*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

I believe Bibsybob went down this path rather than use the recovery partition. Think he's had more problems than most now.

 

No its is not that obvious. We are only seeing complaints from ppl who are having problems.

People who don't have problems, do not have complaints. They are not nearly as vocal as the ones that do. They do not seek out forums such as this. That is human nature.

 

Well, considering this problem is driver related, the issues probably will translate across operating systems. I have a small laptop hard drive lying around so I will install that into the second bay and put win7 on it. At least I can be a bit more adventurous with that install. I'll test with the stock asus drivers and the newest ati drivers (9.2?) and report back tomorrow.

 

make sure it aint the same ASUS GUY that told striker it was one pcb board and not two.

and make sure it aint the same 10 people from ati that we talked to that said it wasn't they're job to make mobile drivers but in fact it was asus job to take care of it.

not sure how far your going to get, but umm.... more power to you!

i would start with something a bit less adventurous.... since most aren't running win7 out of the box...just a suggestion and not a what you should do....

 

well win7 has a built in mobility ati driver. making able to run games and everything.

 

its true and i also think it is 2 cards

also i would like to know if 9.2 works i have it avaliable in my sig
win 7 has a driver that should reconize your cards

you beat me don

 

Many of "us guys" are depending on you striker. Dont shrug it off.

 

Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. Would I need to install any driver from ati or asus then, or just go immediately into some games?

 

It has been confirmed many times that there are two separate cards, and not a single piece of silicon. I have posted pics (not mine) some time ago. Here are they are again:



The two separate 4870s are visible towards the middle-left (with black-sprayed copper heatsink on each)

 

you can go into games but i recommend you at least install CCC before anything. just avoid the drivers for now. they work great.

 

That picture is very interesting because I'm still losing sleep over the fan grill placement issue. The middle 4870 card exhausts much hotter air than the one on the side. If you look at the bottom of the unit with the cover on, the grill sits atop the small passive heatsink to the right of the fan in question instead of over the fan itself like the other two fans inside. Perhaps I'm missing something, but it just makes no sense to me.

 

Cannot believe ppl are still making this an issue. Its two cards. I fix lappys for a living... its two discrete cards with discrete 512MB ram each, and two heatpipes to two fans and two heat exchangers.

Praise be to Asus to allow you to check it yourself easily. One panel to access all, that is awesome.

 

For those complaining about new products shouldn't have flaws, you should really check out the M15X complaint threads when it first came out. Or over the next few months. I'm not saying that one should expect flaws either, but compared to the issues the M15X owners had, you guys are actually looking quite fortunate. At least no one has complained of build, quality, overheating or cracking issues just yet. Give it a chance, the w90s have barely been out.

It would seem that Asus didn't do a great job with testing these laptops, but one should give them a chance.


Don't forget you're calling Asus North America when you call in regarding issues. The laptops are made either in Asus Taiwan or Asus China, and since the Asus North America folks haven't even gotten their hands on a model yet, I would consider their word somewhat suspect.

 

Good point, there is prolly a greater braintrust in this forum than in Texas.

 

As long as someone is working on it, I don't care who.

And one more thing. In order to drown out the phenomenal clicking from the hard drive, I put some headphones on to listen to music. Unfortunately, there is an equally terrible squeal coming through the headphone jack. It isn't the headphones, as I've never experienced this problem before. Could other owners test their headphone jacks to determine if the problem is also universal or just with mine? Thanks.

 

when you guys installed these drivers...did you go to intels site to download the newest chipset drivers? or even install the chipset drivers that came with your system? this is a major part of a fresh install.

 

Constant clicking doesn't sound like a good thing. You might want to d/l HDTune and run a diagnosis on it if you haven't.

 

yeah, it can be caused by the chipset drivers as well... because the correct hd controller may not be installed...(speculation of course)

 

Again thanks to all the owners currently doing what they can to resolve this issue and Striker for his perseverance.

When I buy something, I expect it to work...if there are problems, I expect them to be fixed...not oh we don't have one yet so sorry. Let me ask you this, if it were a 3000$(cad) toaster and it would only toast your bread 10% at a time, how happy would you be?

Most people who purchased it probably have only begun getting them. Regardless, evidence is showing an abnormal amount of problems with this unit. If you want to talk about human nature and what people do when there are problems, voice it in a human psychology forum. We don't need your sarcasm and thousands of years worth of wisdom by your holy self. If ASUS doesn't want to loose customers, it should release products that have gone through vigorous testing to resolve any issues like this...and this issue is so evident that it could slap an ASUS tech across the face if it was any more evident. As far as I'm concerned ASUS should be giving all the owners daily updates on progress (if any) that they are making on this issue.



