Asus G51Jx Owners Lounge

As oneb1t wrote, go into Control Panels, Sound>Speakers>Properties> and turn on "Loudness Equalization" in that control panel, save--hit "Apply" setting, and that alone will increase your sound output by 25%-40% or so, but forget it if you are looking for a loud sound output from the Asus speaker system because it's weak compared to other notebooks. I have an "antique" MacBook G3 notebook that is 9 years old, for comparison, and its speakers are loud as the dickens by comparison to the G51JX's speakers, as are my wife's MacBook Pro's speakers (2009 late, model), so I dunno?

I don't know what Asus was thinking when they figured out the loudness quotient of our notebooks in terms of decibels of sound, because they are weak excuses for notebook speakers, unfortunately. Thanks to God that the headphone output is good, because I use my Ultimate Ears Triple-Fi 10's (IEM's) mostly with this notebook when I want to hear a movie's soundtrack, or music for that matter, as there really is no alternative other than headphones in order to hear sound out of the computer!

I also have my speaker's setting at 8 in BIOS, but it hardly makes a difference really in the sound output, but the Loudness Equalization setting will make a substantial increase in the % or so that I indicated above, depending on how you have arranged your sound output with the Creative Control Panel, and the RealTek Control Panel both...so give that a try and good luck with it...just don't hope for anything loud because it won't happen, just is impossible with present hardware/BIOS settings in the computers.

 

I got it to work! Just had to update my nVidia drivers to the latest available non-beta version and it worked like a charm as Rex said. Plag n Play too. Although now my problem is the output looks sooo much better on my tv than on the display! Haha.

Any help on this Rex? I think you got the AUO display like mine as well? Do you use Splendid or the nVidia CP to set your color and gamma? If so, what settings do you use? Been trying to calibrate it using visual tools but it's still too bright/white/washed out for my liking. There's also a yellowish hue on the gamma calibration/test images such as the one in the link below:

Monitor calibration and gamma

Funny thing is, the image looks appropriately gray in my office LCD which should be lightyears away in cost from my laptop's! Haha.

 

Glad to hear you got your problem fixed, because a lot of people get stuck on this Laptop to TV connection, its just nice to see a few pull through

 

Any help from Rex will have to be delayed until Thursday/Friday, as my notebook was FINALLY finished today and shipped tonight out of Fremont, CA 94538, which is two FedEx Zones North from where my place is in SouthernCalifornia. I could get lucky and get it Thursday (most likely scenario) or get unlucky and get it on Friday. FedEx is usually very good with NorCal to SoCal deliveries, and vice-versa, as they shipped mine to Fremont from here in just 2 days transit, 9AM Monday to 9AM Wednesday, so let's see if they can duplicate the feat North to South and get me my laptop Thursday in the AM.

I am jazzed about the notebook getting fixed, as the Tech Support people replaced my video card, and "other associated parts" according to the web site news late last night. I'd guess that my Clock Generator also got nixed and replaced, as that is a common issue with failed video cards and poor output, but we'll see what the checklist says when I receive it. At least the trip North was a worthy trip and they actually listened to my pleas for a new video setup, and how error-prone my card was according to all the consumer tests that I could do here at my place, simple software tests.

They have very sophisticated equipment for testing the cards OUT of the machine, one disassembled, in case you guys and gals didn't know that. It's a fact, just like they can test the RAM on a hardware RAM tester the VRAM can also be tested accordingly, and I'm certain that mine would have failed considering all the errors I was getting in OCCT v3.1 and problems playing high-intensity games like GTA:IV, COD:WAW, and my new fave Mafia II...I'd get broken, jagged lines of color where it should have been rendered clean and clear, or I'd get white spots and blotches where there was no color at all during game play/testing both, so the card was bleeding and terminal as sent to Asus. I am happy that they replaced it, and other things too most likely...we shall see. :yes:

I have missed my laptop a bunch, having to rely on my wife's MacBook Pro, where I have a Boot Camp partition running Windows 7 Ultimate, and although it works fantastic on the little MacBook Pro, it is nothing like a Core i7 CPU working with 8 Cores blazing during heavy use. I will be very, very happy to get my BlueBlaze back, in good working order, my fingers and toes are crossed as I think about it getting repaired up in Fremont at Asus Tech Support, Central for the USA.

I know there is one other USA Asus repair facility run by Asus Corporation in Indiana, but the California repair depot is top drawer, they have yet to disappoint me with their work...as I've written before they correctly diagnosed my UL30VT-X1's RAM issues and replaced my RAM with 1333Mhz SODIMMs from Nanya Corp, xlnt RAM btw; then they successfully repaired the G51JX-A1 when my BT went South, replacing both major boards in it, (motherboard and BT board/module) and reflashed my BIOS to v207 also...so I was very pleased both times it was there for repairs...and I'm hoping that this time will be good, as well.

Plus when I got the laptops back both times they were immaculate looking, and there was no obvious signs of shoddy workmanship, with all fittings intact where they should have been, all screws replaced and torqued correctly, and most of all they were both polished most likely, with some industrial-strength cleaner(s) that made each laptop glisten and shine like crazy; my keyboards were finger-print-less; LCD's polished and cleaned, also. In short they did xlnt work both times my Asus laptops were there for service, impressive work even for my critical eyes.

Say a prayer for my laptop that it happened again like that, all my friends here, please! I could use all the luck possible about now, as I wait for my shipment to arrive...I'll be ready for it 1000% this time, since it's been gone more than 2 straight weeks getting repaired this time. If I get disappointed I'll be miserable, so I hope that's not the case...I so love this notebook when it's right as rain!

As for setting up the LCD I can recite the basic technique that I use for Asus LCD's, both of my last two getting the same treatment:

1) I to into nVidia Control Panel>Color Adjustment Panel>Advanced, and I change the base values to nVidia settings of 0-255 Dynamic Digital Picture Improvements, and check 1) Dynamic Contrast Enhancement, and 2) Color Enhancement (both) hit "Apply", and close the control panel.

This helps to improve contrast and movies and video that have scenes that are too bright, or too dark to see all the details, normally, and gives them depth of field and dynamic enrichment, per nVidia's web page description of those controls. :wink:

As far as Splendid goes, I have enhanced my Gamma to +1, and gone to "Vivid" Color enhancement with the G51JX-A1's LCD display also, as that has really brought out the deep blacks, and blues, and browns, and gives a zing to silver, yellows, oranges, light reds and greens also, to where there is a LOT more contrast within shading zones. :wub:

I don't use a Photoshop Colorometer or other device to adjust the actual dynamic ranges of the individual colors, as you can do with an Apple LCD for example, because the AU Optronic displays do not have the depth of field that Apple displays do, and it's a waste of time to go through such a process with one of the Asus LCD's.

Those are the basic adjustments I use, and it does tend to get rid of things like yellow hues and shadings to whites, or bright colors having tinges of similar shading colors in them at extreme settings in games with near-3D quality textures, such as GTA:IV, COD:WAW, and others by Activision and the quality-rendered really great game companies.

Overall I have found the Asus LCD's to be 80-85% or so of the quality of an Apple display, for comparison, and I wouldn't begin to ask an AU Optronics LCD to perform like an Apple display can/does/will do, because it's not possible...the angles are never as good, nor are the actual color breaks and shading either, it's just not in the cards to have that high quality display in an Asus laptop at this point. Maybe the 2011 models will change my mind about that, but that is the way it has been this past year.

You'd think that Asus would bust their buns and get some higher quality displays in the laptops with things like an nVidia GTS-460M, such as will be coming in the new G53JW and presently that's in the G73JW-which can be bought right now at Amazon.com for $1745 shipped. I haven't seen the new displays myself yet, so my mind is always open for new things and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised when I finally get to see the new video cards and displays in action.

