Asus G51Jx Owners Lounge

I'm planning to purchase a Asus G51JX real soon. But i still cant decide whether to get the one with 720qm or 820qm.

820qm cost about $300 more than 720qm.

Is the significant different with those two? Worth getting the 820qm?

Really appreciate some replies Thanks

 

how, would you like your battery life?

2 hours
or
2 minutes?

 

what do you mean?

 

The 820 will drain your battery faster than the 720 does

here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...ore-i7-720qm-vs-core-i7-820qm-benchmarks.html is a comparison between the CPU's.

I say go for the 720: better battery life, much better performance for price, less heat (most likely).

The 820 is a overkill.

 

Alright thanks. Well, still kinda hesitating.

 

What are you hesitating with?

The Asus G51Jx is a wonderful laptop. I say, go for it and you won't be disappointed. Did you have any other laptops in mind, other than the G51?

 

I bought my G51jx about 3 months ago. I got the i5 version.

I also bought a 2tb Toshiba external hdd that was working fine in the machine until about 4 days ago. My PC no longer reads it... Not in my computer, disk management or BIOS.

It works fine on my dad's windows xp laptop. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

I have an iomega 1.5tb that works fine but my 2tb won't read on the machine...

 

I'm still deciding whether to take the one with 720 or 820. I dont want to buy something that is gonna be obsolete in like a few months time. But 820 cost abt 300 more. not sure if its worth it.

 

I'd say the xtra speed you get with the 820, isn't worth the bucks, stick with the 720, its what I have and it runs great

 

Sorry if this has been answered already. I've done a lot of research but still no luck.

I'm having trouble with HDMI output to my LG tv. I use the cable and tv regularly for my PS3 and I thought it would just be PnP to my G51JX but the laptop won't detect it.

I've tried fn+F8, windows+p, and forcing the nVidia to detect the tv and rebooting. Failed in everything.

I'm running stock drivers (ForceWare 187.66) at the moment because I haven't had any trouble with BSODs and such. People keep telling me to update but with all the talk I see in the forums about bricking and unstable drivers, I'm really hesitant. Is there a way to update the HDMI drivers without updating all the gpu drivers?

Thanks in advance!

 

I will suggest you get the 720 just to make sure the computer you purchase is NOT 1000x better than mine.

 

I to have had this problem, so you are not alone, except mine is the other way around, my Laptop detects that its hooked into my Samsung but the TV does not detect. My suggestion is to review some of the last 20 posts, I believe some of the TV issues are in there...

I've also come to the decision that some cables plain well are not good for a computer to tv connection, so you should do some research of some cables, and get confirmation that they work for laptop and tv connections and buy another one...

 

Trust me Clarencerx, The Asus G51jx-A1 is already obsolete.
I'd say *Save* & go for the NEW G53 or the G73
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Yer, but the G53's are ugly. just look at them, the battery sticking out the back has always been a sore point with me, EDIT: wait? is that even the battery? or is that more motherboard??. (and you can only have a max of 8GB of ram)

 

I found some useful modification info here:

Stuffopolis.net Forums: Review: G51JX-A1 Review

Including:


Reported 10-deg C temp drop

 

EDIT: I forgot to mention "OMG for that first picture"

I'm thinking of filing off those tabs on the bottom (the one which make it easier to open the case), they hurt when the laptop's on my knee's. (Which is rarely, but I don't see the need for them, a small flat headed screwdriver will have the same effect, and how often do you open up the case anyway...)

<del>2nd note: The 480 is depressingly good compared to our 360's, haha.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M - Notebookcheck.net Tech</del>

Scrap all that, im wrong.

 

AbAce might be right in some sense of the word "obsolete", but as far as intrinsically speaking the G51JX-A1 is not at all obsolete, in fact I am going to call it far from that in all respects. The "new" G53 laptop is going to be coming in with a 1368 x 768 pixels LCD display instead of the present 1920 x 1080 Full HD display, so that is a big downer for the model as far as I can see vs the present model. You will have to go to the big, heavy, and most certainly ungainly G73JW-series to gain a 1920 x 1080 LCD display this coming year, and that is a choice that makes this year's G51JX model very, very desirable at this point. :smile:

Maybe Asus will "see the light" and produce a model with a 1920 x 1080 LCD display in the 15.6" chassis as time goes on, but as of right now that is NOT the case, and I doubt that many who prefer the smaller chassis vs the 17" chassis are going to be changing their outlook and be getting a G73JW-series notebook, as it's just too big, too large for most tastes, it is impossible to transport in a backpack or case easily, and it weighs almost 9 pounds for Christ sake! Holy Toleeedo that is a BIG laptop!

