G1S 8600M GT vs F3SV-B1 8600M GS Benchmark

Low FPS is the second number.

 

ken I mite buy the Asus F3SV-B1 from you guys. I just want to know what the 3Dmarks are if it had 4 gigs of ram and a 120 gig 7200 rpm HD. (thats what i mite buy)

Thanks

 

one more thing, is there any way to buy the G1s cheaper? (with 4 gigs of ram.) because it's a little over my price range. (my price range being under $2000.)

 

Unless you're using Vista X64 forget 4 gigs of ram. Vista can't detect 4 gigs and there are hardly any applications that will use those 4 gigs.

 

i thought more then 4 gigs was 64 bit. not 2 or 3 gigs. Vista will run "ok" with 2 gigs. i still think 4 gigs of ram will make it better.

 

Supposedly the most you can have is 3.5 gigs if you have 4 gigs of ram. Just google "vista 4 gigs" and you'll get an explanation. There were some board members who got their G1s with 3 gigs of ram so I'm sure they can tell you if it was worth it.

 

vista 32 bit only sees around 3.5gigs of ram cuz it uses the rest of the memory address space to address devices and such. if you get the 64bit vista, it should see all 4 gigs. but i hear the drivers for the 64bit vista are not so great, and in any case, you wont see that much of a performance gain from 2gig->4gig.

 

thanks for the help. the 8600 GS has shard memory so i thought having as much memory as possible was good. if i have 2 gigs it barrows around 765 MB leving only 1.25 gig left for ram and with vista thats not allot.

 

(sorry i did not finish my sentence) ... so having 3 gigs is better. the G1s with 3 gigs ram + tax is $2094 just around my price range.

O and thanks for the help 70moyo and korg! =)

 

I'm interested in the Asus F3SV (the G1S is a bit out of my price range)

I'm curious how the screen is in quality compared to stuff like Macs and Sony vaio (I know off topic, maybe I should try in a different thread..)

 

he said that GeForce 8600m GT 256mb uses plus 767MB from our memory ram shared, so 2 Gigs - 767mb of (shared video memory) = 1,233 Gigs so our real memory ram is not 2GB, its 1,233GB,
so that means Vista will use a lot of Ram memory, leaving us with just a few amount of ram for actually use in other stuff (like Multimedia while gaming)
so does it worth get 3Gigs Ram or the 2Gigs can take care of all this work ?

^^

 

The 8600mGT can use that much memory, but it doesn't need to. If you're worried about ram, just turn down the amount of shared memory it can access. 300-400mb should be plenty of total VRAM for the 8600mGT.

 

I can't find whether SLI works for Vista anywhere..can anyone confirm if Vista released a quickfix for SLI yet? Last info I heard 2 months ago was that SLI was not supported.

 

Can someone please post a screenshot of the F3SV-B1 8600M GS in BF2 and Half Life and see the fps please?

 

G1S with USB HDTV Tuner, watch at 1680X1050 the screen capture program still capture at 1920X1080, click to see the full size image:

 

That looks awesome!

 

no vista doesnt support SLI at the moment from what i've heard.

 

Ken, a 3dmark06 score of 2032 for the F3SV-B1 means it's graphically weaker than the old A8Js?

 

Guys, 32-bit systems "See" all 4 GB of RAM. They only allocate 3 GB per program at any time, so for games and design and such, there are only 3 GB of RAM effectively, but if you have two or three applications open, each one can use up to three, so the more programs you have open the more you will notice 4 GB. HOWEVER, 2 GB is currently enough to handle any and all of your performance needs, 3GB is much more than enough and 4GB is simply wasteful.

 

Either that, or we will see lot's of improvements with new drivers.

 

XPS 7900gs (256mb) or 8600m GT (512mb)

this has probably been answered already but can someone tell me which would be better for keeping future proof. Im not entirly bothered about dx10 games but if they have better performance on a 8600m gt let me know. I also plan on getting crysis so which would offer a better experience. And does the 8600m GT really perform much better overclocked? how big a difference? Thanks for any replies. My laptop future depends on it!

heres the link for the 8600m GT lap http://www.rockdirect.com/viewNotebook.php?pName=PEGASUS%20670

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The 8600mGT and the 7900GS have very similar amounts of raw power. However, as time goes on you'll see the 8600mGT perform better in games that have DX10 optimized code. Therefore the 8600mGT is the better option for future-proofing your laptop. As for overclocking, yes the 8600mGT performs much better overclocked, say somewhere around an additional 15fps in a game, depending on settings and everything of course. Possibly the difference between 20fps and 35fps on new games, like Crysis.