I don't have any plans to buy one of the new models just yet, but let's see what tomorrow brings...I can always change my mind, given the chance!

 

Good luck with your delivery! I'm really satisfied with the performance of the 51jx even on my core i5. Amazing value for the money you spend.

Had to go through a long period though deciding how to buy it and how to get it here to the Philippines. It costs almost 40% more here and those are usually the BB versions. So I got it off Amazon and had it shipped through a third courier over here and all's well.

About Splendid, and since I can't yet use the PM function here, I'd like to ask you how you tweaked the settings. I can only adjust the color temp and rgb values for "My Profile" and not for the other profiles. I'd particularly like to change the brightness setting as I'd like a little more control than the hotkey functions. Gamma and Theatre look just about right except they're still a little too bright.

Thanks for all the help from everyone posting. I've learned a great deal reading through the tons of info on these pages. Glad I found this forum.

 

Good Luck Rex! After a busy couple of days tweaking and transferring files over from my old laptop, I think I have finally settled into my G51Jx-X5. Like FFC said, this laptop is an excellent value that runs my CAD and Photo/Video software like a champ!

 

I didn't change/adjust the brightness from within Splendid CP, I adjusted brightness from within the Energy Saver Controls in P4G! Just do that, and your problem is solved...for instance normally I operate @60% brightness for normal computer use, while for gaming I like 88% and physically change P4G to reflect that value when I am doing any sort of gaming or video use, too.

Did that thought escape you, or just didn't think about it? Because you can have multiple profiles in P4G and Energy Saver Preferences in Control Panels, even configure your very own Custom Settings in the Windows Energy Saver CP's, and get it exactly to your liking for whatever reason you have planned for a given set of values/settings.

That's what I would do if I were you, use the CP's and Energy Saver, or both to achieve the perfect level of brightness for your uses...I know that the LCD is just too bright in general--for my tastes it is anyway, and I never use more than 60% brightness for normal pursuits, web browsing, email, MS Office, any sort of calendar or scheduling functions etc etc.

Hope this helps you solve the brightness issue, which I agree is terrible OEM settings...

And to the new people Welcome to our forum here, where funz are the words that makes us all smile and be happy with our G51's! Thanks for the well wishes and good luck gesture also, as I need all I can get during the next couple of days until my machine gets here, all fixed hopefully!

 

It's Baaaaaaack!

My notebook arrived this afternoon @ 2:35PM or thereabouts, and I'm home the day tending to some family business of import luckily, or the FedEx guy wouldn't have been able to leave my package--Asus wanted a Direct Signature this time, and so they got it and I have my notebook back 110% to the good.

I have to tell anybody reading this who has a mind to complain about Asus Tech Support to think twice before opening your mouths or writing about bad service, because this is just a stellar job of fixing my errant VGA issue.

Not only did they replace the VGA board, but they replaced all kinds of VGA support items, including the co-processor module, the Clock Generator, and the complete LCD itself, along with all cables, interfaces and the LCD module itself! The GPU and CPU both have new, much improved TIM (Thermal Interface Material, ie CPU paste such as IC Diamond, my favored brand of OCZ Freeze, etc) which is in place also, as my temps are down significantly during stress or heavy use, also. :yes:

Plus they cleaned up the notebook to purrrrfection again, I mean it is spotless and you cannot tell that a screw has been turned anywhere in the laptop, the LCD is polished and has a nice gloss to it as to reject dust (anti-static coating of some sort), they replaced all the lid rubber grommets and bumpers with new fittings also, and it is just shining and working 100% again, just like it did when brand new.

I am going to use it "as-is" without replacing my SSD, the WiFi card, or upgrading the RAM for a couple days, just to be sure that all is well before I do anything like upgrading components back to my liking, but so far so good! I did a short OCCT v3.1 memory test sequence @ 2000Mhz and no more errors! Say Yaaaaay! I got more than 60,000 (60K) errors before I sent the laptop in at the 2000Mhz setting, and elevated temps also, spikes to over 95-degrees C, while now it's running @ sub-85-degree temps even at 100% GPU load.

The tech conveniently left me his test sequences with OCCT v3.1 also, on my desktop in a folder labeled "OCCT Tests, 10-11-2010", which is the day they finished repairs, apparently, and it shows a couple 10X passes on the memory checker therein with ZERO Errors, so it's nice to see the tech using a test that I am familiar with along with his own hardware tests, and including the results for me to see also. Nice! :wink:

This is as good as service gets, if you ask me, as even Apple would be envious as to the level of expertise and detail shown with the repairs that Asus Tech Support in Fremont, CA 94538 did on my notebook. I mean this is just XLNT stuff! So that makes 3X that I've had notebooks in for service this year, and each time things were done XLNT, and I have not a single complaint about the level of service at all, no complaint whatsoever about their tech skills, support, or customer satisfaction index. I give Asus Fremont, CA 94538 my 100% PURRRRFECT Endorsement again for this repair on my G51JX-A1, as I am 100% satisfied and pleased about everything I've seen thus far, and then some! :yes: :yes: :yes:

It is soooo good to have this one back in the house, and working @ 100% functionality, and performance is as good as it gets, once again, so THANKS ASUS! You guys and gals did a fantastic job, and I cannot wait for the CS Satisfaction Survey to come down the pipe for me to fill out, as this repair was exemplary and and I am totally jazzed by the work done on my G51JX-A1, it's just amazing how well the techs came to terms with my problems with the notebook, then set about repairing it waaaay beyond my wildest expectations, fixing things that I had no idea needed repairing/replacing, so again THANKS ASUS, You're The BEST!!!

I can't tell you all how confident this makes me about Asus service and tech support, as they have approached and are exceeding my expectations each and every time I've asked for their help with a problem, so I have no doubt that this notebook will be maintained and in good working order for the 3 years that I plan on keeping it with factory support for the duration.

Also, they did NOT Recover my OS, as I asked them to not do that if possible, so my apps and programs are all intact, just as I sent the notebook in-- I didn't have to reinstall anything at all, just could pick up where I left off with things I was doing with the notebook, it's all well and good, purrrfect again, in another important, necessary aspect of having the notebook repaired.

This is the result, and then some, that I was hoping for with this rather *serious* repair that Asus helped me out with, and I am sort of speechless about how I feel about Asus support right now. If anyone has any questions about the repairs, how they were done, and the parts that were replaced, by all means ask me and I'll try and fill you in on what I know about their work on my notebook. The parts list was included with the shipment, the replaced parts, that is, and there's a nice typewritten statement by the tech who did the work as to how he progressed through the repairs. At one point he called Asus, Taiwan for their opinion on an important thing that had to be fixed, it seemed, and after that he proceeded to repair the notebook completely, with all of the above parts that I listed getting replaced, one by one until finished. The notebook was thoroughly tested to his satisfaction on Tuesday, the 12th of October, after apparently running all night on their "stress test" programs, so Kudos to the tech who worked on my notebook! Great Job! :smile:

That's all I have to report today, so it looks like my notebook is back in great form, and I am one pleased, and happy Asus owner right now, could not be happier than I am about this big repair job from Asus Tech Support, Fremont, CA 94538.

 

is this for real?

G51JX 3D Notebook Display (15.6wxga hd) for $76.00 (Glossy & Matte Finishes) | LCDScreen.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LCD-ASUS-G5...490?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4aa0be75ea

 

By any chance rex, are you talking about the OCCT Perestroika 3.1.0
Because I love that program : )

I used it on my computer a lot, have yet to install on laptop, so busy with school -_- boo

 

That would be the one Jack, the v3.1 OCCT testing and benchmark settings
system for video cards, and CPU's, the one that combines LinX benchmark setting/torture testing sequences with the best pure benchmark-setting science project there is, PRIME95 along with an error-generating and counting system that sets the bar in that regard for PC's of all types, especially those with multiple video card setups, such as SLI or double SLI or SLI with a dedicated PhysX-video card.

