Asus N50 Owners/Buyers Thread

go to nvidia's site to get the video driver, the one in windows update is a little too old

 

my touchpad and finger print are not working at all...

 

well.. were going to need a little more info then that.... If you go into "devices and printers" does it see the finger print reader. If it does what I want you to do is go to "device manager" and find the device for the reader. Then right-click on it and go into properties. Next go one tab over and uninstall the device completely!!!!! Then after that go to http://www.upek.com/support/downloads/windows7/learnmorew7.asp and download the version for the os that you have. then install it. the fingerprint reader should now work.....(follow these directions and it WILL work)

now for your touchpad... What is exactly not working. can you move the mouse around with it? are the buttons for left/right click not working? is the scroll bar not working? more info plz!

 

I only needed to go do "Windows Update" and download the UPEK Fingerprint driver, and i didn't need to load any further software, as Windows 7 has it's own Biometric software included for login etc..

But make sure you are doing as i said which is "Optional Updates, under "Windows Update" What drivers do you see when you do this?

The touchpad should work just as a standard mouse, well it does for myself. I have a Vn model, but it shouldn't make much difference.

 

i have solve it with the fingerprint.in vista works but the touchpad is not working .the buttons and the surface for mouse.are not working.and in device manager si not visible.form bios is active.i have trie form win xp vista and 7 .nothing.i have asus n50vc fp022. with t5800 proc. and i think i have no tuner .in the box was no antenna .and nothing in that anenna hole.What to do with the touchpad? i have tried to install syanptics driver. it founds somehting i click finish but nothing.it is like it isn't exists.another program prom synaptics .says taht is not driver or touchpad found..

 

did the touchpad ever work on the fresh install if 7??

 

touchpad never worked.....

 

any of you guys know how i can get my webcam to work with tiny chat?

I have reinstalled flash and shockwave player, tried a different browser.

I'm pretty sure it is the Asus Life Frame software that is causing it not to work. Anybody know what i should do?


Also i'm guessing alot of you deleted the asus lifefram software?

I cant even get my cam to work with windows movie maker.

 

Do you have virtualcam installed...that might be your issue... thats the driver that shares the cam with other apps

 

yes I have Asus virual cam.

So should I delete it or can I make it work?

I mean I really dont mind the Asus web cam software but it would be nice if i could also use my cam for tinychat.com and movie maker.



Thanks for the quick response Tex!



Edit- i was poking around virtual cam and i really cant do anything with it. Open to suggestions.

2nd Edit- Got it to work! by unchecking the cam tab in virtual cam. thanks!

 

someone to help me? the touchpad is not working and in device manager is not visible...

 

CVBN, I'd try phoning Asus customer service and if they cant fix it over the phone send it in for repair.

 

did your touchpad work before you installed 7?? if it did you might have turned it off via one of the fn keys

 

Hey guys, an update on my fried GPU situation. I sent it out a second time on September 15th, and got it back on the 22nd. IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't overclock as high on this new one, but I don't care.

 

um...dont overclock it

 

good stuff Avanish

 

Yeah. You hear horror stories about Asus' customer service all the time, but they have some of the best service I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing.

 

That is nice to hear Avanish. Apparently, according to the place I bought my laptop there is a Asus service centre close to where I live.

 

Nice, so they replaced it, hopefully they have put 9650m DDR3 in by mistake

 

I would agree, especially if the previous GPU died due to your overclocking...

 

Yeah I'm not going to have it permanently overclocked like I had it before. This GPU is still DDR2. The old one died because I replaced the thermal paste but forgot to make sure that the system was being cooled properly. It obviously wasn't.

 

Hey dude, I wana do a slight safe overclock of my 9650M GT ( same as your's ), by witch I mean overclocking only core and shader and leaving memory clock at 400 ( since we cannot determinate it's temp and it's most likely to fry or deteriorate with time ) - what values of core and shaders would be considered "very safe" by what you have experienced with your own 9650M GT? I know every GPU is different even from the same line of model, but suerly there is a safe OC span in every GPU model group - currently I get 72-73 C in total stress ( over 1 h gaming at least ) - am I right that values up to 80 C are totally safe for GPU? and only by gowing 85 C and higher makes the GPU "wear out" faster?

Oh and what OC program would you advise?

 

The CPU and GPU share the same heat sink right? Something to consider if you plan on getting one chip hotter... the other will probably go up as well. The case temperature is something to consider too, though it probably won't be affected as much.

 

I got my BlueTooth working, 3 months after finally thinking that they left the hardware out... LOL!

Bluetooth support service

...just wont stay on but when you force it too bluetooth works! Dah, that's Vista for ya...

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Just regged my extended warranty to 3 years @ 89 days, phew (last day)!

 

i just bought burning crusade and wrath of the lich king with a time card. I think i just signed my life away, again.

