Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
Are there any really good 3D games though? Anyone know how this would compare to the our regular full HD displays?
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Jack, I'll betcha with some "patience and understanding" you can overclock your GPU to some extent, maybe not to where you think you should be but surely more than standard settings, where you seem to be mired presently.
My suggestion would be for you to start the overclocking with the Core and Shaders locked together and take it slowly but surely up with the Core Clock first, and see if you could get somewhere up near 610-620 base Clock (Core) with the Shaders in the low 1500's, for starters this is where I would go with a difficult to clock GPU chip.
Once you get that stabilzed, wherever you end up there should be between 600-625 Core clocks with the locked Shaders, and just leave that alone as your base setting.
Then work on the Memory clock and see if the scores in 3DMark06 continue to improve. And I'd start with the base setting on the Memory clock and do NOT go higher than 5Mhz per clocking attempt, test with the two methods (OCCT then restart with the 3DMark06 attempt after that restart), and see if your scores continue to increase...take that up until the scores start to decline or you get instability, with the Memory/Shaders left at their highest overall setting you achieved earlier, and see where you can take that GPU.
I'll betcha you can get it overclocked, even a little bit doing that particular technique, and albeit conservative it is a legitimate way to clock a GPU that is difficult as yours seems to be, and that will definitely improve your 3DMark06 scores and FPS in games also, both will improve definitely if you can get the technique to work for you.
Try it! See what happens, and be patient, Jack be very patient and slow and methodical with your clocking upward and you will get *somewhere* other than where you are right now, just try my method and see if I'm right and it works, albeit slowly--but it should work and get your GPU clocked up a bit!
Good luck, and I sure hope this idea helps you out, as I think it should...I have overclocked Sassimac's GPU doing that technique also, and I got him to moire than 10,500 3DMarks with his difficult to clock GPU chip, so I think it can also be done with your GPU, which seems to be of a similar type to his GPU.
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Here's that graphic that I alluded to in my last post, sorry about that but I neglected to post it I got so involved with writing that couple of graphs there, as some of it confused even me!
The graphiX here simply shows what Everest conceives of the 2GB SODIMM of Patriot memory that I am presently using in the notebook to make up 8GB of RAM with the OEM 6GB of Kingston 1333Mhz RAM.
It shows that indeed Micron makes the RAM for Patriot in this instance, and perhaps others also, I dunno, but surely in this instance that is the case: Micron RAM it is!
That's about it, again sorry I neglected to post this in the last write I did about this complex RAM subject...
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It really doesn't matter which one of these you pick as they will *both work* fine in your laptop, however there's a review from an owner of an Asus G73JH that is on the page with the 1st listed RAM, which is a companion model notebook to our G51 series notebooks, and he said that the RAM is "perfect" for his computer...so at least there's a recommendation there for the 1st listed RAM which you could use to justify a purchase of that 1st listed RAM type module.
So the choice is yours really, as they'll both work fine in your new laptop if it's a G51-series of some sort, as you don't identify which notebook you own in your post...so which notebook do you have, then may I ask?
We should have a hard and fast rule here that people can't post if they don't identify which notebook they presently own, but it will never happen at notebookreview.com I'll betcha, and I wouldn't have to be asking this person the question I just did.
It is a good idea however, generically speaking about RAM purchases, to buy the same BRAND of RAM that your notebook has, if possible, and if the notebook in question here has Kingston RAM in it then I'd be inclined to purchase the same brand I already have in the notebook if you get my drift here.
When I bought a 2GB SODIMM for my notebook, to fill up the available slot to make up 8GB RAM vs having 6GB RAM in the notebook, I had the opportunity to purchase Kingston RAM at Amazon.com, but I passed because there was one review about the Kingston RAM at Amazon.com that gave it a bad rating, saying it was "fake" and some other interesting comments, so I went with the Patriot brand RAM and it has worked out purrrrfect in my notebook, when I am using 8GB RAM, instead of 12GB or 16GB RAM, which are the other choices I have. I have 4 Corsair 4GB SODIMMs for use when I want/need 16GB RAM in the notebook, or when I want/need to have 12GB RAM I have that contingent available also, with two Corsair SODIMMs along with two Kingston SODIMMs, I guess...you could say that "I have all bases covered" with respect to RAM in my G51-series notebook!
The notebook works optimally for testing and game playing with 8GB RAM, and for Photoshop extended use, or when I am working with my cinema programs such as Avid or Sony Vegas, or Pinnacle Studio for sound track work, I have the option to install up to 16GB RAM in the notebook...my choice... It's quite simple, at this point having done it so many times, to pop off the back cover of my notebook and install whatever contingent of RAM I prefer for a given day's work, but in all honestly I feel most secure and prepared for any assignment or use with 12GB RAM, as that feels like the size contingent that is best for ALL uses. :smile:
But right now, with 8GB RAM on the way up to Corsair for an RMA exchange I am using the 4 x 2GB SODIMMs for an 8GB pairing and things couldn't be better, if you ask me...so that may be my *permanent* contingent with my G51 notebook, however since I own 4 x 4GB SODIMMs of the Corsair brand I'll keep my options "open" with respect to RAM use and just take it in stride right now about RAM allocations...