I didn't even know that OCCT meant until late last year when I got involved with testing the double SLI setup in my PC desktop with my friends over at EVGA.com, in the video card section Forum there...and one of the sharpest guys there sent me a PM about passing the OCCT v3.1 "video card torture chamber test sequence", which is using the utility for a period of at least 1 hour at full bore/Load at the highest possible settings, which are as I recall "9" or "10" numerically, and seeing if your setup can pass it and not overheat or freak-out and fail, in any number of ways, and so I tried it out, and BAM! Did I learn some stuff about my video card setup real, real quick!!

My setup is two EVGA GTX-285 1GB DDR3 SuperClocked cards in SLI, with a hard bridge connecting the two in the "middle" bridge of the two cards, which locks them physically, electronically-speaking to each other 100%... and if they are not 'matched" correctly during the OCCT test sequence all HELL breaks loose very, very quickly and you find out immediately any/all possible weaknesses or strengths of your board's output, and of course whether they can in fact pass the test too, the whole object of the exercise.

To make it short and sweet, I discovered that my cards were in fact not matched well together, and in discovery mode found out that they were different versions of the same card made on two different processes, and I had to RMA them both since they were both less than 30 days old, to Amazon.com, and exchange them for a matched set of GTX-285 SC Video Cards that were literally identical right down to their serial numbers, being made apparently during the same week, at the same EVGA assembly plant, as they were only some 14 numbers apart numerically, a very desirable thing to have!

But back to the testing, during the test one card tracked up to 105-degrees C and 'white-faced out', while the other card went up to 95-degrees and soldiered on and could actually pass the test as a single card, but not paired with the other one, (the original cards, not the RMA cards)...so the OCCT test sequence is the most accurate, brutal, and self-discovering test that exists on the consumer-level for video card testing, or so I learned. This happened whether I had the fans manually cranked up to 100% load or left on auto-pilot to fend for themselves, it didn't seem to matter, so the OCCT stress test is an xlnt way to figure out if you've got a good video setup, it just simply works fantastic in that regard.

When I tested my notebook's nVidia GTS-360M on the OCCT stress test, some interesting things started happening. First, at any setting the test generated significant numbers of errors when the memory test was applied, and I am talking thousands and thousands of errors in the 4-minute test segment, so I didn't bother with the extended test: I had found the source of my video problems with the notebook, apparently.

Also, the chamber test, where you apply full load for 25-minutes, with a 4-minute cool down and 5-minute post-ramp-up segment, at any memory clock setting, from 1800Mhz up to 2000Mhz (I didn't need to go higher with all the problems those tests found), generated severe fragmentation, pixelation, and my LCD would literally "go white" then recover, and/or would freeze 100%, and not recover, the computer would have to be 'hard' shut down with the power button held down 100% for 30 seconds or so, and it would fail the test, of course.

So I found that I had some hardware issues to tell the manufacturer about, which I did on the telephone, and in addition I made graphics of the graphs the test generates and sent them via email to my Asus Tech Support Rep's mailbox, and waited 15 minutes for a call back, and we then discussed the results. The rep then involved his direct Supervisor in our "chats" and the Supervisor initiated my RMA, looked at the graphics himself, and told me that most likely my video card had failed, and would need replacing but "let's see what happens when we test the video board and associated components" with hardware test apparatus, which he didn't elaborate about, but told me " we have ways to test the video boards removed from the computer", and he called those tests "fail-safe" tests, a truth-serum as it was for the video boards, that always told the story best rather than just testing the cards IN the notebooks.

The Supervisor also told me that in general it's not always "just the video cards that fail" but there are associated parts and pieces of the notebook that also might need fixing, one being a "co-processor" in the notebook which buffers video signals between the motherboard and the PCI-Express bus, and also the Clock Generator could also be a culprit, and there were "other things that might need repair, replacement also", but wouldn't elaborate further....he simply told me to send in the notebook asap and Asus would repair it back to specifications, and to trust the "crew to fix the notebook" because they were all highly trained technicians at Asus in Fremont, CA 94538, which I already knew but it was nice to hear him say it, and it gave me confidence that the notebook would in fact be back to "new status" before long, a most welcome situation vs the way it was then, a miserable thing, at best!!

Surprisingly he said that they used OCCT to test video card compliance, post repairs, and in fact when I got my notebook back today there on my desktop was a folder called "OCCT Test Results", and in the folder was a sequence of the Memory VRAM tests that the technician had done, and the notebook had passed them, NO ERRORS AT ALL in six iterations of 10X tests! I was pleased to see those graphics, as you might imagine.

So the techs at Fremont are aware of and used the OCCT tests, and there was an obvious methodology of using the tests for me to see that the notebook, in fact had been repaired successfully, according to the OCCT tests-- I mean the folder wasn't left there by mistake...

That's the story of the OCCT tests and my notebook repair for the failed video board and associated parts, where I was left with a folder on my desktop which contained OCCT graphics tests that the notebook's new video card had passed ostensibly, and I was surprised to find that folder there for sure, but I guess my tech wanted me to be certain that things had been fixed and that the OCCT test showed it, too.

That's an ad for the DISPLAY of the computer, the 3D version, for $76, if that is what turns you on, that is what is being auctioned off BIN for $76US.

I don't see anything unusual about the ad, seems normal for eBay things, so what's the big deal all about? Did you think it was for the whole computer?
Think again...

I guess I just wonder why we should be worked up about it, that is all?

 

so, those are not "replacements" for our screens, to make it "3D?"
i dont get it, what am i missing

 

Hey Rex - I assume you sent your notebook back w/ the increased RAM in it (given they ran tests on it).

I'm debating whether or not to pull the extra RAM from my nb before sending it in for RMA. I haven't done it yet because I'm traveling next week and will need it while I'm gone (will use USB mouse in the meantime). I'll send it the day I get back from my trip.

Tx.

 

Mmm, I'll be running some tests on my GPU because, I find it really odd that I can't overclock the GPU,

So far I've done the memory test with 20 passes 0 errors, planning on doing the one hour stress test nxt, After school

 

Bad news:

I crashed the graphics driver (v258.96) on BIOS 206 using Pro/ENGINEER, a popular solid modeling program. I had just started a new part so it wasn't complex at all.

 

ALWAYS put your notebook back to OEM stock condition before sending it in to Asus for service, otherwise you risk two things:

1) Losing the extra's you send in

2) Asus attributing the problem you are having to the RAM, the HD, whatever it is that isn't OEM box stock.

3) Testing gets complicated when there are add-ons and different hardware than the manufacturer sold the notebook with, it's just unnecessary

I keep my OEM HD handy, and the 6GB of Kingston 1333Mhz RAM the same, and my OEM optical drive and WiFi cards too for that matter, and change them all out to OEM box stock configuration before I send my notebook in to Asus Tech Support. It just makes sense to do this, you know, not something that should be taken lightly either...I'd even recover your HD back to OEM box, stock configuration if you Clean Installed the OS if I were doing it otherwise, just to be safe.

My OEM HD IS Box stock, with the OEM FAT32 partition for Recovery, and the OS is untampered with, has only been used as-is from Asus, so it's a ready-made configuration for sending the notebook in other than the GraphiX Driver, which is updated to current version.

I know that the tech's appreciate getting a stock-configured notebook, because I've been in their position, and everything that is different from OEM means you have to account for it during any testing you to on the notebook, and that can get complicated! So by all means, put your notebook back to OEM configuration, take the extra RAM out of it, and anything else that is an add-on too, just to be safe, and logical about the whole deal. It will get fixed properly if you do that, and I cannot say the same if you leave it modified in any way.