 

guys i got a question

when i fill up one part of the hard drive and need to start using the other one does it make things complicated or is it easy to do?

my 139 gig partition s almost full so i was wondering

 

Easy, you just refer to drive D: instead of drive C:

But it is better to evenly spread files over both partitions with at least 20% free space on each partition or you will experience a huge drop in performance overall.

 

Interesting, thanks!

 

just keep the disks Defragmented and you should be fine

 

Or just use ext3 as your filesystem, and you don't have to worry about fragmentation.

 

can you do that in windows 7?

 

hello i have a problem with my drivers on my asus n50 vc with windows 7.my image on the webcam is turned upside down .in vista worked well.what should i do?pelase help me

 

well your going to have to take apart the laptop to get to the webcam...then you have to unscrew it and turn it right side up.......

just kidding.... it seems you don't have the webcam driver installed correctly..

 

windows 7 installed the driver... so what should i do?

 

ok back out the driver through device manager. Then go find the correct driver for your webcam on asus driver page there are 2 types of webcams you could have. then depending on your cam just install it and then it should be rightside up

 

n50vn arrived as replacement to the G1S ASUS couldnt fix 23/10/09 at 3.45pm at 3.30am 24/10/09 less than 12 hrs from recieving unit blue screen and crashed then failing to charge and screen does not initiate on startup, very dissapointed after months and months of waiting already to be shipped a faulty replacement unit. Tried calling ASUS and guess what they dont work on Saturday. Any ideas what would cause this, no longer boots up just some fan and hd noise, the blue lights come on but thats it, also when plugged into the mains charger no longer shows as charging on the orange lights at the front left hand side.

 

well first of all why did they send you a worse laptop as a replacement????

Maybe they didn't plug the monitor ribbon cable in all the way or it became loose?

 

Hey everyone, I did small OC to my N50's 9650m GT, I gained 500 more pts in 3dmark06 ( jump from 4600 pts with no OC ) and now I get over 5100.
I decided that I won't push my card to it's safe limit, but instead OC it just a bit to gain some more fps and cause no danger to the card.

My OC clocks are : 650 core, 450 memory, 1550 shader.
I used Nvidia system tools to do the OC

Below I post the screenshot with 3dmark06 result :

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5847/oc9650mgt.jpg

 

Regarding your overclock, try running your GFX card memory up to 500, I found that 650/500/1550 was still pretty safe and cool. Especially good as the memory in the 9650 is ddr2.

I used the OCCT tool to test it. Run the "GPU: OCCT" test with the settings as:

Test type : infinite
Resolution: 800*600 @ 60
FullScreen: Unchecked
Error Check: Checked

once you have it running you can then raise the speed settings in nVidia system tools while it is running and get pretty much instant feedback regarding the limits of the GFX card. Ie. errors will start to show up.

With these settings I peak tempwise at about 77 deg. At stock speeds running OCCT I hit about 71 deg.

This is running Driver 186.81 in windows 7, and of course when not running a high GFX demand app the speeds auto drop down to GPU/MEM 400/400 Idle temp at 53 deg. The current speeds can be viewed by using GPU-Z in the Sensors Tab.

I found a real speed bump using Badaboom at these settings as well.

You cant really damage the card as the voltages set in the bios are quite conservative, you can set it so high that it wont work right at those limited voltages, but temps will never get close to "smoke level".

Rock On

 

Oh and one more thing, I noticed that the ASUS N61 is now shipping with Windows 7, as it is practically the same Laptop as the N50 there are a couple of extra apps and tools available and all drivers are available for Win7-64 there:

There is a nifty Fast Boot utility that allows you to select which components and services you want to delay loading at boot.

The realtek sound driver is newer and has "SRS", whatever that is.

There is a cool-o-rama ControlDeck that has a three-D control interface for such things as screen brightness, volume etc.

SmartLogin for win7

A newer Wireless console 3

The latest ExpressGate 1.2.13

And all the ATK drivers are there for Win7-64. Even though the N61 doesn't seem to have an Ionizer those ATK drivers still turn it on ond off on the N50.

 

Hey man thx 4 the tip, however isn't 500 on memory too high for it's safety? I read a lot that memory on GPU is easier to burn

 

Well, when I ran the nVidia system tools on this same laptop in XP-32, there was an option to Find Optimum Values, or something like that. (this option is not available in vista or Win7).

The optimum values that the tool found were about 640/490/1500 or there abouts. I cant remember exactly, and am still trying to get the laptop to boot to the second (XP) partition after installing 7. This is nVidias own tool, which is usually quite conservative.

I just base my level of "safeiness" on temps mostly and errors secondly. If you leave the GPU and Shaders at stock, and run up the memspeed, i dont see any increase in temps at all. Now that's because the temp sensor in on the GPU of course, but laptop GFX cards are undervolted on both the GPU and the Memory to extend battery life. 500 mhz is pretty close to the limits for the card at preset voltages, but as long as you are not doing a bios hack to change voltage you are pretty safe.