Jack, why don't you just dump the AVG stuff, it's sort of my worst favorite type of anti-virus program...just an aside for your uses of the notebook. I suggest that you use Microsoft's free "Security Essentials" as that one is pretty seamless, works great in my experience as a virus catcher/scanner and overall security system.
Plus it's *made* by Microsoft itself, and for that reason alone it works very, very well with the OS by MS, my opinion only right there but it seems to be the case as I use it in two of my Core i7 desktops right now and it's been great so far...I can't even tell it's On or Off when it's working, there's no lags, keyboard stuttering, or other tell-tale signs of a laggy anti-virus program using the Security Essentials suite.
That would be my suggestion for you today, and again it's simply my subjective view of AVG as I had very bad luck using it in the past, and will not use it in any computer that I own or work on for friends, family, or business either!
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im using microsoft security essentials
AVG sux
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You're quite welcome, and thank you for the nice compliments as they are appreciated a bunch! Like oneb1t wrote, an SSD is really the top choice for an upgrade in one of these rocket-like laptops, not that adding more RAM isn't a good thing to do also, but an SSD is like well...it's like putting a blowtorch to gunpowder and feeling the blast! Hah! There's no goin' back to a conventional HD once you have an SSD, it's the worst addiction since heroin got put on the dangerous drug lists, I mean an SSD is an incredible thing, it truly is!
I'm at work right now on my PC workstation, but that laptop of mine is a freaky little thing with the OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, it truly is. I don't like to write much about it unless there's a reason to, and since you mentioned it I'll give it a spin for a couple sentences and then let the ideas create their own ripples if in fact they do, and you all can have a good old fashioned discussion about SSD's if you want, and I'll chime in if asked.
My friend/business associate SassiMac, the Aussie guy I just sent a new laptop down to JUST LIKE MY OWN--LITERALLY A DUPLICATE-- got me started on the SSD kick because he's been using one in his MacBook Pro for a long, long time, long before they became "fashionable" to have, and once I installed my 1st SSD, which was an Intel X-25M 160GB SSD in my former No.1 laptop, the UL30VT-X1, I was hooked, line, and sinker hooked on SSD's and their speedy rendition of data transfer, and I mean to tell you it is not subtle!
Truth be told, this laptop of mine will cold start in 30 seconds or less, and will restart in about 1/2 of that time, about 18 seconds or thereabouts for starters, and launching programs is freakin' instantaneous, there IS no waitin' no sir, none of that! Unfortunately I cannot actually describe accurately *how fast is fast* with an SSD, as SassiMac would say (that's his phrase, "How fast is fast?"...so I won't try to steal it, he wrote it first!) because you've got to experience it to believe it, to feel it, to see it, and to understand it. Suffice to say it is so fast that you wonder how the Hell it got to be like that!? Hah-Hah!
The newest deal in SSD's is the Sandforce Controller Mechanism, and my OCZ Vertex 2 has got that feature, and OCZ has really written some xlnt firmware to compliment it, and I highly recommend OCZ as the right "choice" to make when you are buying an SSD these days, so remember that if/when you get a chance to get an SSD at some point...and that's the key, firmware, and optimizing and showcasing the performance that all SSD's have at first: the trick is maintaining it over time, and that is where the Sandforce Controller Mechanism shines its best, where it really matters and it's the No. 1 reason I bought the OCZ brand in the 1st place, because these people are speed phreaks to beat the band!
