Asus ROG GL702ZC owners lounge

2933 mhz according to : https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5zuho7/gaming_on_the_ryzen_r7_1700_rammemory_speed/

Samsung B-dies.

 

Looks like he's got 2133 ram overclocked to 2933, i guess it means that the 1700 can make use of that speed. Have no idea what the BIOS is like on this thing, just got the machine (plus i'm a n00b and haven't a clue about any of this, if i'm honest lol)

 

Keep in mind that's on a desktop. You can't expect as good results due to laptop motherboard tracing. Ofc BIOS and strength of IMC are also factors.

 

So weird then, no idea how possible to make bubble via screwing. Plus panel consist of plastic, strange that I can easily do such thing, that bubble is smooth like it was here from start. Weird.
About ROG center, u should see 2000 mhz under load or if u enabled max. perf. on gpu. In idle 300-500.

About RAM, different sticks maybe not bad idea, but last times I prefer KITs, less problems, easy OC atleast on desktop(our laptop don't have such option). Also, for me, 2400 cl15 in dual channel more than enough.

 

Hello, how can you ENABLED MAX PERFORMANCE GPU ? From Bios or ... ?

Thank you.

 

In AMD Radeon Drivers if i remember right.

 

Did you buy an additional stick to populate the empty one our laptop comes with? Did it make much difference at the same 2400 speed? Also, my 1st laptop I had to return because of a bad speaker, it too came with a bubble on the plastic. It lined up perfectly with a screw hole on the opposite side. I wasn't sure if it was suppose to be there until I received my replacement. It wasn't. BTW I tried "overclocking" the CPU to 3650 on all cores. Boy did it get hot! About 91c, the hottest it has EVER gotten. I think I can dial back on the voltage - its currently 1.2625 - a little more. Anyway, I've discovered there is no real need to overclock these chips. It has handled everything I've thrown at it. Overclocking was just for S & Gs - ****s and giggles.

 

So beautiful....

 

Sweet.

I'd love to do the same thing. How much did it all cost. both SSDs and the Crucial RAM sticks. I have an M.2 EVO 850 512 GB in my old FX-8800P/R9 M385X Lenovo Y700. Was it difficult to access?

 

I got all of it from Micro Center...
Crucial Ram: 309.99
970Pro: 204.99
870evo: 224.99

Not difficult to access at all. I like using a guitar pick to run around the edges to unseat the bottom cover from the laptop.
You will have to remove the heat sink to replace the RAM though. So its well worth upgrading your thermal paste while your at it.
For removing the heat sink, wiggle and pull and it will go. this made me very nervous the first time i pulled it off.

 

Just undervolting using Ryzen Master for this first time. Cinebench Scores reflect a change but Ryzen Master doesn't seem to register a change - look at Profile 1 (which I saved and applied), then look at Current. which shows a very low base clock (1.55) and the voltage doesn't reflect the changes set in Profile 1

Pictures here - https://imgur.com/a/YtcDwr9

 

My most recent cinebench was a 1581 on creator mode at 3.6-3.65ghz - 1.1875volts.

I'm actually running a cam program right now that's pushing the cpu pretty well on all cores 80%, holding 80c with 42% fan curve. I even have the laptop propped up on some 1/2“ blocks to increase air flow underneath. I think I'm going to have to liquid metal this thing to get Temps a bit lower. A fan base would probably be a good thing too. I'm holding off on that for prime day..

 

Try doubling or tripling up on the height of the back - 2x-3x higher than the front. This starts convective cooling, drawing air from front to back, which can increase air flow volume and transfer rate of heat to air over a level front to back stance.

If you use an external keyboard / mouse, you have more flexibility to place the laptop further from you, and if you have an external monitor you can place the laptop to the side - venting hot exhaust off the desk into free space, instead of into a corner or wall behind the laptop where the hot air will pool and reflect back under the laptop to get sucked into the intake vents.

If your desk is up against a wall, pull it away an inch or two from the wall to allow air currents from lower cooler air to push up the hot air exhaust if you can't vent into free space.

If you have a desk fan, point it across the laptop diagonally to create an air flow over and under the laptop enhancing the venting of hot exhaust as well.

 

Ya so typically, and Ive done this with my MSI's as well, I only put the back on the 1/2" stands. I'm probably 4" off a back wall on either machine.. Im def in line to do get a base fan set up for either. I Have contemplated a new Monitor setup, like a triple, that I could use one for a laptop stand. I'm being picky about this idea as I'd like to find a laptop stand that wouldn't impede the airflow underneath or I could possibly mount a fan to as well..