As for the rest of everyone, glad to hear again the drive is 7200rpm...I will most likely keep mine and shove an ssd in there for the os. Waiting not so patiently for my unit to come. I agree there are two cards and not one. ASUS has only a slight clue whats going on. Hopefully the drivers and such can be resolved in a timely manner between ASUS and ATI...hope these two companies can combine knowledge and solve these issues.

Lots of hope, thats all we got at this moment.

 

Is there a person up to date that has a working, non crashing w90 ? I'm already lost on who got what and who's got what problem.
It would b nice if maybe we could get update on first page on who has received their w90 and what is the status.
Like:
striker: still crashing, trying to fix
billybob: returned for rma
..........
..........
..........
It would help the newcomers with sorting through 100 pages now

 

I am quite surprised that we have not heard of asus's response on this ...

All we have seen is that they are still waiting for a test setup to arrive before they can fix this issue ....

I would have tought that right on day 1 of the problem ... asus taiwan or asus china would have gone ahead to fix this issue on the spot ... 24x7 ???

???

 

Received my W90vp-x1 last Wednesday, and haven't had a single problem with it. I have it mostly running 24/7, sleeping it when I travel.

I have been very busy with work, but have tried to do a little bit each day to get it configured so I can sell my previous laptop (Asus G2s-Extreme, make an offer ).

Ran Windows Updates a few times and installed basic software: Firefox, Safari, iTunes, Office 2007, K-lite Mega Codec, DMC4, FutureMark benchmarks, Spybot/Spyware Blaster, Norton NIS 2009, configured and personalized it, used TurboGears to overclocked it to +17% (3.289Ghz).

It's run on battery, run on AC, used 802.11g/n wireless, Bluetooth (included Asus mouse), 1Gbit ethernet, ATT USB HSDPA, hooked up a 2nd monitor using HDMI, and added another disk drive (320GB WD).

It hasn't crashed once. I have booted many times, after installs, and it always boots quickly. I haven't had a single head scratching problem running benchmarks or applications.

I am still running on the stock install, I downloaded the Asus updates for the W90vp before I received the laptop, but haven't had a chance to follow up and install the updates. I did download/install the Intel Matrix update posted by Asus for the W90vp for x64.

Gotta say the laptop is very impressive in quality, looks, and performance. I couldn't be happier. Sorry to hear others are having issues, but the same is true with just about every high-end limit pushing design that gets released. For me, this has been the least painful Release 1.0 product I have used in a while.

I also had very good success with the Asus G2s-Extreme. The only annoyment has been keeping the Blu-Ray software/firmware up to date. If I were keeping the G2s-Extreme I would likely replace the drive with the LG Blu-ray GBW-T10n. I am ordering one for the W90vp-x1

BTW, if anyone has a reproducible problem with their W90vp-x1, and I can test it on my W90vp-x1, please let me know. I am still pretty busy through Wednesday this week, but would be happy to help when I have a break.

Thanks to all for their informational links and comments.

Scott

 

Hey at least someone isnt having any problems. what games do you have? and when did you place you order? from where?

 

W90 X1 = fail, have $4k saved up for a gaming lappy , seems like I have to wait for the new clevos

 

Whoa a real workin one I would get him to copy his driver unno but it seems to be workin. Can some one install win7 n see how that driver works?

 

so has anybody found out if its gddr5 on the newly produced units or what?
also, im 99% sure its video driver related for everybody. uninstall the ATI drivers as well as turbo gear software. sure its ugly, but you have zero crash's or freeze's. at least thats what worked for me.

if you intend to install xp, you need to wait as there is no driver support for M98 (and that is what the cards are) for xp

also , can you buy chasis parts direct from asus ?

 

they said it was an error in the add.

 

aww so sweet no freezes no lockups and came on here only wen v were looking for sum one who dint have problem with w90vp n there popped sum one with 0 posts strange....mean no offence to anyone and apologize if sum one felt so but its strange.....

 

Hey dondadah88, it was the perfect storm for work/commitments, so I haven't had time to install anything other than work applications and benchmarks.

Ordered from Newegg Friday night 2/20/09, shipped 2/23, arrived 2/24. Bottom of 1 side of the outer box was crushed, but the internal packing was so good (peanuts and fat rolled up bubble wrap) it didn't even scratch the Asus packaging.