I see that Amazon.com has *raised the price* of their remaining G51JX-A1 notebooks to almost $1700 for example, also! B&H Photo Video & Pro Audio did have their price on the G51JX-X5 model (the brown one) down to $1249 as of last weekend, and they were the "price leader" at that time, but now they have raised their price to $1279, and look for it to go even higher as their stock dwindles down to a few units left. Many people are apparently seeing the "light on the wall" about the new G53JW and are scoring the remaining few G51JX's quickly, and quietly, and without much fanfare.

I talked to the online sales manager at B&H, his name is "Ari" on Monday prior to ordering a new G51JX-X5 for one of my business associates in Australia, and he confided to me that they are selling quite a few G51's of *both varieties* (both G51JX-A1 and X5) every day now, as things have "picked up a lot" in terms of demand and sales of the laptops as the model year change-over becomes reality quickly. "These are a great value right now" Ari told me on the phone, "and people are buying them much faster than we anticipated" they would be, he went on..."we expect to sell out the remaining stock in a week or two, and there will be no more from Asus...we have exhausted their inventory of 2010 models and that will be it for this model year."

I asked him if he knew when they would be getting their first shipment of the new G53JW 2011 computers and he didn't know, or wouldn't confide that info to me in any case. "Look for a very short supply of those computers until January/February", he said, and even then Asus production wouldn't really start ramping up until later in the year, much like this year.

That's the story about this coming year's model from B&H Photo Video, and if Asus decides to make a 1920 x 1080 full HD display instead of the 720P display of 1368 x 768 pixels on the G53JW model there will be a lot of surprised people in retail, apparently, and that alone makes the present models G51JX-A1/X5 just that much more desirable to people who want a full HD display in their 15" laptops. It's doubtful that those people will/could be switched over to the G73JW-series because that is such a HUGE computer, a real desktop replacement setup vs the much more portable G51/53-series size of less than 16" chassis with weight of just more than 7 pounds, a size that is much more easily accommodated in terms of mobility and carrying weight.

My business partner in Australia is having me configure his G51JX-X5-series notebook EXACTLY like mine is done, with the Sony Optiarc 5730S BluRay optical drive, 12GB RAM, Intel 6300 WiFi Card, and the OCZ 120GB Vertex 2 SSD with a Clean Install of the Asus 64-bit Home Premium Windows 7 client too, so it's going to be fun for me to set his up exactly like mine is set up! I got everything ordered yesterday, and it should all be here by Fridiay, so I will make it my "weekend project" to get his notebook all buttoned up and ready to ship Down Under on Monday the 11th...of course he is going a little bit crazy waiting for me to get it all together for him, as you can imagine!

I think he's really going to love the new laptop, configured just like mine is with the same extras and options I've got, and then again he's got me doing all the configuring also, so it's bound to be done 100% right, don't you think?
Hah-Hah! I will be having "some fun" doing it this weekend, this is certain, and I really look forward to hearing his comments once he receives the package!

It will be traveling a long, long way from SoCalifornia to Melbourne, Australia, but with USPS shipping it will still be saving him a TON of $$'s vs. buying the same stuff Down Under, so he's really benefiting two different ways: he's getting a great deal, and he's getting the full HD display in the 15.6" chassis, exactly what he was looking for, and the whole reason he went for such a computer vs buying the new G53JW-A1-X5 when they finally get here in the States.

 

Dear PrivateReid:

The nVidia 480M is NOT coming in the Asus G53JW-it gets the
nVidia 460M!!! That is a HUGE difference, my man, so please don't
get yourself all in a dither about something that isn't going to be
happening...the new notebooks get 460M NOT 480M!!

If they were getting the 480M I'd be saving up my $$$'s right about
now and getting one ASAP, but the 460M is not anything close to the
480M, not even in the same neighborhood....check out the stats:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

Did you know you made that little mistake, were you trying to compare the
480M to the 360M on purpose? What for? Hah-Hah! I can't figure out why...?

Later, Rex

 

Kibble Fat---you do know you are sourcing info about the PREVIOUS MODEL TO THIS ONE, right?