Can't be done, cannot "make" our notebooks 3D by the addition of an LCD screen that is, by the way 1368 x 768 pixels not 1920 HD pixels size. The 3D designation is a hardware issue also, and you need certain other parts and pieces to make a G51JX-A1 into a 3D version, not just the LCD display.

You're not missing anything, just didn't understand the above, that is all...

To make the tests work for you, do the Memory Test in OCCT with the overclocking done to reasonable standards, for example run three tests as I did for mine: 1) 1800Mhz; 1900Mhz; and 2000Mhz - all separate tests and chart the graphics that OCCT generates, make JPEG's out of the GPU cycle graphic with Paint or any photo program or editor, then keep them handy if/when you need to send them in to Asus Service/Tech Support if you discover problems that need addressing, as I did.

Those graphics were the difference between an easy repair and a repair that didn't get done correctly, in my case, and they helped the Techs at Asus Support know what they should be concentrating on when they hardware tested my video card and associated components.

That isn't something to really worry about, it simply shows that the current driver you are using is weak in some area that the program needs it to be strong in, and it doesn't necessarily mean you have a graphics card or other issue with the hardware in your notebook. If I were you I'd test the card, memory, and CPU all with OCCT, then LinX 0.6.3, for the RAM in the machine, and see if there's anything else going on that does NOT involved the graphiX driver....as there often is, and those tests will point you in the right direction.

Good luck, and hope these comments helped everybody out today.

Now that I am back in the swing of the group I'll be more "advisory-oriented" since my notebook is back to 100% aok fine condition, with a bunch of new parts and pieces getting installed at my last service visit to Asus Tech Support in Fremont, CA 94538. :smile:

I cannot help but remind all of you here who might be experiencing issues with your computers that they are there for your benefit, and all you have to do to get help is be prepared with your evidence and symptoms of the problems when you call them up at the 1-888-678-3688 USA telephone number. Be patient and thorough with your communication, offer to send them in any records that you have from your System of the problem at hand, any graphiX you have handy too is always supportive and helpful for them to figure out if you need service or just advice.

In three (3) different visits there this year my computers have come back in stellar condition, with everything fixed/resolved/repaired 100% each time, so don't be afraid of them as it seems we are blessed with a very confident, and competent Asus Servce and Tech Support these days, a bunch of service techs and managers/Supervisors who know what they are doing with respect to repairing our notebooks to optimum condition when necessary. :yes:

I rank them right up there with AppleCare and Apple Support, which is No.1 in the service industry bar none, and that is saying a LOT about Asus Tech Support, and I do that after much soul-searching and reflection about how my repairs/fixes were handled, and making a rational judgement about the results in each case, and to a one I feel that they could not have been done better than they were repaired, each and every time. So Kudos to Asus Tech Support!

 

lawl, just to see things I tried overclocking again My Screen got Pink pixels this time and crashed xD
600,1600,2100
Now I need to restart -_-

Just for z I ran the OCCT GPU mem test right after i crashed the driver with overclock took 3 minutes for 1 pass loL!!!

Hey rex yu probably don't know why but why does my driver crash after overclock, tried different drivers and programs

 

Ideally Jack, you should be using overclocking in a constructive way, and slowly, surely creeping up from OEM stock settings to stable plateaus with each type of VRAM in your card, and achieving some measure of stability by doing that. When you simply arbitrarily pick the numbers that I threw out there because janvandongen wanted me to do a short piece on the EVGA Precision overclocking tool, and I very simply just picked some real big, round numbers for people to measure their VRAM against,well.... lo and behold he published my piece unexpurgated (as is, without any editing)!! Surprise!

I need to go back into that definition and show people an overclocker's technique and manner of achieving a stable overclock with a video card, because it's much like overclocking a CPU to derive settings that work for a given card. And each card is DIFFERENT than the others, there are no two cards that are identical any more than there are two CPU's that are identical, because to have identical VRAM or CPU transistors and functionality is theoretically impossible, and practically impossible, also! Impossible on both fronts!

There are no two CPU 's or sets of VRAM that work identically to each other, end of story, discussion moot point, that is an impossibility per se, as we say in the trade! So when you are picking 600, 1600, 2100Mhz on your card and throwing the card "to the wolves" of overclocking it's sort of like picking an arbitrary high artificial numerical sequence and gambling at Keno, or Mah Jong, or for an American card game the game "21" comes to mind as an appropriate topic, because that is pure chance, pure and simple chance with no measure of skill at the "card readings themselves"! It's nothing but chance, pure chance-- other than that quotient to pick three numbers that will come up in the deck of cards and seeing if you can beat the House, getting closer to "21" than they do with their 3-card pick, right? It's pure and simple chance, and that is what picking that 600, 1600, and 2100Mhz setting for a random video card is like, also! It just simply will NOT most likely work, in fact it's probably going to fail 99 out of 100 times, and succeed maybe once, or less than one time perhaps, but fail mostly it will!

I am going to re-write that section on Page No.1 about EVGA Precision and overclocking because it could be, maybe even IS, RESPONSIBLE for DAMAGING A FEW VIDEO CARDS!! Yes, it's true, picking a high overclocking like that out of the blue could be very, very BAD, BAD, BAD to the bone for many video cards, and it needs to be taken out of that page and overclocking needs to be explained for all the people who read that section of our guide because 600, 1600, 2100Mhz is not a really good place to start overclocking! It's bad, wrong, and I am writing janvandongen an email/PM just as soon as I am done with this post about changing that copy, and changing it IMMEDIATELY to something more reasonable, something that IS a good place to start overclocking the nVidia GTS-360M video board!

Any good overclocker will tell you it's really a bit of an "art form" to get an applicable and constant, good overclocking setup for a video card, that would be one card NOT ALL CARDS, just for one particular card, to get a good set of Mhz numbers that not only works for that card, but numbers that will always work for that card, as long as the VRAM stays viable, undamaged, and doesn't get abused and used excessively by the computer owner...so that is the goal, right? Any card has it's Golden Setting shall I call it, and that number set of Mhz for Core, Shader, and Memory Clocks is unique for that card, and that card ALONE, and it will generally be a good set of Mhz numbers that can be used anytime that the maximum performance potential of that card needs to be used.

It should be high enough to work well, where the card generates exceptional frame rates and an xlnt score in our standard tests for video game play, and that would be our 3DMark06/Vantage by Futuremark. The Futuremark scores should be a pretty good, as good as can be normally achieved for that one, particular card, a Mhz set of Core, Shader, and Memory Clock settings that works virtually every time, no matter what else is going on, no matter which game is being played, it's a setting that is the card's "Natural High Mhz Setting" that doesn't damage the card's VRAM at all, and extracts the maximum performance possible out of that particular card.

We're gonna call that group of settings "The Golden Setting" for a GTS-360M video board because that is our card of choice in the G51JX-series computers, they've all got that card, and it's unique to our notebooks, so The Golden Settings are achieved like this, and this is an example that is good for any card, come Hell or High Water, a way to figure out an appropriate overclocking for somebody's GTS-360M that gets xlnt frame rates, passes 3DMark06 and Vantage both with the maximum possible score for that computer and video card, and plays any game in an xlnt manner!

That's The Golden Setting we are going to figure out for a GTS-360M Video Card, anyone's card like that, so here goes how to get that Golden Setting down pat, safe, sound, and simple, ie it's the No.1 setting for the card where it works optimally, at its highest possible performance point in any game, test, or potential watermark application, such as Cad-Cam, etc whatever...this is the card's No.1 setting where it all just works fantastic!

We start with the Core Clock, and take the Shader and Memory Clocks upward also, but in a reasonable manner, nothing crazy, nothing that smacks of possible, potential damage to the video card's VRAM, and we do that by linking Shader and Core Clock together at first, and increase the Memory Clocks exponentially similarly to the other two's upward moves.