I need to upgrade my keyboard status as well, especially running two laptops, My logitech flow just decided to quit connecting to both my computers so Im having to manually switch on my MX Master 2 mouse.. I will likely buy a logitech Craft if I can get the bugs with flow ironed out. I have a K350 but i think my unified dongle took a hit when traveling recently...

IDK maybe the stars are aligning to do some ergonomic upgrades. I will be upgrading to windows 10 pro for work stations in the next week or two, its actually a gift from my parents they let me pick... like 'yaaaaa how about just a $300 software and Ill be plenty content' lol

 

You could try this. It worked beautifully for me with an older, hotter laptop. 1st, get an old, fairly deep, metal broiler pan, insert two 'blue ice' bricks side by side, then but the broiler pan cover on. set laptop on top and temps drop like 8c. it really works.

 

thx. Did the dual channel RAM make a difference - at the same speed - as our single channel? If 2400 is the fastest RAM we can run, then buying an addition 16GB stick makes the most sense. With 32 GBs I'll then adopt StoreMI with RAM cache.

 

In complete Honesty, Im not sure what performance improvement I have seen, if any. I will say my 2400mhz scale on the ROG center is no longer maxed... maybe this is hinting for some overclock headroom? But ultimately I just needed more ram per one of my programs that utilizes the space on occasion.

Yaaaaa... that's not happening at my office LOL I'll come up with something.. Im leaning into what liquid metal has the potential of in my application. I needed to take a step back when I contemplated drilling a 4" hole in my office desk to mount a fan to! lol!

I've kinda considered developing a water cooling system. Mini Pump, and I can 3d metal print a new heat sync but Im not that into the idea to move on it honestly

 

Sweet, yup, Linus did something like that - except with direct water to case heat transfer - to try to cool a Macbook enough to stop thermal throttling:

Water Cooling the Macbook 2015 - Increased performance or dead Macbook!?


When I wrote the last post I was also thinking of those fast defrosting trays that are like a giant heat plate for absorbing and dissipating heat. I've seen thicker heavier duty ones, but this might work too:

Upgraded Defrosting Tray, Gigabit Thawing Plate Defrosting Board Quick Defrost Meat or Cooling Coffee Kitchen Cooling Tools Without Electricity, Microwave, Frozen Foods Quickly Health Thawing Plate
https://www.amazon.com/Defrosting-Gigabit-Thawing-Electricity-Microwave/dp/B0792X46F3/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1531265510&sr=8-4-spons&keywords=cooling+tray&th=1

And, then there are the clip on powered exhaust assist fans, which I used for years - no need recently, but one on each side could help assist enough to make it worth while. There are a number of makes, styles, and sizes that can be made to fit your need, I've used Opolar before:

Beast cooling solution for your gaming laptop? - Opolar LC05 Laptop Cooler Review

 

I don't think anyone is sticking their machines in a tray of water, however a aluminum heat sync base plate that is either filled with a coolant or circulating fluid could be a great idea as a passive cooling solution.
The sucker exhaust fans... We fall on the short end of that stick being a thick laptop and no side venting..

The only other area of improvement I could creatively consider is to actually add more intake ventilation on the bottom case cover. Looking at all other notebooks, theirs a lot of potential for air to come in, I feel it's very minimal with the 702. This is why I believe the preferred method at this point is to add a base fan pad...

One Amazon reviewer as well as myself added tape between the fan and radiator to prevent direct recirculating heat.

Give it a few more months and I might build a die that I could heat and burn a new set of holes through the cover.

My goal at this point is to stay sub 70-75 on auto. I'm primarily fan boosting 20-50% to achieve that currently.

 

Yeah, sometimes a cooling pad added air flow helps, but usually the main part of the benefit is raising the rear higher than the front for convective cooling, and decoupling the desk from the laptop heat exchange.

The fan helps most to cool the case so if you have an external metal case that conducts well it can pull down the internal temperatures a bit too.

Usually the air volume from the laptop stand is too low to push more air into the vents - it takes quite a bit of pressure to overcome the "back pressure" and get more air into the interior of the laptop.

This one works well for me, and I keep it near maximum vertical position, with external keyboard / trackpad - wireless. It also helps reduce the space taken up by the laptop on the desk.

Cooler Master NotePal Ergostand III
http://www.coolermaster.com/mobile/notepal-all-notepals/ergostand-III/
https://www.amazon.com/COOLER-MASTER-NOTEPAL-ERGOSTAND-FAN-SPEED/dp/B00PC2X1WU
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-NotePal-ErgoStand-III/dp/B00MY3S2OM

 

How about an exhaust vent? change the direction of the air instead of your computer... Just CAD'd these up myself. I can send ya the file if you have a printer...