They have written no less than 4 different firmware updates since they started with the Sandforce Controllers and made the Vertex 2, Agility 2, and Vertex LE available for sale last Spring 2010, and each update has made these SSD's better and better to the point that I don't know how much better they can be made, but if there's a way OCZ is gonna find it! :yes:
I knocked the crap out of the company because they have failed to produce their fabled "OCZ Sandforce Controller Toolkit" as yet, in my review at Amazon.com on their SSD, but I also complimented them highly on their firmware writing, and I'm gonna do it again here, today, just because they do such a great job at writing their firmware to compliment their Sandforce SSDs. :yes: :yes: :yes:
The latest firmware release is v1.22, and I'm not running it yet, I'm still @ v1.11 which is what my SSD came with, but eventually I'll update it to v1.22 and this is killah firmware, and really makes the Sandforce SSD's perform miraculously they tell me, suffice to say I'm really pleased with v1.11 though! My SSD to this day reads and writes in the key registries at speeds as high as 285MB/sec reads, and up to 275MB/sec write speeds, so this is truly amazing in a notebook, I can assure anybody reading this. THAT IS FAST! :smile:
To compare, my Intel SSD reads at up to 250-270MB/sec this is true, but only in certain key file sizes, while the Sandforce SSD's do it across the spectrum of file sizes! And then the Intel SSD writes at a paltry 80-120MB/sec when it's optimized to do so....less if not by the Intel SSD Toolkit...so the OCZ SSD's really have the bull by the tail when it comes to speed and performance, and that's the whole reason to buy an SSD in the 1st place! Speed! Performance! That's what it's all about! :rolleyes2:
I don't want to go off the deep end here, but I encourage you to read my review of the Vertex 2 120GB SSD over at Amazon.com under the name "Wavey Davey", which is my byline there, if you want some in-depth data about the SSD in question, and also I wrote a really long, involved review of the Intel X-25M 160GB SSD at Amazon also, so you can look that up too, same name, same byline there, if you want some really key and interesting explanations of the terminology and bywords of SSD's, so I'll leave that up to you readers to search them out because they are worth reading, trust me if you're into SSD technology read those reviews because I flat-out GET INTO IT!
The key to using an SSD in a notebook is to get it created correctly, and that means get it Aligned correctly, and you don't want to create partitions on an SSD because that defeats the whole purpose of having an SSD work for you in the best way possible, as they store data in particularly special ways in special places in their cell structures, so don't go putting partitions on your SSD if/when you ever get one, just leave them be, Align it correctly, use PAT (Paragon Alignment Tool) if necessary to do it right as rain, but do that then you can use the SSD to really enjoy your notebook because they make them very, very special once installed.
Don't keep any media library on them either, use an external HD for that sort of thing, just use the SSD for your applications and important programs you use, and the OS, and that is ALL you should be putting on an SSD otherwise you might as well just keep a conventional HD and not get an SSD.
People overburden their SSD's with trivial data and music libraries and iTunes, and the like, then they wonder "Where did all that performance go that I had when it was new?" So don't get into that trap, I'll warn all of you reading this against putting lots of media on an SSD because that is for other HD's not your SSD, if you want to keep performance high over time. The Sandforce SSD's do "housekeeping" when left idle, or shall I say when "left idling" with the computer turned on but nothing going on, so you need to understand that about them also. So let your Sandforce SSD have a couple hours "idle time" every other day or two, just so it does its organizing and cleaning up routines correctly, and that helps keep the speed up over time also. :wink:
Other than that simple practice, they are to ENJOY and BEHOLD, because there's nothing like an SSD's speed! It's incredible to experience and even I cannot do an adequate job of actually explaining what that feeling is like, so trust me on it though, and remember that I told you it's like nothing you've ever felt your notebook do before, that much is certain about it... it's like supercharging your automobile or turbocharging it as it might be, ie you just can't tell people what that is like, they have to feel it themselves before they believe it, and it's the same with an SSD's speed...it IS worthy of all the hype and talk that is all I can tell you about it, and you will get addicted, everybody does who tries it!
That's enough, I'm done for the day on SSD's, just wanted to give a little taste of SSD-ness to everyone today and tell you all yes, it is the No.1 thing to do to improve performance today in any computer, especially a notebook because we use them so much as a genre these days. I mean let's face it notebooks are happening, yes? Right! Everybody wants a nice, fast notebook, bar none, and an SSD is the No.1 thing to add to your notebook if you really want to enhance its potential and enjoy it 110%, bar none!
There is no substitute for SSD's speed, it speaks for itself and it's worthy of all the talk, hype and ooh and aaahing you could give the subject, so I'll just leave it at that: get one, you'll love it like no other addition to your notebook could be loved!
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$999 Cdn $'s? And you have to ask twice, LOL!
We just paid $1150 after $100 Rebate from Asus (B&H Photo Video, NYC) and you write that you can buy the brown one for $999 Cdn $'s, I don't get it, what's to ask...that's a steal!
You're using a Sony right, with the ATI 3650 512MB video board, right?
This one's the the nVidia GTS-360M 1024MB DDR5 with a full HD 1920 pixels LED LCD display, so much much better setup than the ATI 3650, no comparo...
It runs a trifle warm with the Core i7 AND the nVidia GTS-360M but it's manageable, especially where you are from, where it's cold!
Did you read Page No1? We explain all about the hardware there, read it...as for the Atheros 5895 WiFi card, replace it with the Intel N-6300 Utlimate 2.4/5.8Ghz Dual Band WiFi Card, as the notebook already has the 3rd antenna wired up, takes 5 minutes to change out the WiFi Card ($35 Amazon.com)...I did that, read my signature, too. It works great, in fact it Rocks!