For example, with my GTS-360M I link Core/Shader Clocks and move the Core Clock to 575 Mhz, and where the stock, default setting for Memory is 1800Mhz I move that upward to 1875Mhz. So our 1st set in the search for the Golden Setting yields Core Clock/Shader/Memory clock settings of 575/1383/1875Mhz, that is where we start!

Got OCCT? Install Direct X 9.x.x.x? You gotta have those installed to check your settings before we go to 3DMark06, which also has to be installed in order for our system to generate a good Golden Setting for our video card, so I'm assuming that you have OCCT v3.1.0, and 3DMark06 installed with the Patch to enable correct System Info, which the first rendering of 3DMark06 lacks, so OCCT, 3DMark06 w/patch are both installed, right? Right!

Now we check our setting using OCCT's GPU Memtest, which we'll set up for 5 iterations, that is 5 passes of the OCCT stress test for the VRAM, to simply make certain that our VRAM is good at that setting and that we get NO ERRORS! That sequence just takes a couple minutes, so BAM! Do that, and if you get no errors we can proceed...did it, right? NO errors, right? OK, next step.

Next step is to unlink Core/Shader clock settings, and go upward pretty quickly. So click on the 'Link' button in EVGA Precision and unlink the Core/Shader clock settings. Done! OK, next select Shader clocks, and move the Shader setting up to 1575Mhz from 1383Mhz, so now our settings are 575/1575/1875Mhz. Run the OCCT GPU Memtest again after that, making sure there are NO ERRORS for 5 iterations, and once that is done we have our base settings, 575/1575/1875Mhz.

All GTS-360M video card will achieve this starting point, and that's why we check the memory out 100% at those two settings at first to rule out any defective memory! Now that it's down pat, we proceed.


Next step, test with 3DMark06...but FIRST REBOOT/RESTART the computer! This will yield your base setting for the standard Futuremark test sequence, so go to P4G Control Panel and turn on Extreme Turbo, close all other applications except Precision, Real Temp/Hardware Monitor if you are using them to keep track of temps, and CPU-Z where you are keeping track of the Mhz of the CPU, which should read 1696Mhz for all 4 Cores when you push the button and start the Futuremark test suite for 3DMark06!

Take a screen shot of the 3DMark06 browser window once you get your score, then Paste that into Paint, Crop it, Save the screen shot as a JPEG or BMP picture, your choice, so whatever your 1st score is for the benchmark SAVE IT!

I simply save mine to the Desktop until I'm done with my Golden Settings dialog and have my final settings for my card, whereupon I put all of the results in a new folder, I call it "Benchmarks"--you can call it what you like, I don't care, but save them all for future reference!

Next step, more Mhz for the video card! Increase the Core Clock 25Mhz to 600Mhz, Shader to 1600Mhz, and memory clock to 1900Mhz, so our next settings are 600/1600/1900Mhz for Core, Shader, and Memory Clocks. Test with OCCT Memtest to make sure there are NO ERRORS! 5 iterations again! After you finish the GPU Memtest in OCCT it's time to reboot the computer before testing again in 3DMark06.

That's right, a fresh boot for 3DMark06 is the way to test for that benchmark, not over and over testing without a break, as this resets the video card clocks to Default upon boot, then manually adjust them back to the 600/1600/1900Mhz before 3DMark06 test begins, for a fresh boot which insures performance is correct, and the score is good!

Do the same procedure again with your 3DMark06 score, ie Screen Shot (Alt/Print Screen command), paste into Paint, Crop, Save as JPEG/BMP your choice. Is the score better than the 1st test? It is? Good! So now you have a baseline of two scores for 3DMark06, right? Right!

Next it's time for more adjustments, and here is where you have to use your heads because things happen quickly, and results will speak for themselves in 3DMark06, and remember to REBOOT after the GPU Memtest in OCCT after each, successive Mhz increase, then test in 3DMark06 on the fresh boot. THIS INSURES TEST ACCURACY, and no "carryover" latencies from the OCCT Memtest to the 3DMark06 test sequence!!

Next move in Mhz you want to increase ONE VALUE AT A TIME, and patience is necessary for every adjustment from here on in, so don't rush things, take your time, following the sequence above for each successive 3DMark06 test, that is: 1) adjust Mhz 2) GPU Memtest in OCCT 3) REBOOT 4) Test fresh in 3DMark06 after the REBOOT to insure no latencies carry over from the OCCT testing!

That is how we achieve an accurate, solid, effective overclocking setting for our video card, our Golden Setting for each particular card, and there's only one, patient, careful way to do this exercise, so follow my lead above, check settings each time, write them down if necessary between runs, and here's how you adjust clocks following the 1st two baseline tests:

Core Clock Adjustments/Memory Clock Adjustments: adjust upward 5-10Mhz each separate adjustment, no more than that, preferably 5Mhz each adjustment, 10mhz Maximum each iteration! Or any number between 1-10Mhz!

Shader Clock Adjustments: After 1600Mhz adjust in increments of 5Mhz, no more than 5Mhz per iteration, less if necessary ie 1-4Mhz!

Next step is always test for errors with OCCT GPU Memtest, REBOOT, then 3DMark06 Fresh Boot Test! After the test check score with previous score in 3DMark06, is it higher or lower? If it's higher then continue to adjust upward Mhz 5-10Mhz each iteration until you hit the " plateau" or Mhz limit for a given card, the place where 3DMark 06 doesn't go any higher, that it in fact begins to drop.

If you adjust to 630/1625/1935Mhz for example, and the score is lower than the previous test @ 625/1625/1935Mhz then you have hit top Mhz in the Core Clock, at which point you can fine-tune Core Clock in increments of 1-2Mhz above 625Mhz to reach the optimum value between 625Mhz and 630Mhz for your particular video card!

THAT IS HOW YOU ACHIEVE MAXIMUM Mhz Golden Settings for any video card, and that is slow, steady Mhz increases upward IN EACH SEPARATE CATEGORY, Core, Shader, then Memory Clocks, until you hit the plateau where the score will not go higher, where it in fact DROPS vs the previous iteration, and eventually you arrive at the optimum value for your video card, The Golden Setting!!


THAT is the end of all that headache-making stuff, the restarts, testing for memory errors, testing for 3DMark06 high scores, and remember you will NOT succeed if you don't RESTART/REBOOT between GPU Memtest in OCCT and the 3DMark06 points test!!!

REBOOT BETWEEN ITERATIONS!

For instance with my new video board my maximum 3DMark06 points scored last night for my Golden Setting was 10,568 3DMArks (points) scored, @ 630/1620/1925MHZ, so my particular brand new video board has a very, very conservative ceiling on the Memory Clock settings, as when it was adjusted at higher Mhz than 1925Mhz nothing bad happened, but it scored LOWER in 3DMark06, and I pushed it a little twice to make certain, going as high as 1940Mhz and that test was even lower than 1935Mhz, so that is where my particular card likes to be set! Simple, yah? I think so!

If you are patient, do the REBOOT/RESTARTS between tests your tests will be accurate and you can depend on the scores. If you take short-cuts and don't do the GPU:Memtest in OCCT to check for errors first, maybe you will error out in 3DMark06 and not know it, OOOOPS! So that is why we check for errors at every single iteration. It only takes a couple minutes, and then you are sure and certain that the VRAM is not at its highest setting in terms of errors, however it MAY be at its highest setting for points scored in 3DMark06, but you will never know until you REBOOT/RESTART then do the test sequence!

REMEMBER, do each type of video memory SEPARATELY, do not combine Mhz increases in Core, Shader, and Memory, or decreases for that matter for fine-tuning your video card's maximum setting once you plateau the 3DMark06 score. Do NOT combine Mhz increases/decreases for testing because it will just get all screwed up, you'll forget where you were and what you were doing, and it won't make any sense if you don't test each, every single type of VRAM separately to achieve the Maximum Golden Setting for all three (3) types of VRAM!