You posted pictures of the G51J model, NOT the G51JX model!

Are you going to cut up your notebook like that just to cool it down? Hah-Hah! INCREDIBLE!

What is the point of all this modification anyway, since this pretty much destroys the aesthetic value of the computer 100%...????

WHAT are you trying to do anyway, just bend our ears and eyes with technical stuff that doesn't even apply to this model, or what? I cannot figure out what you are trying to accomplish, given the limitations of the model you bought anyway...

 

Hi Rex,

I was wondering if your Logitech V470 BlueTooth Mouse randomly disconnects from the G51JX. I used the default windows drivers and SetPoint (4.2b5 and latest) and they all disconnect randomly. Using the connect button on the bottom of the mouse does not help.

I also hate how the mouse goes to sleep after just a few seconds in an effort to save battery. The bad thing is that this causes the cursor to be jumpy. Any suggestions for this as well?

Thanks,

Lem

 

OH! HAHAHA. Your right! Phew, I feel a lot better about my G51 now

I've scraped my last post.

No, that is the G51Jx. It doesn't have two HDD's. Look on the back of yours, the name is still "Asus G51J", with no "x".

 

It's NOT the mouse, it's your BlueTooth that is frucking things up badly...

Do yourself a favor, and update your BlueTooth to v2.1 EDR+ BlueTooth, because I have a feeling that it isn't fully updated. Can you run Microsoft Update on your computer client, and search for Non-Microsoft drivers please?

If you do that I think that you will find you do not have the latest version of the Broadcomm BT Drivers, and that BlueTooth itself is v2.x non EDR BT...I have seen this happen before and that was the exact culprit!

To answer your questions, NO, my mouse does NOT disconnect from the laptop at all, not ever, even after shutting it down completely on a cold boot my laptop and the BT mouse connect INSTANTLY, and it's because I have the same Logitech driver setup that you do, but my BT is the latest version of BT with the latest BroadComm drivers, v2.1 EDR+ BlueTooth.

If you doubt me, please prove me wrong by going into Device Manager, Click on the BroadComm BT Drivers>Properties>Version and see if the BT is "BlueTooth 2.1EDR+" or is it something else? I'll betcha you do NOT have the latest Broadcomm drivers or BlueTooth Drivers from Microsoft either!

I use a utility called Driver Magician to verify all my drivers apart from Asus and Microsoft updates, and that also will update your BlueTooth to the latest version from Broadcomm and Microsoft to v2.1 EDR+, which I am 99% convinced even without looking at your System that you don't have...so of course your BT will disconnect and go to sleep, even if you practice the tips that I gave you the last time I posted about this issue of yours.

Did you get those tips already, and apply them? And you're still getting disconnections, aren't you? Right! The reason is as above, trust me it is, I can feel it happening, don't even have to look at Device Manager in your System, because you are giving me the exact symptoms of BT that has NOT been updated fully! That will do such things every time, and it's very frustrating when it does happen, because it should not be happening.

And it will STOP HAPPENING once you update your BT drivers and Broadcomm drivers to the latest v2.1 EDR+ drivers!

If the above doesn't help then I do not know what to do to help your BT problem resolve, because that is what I was thinking about when you gave me the symptoms of your problem currently....sounds exactly like the BT drivers for Broadcomm and Microsoft have NOT BEEN UPDATED FULLY to the latest and greatest version which is v2.1 EDR+...

Check in Device Manager and see if I'm correct or not! If I am, you need to update and all these problems will just freakin' VANISH completely...

Good Luck, and yes, it should NOT be like it is in your case...should be seamless application of BT drivers and mouse drivers with the Microsoft BlueTooth Enumerator working 100% of the time, always, no disconnects, none of that should be happening at all!

 

I didn't mean the 1st picture...it's the 2nd picture!!

The 2nd picture is of the G51J model, the one with the sub-woofer port on the bottom just like that computer with the sub-woofer mod done to it. I KNOW that the 1st picture is a G51JX, just like you wrote because it doesn't have 2 HD's, that is obvious...but the 2nd picture is of the G51J with the sub-woofer port mod done to it...THAT is what I mean, sorry about that!

And yeah, I wondered what you were thinkin' about having a 480M in the new model, LOL! Hah-Hah! That would be a REAL battery drainer, Holy smokes!!!

I can't imagine any laptop having that type of a video card setup because it would be causing terminal heat problems, and it wouldn't stop there...