You'll love the notebook, so be my guest for $999 Cdn $'s! I'd do that in a heartbeat! Just do a Clean Install, follow my guide for that here at notebookreview.com earlier in this thread, and you'll be fine.
Good luck, and hope this helped you decide...I'd go for it!
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i bought mine for 867$
3/4 year ago
touchpad is multitouch you can use 3 finger swipe
temperature is high inside case (70-90°C)
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but my version does not have bluetooth its total lowend
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Hai all,
Speaking of bluetooth, my bluetooth out of the blue have just started working HOW odd is that? the only thing I did last night was install the new nVidia driver (260.89) then I restarted & there it was bluetooth, NOTE that I'm not implying that there is a 'relationship' between the stated driver & the bluetooth module.
BUT why?, why now? .....& how?
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well, my G51-Jx-A1 was...
$2060 AUS (shipping Inc)
from "Affordable" Laptop Australia...
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Man I know this may sound cruel but your price makes me feel better about mine
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Good Evening fellow G51JX-A1/X5 owners, and oneb1t, you too fit in here somewhere but I just can't figure out *where* exactly because your model is el Freak-O-modelo, Ya know?
I mean what do we call a G51JX without BT, and some other CPU, but with the good GPU and gutz, et al? You tell me, and we'll both know then...! :rolleyes2:
Well, it was time that oneb1t's "Record Run" for 3DMark06 got eclipsed, and I reckon it is my little Monster Notebook with da Core i7 CPU, 8GB of RAM (tonight), BT, the trick WiFi N-6300 Ultimate card, a BluRay Burner called an Sony Optiarc 5730S, and my vaunted and incredible OCZ Vertex 2 120GB Sandforce-controller-equipped SSD that did the trick... :yes: :yes: :yes:
Please view my graphiX for the night, first the prelude, a warm-up lap such as it was, and then Da Money$$$ Run, where I put the pedal to the metal and hit the stride to 645 Core Clocks, 1551 Shader Clocks (locked), and finally just a little 2090Mhz Memory Clocks setting to round things off a little bit, sort of did the job wouldn't you say?
Since I got the brand new Version 2 nVidia GTS-360M Video Card (Asus), according to Everest Utlimate this is the case anyway, I have been wanting to "let the horses rumble" and set a new benchmark in the 3DMark06 set, and just picked tonight to do said act, so Whooaaah Is Me!
This video card has MORE in it, too, just don't want to go there yet is all...
I dunno *how much more* but more, trust me there's more where this came from!
When the Asus Tech Guys/Gals installed this Version "2" nVidia GTS-360M video getup and associated new other gear last week I had a feeling that this is something a bit special vs the normal cards, and it turns out IT IS! :smile:
I asked my Asus Rep about the new card last night in a telephone call, and all she'd say was, "Rex, it's different, got a higher base clock setting than a standard card, and it works a treat, so have at it"...she told me! I asked if it had a lot of "headroom" and she said, "apparently this is the case".
So there you go, now you know as much as I do about it, it's just
S P E C I A L for a new video board, and remember it also has a new Clock Generator, and some other new hardware around the video card. The card has a new "green band" around the *top* of it fyi, waaay different looking than a standard 360M video card, looks nothing like my old, defective card fyi either. I am tempted to take it apart, remove the card and inspect it, but then I'd be cheatin' yah? I want to install new TIM on it and the CPU both, use some of my special-version "cool, blue-colored" OCZ Freeze TIM compound on both pieces and get some decent cooling to both of them, but then again I'd void my socalled warranty if I did, I gather, so nix to that, darn! :cry: :cry:
I use Freeze on my Core i7 DO 920's in my desktops and it is a treat! :GEEK:
Keeps things really, really nicely controlled temps-wise, and then some...
My newest CPU with the Cooler Master Advance II Case/Chassis runs a good 10-degrees cooler than either of the other two, and it's runnin' da Freeze, a fresh batch of it also, so I so want to try that stuff on this laptop, you cannot believe how tempted I am to just go for it and do the job, the Hell with my warranty! What can I hurt, I AM an expert builder trust me on that. :smile:
I guess I'll have to ask my Asus Tech Rep is they'd mind tomorrow when I'm together after work, not burned out like tongiht, and see what she says (yes, it's a she!)!
This notebook just flat amazes me, it does honestly even jaded, "seen it all already" moi is jazzed by this one, it's special it really is!
I don't know *how high is high* frankly with this one, but I'll try again later in the the week when I'm not a basket case like tonight, like on the weekend ok? I think it's good for 11K 3DMarks trust me I do....we shall see...Can't promise anything but it feels right for that goal, so why not go for it?
Gotta love this notebook post-refurbishment by the Asus Tech Wizards up in Fremont, CA 94538, huh? Methinks so! Honestly I do!