Now isn't that easy, easy as pie ala mode? I think so!!!

If you follow that easy to do guide I assure you that you will find the Golden Setting for your particular video card, it might take awhile to do it carefully as above, but the settings will be good as gold bullion in the Spanish Galleon before it sank in the Bahamas! TAKE SCREEN SHOTS of your high scores once you start getting up above 10,000 3DMArks in 3DMark06, so you will NOT FORGET the scores, and file them in a Benchmarks Folder on the desktop, where you will have them for reference!!

I hope that this post teaches somebody how to overclock their video card, using either EVGA Precision 1.9.6+ or any good overclocking aid like MSI Afterburner (?), whatever you use-- do the above technique with it and BAM! You will achieve greatness, the video card will get its Golden Setting for when you want high scores in your favorite games, and you'll have done yourself a favor by logically, easily, and simply finding the REAL MHZ SETTING for your particular video card, the one that works best with it without over stressing the VRAM and burning it up eventually, the setting you can count on for using the best Mhz settings whenever you wish.

Use variations on that setting too, for example when you don't really need 100% of the video card's performance....ie just underclock it somewhat, so you can still be getting a nice, high score with your GTS-360M, but it won't stress the card to the maximum either...just a good, nice, even, better overclock than OEM stock, but not quite the highest that YOU KNOW the card can achieve, if necessary!

Good Luck overclocking your GTS-360M video card...the above is an example ONLY, you may have a card that will go much higher than mine, or it may overclock lower than mine does, they are all DIFFERENT! Just like people are different, there aren't two identical GTS-360M's on planet earth, each one is unique and the above guide will help you find its best setting, The Golden Setting!

rexrzer727 - October 15, 2010

 

this is not true
if you use LCD panel with 120hz 1366x768 and buy special glasses
no additional internal hardware is needed
everything is managed by nvidia drivers

 

Just want to share my overclock settings. It's at 618/1486/2000 and is extremely stable. I actually used higher settings last time for about 7 months or so until I started worrying about the temperatures. At the above setting, the max temperature ever reached is 96 degrees Celsius with a room temperature of 33 degrees Celsius (I know, it's extremely hot in Singapore!). It doesn't usually reach that temperature. Using 3DMark 06 only managed to bump it to around 89 degrees Celsius. Only extremely graphic-intensive games like GTA IV and Mafia II will make the card that hot. I'm the sort of person who can't stand running anything at less than the native screen resolution, and you know how much juice the laptop needs to run GTA IV at 1920x1080 and everything at least at High and Anisotropic Level at 16x! The only game that cannot run at that insane resolution even with the overclocked settings is F1 2010. I have no choice but to run it at a slightly lower resolution. Only slightly!

Instead of overclocking, I suggest we try to find some way to tweak the GPU to improve performance by adjusting some advanced settings on the GPU like I did using ATI Tray Tools with my old laptop that had a Mobility Radeon X2300. I got like 10FPS extra in most games by optimizing the graphics card. Wondering if there are similar programs for NVIDIA Graphics Cards.
Is that a good idea? Just my two cents!

 

Thats what i tought, in any desktop PC, for 3D you need a 3D capable TV/Monitor and a NVidia video card/glasses, then why isn't that a simple LCD change?

I know the panel is 768 and not 1080, but i'd really like to try 3D even if it is w/o full hd

 

Well that certainly clears things up, is that why my "Defection G51" could overclock to 600,1600,2100
its because each graphics card is unique? as to how high it can overclock?

 

Please cite your source for this statement, or collection of facts oneb1t...I think that everybody would be/should be curious about what you posted here considering that you don't own a Core i7-based G51JX-series notebook, and I doubt have access to one that you can disassemble, change the required parts of for to do/make this proposed "mod" that will change a base Core i7 laptop into a "3D capable laptop" with nVidia drivers and "special glasses"...thank you very much!

I searched and searched for this answer with limited time available, as I am working on something important on my desktop at this time and can't really get into this great, big question mark about 3D laptops, that you have challenged me about tonight.

Honestly, I have been told that a "3D" G51JX-A1 is a different homogulation of our laptops, based on a different set of internal specifications including the 3D LCD display @ 1368 x 768 pixels, some hardware bits and pieces, the required 3D glasses by nVidia, and drivers with the 3D software installed, by two different retail associates, and I am assuming that both of them knew what they were talking about, but I could be as could they be mistaken about the whole picture.

I have no idea about hardware differences and was merely reporting what I have been told by those two associates because a friend at work was interested in the 3D model until he found out that the LCD was only 1368 x 768 pixels resolution, not a full HD 3D display.

If oneb1t has a good, reliable source for his information on the 3D model of our laptop, then by all means I expect him to share the source of this knowledge with us, as he seems to have a wealth of insider info on all the models of our laptop, so kudos to oneb1t!

By no means do I have knowledge about every single laptop in our arsenal from Asus to the tune of 100% certainty about every single part and piece of each different laptop. For example I know very little about the model that oneb1t owns, other than that it has a ceiling of RAM of 4GB, the chassis/motherboard is a different series HM55 than the models with the Core i7 CPU and a 16GB RAM ceiling, and that's about it for that model...I know very little about it, don't even actually know about the CPU at all, what speed it is, its performance window and memory bandwidth capabilities with only 4GB RAM available, etc.

However, he seems to know a LOT about things of great significance with the various models of our laptop and it's always great for him to share that knowledge with us, especially about the esoteric things he delves into like the fan tweaks, and speed tweaks for the RPM's of the fans with various Registry hacks that he's tried and learned about etc.

So if I'm mistaken about the LCD and 3D capabilities of that model, and how it "gets there" from a standard Core i7-based laptop, I'd like to learn about that so I can have some knowledge that I didn't have before I asked him about it...so oneb1t bring it on about this 3D laptop deal, and share with us how you know about the 3D parts and pieces-- and how they work, and what sets the laptop apart from the Core i7 base model without the 3D capability, por favor!

My mind is always open for new data and information, and if the reps I talked to about the 3D model were mistaken, and I am mistaken, I'd certainly like to know the source of the "real info" on that model that oneb1t apparently has gathered somewhere, somehow, and qualify that (those) source(s) to back up what he posted tonight 100%, so thanks to him for the new data/info, but please tell us where and how you learned about these things, what the source is, and what specifics you can share with us about the whole picture of the 3D model Core i7 G51JX-A1 laptop.

Muchos gracias!

 

We'll never know the story about that "Defection G51" of yours, not the full story, because you never had a chance to perform this detailed, specific overclocking sequence on the video card, I assume, because it had so many *other problems* such as you recited them for us here in the forum when the anomalies were happening, Jack...but the short answer to your question is "Yes...that is absolutely correct!"

Each video card is unique-- but they all have a "range" where they can have their clocks adjusted. However, to a one every video card made is inherently different from its brother and sister cards made on the same assembly line even! I can point to my Core i7 CPU's in my desktops for a similar comparison, and believe me each one is TOTALLY different from the others, has totally different overclocking characteristics to a one, not one I can overclock identically to another one, it's just not possible.

True, they are all "DO"-series Core i7 920's, all made at the Costa Rica Intel CPU Assembly Plant, on different days each one in May, April, or June of 2009, but they are from the same place, and perhaps even from the same assembly rooms for CPU's there for that matter, but they could not be more different than they are, each, to a one! The motherboards are also different, even though they are all EVGA Classified BL-141-E760-boards, each board has adjustments that ostensibly do the same things... but they, too, are each different from one another!

