I feel there is a high chance the bios will not allow quad cores.

 

Yes almost 100% identical if our comparing the same series, a C2D vs C2Quad for example but you cant compare it to say an I7 or a P4.

This can easily be seen with cpu benchmarks like WPrime, notice the quads at the same speed cut the time almost exactly in half from a dual core.

Also in video rendering I notice the same trend.

Do not cross reference desktop & notebook cpu's though a desktop cpu seems to be a bit faster by nature.

 

so the bottom line is that if your going to play a game that runs on single core ... a quad core 2 ghz wont cut it ... but a 3 ghz dual core will ...

as there are not a lot of games that make use of the quad's power ...

so chances are that for the time being ... it would offer you a better gaming experience if you stick to a 3 ghz dual core ...

true ???

A Falling Cat named Spangky

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No the bottom line is that any game that is dual only the quad should handle without problems, but any game that needs a quad the dual core has no hope. You should always invest in newer technology and thats the quad core.

Games ran fine on 2ghz dual cores 6 months ago, so why wont they run fine on a 2ghz quad core now? Plus like I said its going to overclock.

 

so it would be a safe bet to invest in them w90 with them quad core 2ghz cpu ???

I should have a swell gaming experience with this setup ???

A Falling Cat named Spangky

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I would say thats a safe bet, but if your not a pioneer in new tech sit back and let other people evaluate it first before buying.

 

thank you thank you and thank you




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Ok so I've read the first 10 pages or so and the last 5 or six but doesn anyone have any idea when these machines will be available again? Newegg doesn't have them and there is no estimated availability date. I am fairly excited about this machine but it seems like no one knows when we will be able to get more.

Also has anyone done any benchmarks and if so can you please link the results? Thanks for any help.

 

those benchmarks are right after those fist 10 pages you stopped at...

 

Don't want to try xoticpc..?They have free ups ground shipping...but you have to wait until end of this month...

 

any news about official driver modding??
At least what were the results with a single card OCed with 9.2 ??