 

wow sounds good thanks, crysis fps estimates r dissapointing but never mind

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Also, how much overclocking would i be able to do if i dont have a cooler and i dont want my laptop 2 blow up? i usually play about 1hour a day

 

Is there someone who could bench Armed Assault on the G1s or G2s ?
I'd like to see how the 8600m GT handles it ... Thx

 

But on the other hand, the 8600M GT is a bit bandwith starved compared to the go7900GS (128 bit vs 256 bit), leading to lower performance, so at higher resolutions, it will fall back (for now). If you can wait for a while and want more performance, wait for 8700M or 8800M.

 

how many 3Dmarks dose Halo2 PC need in order to run well? will it run on the F3SV-B1?

 

I wouldn't call it "bandwith-starved." As far as I can tell, the 8600mGT appears to max out the 128-bit bandwith, but it doesn't appear to be limited too much by the bandwith. It's true that it might be able to take advantage of the 512mb GDDR3 better with a 256-bit bus, but then it wouldn't be able to fit into a 15.4" screen with 2-3 hours of battery life, would it?

 

WHY is that G1s like an INCH bigger than the F3... God...

 

OT question:
Is the SPDIF output optical on the G1S?

If i'm gonna buy a laptop it's absolutely necessary that it comes with an optical SPDIF output, so I can utilize 5.1 through my receiver.

 

how much can we overclock the 8600m gt ? i mean at a very safe area, to it couldn´t burn or short its life

 

I have seen up to 25 percent, it is very overclockable.

 

nice, im waiting 4 Gentech to review G2S and BF FPS on high and low def and AAx8 and 0xAA
=D

 

Hence the "a bit" before it. But true.

 

Sorry for the delay, here is BF2 screenshot with 3GB of RAM:

F3SV-B1
CPU: T7500
RAM: 3GB
HD 160GB 5400RPM
Stock Driver no overclock:



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Not bad with 3GB of RAM.

 

Anybody tossed BF2142 at this card yet with high settings for everything and 2xAA this is what I run (1920x1080) on my desktop, its an older desktop that I built 2 years ago so I wouldnt be supprised to see a brand new notebook get similar performance.

If it can kick out the same fps that would be awsome.

I could probably go off 3dmark scores for the most part but thats not 100%

 

I will definitely have the 3 GB and 7200 RPM HDD

 

FEAR SP DEMO on G1S:

CPU T7500
2GB RAM
160GB SATA 5400 on eSATA
Stock Driver no overclock:





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1400X1050










1024X768

 

Ken doesnt fear have a built in performance test if I recall correctly??

Can you run that and see what scores you get? That would be good info.

 

I am not sure if the DEMO version has built in performance test, let me check right now.

Update:
The DEMO version does not have built in performance test.

 

That was a maybe anyways I cant recall if full version did or not. I think it does but havnt played in so long that I cant remember.

I'll check when I get home.

Infact that would be a good XP vs Vista x64 test to run since I know it will be identical and see if my score varies.

 

Do you know if there is any place to download Crysis demo? looks like it's a MUST HAVE game.

 

Are there any benchmarks, avg FPS, on the F3Sv, for FEAR, maxed out?

 

just wrote it in another thread: my biggest problem about those in-game-benchmarks is that i can never really tell if the results are decent or crap. I'm not the casual BF2, CS:S - player that i have all my FPS using the according resolution in mind.

It would be perfect if anyone could set up a standard for this, and that we've got the results from several laptops we can compare to each other (Fraps would be great for that).

 

Hey Ken, would you be so kind as to bench Armed Assault (demo ?) with the G1S ?

 

Downloading demo right now, will post result tomorrow.

 

Yes I'll do it tomorrow.

 

@Those people requesting benches of different games: Can you please post similar results you can compare them to?

@gentech: thanks for the fabulous job, i would suggest you for a special board-rank

 

Thanks it's very nice of you

 

8600M GT 128MB smiler to the 8600 GS 256MB or is it better?