It's like everything that is electronic has its own "signature" you know? It's true that they are the same models, the cards, the video boards, the motherboards, and the CPU's, but each is an individual and has to be treated as an individual to have success with adjustments on any of them. Any one of them can be adjusted similarly, but still they are all slightly different in potential, in fact in physical dimensions they are the same but unequal even-- with tolerances being such as they are in the industry as a whole, they are similar! However, if you were to measure each one with a digital micrometer the sizes would be all slightly, ever-so-slightly, different!

My twins/pair of EVGA GTX-285 SuperClocked 1GB DDR5 Video Cards are within 14 numerical sequence numbers of being identical cards, also, and they each adjust slightly differently when I treat them as single cards on the motherboard/computer, as I have documented this fact over and over with them...but as twins in SLI on the board, I have to adjust them IDENTICALLY with EVGA Precision, as it treats them as a single card in SLI, so they get adjusted the same, but each card REACTS slightly differently than the other...but they are close enough that they can be called "electronic twins" in my Control Panel and I treat them as a single entity for overclocking in games and testing, so go figure all that out, and we can all sleep better tonight, Hah-Hah! :laugh: :laugh:

Isn't the science of overclocking amazing? And complex, too! Each time I have everything figured out "perfectly" with a given CPU/GPU it will surprise me, and I'll have to change something important, trust me that's normal life with an overclocked computer, because I "live" with 3 (three) of them, and each one is so different from the others that I could easily write a book about the different facts of the matter to that statement, and yet they are all basically made from the same manufacturer's parts, bought piece by piece by yours truly, and hand assembled here in my studio and/or garage, matched, tested, and slowly but surely overclocked to run @ 4210Mhz each one, but the settings to GET THERE and KEEP THEM THERE, each one, are fairly different, CPU to CPU, motherboard to motherboard, video card to video card...it's so confusing that I have to literally keep a book on each desktop and write down my changes and adjustments to a one, or I'd be losing my mind over all of it! Hah Hah Hah!

You know I just finished assembling and sending Down Under to Melbourne, Australia, my partner sassimac's G51JX-A1... errr X5... notebook computer, and ostensibly it is a duplicate but for the colors of course, to the "Blue Blaze" computer that sits behind me here in my studio while I work on my PC desktop tonight. I'm taking a little break to write these words while some HD movie footage renders in Sony Vegas, but yes, but for the colors of the laptops I had two distiinctly similar laptops here with identical components/component groups, as his got the same things you see in my signature, identical components. But man, when it came time to tune his video card optimally I had to throw away the "book" that I keep on Blue Blaze's video board, in fact I just started a new book on the replacement GTS-360M that is in there now after the trip to Asus Tech Support in Fremont, CA 94538.

Anyway, my adjustments for the video cards are so diabolically different that I could hardly believe it, and yet when it comes to scoring in PC Mark Vantage and 3DMark06 by FutureMark Corporation, the standard by which we judge and tune the video cards in a general sense, they were within 35 3DMarks of one another in that utility, and 125 points in Vantage, after all was said and done, and I was satisfied with the tuning on each, separate card. But oh MY! How different those tuning adjustments are, in fact, like WHOOOAAAH, BABY! His GTS-360M didn't like some things that my new video card does, and vice versa, and they could NOT be adjusted similarly at all...totally different adjustments had to be achieved for each card to get them to play games well, have high frame rates, and score highly in both Vantage and 3DMark06 both...it was insane, the differences between them, just crazy to the max! :rolleyes2:

So once again my theory about video cards, and CPU's for that matter, proved to be the case: they may be the same model, but each, and every video card overclocks, adjusts totally differently than another of the same model, period period period, end of story! (...!) Well, it's back to work now as my video is finishing up in Sony Vegas, and next is Pinnacle Studio for the sound track, so I'll be busy and up for several more hours here getting this HDTV short right for publication, and to my liking besides, thus I'll bid you all good night from Southern California.

Take my lesson about the video cards to heart guys and gals, if any, and remember that your card is night and day different from the other guy's or gal's card, and that's an indelible fact of this electronic world that we live in today, and it won't be changing anytime soon! My guide is a good one, I'm sort of proud of writing it out today so you'd all have something like that to help you tune your video boards: it does work, it applies to each and every GTS-360M video card that is out there in Asus Land, so use it, and good luck tuning up and overclocking your video cards...I hope that I've made the task seem more logical and easier to do by giving you the specific tools, a "how to do it" scenario that I guarantee will work for you. :yes: :yes: :yes:

Have a great weekend, all of you!! I wrote those words to make sure that you all had a starting point to get your overclock "right as rain" for each and every video card called a GTS-360M (Asus) by nVidia, so have at it, have some fun in fact at it, and good luck as I want you all to be able to maximize your use of your computer's video arsenal, because it's a great card and there's a lot of potential for enjoyment without having to "hurt" the cards by overclocking them too far, just going hog-wild on an overclock setting and literally ruining the card, forever, and having to send it in to Asus for replacement at some point.

Take it to the limit, but don't go over it, for God's sake, because you'll have Hell to pay for such a transgression or mistake, and we don't need that to happen as there's no reason for it in the 1st place.

 

Oh Dam!

I think i just found how to overvolt/clock the CPU!!!

I cant test right now, because im super busy just please someone check it out!

1) Download Crystal CPUID
2) Start it up, go to the file menu and go to “Multiplier Management Setting”

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt273/TevashSzat/Asus G51 Guide/MultiplierManagementSetting.jpg

3) Click on “Enable Voltage,” ignore any warning and change the voltage as your see fit.

Source: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/401345-optimization-guide-asus-g51.html

Some other useful links worth looking at:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/405231-analysis-asus-g51s-temperature-issues.html <-- to do with heat, although is solved because of rw-everything

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/411871-asus-g51-cooling-mod.html

 

How do you manage to get GTA IV to work maxed without the jumping or jittering that I get while driving or running around town. The most frustrating piece about the game. Im not in about how poorly optimised or coded or anything like that, I just want it to be maxed too

How do you do it? Is it purely from the overclock with turbo mode enabled?
What do you have your gfx settings at? The only way i can get it useable is too really turn down view distance and detail distance, also shadows and water.

Edit:

Also different note and question which Rex might know. Remember throttlestop? I think I have finally managed to cause my G51 throttle my cpu when performing the OCCT power supply test which stresses both the gpu and cpu simultaneously. Was it throttlestop that disabled this feature? Im only wondering because this could be the issue causing my jittering issue with GTA IV.

 

What I do to play GTA IV is to first enable Extreme Turbo, overclock the GPU to 618/1486/2000, turn off throttling using Toggle1FC and that's about it! Remember, do not update the game past v1.0.4.0 as any versions higher makes the game unplayable for some reason due to the microstuttering. I can't play TBoGT and TLaD well because of all those stupid bugs that Rockstar can't be bothered to fix. Ok, shadows was turned to medium to improve framerates. All the slider settings were around 42 except for traffic density at around 36 or so. That's not that maxed out but it's still quite good!
But the temps are extremely high at 96 degrees Celsius when playing GTA IV here, even if I use the 100% fan hack. No difference in Max temps, but I don't know about the average.

@PrivateReid, can you please test that undervolt claim thing please!? It would be absolutely amazing if we could undervolt the CPU to keep temps down. It would be even better if we discover that the CPU can run at Extreme Turbo settings even with a lower voltage than stock!

@PrivateReid, would you kindly point me to the page where I can re-download the 100% fan hack file. I can't seem to find it using the Thread search tool. Thanks!

