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    *Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Jlbrightbill

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    As johnksss's image shows, it's clearly 2 PCBs.

    Somebody needs to post a GPU-Z screenshot.
     
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    I've been following this thread for quite some time. As an ASUS fan (a8js baby), i'm pretty amazed by this step up in technology...and pretty disappointed with all the issues early adopters are having. Anyway, thanks Striker and the rest of you guys for attempting to share the fix with all of us...your work is definitely appreciated. As for me, i am waiting for the 17inch w90 so i can have a tiny bit more portability. Keep up the good work!
     
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    Just remember, the 17" will not be smaller. It is the exact same size, just has more frame around the screen. So instead of (making up numbers here) 1" frame around the 18.4" screen, there will be 2.4" frame around the 17" screen.
     
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    Aeilerto Notebook Guru

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    In response to the questions about 3d mark; It gets to the loading screen and then does nothing, it isn't frozen, it just won't load, I have to crtl-alt-delete.

    The driver I put in is just the one on the ASUS disk.
     
  5. firebird34

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    First post!
    been following this thread for a while, so thanks for all the effort from the owners.

    got my w90 yesterday and was not surprised when it locked up on first boot. I used the f9 recovery and then it seemed stable. So I cleaned up vista and installed drivers and got ready to test!
    3dmark Vantage ran fine, scored 8343 marks on the performance settings. (i'll post a screenshot later)

    When I went to play Mass Effect, the screen started to flicker really bad (very frightening), bsod'd, and restarted. I've tried two more times and cannot get past the opening sequence and do not want to try again considering such a violent restart can't be healthy, so to speak.

    I'll be happy to provide more information, I want to find a solution too.

    Thanks again to Striker for the f9 recovery method, it at least got non-gaming apps working.
     
  6. bibsybob

    bibsybob Notebook Consultant

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    Flickering eh? Maybe my w90 wasn't broken and sending it in to repair/exchange was a waste of time... Which means that drivers are the issue, I would suppose.
     
  7. firebird34

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    I tried Mass Effect again and it did bsod. But this time i caught what it said.
    "device driver stuck in infinite loop"

    So I guess that's a pretty clear indication the driver is to blame.

    However, Bioshock ran relatively better. The fps stayed above 100 most of the time at all settings maxed. Yet there was some significant artifacting, with strange green blocks showing up occasionally and some 2-3 second stutters. I would think those were not heat related as the w90's cooling system has proved to be effective.

    Is there any way to disable one of the 4870 cards? I wonder if running in crossfire is only making these problems worse. Of course I would like that to be fixed, but I can live with one card for now if it means games will run.
     
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    Oh, looks like more people who own that notebook got problem...
    I'm pretty lucky not buying it here yet(as the only support they provide is global warranty, no other thing I suppose)...
    Or else, gonna got problem getting support...
    Anybody knows when Asus going to released it to ASEAN country?
     
  10. Jlbrightbill

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    Whatever pages you all keep linking to do not work for me at all to view your scores, it just links to my own ORB page.
     
  11. firebird34

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    Here is my 3dmark Vantage score

    http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=842646&resultType=19

    8343 marks

    Just an observation about the cooling. The 4870 in the very middle of the unit is ejecting VERY hot air compared to the one on the side. If you look at the bottom of the unit in some pictures, the placement of the venting slots do not match the location of the fan. I doubt that heat pipe is getting the cool air it needs...can't understand how that happened in the design process. Otherwise, the CPU runs very cool, definitely room to overclock past 3.2 GHz.
    If anyone has any insight about that one fan, please do share.
     
  12. Jlbrightbill

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    Your result is private firebird34.
     
  13. Aeilerto

    Aeilerto Notebook Guru

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    Ok, I updated to the newer 9.2 drivers, 3D mark still won't run, but now Company of Heroes is crashig during online games.

    Please help, :( .
     
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    Uh I'm pretty sure 9.2 drivers don't work still, you can try installing em but they wont actually install. Post a screenshot showing the device driver id.
     
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    when your installing these drivers...are you doing the "have disk method" or the install using the setup exe or install.exe file??
     