Here are some Benchmark results:

Devil May Cry 4 Benchmark:

W90vp-x1 - Stock on Internal Screen - Runs Glitch Free DX10
Scene 1280x768,None,High | OC17%1920x1080,8x,SuperHigh
1 147.65 139.85
2 127.18 89.19
3 165.55 151.56
4 105.34 101.96

For comparison:
Asus Rampage II Extreme, HDMI out, i7 965 4Ghz, 6GB 1600mhz, BFG GTX295 680/1245/1475, Glitch Free DX10
Scene 1920x1080,C16xQ,SuperHigh
1 206.08
2 144.83
3 237.78
4 144.83


3D Vantage Scores (Full version came with Rampage II board):

W90vp-x1
Can't make results public... probably unapproved driver?
3DMark|GPU |CPU |GPU 1|GPU 2|CPU 1 |CPU 2 |Feature 1|2 |3 |4 |5 |6
P9039 |10330|6573 |29.95|30.58|876.94 |9.53 |1138.18 |5.83 |34.10|14.12|25.06|78.87

Asus Rampage II Extreme, HDMI out, i7 965 4Ghz, 6GB 1600mhz, BFG GTX295 680/1245/1475
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=766934
3DMark|GPU |CPU |GPU 1|GPU 2|CPU 1 |CPU 2 |Feature 1|2 |3 |4 |5 |6
P21743|18200|52256|54.4 |52.19|3443.84|254.36|1270.83 |10.29|60.04|23.54|33.14|69.33


3DMark06 Basic

W90vp-x1
Can't make results public... probably unapproved driver?
3DMark|SM2.0|SM3.0|CPU |RtP |FF |CPU1|CPU2|CF |DF
15429 |6963 |8210 |3001|55.72|60.33|0.95 |1.52 |89.44|74.75

Asus Rampage II Extreme, HDMI out, i7 965 4Ghz, 6GB 1600mhz, BFG GTX295 680/1245/1475
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10179975
3DMark|SM2.0|SM3.0|CPU |RtP |FF |CPU1|CPU2|CF |DF
21942 |8009 |11091|6016|77.08|56.4|2.16 |2.69 |139.2|82.62


Please suggest some games you are running/benchmarking for me to load (and what patch level they are running), and I will put them to the top of the list for loading/testing. Again, probably not till Thursday/weekend.

Scott

 

great work scott!

i take it that's dmc4?

now we see the w90 is working it's way up the vantage list. at 10.3 for gpu score.

there are a lot of demo games around to download. and lot of them have built in benchmarks as well

 

bcool15, here is a copy/paste from my Newegg account:

Recent Order Status (view all)
* 2/20/2009
* Order #XXXXXXX
* Status: Shipped
* $2,471.14

Order Summary
Qty Product Description Price
Shipped from CA, USA - Tracking #: XXXXXXXXXXX
1
ASUS W90Vp-X1 Intel Core 2 Duo T9600(2.80GHz) 18.4" Wide UXGA 6GB Memory 320GB HDD DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 X2 NoteBook - Retail
Item #: N82E16834220503
Desktop PC, Notebook, and Tablet PC Return Policy
$2,199.99
Subtotal $2,199.99
Tax $159.50
FedEx 1Day $108.66
Rush Processing $2.99
Order Total $2,471.14

Actually, I have been watching the thread since -=$tR|k3r=- started it (thanks -=$tR|k3r=- !), and I was also worried when the first results weren't so promising. I almost canceled my order, but was too busy

So, you can imagine I am quite relieved that my W90vp-x1 is so well behaved.

It's easier to take the time to post results when we have stuff to complain about, or problems to solve, and not so much when things are running well.

Finally forced myself to take the time to post. I wasn't seeing anyone else post that they were having good results so I figured I needed to let you all know there is at least one of us with a stable W90vp-x1. Where are the rest of you guys??

Now, to sleep, gonna be busy tomorrow

Good Night, Scott

 

Gaming Benchmarks from notebookcheck.com by way of pctuning.cz
see where you guys fit in at...

The Czech website pctuning.cz have already published an extensive review of the Asus W90 with a Intel C2D T9600 and 6 GB RAM. The following gaming benchmarks stem from their review.