Later, Rex

 

The undercarriage panels of the G51J and G51JX models are perfectly interchangeable. The mod in the first picture is WAY to extreme for most people including me. I just posted it because it might get more people to click the link because I think there's a good amount of quality info over there even in just 15 pages.

Allow me to explain my obsession with cooling, Rex, since you obviously think I'm a nut case.

1) My goal is to get the most out of a product I spent a considerable amount of money on, especially since I'm still a student.

2) I would like to do so without voiding the warrantee

3) In order to accomplish this (the way I see it at least) overclocking is the best and easiest way. In order to prolong the life of an overclocked CPU/GPU cooling should be improved. I basically want to deal with the cooling issues before I even touch overclocking. And I want to stress that it can be done! I will talk to my brother who's getting a CS degree about changing the fan speed profiles through the BIOS or wherever they are.

4) I don't see why I shouldn't have some fun playing with my new toy... consumer goods are rarely even close to perfect out of the box and to me this means there are many possible ways to make it better. Look at any motorsport enthusiast's or serious driver's car. Is it stock? Hell no! Is it better than stock? Maybe, maybe not. Does its setup suit the driver better? Absolutely! This is what I'm getting at.

If you're OK with the performance of your laptop, then great! Let others experiment... And once a stable, well documented solution is posted here, you might find yourself doing it. The point is to not put others down for trying. Curiosity and experimentation is what drives human progress after all.

It would be one thing if you were looking out for the safety of my computer, but I think what I'm aiming for isn't quite in the realm of component-bricking.


Get my drift? Or do I have to rant some more... ?

 

i think Kibble Fat posted g51jx because of upgraded cooler (there is aluminium which is beed added in g51Jx and two heatpipes for CPU)

 

Also, aesthetic value is in the eye of the beholder

 

First, I LOL'D @ the car photo.
But then again after reading Kibble Fat's last reply & seeing those picture I thought to myself hmmm...may be Kibble Fat is a successful troll.
That car is really outrageous like REALLY RIDICULOUS & please don't mod the G51jx to resemble that "winking car"


Back to my point Rex, I'm 100% sure that Asus would not move backward. Meaning, the G53jw with it's 'Fermi' GTS 460 WILL NOT ship without having a Full HD display, 'other' changes are the replacement of that "blingy" lid :/ which is a nice thing to have (because I know some people who duck tape those lid lights when in public) the eSATA still exists on the G53jx & is still absent on the G73jw still puzzling don't you say?!
Anyway, I still think these two 'NEW' products are a step forward for Asus's gaming lines.

 

And trust me, I am having severe trouble waiting for it....!!!!

 

Hi Rex,

Thank you for taking the time to help me. I checked the drivers in Device Manager and the Broadcom and Microsoft drivers appear to be up-to-date. I downloaded the latest BlueTooth drivers from Broadcom and driver version remained the same after install. I chose driver update option for the Microsoft driver and it said it was up-to-date.

Would BIOS version have anything to do with it? I am using 208. I know 206 is golden for you, but since I haven't encountered any BSOD or other major issues I have not downgraded. Or, maybe I just got a bad mouse.

BTW, I don't doubt anything you say. I do appreciate your time and sharing your knowledge.

Thanks,

Lem51

 

Well look who came to the party! Hah-Hah!

Let me introduce my partner Sassimac to the group here since he didn't do it himself, and I feel an obligation to because he's put so much trust in me to configure his new laptop EXACTLY like mine is done, and besides...he's a KUHL dude, and you all will enjoy his humor and incisive comments as things get going here and he participates more in the discussions.

Sassimac is from Down Under Land, in the Melbourne area to be exact, and he works for a major Brand Name industrial giant of a company as their Head Trainer, or "Traumatizer" as I call it, for some 20+ years or so...and he's just full of the Devil, so to speak!

This is his 1st PC laptop of his own in many a year, although he has use of a new company PC laptop every year for his job, but this adventure in PC Land and Asus Territory is at my behest, as I have cajoled and ranted and raved at him for not having such a wonderful machine as this for the longest of times...and finally, finally he sprung for the bait and decided to get one of the last of its kind while the sales were still "Red Hot" here in the USA, and that's pretty much all there is to the tale of how he came to be a member here at notebookreview.com...the rest I'll let him confide in with you all as time goes on.