These guys/gals seems to have their act together very much so...they enjoy a challenge too, it seems!
Maybe they'll trust me to do a nice TIM job on my lappy yah? I'll flaunt my Apple Service Tech license at them, huh? Would that help I wonder? Nah...!
Anyway, all Hail the new King of 3DMark06 scoring! BlueBlaze it is, the new King of the Hill, at least for tonight anyway this is the case...:smile:
Thanks for listening and for putting up with me, I just love performance like this, that is all she wrote about it! :yes:
If this laptop doesn't do 11K 3DMarks it won't be because I didn't try...the new TIM would help a bunch in that regard, too, of course it goes without saying.
If I break 11K points I am buying everybody a beer, how about that?
Hah!...
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Jack I don't quite understand the questions, could you please re-do them for me and I'll try and answer them directly ok?
As for 'my technique' I always reboot with the settings already in P4G. click the 'Apple at Reboot' button in EVGA Precision et al, makes it easy to test that way!
And I reboot every single test session never deviate from that quotient.
I think I alluded to that already, but just want to make it xstal clear!
Reboot every time you are testing a new setting, and reboot every time you are about to test, too! In otherwords, always reboot a LOT! Starts out with Clean ROM in the XML Channel for the video card, basically, no prior settings to muck up any test session so to speak.
PC's are funny things about rebooting anyway, as they seem to be non-Unix in that regard, where Unix CPU's don't really care that much about rebooting and clean ROM settings, ie they adapt readily to new settings, boot or not.
PC's on the other hand just need constantly to be refreshed and new, and that is how we get them that way, reboot a LOT with any installing, uninstalling, testing, etc etc etc...always reboot when in doubt with a PC.
Here's that 1st run by the way, prior to the record run for the evening, as I simply picked a nice "hot" settings and tried out the video card on it, with those exact settings and it took 1st time, no problem:
I an very surprised at this new "version 2" nVidia 360M-GTS video card, the newest of the new from nVidia replacement dept it seems, but it seems to have plenty of headroom, and will overclock very easily, with minimal fuss and bother, it just gets to business period!
Overall I just like these nVidia video cards a LOT, and think the most of nVidia in general as they seem to favor getting it right the 1st time, if not the 2nd time for sure...I mean look at my notebook for an example...the 1st card was just classicly bad, all around bad, while the new one here seems to be totally the opposite, a polar opposite methinks!
The new driver from nVidia is also apparently awfully good to boot, has plenty of headroom built into it also...
What doesn't have headroom from nVidia these days, huh?
If I'm lyin' I'm dyin', so please take it one step at a time when doing any serious overclocking and try to follow my guide unless you are very, very experienced at the craft of overclocking in general. I have been doing it a long, long time so you'll have to excuse my indifference to people that are not conservative from the get-go, ad I think that is a necessity in general to be successful at it overall.
Start out slowly, and finish with a Big Bang is a good way to look at my outlook on overclocking in general, and I think that's a good attitude to have overall anyway, seems to be a prevalent one with the tech people also.
If you don't really know what you are doing it also helps to start out very, very slowly and carefully, and then as you learn more about the characteristics of your machinery and software you can step it up a little, round by round, but always REBOOT a lot, it helps PC's function nominally to do so!
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Hello again, short and sweet this time...10,871 3DMarks total score!
I've MAXXED Out my hardware and the drivers both, tried several drivers and the latest seems to MAXX out the best, and lest I start doing damage to my video card, which is a Hell of a nice video card overall I am stopping the overclocking madness 100% until further notice.
I just simply cannot see this hardware going any higher than this, with any driver, come Hell or High Water, so here you go, the MAXXIMUM reachable overclocking on a Core i7 CPU equipped G51JX-series computer, apparently:
647 Core Clocks; 1556 Shaders Clocks (Linked); 2097 Memory Clocks, and THAT Is all she wrote! There aint' nothing left in the tank after that, this is MAXIMUM WARP for one of these cards with today's best driver.
I posted the graphiX to show the feat 100% for posterity, so enjoy, but that is the MAXIMUM these cards can reach with present technology. Now maybe the new GTS-460M 1.5GB video card will have better VRAM than this card I have here, but I strongly doubt it, as this is a Generation 2 (Rev. 2 in Everest Ultimate utility) nVidia GTS-360M the latest VRAM available from the company!
If anyone can post a higher overclocking than this, May God Speed, because they must be using force-fed ice-water and cold charmed air to their video card, as it's about 72-degrees F here now, a nice cool evening, and I just cannot get this card to go higher no matter what I try, any combination of Shaders, Core, and Memory Clocks...this is IT Folks, no more left to get!
I know that this 260.89 driver is the cat's meow also, the best available right now, as I've tried the earlier Verde drivers, plus the anitiquated 197.16 and a couple old standby's too, and they are not up to this 260.xx driver's feats!