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2998838

 

If there were room behind the laptop you could put a deflective object on edge angled to redirect the exhaust air to the sides - but if you only have 4 inches between the laptop exhaust and the wall, these redirect vents would be a good alternative, but one that needs tuning for optimal results.

The problem with the exhaust redirects is the addedpressure that the exhaust fan would have to push the air vertical, transitioning in a short space as the hot exhaust exits the laptop.

I am not sure if a longer straight section would help or not, making the exhaust vent redirect flare wider as soon as it leaves the narrow exhaust might help reduce the added pressure against the exhaust fans, tuning this can help it work optimally. Reducing the back pressure while still accomplishing the redirect of the air vertically - or maybe redirec to the sides instead to avoid the exhaust falling back onto the laptop - at low fan speeds the vertical redirect might only serve to stack the hot air behind the laptop.

I've used books and cut sheets of wood to split the exhaust air to the sides before when stuck against a wall, perhaps look around for a way to do that, using the existing exhaust venting.

 

I've managed to mod BIOS 303 to include updated microcode, confirmed working. Now to figure out the AGESA stuff...

 

Well a couple things to note.. In regards to thermal dynamics first, while temp dynsmics says air moves from hot area to cold, heat also rises.. So directing upwards is the prime ideale scenario.. I can test air flow rates in a few weeks to see if my ducts will support or worse case, turbulate any ducted air flow based on computer simulations with known air flow test.

The reason hot air sometimes recirculation happens back to intake vents is because of vacuum from the intake being a not far distance away from the exhaust... Thus directing the exhaust air flow up and away should dramatically reduce the potential of recirculating hot air and why I would not direct to the side. Even the previous mention side mounted exhaust fans do OK because they push the hot air away.. Theirs a good amount of science behind airflow.. Luckily I have all the software and tools required to analyze cause an effect.
The ducts I have modeled have less restricted flow than the radiator of the air cooling in the laptop so I have 0 doubt in their assumed abilities.

 

Sounds good, the overall value is in the CPU / GPU temperatures too, it will be easy to do a test run with the exhausts open, and then one with the vents installed, and see how it affects the CPU / GPU temperatures in an A=>B test.

Looks like a fun project, and I look forward to seeing your results, maybe you can even turn it into a "product", or at least a free 3d model for others to use.

Making a variety of vent horn's would be a good custom business fitting various directional pointing vents for laptops.

Thank you for sharing.

 

Just ran cinebench and the laptop was only using 1 core, then turn it off and on again and all cores were working. Is this anything i should be worried about?

 

I'll probably create a new thread when I get down to the nitty-gritty testing but you're right the proof is in the pudding... Unfortunately my personal SLA printer is down and 6he only other printer I have access to is 1-1.2million dollar hybrid metal dmls... I'd much rather prototype in plastic obviously lol Stay tuned for a thread if things work out, otherwise the models are posted via open source if you have a friend with a printer. I'm happy to make any design changes if needed.

 

Just curious, will these BIOS mods allow the 702 to use faster ram (faster than 2666mhz)?

 

Hello.

Can someone help me ? When I update my radeon driver to 18.7.1, gpu memory stuck at 2000mhz. Then I tried 18.5.1 driver. In 18.5.1 driver It says Freesync isn't supported. But memory gpu is normal in 18.5.1. And 18.7.1 supports Freesync. How can i solve this problem ? I want to use 18.5.1 and freesync.

 

I've fixed it by downgraded to v17.7

 

Ty.

Anyone playing csgo with this system ? how many fps do you get ?

 

FYI, it's an older post from May, but Microcenter still has the sale price on their website and some stores have them in stock:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/481879/ROG_Strix_GL702ZC-WB74_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

Asus ROG Strix GL702ZC (AMD Ryzen) laptop - $1,399 at MicroCenter
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...amd-ryzen-laptop-1-399-at-microcenter.816973/

 

Does anyone know how many M.2 slots are on/in our laptop? I have a spare 512 EVO 850.

 

I still think, for the price I paid, $1500.00, I got a hell of a deal. I really think I got my money's worth!

 

One, just one

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My 702 has got the habit, after the screen goes to sleep, of not coming back on when I attempt to awaken it. The power is running and the fans actually start to run high (the computer itself is obviously on), but the screen doesn't come on and I have to power it off manually. Only solution at the moment is changing sleep setting to off. Is this a windows thing? (in fact my desktop's fans run really loud when i awaken it from sleep, but at least there the screen comes on - maybe a software driver is interfering with the sleep mode?). Anyone experienced similar or have any ideas what this might be?

 

Usually that's down to a chipset driver, so you might check if Asus has updates (for the BIOS too) that can help with that. Otherwise report it to Asus, as it shouldn't be doing that.