Granted you will always find someone who smoked their card overclocking, but they are also usually the type that runs SETI or Folding at Home 7/24. (When you do this the fan runs at full 7/24 as well, which means that the heatsink gets clogged with dust and lint fast).

It would be nice if there was a temp sensor on the memory, but the lack of one tells me its not that important. Keep in mind that the nVidia GPU auto scales back above a certain temp, but not mem temp. GFX memory doesn't get damaged by overclocking so much as just reaches its limits.

 

Well got it booted into Xp again and ran the "Find Optimal" test and I was way off, nVidia thinks that 703/491/1654 is the optimum speed.

So i rounded off to 700/500/1650 and ran OCCT, same max temp of 77 deg but it error-ed after a couple of minutes.

I dropped the shader clock to 1550 and after that it cleared OCCT fine. I don't think that the nVidia self test is nearly as hard as OCCT is, and doesn't drive the shaders nearly as hard. Aslo keep in mind that that spinning furry doughnut is way harder on the GPU than any game.

Anyway I went back into Win7 and ran the same settings, still error free but up to 82 degs. Well below the built in 105 deg auto scaleback temp on nVidia chips. Needless to say though running a game on battery power at these settings the % power level remaining counts down like a clock. But once again the clocks scale back to 400/400 at idle.

Choose your own course, but remember that those who have managed to smoke their GPU somehow tend to holler the loudest and in the most places, and often don't give the whole story.

If I played games all day, i might not keep at these speeds, but i figure 90% of the time I run at the 400/400 speed anyway, so I'm staying at 700/500/1550

Rock On

 

Yea well, I originally I oc'ed because I wanted to gain few free fps without risk of damage, since every hardware works between cetrain acceptable temp gaps, not just exact one that's safe for it, my guess is that there's usually 20% reserve intended for hardware stability, but taking like 5-10% of that limit seems like a safe way to boost GPU effectivness also the fact that our N50's have great cooling helps the matter.

I just hope that reaching over 5000 solid 3dmarks in 06 will make my 9650m GT handle Modern Warfare 2 just fine

 

All good, just sharing the specifics, and procedure that i used. Bang on regarding the great cooling. I tried running the same procedure on a mac pro laptop with a 9500 GPU in it and it was factory clocked at pretty much its limits 550/400/1325 there was very little headroom due to the fact that i think apple people don't like vents, or fans or any inkling that their computer is actually doing any work.

 

He fellas couple of quick questions, my screen had been flickering randomly when the notebook is touched and I think the switch in the headphone jack that turns off the speakers is hooped. Sounds like ASUS is going to get me to send my machine back to them? Anyone have experience with this process? How long does it take and do they repair or replace etc. I'm hoping they send me a new unit

Mark

 

hello! i have an asus n50Vc with the following configuration : intel core 2 duo 2.ghz 3 gb ram nvidia 9300m gs 512 mb without the tv tuner .that's the configuration.now i have two questions i've installed gta 4 on it and i didn't runs smoothly even in low detalis ..why? i know other laptops with the same configurations or weaker(athlon x2 with ati) wich runs ok . and the second question : how do i know how to use the power4gear utility? i understand when it's on battery i select battery saving but almost all the time i keep it plugged in what is the difference between high performance and enertainment? where can i find a manual for power4gear for windows 7? i wanna know how to use it.and how does it affects the computer by selectiong noe of the options.THANK YOU!

 

well first of all your gpu is way under powered for gta 4, my 9650gt barely runs it on low, and on your p4g if your running vista you can right click your battery and the p4g options should pop up. If it is win 7 you go to your power options in control panel and then on the left side your p4g options should show up, what p4g does aside from generic power settings you can turn off your disk drive or your webcam to save power other wise it really doesn't do much

 

ok and i have seen p4g extreme .what is for?and another question i have the upek 2009 protecotr suite and in windows logon when i scan the finger i hear a click and nothing happens . it used to work in windows is working .and could you tell me what is the diff between p4g high performance and entertainment? for example if i play games can i set it on entertainmnet ? i have seen in control p anel that high performance si almost the same as entertainment but the profile keeps the processor in 100% always or something like that

 

I have had my N50Vn for one year. Just now, I noticed in the Control Panel/System, under windows Activation, it says "3 day(s) until automatic activation. Activate windows now".

When I click on it, a box opens & at the top it says "The Windows Vista Ultimate product key you typed is invalid for activation"
I had typed nothing. As a mater of fact, this is the first time I had looked at that panel for many, many months.

Options presented are:
Buy a new product key online.
Type a different product key.
Contact ASUSTeK Computer Inc to resolve this problem.

They are closed at the moment so I will phone them tomorrow.


Does anyone know what has happened?

The only thing I can think of, is that I have used Acronis True Image a couple of times in the past few months & maybe that may have something to do with it?