It's safe to say unless something very unusual happens with somebody's GTS-360M video card, that this is just about the MAXIMUM Possible Mhz with one of these cards, barring some miracle that I cannot produce.
Good luck to all you overclockers, I've done the hard part for you once again, and I hope that this example is high enough for everybody so you wont' go out and damage your video cards trying to best it...there is really no sense in that, but if you must I cannot stop you....
Later gents, good night, and have a great weekend!
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Field Value
Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M (Asus)
GPU Code Name GT215M
PCI Device 10DE-0CB1 / 1043-203C (Rev A2)
Transistors 727 million
Process Technology 40 nm
Bus Type PCI Express 2.0 x16 @ x16
Memory Size 1 GB
GPU Clock (Geometric Domain) 639 MHz
GPU Clock (Shader Domain) 1620 MHz
RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 8
TMU Per Pipeline 1
Unified Shaders 96 (v4.1)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v10.1
Pixel Fillrate 5112 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 30672 MTexel/s
Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type GDDR5
Bus Width 128-bit
Real Clock 2092 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 4185 MHz
Bandwidth 65.4 GB/s
Utilization
GPU 0%
Memory Controller 1%
Video Engine 0%
nVIDIA ForceWare Clocks
Standard 2D GPU: 135 MHz, Shader: 270 MHz, Memory: 135 MHz
Low-Power 3D GPU: 405 MHz, Shader: 810 MHz, Memory: 324 MHz
Performance 3D GPU: 640 MHz, Shader: 1625 MHz, Memory: 2097 MHz
Graphics Processor Manufacturer
Company Name NVIDIA Corporation
Product Information Products
Driver Download Drivers - Download NVIDIA Drivers
Driver Update DriverAgent - Device Driver Downloads, Updates, and Scans
Here you go Mr. 253, it's yours to peruse...note the "Rev 2" tag at the top of the description...my old card had none of that in Everest, so does yours? Mine did not, this is all new descriptions in that part of the dialog.
The card does run cooler also, never saw higher than 90 degrees tops in any test no matter what I was doing with the RAMDAC or VRAM as you call it...
Base clock seems to be the same, but the top clocks that make any difference once you unlink the Core and Shader are top Core Clocks of 640Mhz and top Shaders of 1625Mhz, and that is all she wrote. Over that settting unlinked you get driver crashes, and I don't like those because it can damage the card if you do it enough, you know?
That's about it for Everest's take on the card, but it is different than my
Gen 1 card in the computer originally...see for yourself!
Hope that is what you were after...and by the way, this setting beat my top score by one point! Go figure!! Hah-Hah! Not worth it to stress the card so much just for one point...better to leave them locked together, Core and Shader that is, and be more conservative, as you get the same results basically.
Later Mr. 253...
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And this setting won the overall competition for highest score, period, end of story...645/1625/2097Mhz!
Top Score=10,878 3DMarks scored
I am seriously done with this now, and will not be going back to "better my record" any further...end of story.
Later Guys and Gals, if any!
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Are you sure you couldn't get that shader clock to 1700...
Na, just kidding, those clocks are insane, hopefully I will be able to achieve something similar after my new cooling system is made.
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Hi guys, I'm a proud new owner of an ASUS g51jx-3de and it rocks. The 3d capabilities are great and everything else but I came across an issue today which is really frustrating me. When I'm not gaming in 3d I want to hook up my laptop to my 42'' LCD Tv just like i did with my old laptop using an HDMI cable. For some reason it is not working!
I disabled 3d from the Nvidia control panel and reset the computer and now it recognizes the tv (it is available under the 'multiple monitors' menu) but when I select it to display the same image on both screens or even when I just leave the TV as the main display nothing comes up. I even tried lowering the refresh rate on the Laptops lcd to 60 hdz (to match the tv's refresh rate) and setting the same resolution on both (TV and laptop) but that didn't work either.
Seems like all G51jx models have the same NVIDIA 360M chipset, hopefully any of you guys can guide in the right direction regarding this issue. I still have time to return it (since i just bought it), but I'm loving this powerhouse so much that I want to find a solution. It would be really unacceptable though not being able to hook it up to the big screen for this kind of laptop.
Can anyone please help me?Attached Files:
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Hey guys, so i finally got my new g51jx today!
wow this things screen is bright, and its decent sized laptop despite it being a 15.6', feels huge over an upgrade from a 15.4"
anyway i have a few questions:
1) How do u guys monitor ur i7 temps, previously i was using rmclock but that doesnt support i7.
2) how did you undervolt your cpu?
3) whats the best gadget/program to monitor gpu temps preferably in the taskbar or a gadget.