  16. Aeilerto

    Aeilerto Notebook Guru

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    I just pulled them from ATI's site and installed them, I didn't think they would work but they installed. This is on a 32-bit vista if it matters.

    I'll post screenshots if people want them.
     
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    we want it all Aeilerto...you never know who is reading and might be in a similar situation as yourself... and any real info is always welcome.
     
  18. bibsybob

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    I'm pretty sure you can't pull them from ATI's site and just install... If you go through the catalyst installation process, it'll only look to update the interface and other random stuff not the actual display driver. Go look into ur device manager or catalyst control to see if the actual driver is 9.2.
     
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    that's what i was thinking bob....that's why i asked about which way it was installed...

    it seems to take when you do the have disk method, but im not sure...since E sold his and i don't have my ati laptop here right now... i can't verify it.
     
  20. Jlbrightbill

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    My standard ATI installation method is uninstall driver, boot into safe mode, run Driver Sweeper, boot back into Windows, install new driver, and if prompted for reboot, reboot.
     
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    you guys would be mad at me...lol. i have like 10 drivers installed.
     
  22. Jlbrightbill

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    Can we get a GPU-Z screenshot?
     
  23. aral3005

    aral3005 Notebook Geek

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    Hi everyone..
    FYI..looks like Xoticpc already prepare Asus W90VP-A1 for sell...
    It is still pre-order and will be available in mid march...
    The specification is still as same as X1 but it has Intel Q9000 processor and can be configure with Q9100 and QX9300...
    And it is price at $2416...excluding discount...and Xoticpc offering free UPS ground shipping also...
    FYI,Xoticpc also have option for international shipping...
    If you plan to buy it in May and afterwards,you can also get student discount(maybe 7%)...
    This is the link here
     
  24. steakikan

    steakikan Notebook Consultant

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    I check that xoticpc
    The quad core still expensive though (~900 Q9100), and international shipping, what does that means? I wonder though have international warranty, the notebook can be repaired here or not (as what I asked the distributor, they won't sell it here),
    I hope that the rise in price here is not as much in Europe (anyway, Asus is a Taiwan company right)
    Maybe I will wait till June (the next computer exhibition)... hopes that all the lokcs-up has been solved by that time.
     
  25. Jlbrightbill

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    That's for 3870X2 though...
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    I kno I was just thinkin something else my bad. On the other hand these 9.2 are tricky drivers, has any one found out what it is that ati changed that made these just a little bit differnt?
     
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    hi,

    im thinking about replacing my m17 with this machine.

    the asus has 3 ram slots, but only double-channel and no tripple-chanel-ram?
    and only ddr2, no possibility for upgrade to ddr3? the x38 chipset should support ddr3 ram.

    what advantage does the x38 chipset offer over the pm45? both with 16/16 lanes on the xfire cards?
     
  28. E.B.E.

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    If the slots are DDR2 the DDR3 memory will never work, because it has a different pin layout.

    I have never heard of triple-channel memory but I've been confined to the laptop world for quite a few years now. In any case, you should know that dual channel RAM in notebooks does not offers much performance benefit according to benchmarks (and even less in real life).

    Don't know about the other questions.
     
  29. steakikan

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    I'm not sure, but suppose the only intel chipset that support tripple channel is only X58 (that's i7).
    Even if older chipset support DDr3 slot, they only support dual channel
    AMD also only Socket Am3 based that support tripple channel ddr3
    CMIIW
    Oh, one thing of using DDR3, it uses lower voltage compare to its predecessor DDr2 (I'm not sure about the voltage value) so energy usage are suppose to be lower (this one also not really sure)
     
  30. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    7%? That's very interesting. Their student discount has always been a discount solely on delivery price.
     
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    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Thread added to the ASUS Info Booth and to the Reviews&Owners' Lounges Index. Thanks!
     
  32. firebird34

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    The 3dmark site will not let me make the results public, so I took screenshots instead.

    No tweaking, all stock settings

    Vantage: 8343
    '06: 13444
     

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    jeepstercrazy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry About the links earlier guys. Here is a screenshot instead!
     