 

Thanks, will look into it.

 

Damn...

 

I agree. There's this - https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Dual-NGFF-SATA-Adapter/dp/B018AOZ9QM - or similar that you can use if you don't mind giving up the 2.5 drive bay..

 

I, for one, don't have this issue. Do you have Hibernate on?

 

I sorted it out. Someone on reddit suggest I make a few adjustments and it worked. Thank god no RMA

 

Well it's better to share that info so others can use them in case of similar issues

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This is true, my bad.


Fix for screen not posting and fans ramping up after going to sleep

Make sure GPU drivers are up to date

Then if problem still persists, I was recommended the following steps, which worked for me:

"Settings - Accounts - Sign-in - Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart = OFF

Power options - Choose what the power buttons do - Fast startup = OFF

Other than that, check your power / fast-boot related options in your BIOS.

If none helps, it's a hardware quirk, and you should ask Asus for support."

Hope this helps

 

As already said:

Turning off Hibernate disables Fast Startup too, and has the benefit of removing the hidden hiberfil.sys file from C:\ which can be as large as 64GB - if you had that much RAM.

Start a cmd window As Administrator:

powercfg /h off

to turn hibernate back on:

powercfg /h on

Reboot after each hibernate setting is recommended.

I also disable VM or pagefile on all devices, if there is enough memory and your applications are ok with no pagefile - some like it and complain if there isn't one. If that happens I usually set up a 1GB (or 800MB) sized pagefile on the fastest drive, even an SSD is ok.

I tend to disable as many system features as possible.

 

hi
i Bought the gl702zc 2days ago and i have a problem. i use it for vray rendering which is a cpu based renderer. i started the rendering and after about 15 minutes it reached 95 degree celsius and after about 2 hours it turned off.
I start it again, tempreture rises up to 95 degree and the fans did not work harder to keep it cool and it turns off again after 3 or 4 hours of full cpu load.
i live in iran and there is no proper warranty service, so i have to send it to a repairing company which will have no clue about the issue. so i have to sort it out by myself.
has anyone run in to the same problem?

 

I also use it for V-Ray, and haven't experienced your problem, unless I play around with overclocking.
This laptop reaches 95 degrees and holds it there cranking up and down the fans to not thermal throttle, at the default settings and running latest bios update 303.
My longest render was 15 hours but the room temperature was around 20 degrees. However if I adjust the slider in asus gaming center to boost the fans to 30-40 degrees the fans start to crack up holding my cpu at 74-80 degrees depending on the room temperature, and I could see that after 5 hours of render time there was no change.
I suggest you find a way to get it looked at because the laptop should close at around 100 degrees not at 95, which is the absolute limit asus stopped the cpu temp for passing to any means.
The cpu fans are a bit lazy because that's how asus intended, however they did provide you with the tools necessary to slight tune it to your needs.
If you can't find a way to get it checked up there are a few ways to overcome this issue, the first would be to adjust the fan booster slider, and the second is to lift the laptop a bit o the back to allow for more air flow, and last you could undervilt the cpu which will reduce the temps by about 5 degrees.

By the way vray is not only cpu based renderer, expecially with the 3.6 version where hybrid re dering on the cpu and gpu will lower the rendering times by about 30-40%, depending on the scene

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thanks for your reply.
i just got my laptop from service company. they reset and update the windows and bios(303)
now i want to do a stress test and see if it is fixed or not.
do you have any suggestion for stress testing?

 

Well I struggled with heat as well today...
Little prenote, I actually did a smoke air circulation test earlier this week. The laptop is trying to pull cool air from the back side. A supprizing amount actually .. I didn't find any particular sitting position that helped with this honestly ..

Which brings me to today.. A couple of times I nearly didn't notice but I was hitting 90+ degrees... I adjust myself off the wall a bit, helped a little.. But I'm running a process right now that is pegging the cpu at 100% for the last.... 30...45min... It got hot again.. So my only win right now is a couple of books behind my computer redirecting the air.. At 100% load and 40% fan it's running at 70-75c... At 3.5ghz(oc)


Luckily for me as well, I bought a new 3d printer yesterday should be here friday. Outside of a test print, I will be printing my designed exhaust vents. It seems like redirection maybe our only hope.

Edit: Decided to go balls to the wall on this issue now. Bought a few things on Amazon before I left the office...
Laptop Cooling pad(deep cool n9.. Not very reviewed but i have my reasons, but if it doesn't give any significant changes, I am building something myself)
Liquid metal... Yup. Time to void warranties.

I have 2 other ideal things to do, but I'm just going to attack this in a few steps..