4) the sticker that was on the screen of the laptop when i first opened it said the gts 360m is gddr3, but gpu-z shows it as gddr5 (which i hope is correct)
5) is the amount of keyboard flex normal? they keys on the top seem to experience the most keyboard flex with the most basic presses.
6) how do i use intels turbo boost?
7) and last thing, how do u control the lid lights!
I'll also be posting up some benchmarks later of some games
Thanks!
For fun: Heres a pic of it side by side against my old toshiba satellite A300
![[IMG]](images/storyImages/DSC00214.jpg)
Edit:
What the hell? I just noticed something...
where the hell is the fan of this thing?
Heres a pic of the bottom and the vent:
![[IMG]](images/storyImages/DSC00219.jpg)
![[IMG]](images/storyImages/DSC00220.jpg)
That peice of paper is just to cover the windows 7 code. Nothing there.
Wow the gpu runs at 58c idle
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i need new thermal paste to get 11k in 3dmark 06
new heatsinks arrived
now at 10772
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@shinakuma9
and enjoy your laptop
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Mr. 253 your Everest dialog (if in fact it has a "Rev A2" attached to the PCI bus description like mine does) doesn't disappoint me at all, it simply goes to show you the differences in the physical parts and pieces of our respective G51JX-A1's. My original card did *not* have the "Rev 2" dialog, it had nothing at all there at the bus description, so that's why I thought it to be an earlier, or shall I say, different part than the replacement video board. :smile:
In addition the new board has a "green band of color" at the top of the card where the part numbers are, plus the part numbers are totally different than the original card also, another thing that suggests that it's a revision of the original card's version. Physical characteristics being different and the different part number led me to that conclusion about my particular notebook's video board, the new one vs the old one. Maybe yes, maybe no, it's all a guess on my part... :wink:
Now the bottom line is that my old video board was installed in the notebook on Jan 10, 2010, the build date of the computer, and I know what that build date is because the notebook *had* the build date sheet, with specs and parts and pieces checked off, one by one in their respective columns on the sheet, *IN THE BOX* when I opened up my computer for the 1st time. I've never seen such a thing in a notebook's box before, and have kept it in my papers for the notebook ever since I bought the computer, because it is so unusual. :yes:
I have no idea why it was there, probably a simple oversight on the part of the person inspecting and packing my notebook at the Taiwan, China Asus factory where it came from/was shipped from, but anyway I have it to this day and it shows why mine had ALL of the media that it did, too! If you'll recall I have previously detailed the included media that came in the box:
1) Asus Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Installer DVD ROM with OS key on the DVD's paper insert/cover. version "2.0" DVD fyi-- while all my other Asus installer DVD's were version "1.0", ie from an Asus 1201N, an Asus UL30VT-X1, and an Asus N71JQ-A1...all those Asus notebooks had the "1.0" installer DVD
2) Drive & Utility DVD ROM v.1.2, with all the Asus drivers, software+crapolajunkware and Express Gate etc
3) PowerDVD v6.0 CD ROM with the Cyberlink burning software suite and player software suite
Later notebooks apparently didn't have anything except the Driver/Utility DVD in the box, so I got extremely lucky with getting such an early notebook, albeit being purchased on May 10, 2010 from B&H Photo Video/Pro Audio, me getting it on May 14, 2010 via UPS 3-Day Air Saver shipping, and I thank my lucky stars I have those DVDs anytime I do an install on an Asus computer, because the installer for the OS works on ANY Asus 64-bit computer, ;-)!
It not only works on any Asus notebook capable of supporting the 64-bit OS, is assigns a "generic" ID to the OS install and self-validates, so that I don't have to go through a big song and dance on the telephone with Microsoft and/or use the product keys on the notebook I'm installing the OS on! To wit I've used my installer on a friend's UL50VT notebook, my UL30VT-X1 laptop, my own notebook, and even SassiMac's new G51JQ-X5 notebook most recently, and I did not have to go through the "product key shell game" with any of those notebooks, so the DVD is sort of a "magic installer" DVD it seems, and I am very, very lucky to have it.
That being an aside to the equipment my notebook came with, there was a line on that build sheet that came in the notebook box for the DVD's, one by one, and they were all three checked off there by whomever packaged my notebook up for shipment, with the January 10, 2010 date stamped up at the top of the sheet in typewritten format, apparently when the sheet was first printed out. At the bottom of the sheet the data appears again with a signature, apparently from a Chinese guy/gal best I can tell because it reads "Chin-Huang, T.L." from my best attempt at translating it and my wife's too (she's Chinese), with "10-1-2010" next to the signature line, as they normally put the date ahead of the month when writing it out, so I assume the date matched the date at the top of the build-sheet, which read identically.
That's the whole unexpurgated story of the mysterious "build-sheet" which came in the box with my computer, something I've never, ever received before with a notebook purchase, from any manufacturer, be it Sony, Asus, Acer, Apple, whomever, never seen such a thing in the box for any of them.