Test Drive Unlimited: 1920x1080, high: 47-72 fps -> fluently playable
Bioshock: 1920x1080, high: 67-207 (avg. 131) fps -> fluently playable
Call of Duty 5: 1920x1080, extra: 29-92 (avg. 53) fps -> fluently playable
Crysis Warhead: 1920x1080, Mainstream: 13-45 (avg. 32) fps -> fluently playable (single stutters)
Far Cry 2: 1920x1080, ultra: 21-55 (avg. 33) fps -> fluently playable
Flatout Ultimate Carnage: 1920x1080, high: 36-48 (avg. 43) fps -> fluently playable
Race Driver Grid: 1920x1080, high: 34-56 (avg. 43) fps -> fluently playable
Stalker Clear Sky: 1920x1080, Maximum: 16-39 (avg. 28) fps -> playable
Unreal Tournament 3: 1920x1080, max: 32-63 (avg. 51) fps -> fluently playable
World in Conflict: 1920x1080, high: 19-103 (avg 30) -> playable

 

Just a question, scott, what version of vista did you use? I mean a 64bit or the 32 bit version?
Sorry, I didn't see the post of the Matrix 64 bit...

 

nice little spanish write up of the w90
http://translate.google.com/transla...0X2.html&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1

 

omg, if i want to become a betatester for asus. i´ll send them my cv, and not my money.

unfortunately i just requested an ro-nr. for my aw m17 and was willing to jump on the asus bandwagon.

 

D*** this notebook looks gorgeous. I'm glad I don't have the money right now But this summer when I'm in market for a new gaming/3D work notebook...

 

Turns out I don't have the right screws to put that second hard drive in. Will putting win7 on a new partition on the same drive conflict with vista? If not, I'll do that then.

And congratulations Scott for being able to enjoy the w90.

My status could be described as this:
Occasional lockups on bootup, requiring the battery to be removed.
Vista environment works fine, no problems out of games.
Games consistently crash with screen flickering and bsod's, yet strangely 3dmark and Bioshock run fine.

I agree with wiggin, asus should be emailing their customers who have filed problems with daily updates. I feel like I'm being ignored by them, not a good feeling.

 

thanks alot. just keep us up to date with your system so we know whats going on. also can you post screen shots of your game benchmarks if you can. i find it easyier to read. (it not you i just get confused see numbers and stuff.) if you can, post benches at full resolution and max settings. with and without aa/af. thanks.

no because they use the same kernel they will read perfectly. not like xp and vista. install win7 and let us know how everything is.

 

Speaking of not having problems;
I am glad that the few errors I've had aren't bad. There was a few lockups- once- that I can remember. Nothing after since. I am glad that ASUS has acknowledged an error on their part with GDDR5, and I think that ASUS is working on the problem, but I imagine it isn't easy getting ATi to comply with them, either.
As for benchmarks, those scores are pretty good. This thing will game, and it's a beast. Too bad someone will get mine, and I won't be able to enjoy it once 9.2+ hit, etc.
Enjoy them guys, those of us who have problems, like Striker and I think, it's that random DOS thing. I still believe it is more on the power settings than it is on the ATi drivers, but I can't offer any solid evidence, and for that I'm sorry.

 

bit-tech has a nice review up.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/laptops/2009/03/02/first-look-asus-w90-dual-hd4870-notebook/1

they do mention problems though with graphics drivers and turbo gear.
Interesting read. Finally we can say for sure there are two separate pcbs.

 

don't forget to install the chipset 1st before anything.

 

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/03/first-look-asus-w90-dual-hd4870-notebook/11.jpg

Well that says it all, two videocard PCB's with CF cable.

 

right, i'll install as few drivers as necessary, especially leaving out the ati driver. GParted is taking its sweet old time partitioning (hope it isn't blowing vista into oblivion). I'd say it'll be a few hours until i have some results, all depends on how fast I can pull some games from steam. Will report back later. Thanks for the help again.

 

Newegg is giving me problems and asus tech support cannot be found

 

Sad to see ASUS not living up to their name...here we are trying to fuel the recession and they're no where to be found lol.

 

nah, it was said a long time ago...
but gotta love high res pictures. great find!

got any more of these with out the paste on the gpu???

 

i hope thats not AS5 all on the gpu.

 

Somebody could contact Bit-tech and see about getting their x64 Mobility Catalyst drivers, apparently ATI delivered them a custom version designed for that notebook. The chances of it are slim, but hey, let them know how horribly your notebook is running and crashing and see if they'll release it.

 

Well thanks for the info packed update Mr Vague

What problems are you having with NewEgg?

Asus Tech Support can not be found? I found them. They are ignoring you? Not answering the phone? Told you they would respect you in the morning but never called back? You can't find their website? What do you mean?

 

Not my pictures, sry
Just copied the picture link from here http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/laptops/2009/03/02/first-look-asus-w90-dual-hd4870-notebook/1 , so there is no need to go through the pages.