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    the 3dmark score shows "generic vga-card".

    i would have expected very much more, as a crossfire 2x 3870 with the same cpu gets 13123 pts.

    sure, that both cards are working?
     
  35. firebird34

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    jeepster, is overclocking the cpu with turbo gear the only extra thing you're doing to get that score?

    I was under the impression using Turbo Gear led to instability, so I haven't tried it yet.
     
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    I'm honestly not sure. Even though there are two 4870 cards in crossfire, the drivers think they are one 4870x2, so it only lists one graphics card. So I cannot really check each card individually. During bechmarking, the card on the far side of the unit exhausts what I would consider room temperature air, while the one in the middle becomes very hot. Not sure if that has to do with the odd fan placement I mentioned earlier or if that other card just is not working very hard or at all in the tests.
     
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    Considering I just scored 13461 in 3DM Vantage (1280x1024 , Performance) with my BFG GTX280... I'd say those 4870x2's are either not performing right, or only one of the GPU's is active. (I'm guessing the latter).
     
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    Darn...just realized my computer is scheduled for the 5th of march...I thought it was wednesday but its actually thursday. This is very upsetting!!! I guess that gives striker one extra day to figure the problems out ;)
     
  39. jeepstercrazy

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    The NewEgg spec now state GDDR5 for the video memory.
     
  40. Quicklite

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    Awesome, if its not a typo...
     
  41. bcool15

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    oh i would barely trust them as there hdd is 7200rpm according to newegg website but many people have reported it to be 5400rpm hdd (confusing) i requested info regarding tht from newegg they never replied been a week now
     
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    That would be a big typo if that. I checked Asus' website and they seemed to change the description bit. Available processors changed to a T9600 and a P8600 from having everything included between a P8400 and a T9600. Also, their GPU description from ATI Mobility™ Radeon® HD 4870 x2, 1024MB VRAM (GDDR3) to just ATI Mobility™ Radeon® HD 4870, 1024MB VRAM. Maybe someone would have to e-mail or contact Asus to see if they did upgrade them with GDDR5 memory.

    If they did, that would kinda suck for those who already purchased the W90 earlier
     
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    agreed....!!!
     
  44. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Ya it would be strange that they went out of there way to change the description unless it were true and the specs changed in the past week. Maybe there was problems with initial run of GDDR3 cards and thats why the sudden change . Striker did mention that they were working on DDR5 cards so it may have just came sooner then expected .
     
  45. firebird34

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    I'm more upset about the quantity of vram.

    Calling it a 4870x2 let them get away with saying there's 1 GB of vram, which is not true. Each card only has 512mb or vram, which to me is more disappointing than not having gddr5. Considering the 1920x1080 res, it'll be interesting to see if high texture mods, extreme AA, and AF will take a big hit on framerates.
     
  46. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Ya the VRAM descriptions are abit misleading thats for sure . Framerate wise by looking at some reviews of 4870 1gb vram cards vs the 512 versions there is a performance difference, though not that huge and they tested a few games ie Oblivion which throw around some massive textures .

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=5

    i think this review would provide a basic idea of the performance difference but obviously these are still desktop cards .
     
  47. firebird34

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    Well, supposing newegg is right and the cards are shipping with gddr5 now, I wonder what the best way would be to get the upgrade. Obviously, I don't want to be cheated out of faster memory just for being an early adopter. I mean, it's only been a little more than a week, specs shouldn't change THAT fast.

    I guess when newegg is back in stock and people start receiving these "new" cards, then we'll know for sure.
     
  48. TRICH911

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    How can I tell if mine is gddr5 or 3?

    oh, and I just got my first lockup and windows problm center says....
    Check for ATI Graphics Driver updates

    This problem was caused by ATI Graphics Driver, which was created by ATI Technologies, Inc.. There is no solution for this problem at this time.

    Troubleshooting

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    A driver update, if available, might prevent this problem from recurring.

    sigh.....
     
  49. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    download GPU-Z
     
  50. TRICH911

    TRICH911 Notebook Consultant

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    ok, i will do that now and post after
     
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