How did I get going on that deal, oh yes, I was alluding to the fact that my notebook was, in fact, a very early production G51JX-A1, being built the 2nd week of January, 2010, and it had all the media described which the later notebooks apparently don't/didn't come to the USA with.
So it is conceivable that my notebook also had an earlier rendition of the video board from nVidia *without* the "Rev 2" description attached to it in Everest's notations of the hardware vs. the one I have now, which does have the "Rev 2" description, but I don't for a fact know that it makes any difference at all in the boards themselves, I am just guessing, purely guessing about the nomenclature of the video boards. :GEEK:
The small things, they always get noticed by yours truly, it seems, and so it is with my video board(s) for the G51 notebook I've got now. Maybe I'm assuming that the difference in the board is there when it *isn't*, too! They could be identical parts no matter what my perceptions are in the matter, as I am only noting what I see being different in the two cards I got, both from Everest and from the physical description too.
This "green colored band" at the top of the new board is also different than the OEM board that came with my notebook and was replaced with the one with that "green colored band" with the part numbers prominently stamped/labeled on it, and they are totally different than my original card's part numbers also. It could mean absolutely nothing at all, or it could be a different board altogether vs the OEM board, who knows? I am just guessing it's different, maybe even a different revision of the video board, which only Asus/nVidia actually knows the answer to that.
It sure does behave different than the OEM board though! Holy Smokes!! That part, through my testing/analysis of the new board, is like night and day different! This new board has a TON of "headroom" for overclocking, and I am thankful for that of course it goes without saying, plus it runs physically very much cooler than the old board did. It seems to actually "favor" the 88-90-degrees range of temps during stress testing, I mean it goes there, and then it STAYS THERE no matter what settings, what test I am doing, be it OCCT, 3DMark06, Vantage, or Everest's tests for the video board, ie the card just doesn't waver much from 88-90-degrees C at all! It will *start* to get to 91-degrees, just a little "blip" of that temp in Everest, Real Temp Beta, and GPU-Z, but then it immediately goes back to 90-degrees, then to 89-degrees, where it mostly stays during the critical and heavy-duty parts of testing, and it wavers not at all from that description.
During normal use it stays at or about 76-80-degrees C, never wavering from that temp area, so this video board is a bit of an enigma in temps achieved! It runs a trifle warm yes, but then it doesn't get "hot" either! Not at all, not ever, so far anyway. And I don't plan on repeating my rigorous testing procedure anytime soon, so my new card has had its test sessions, I know what it will do now, and can use it accordingly with the appropriate clocks for the different games I play.
Am I pleased/happy about Asus's "rebuilding procedure" with my notebook, overall? Hell Yes I am!! I think that they did a standup job on my notebook, could not be more pleased unless it were for them to allow me to replace the TIM paper which is on the CPU and GPU now with xlnt performing OCZ Freeze TIM material, and only then would I be totally happy with the new parts and pieces they installed.
For all I know putting OCZ Freeze on the CPU and GPU is not a good idea, ie maybe they are designed to operate best with Thermal Paper TIM, for all know. However I'd sure like to give The Freeze a try! Hah! Why not? If it makes a 10-degree difference as it does with my Core i7 920 CPU's in my desktops it would be just amazing for this notebook, don't you think? I would love it if the temps were to come down 10-degrees or more, just for safety's sake and for the long-term health of the new parts and pieces from Asus, or so I think right now.
Monday/Tuesday I am going to call my Tech Support "favorite person", a nice lady tech who will be back at work come Monday, and I am going to try to get her permission to replace the factory TIM on my notebook with The Freeze, and take it from there. Other than that, I'll have to be happy with my new video board, Clock Generator, co-processor and assorted other parts and pieces that were renewed by Asus Tech Support in Fremont, CA 94538, and just enjoy everything the way it is right now.
This is a fantastic G51JX-A1 once again, I think one of the best out there in Asus Land perhaps, and I will love it every single day I use it just like it was a brand new computer again, as it seems to have been "reborn" again, you agree? :rolleyes2:
And such a nice "rebirth" too, it's had! For what these are, notebook computers, I don't think that they have any equal except for the next generation of Asus ROG notebooks that are just hitting the retail markets all over the world, and who's to say that they will be that much better than these are anyway? I know that the G73JW-series of notebooks are still operating with Beta drivers from Asus/nVidia at this point, so that can't be such a good thing, you know what I mean?
Once they get proper drivers written and proven we will begin to see just how good those computers turn out to be, vs these, and then we can make an assessment about "those vs these" notebooks, but up to this point I say that we have the best notebooks in the world, bar none, especially when you trick one out like I've done to mine! G51JX-A1/X5's Rule!
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