 

What d o you mean, microstutter? I have my GTA IV patches to full with both expansions, and I don't get any stutters.... I don't even overclock my GPU or go into Turbo

 

Learn About NVIDIA 3D Vision
there is no difference between 3d and non 3d-lcd panel except refresh rate
so if you change 60hz panel for 120hz (or buy external HDMI LCD with 120hz) from this list
3D Vision Requirements
you can use 3d vision without any problems

 

Honestly, I would recommend you watch a 3D TV in a store for a few seconds before you put any money into making your laptop 3D. I did and let's just say if I had the option to tack it onto my current rig for $40 when I bought it, I probably would've kept my money.

 

Can your computer run NVIDIA GeForce 3D Vision?

If you use this particular nVidia tool to analyze your G51JX computer it finds that the computer is incompatible for nVidia 3D Vision but for one item, the LCD monitor! Everything else passes, so oneb1t was correct in his post about 3D Vision being a function of an appropriate hardware setup, such as in our laptops, and an HD 3D display of some sort, including the add-on 3D display that was an Au Optronics 1368x768 pixels display for this computer on eBay.

Kudos to oneb1t, great post, and now we all know for sure that our notebooks qualify for nVidia 3D vision with the glasses, and an external or internal 3D-capable monitor or LCD display, end of story! Great Stuff! You learn something new every day, and I'd like to thank him for posting that correction to my post about the 3D LCD display that somebody asked about.

I think the obvious thing to do with our situation would be to *NOT* change the LCD out, but rather score a 120Hz 3D display for external use, preferably an HDMI so it would be BluRay compatible for sound AND video, and BAM! You're got an HDTV display that is 3D with the glasses and the monitor/display!

I think that is exciting news, and I'll be exploring that possibility myself later on in the year, when I can secure some financing for an HDTV 3D 120Hz display of some sort, with HDMI hookup to go directly to this laptop! Then I'll score the glasses from nVidia and I'll be all set to experience a BluRay 3D movie or game in 3D on this very computer, as is! KUHL!

 

From request:

The link is there, as for undervolting, I'll have to wait till the weekend, I have exams coming up

 

Thanks PrivateReid, but can you locate the 100% speed hack file. There was a file that can be opened with that software and it will automatically load the values.

 

Hey everyone...
Thanks for all the info you wrote around here - been very helpful as i reinstall both W7 + ubuntu lately...

I tried to contact ASUS tec support about something quite annoying:
While reinstalling all different types of OS - i used my SD card A LOT as OS bootable device.
Then annoying part is that i have to use EXTERNAL cardreader in order to boot to the SD - the intergral cardreader just does not listed in the boot selection menu ( F2 during POST ).
I'm sure that my SD is 100% OK/working + bootable - just not with the integral cardreader.

Do you ppl can boot / see anything about that cardreader while at the boot selection menu ?
I know there's nothing in the BIOS to change about that...

I'll appreciate the reports....

p.s - not sure yet how to enable my signature... but of course I have G51JX-A1 ( with 8GB ram + BlueRay )

 

@nfshp253

After a quick search I found it in the depths of my laptop.

It's attached. Enjoy

 

Thanks very much PrivateReid! And good luck for your exams. My big exams lasting for 3 weeks is just a week away! GSCE "O" Levels, here I come!

 

internal cardreader cant boot from SD card (there is no option for this in bios)
so im using my N79 phone and USB cable for SD Card boot

maybe we can try to send ASUS request for card reader boot option

 

I allready tried to contact ASUS about that, that's their answer:
"For this status, I suggest you to contact our local service center in your country for help. I suggest you call them in advance for an appointment so that you can save your precious time.".... really helpful - can't live without them.

what's the point in buying ~$1400 laptop if it can't do what a $300 laptop can ??

Is there any way one of us can contact someone within ASUS that might influence the developers to include support for integral-card-reader boot ?

 

i hate asus for BIOS options on their notebook
this is one of best ASUS models but every single alienware or clevo using better BIOS

 

I think I have a lazy card, that doesn't want to overwork itself,
I got 48 erros on 5 pass 575/1383/1875Mhz

I got 0 errors on 6 passes 560/1347/1850Mhz

Second Test: 20 Errors 2 Passes 575/1383/1875Mhz
1 Error 6 Passes 565/1359/1855Mhz
1 Error 6 Passes 565/1359/1850Mhz

It would seem 560/1347/1850Mhz is as high as I can go lawlz
3DMark Score 9674 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4098
SM 3.0 Score 4059
CPU Score 2999
Not Turbo, or Extreme Turbo will do nxt time
9798 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4111
SM 3.0 Score 4067
CPU Score 3174
EXxtreme Turbo
All test get up to 80-82 degrees C

 

use something for temperature monitoring and make another run (and post results)
maybe we can help you a little bit with overclock

EDIT:try to overclock only GPU/SHADERS/MEMORY
not all 3 at same time

 

Will try, but I don't have the time to play with it right now...
In the middle of networking lecture.... static router, dynamic routing.... booo

 

NVIDIA DRIVERS 189.79

working? not at home... anyone tried?

 

Excuse me pal, but that update is for OPTIMUS not notebook drivers like ours, if I am reading the espanol correctly!

Get on the correct page, and this is IT here:

NVIDIA DRIVERS 260.89 WHQL

Enjoy! It's the Verde release of the BETA drivers I have been using for 2 weeks, make that a month, since my notebook was in the shop for 2 weeks+...

THAT is the page you want to be on, NOT Optimus...

 

Why use the old driver when you can use a newer one? I believe I'm using the 258.96 with no problems. Even got my HDMI to work after updating it. Rex also advocates the 260.xx beta drivers for improved or at least more stable perfomance

 

I am ecstatic about the new 260.89 WHQL nVidia drivers, and my brand new video card which tonight, with stock clocks hit a nice, clean 10,121 3DMarks, a very credible score for a fresh video card, and brand new driver just released today...and not being one to mess with Providence when the situation is good I am going to leave my setting "as-is" and go play a couple of my favorite games, 3D Ultra Pinball and GTA:IV, along with a little COD:WAW that I just tonight patched with the latest new scenes and extras, so it should be fun.

Thank you Asus, nVidia, for making a great notebook even better, it's appreciated by yours truly a whole lot!

EDIT: for those with sharp eyes, you might note that my memory configuration is back to OEM stock, as I just RMA'd my Corsair 2 x 4GB SODIMMs to Corsair for replacement. I was getting errors during games and OCCT/LinX (all 3 situations) which, after discussion with Corsair Tech, attributed to the Corsair RAM. With stock RAM setup=no errors and nominal results.

The RAM will be replaced with "tested, proven good, and new RAM" direct from Corsair's Taiwan, China factory, direct shipped to me upon receipt of the defective SODIMMs, according to my rep at Corsair. I should be back to the 12GB RAM setup by the end of this week, according to Corsair Tech Support. Thanks, Corsair! I look forward to the new RAM arriving soon...

 

HEy rex what would you say the average 3DMark is for our laptop?
Edit: Have you tried VirutalMark? from futuremark, its pretty good, can get a good estimate in a few seconds of your systms score (9600) no overclocked or turbo
Edit: My overclock settings crashed my driver half way through LoL game, I am confined to default settings "To bad" it would seem with my inability to overlock my gpu, i will never reach 10,000 score on this laptop

 

Finally got my G51J (Not Jx, so with a GTX260m \o/) but i'm very disappointed for one thing...

It appears we (you and me) can NOT use nvflash nor nibitor to change the voltages in the card's bios... =(

I did that on a my G50vt before, it was awesome, i had my 9800gs overclocked more than a 9800gts and voltage reduced to 0.82v so gpu never hit more than 76°c on furmark...

Now my GTX260 can go more than 100°c on furmark and I don't like it... ><

 

i pasted the wrong address... my bad

NEW LCD ASUS G51J G51J-A1 G51J3D 15.6 WXGA GLOSSY LED - eBay (item 320524416490 end time Oct-25-10 14:23:41 PDT)

So, anyone willing to try this? I think i'll order one G51J3D and try