I will tell you that he's got nothing but Macs at home, from his Mac Mini Server to his MacBook Pro 17" laptop, and plenty of things like AppleTV's up the Ying Yang for entertainment and media fun, so try and be easy on his arse at first until he gets used to our brands of humor and embarrassment and Funz, ok? After this intro he's on his own, and I probably said too much like I always do-- but that's the price of having me as a best pal and business associate, Hah! :wink:

As for the rest of you, you know I really don't give a hoot about whether you're a member here for this or that reason, and to each his own you know that? Kibble Fat I don't think you're a nut case at all, just a little bit obsessed with and by this "cooling deal" that you've got going on and more power to you! Go for it, for God's sake! If you want to inundate us with crazy pictures and art and automobiles from Hell's Half Acre that's fine and dandy, you are more than obliged to do whatever you want with your posts here...it's all Good, you know that? I don't discriminate against or for any particular outlook or viewpoint as far as our notebooks go, and if people want to do crazy things with respect to cooling or overclocking (oneb1t comes to mind there!), then that's all well and good, and let's get it on!

I think we have a great group going on here at notebookreview.com, lots of interesting people and outlooks with nary a total freeeak between us, we're all in it for the experience of enjoying these great notebooks we all own, of one sort of another, and I am open for discussion on ANY TOPIC you'd care to run past me, I really don't care what it is frankly as long as it's somewhat interesting and constructive, and most of all I hope that it's got some Fun in it somewhere! :yes:

I care about each and every one of you here, trust me I do and Sassimac will be the 1st to tell you that I am known to be a "helper" on the 'Net in general, both on the Mac side and the PC side, so if there's anything I like it's being helpful to the nice people when it comes to technical stuff, and especially software and hardware interfaces with PC's and Macs both.

I have an ongoing group of "reviews" and contributions over at Amazon.com under the name Wavey Davey in case any of you are interested in what I do over there for fun and trouble both, Hah-Hah! I also contribute to a number of other forums on the 'Net on the Mac and PC side both, and in general I just try to enjoy my time here because we only get one shot at it really, ya know?

I hope that everyone is having a good week so far, and that things are cookin' along with yer G51JX notebooks, and I am looking forward to an exciting week ahead myself with my friend Sassimac's G51-series getting all gussied up and sent Down Under for his enjoyment, so this is a KUHL time of the season for me personally... I am in the best of moods about all of it, so Rock On G51JX-series computer people, and May The Force Be With You!

 

I am sort of speechless about your issues with BT at this point Lem51, and I sure wish I could have figured it out for you already. I see from those thumbnail pictures you so kindly put up for us to see, indeed you do have the latest and greatest 2.1+EDR BlueTooth and MS Enumerator up there like the display should be, so I dunno.

Send that mouse back to wherever you got it and get another one and let's see if that fixes the issues because you know I've got several of the V470's here, working on both Macs and PCs, and to a one they are fail-safe devices and nary an issue with any of them, any platform, and any OS or software setup. My wife's MacBook Pro 13.3" laptop sits here with one working and "on" 24/7, and it works a treat with Snow Leopard 10.6.4, wakes the computer, silently sits there until called upon for work and never fails to function 100%.

When I've got my notebook handy dandy (not like right now where it's in the shop getting its video card replaced, hopefully), my G51JX-A1 just works seamlessly with its V470 BT mouse, never failing to do what I ask of it, never going to sleep or working against my preferences for it...My UL30VT-X1 also had one before I sold it to a nice gentleman from New York, and he tells me that, following my recommendation, the V470 also is working for him, just like it was working 100% for me also, so God Danged Sang! I just don't know where to begin trouble-shooting since I have not had any to speak of with this mouse and my BT combo's here, and friend's setups, in general I don't know of anyone who is having trouble with their notebooks and the V470 Logitech Mice!

The only deal I was hoping was the problem and a solve was that you didn't have BT updated to v2.1 +EDR, but you DO have it updated there and it looks appropriately solid like it should look, so I am pretty much left to wonder if it isn't that either BIOS v208 has made BT go South for you, or possibly that the mouse itself is defective and that is the reason you are having these difficulties with it messing with your system the way it is.

Try the mouse angle first, and see if that fixes things up, and if that doesn't work then all I can suggest is that you go to the earlier BIOS (re-flash the computer to v.206/207 and see if that solves things). Other than those two possibilities I don't quite know what to suggest or where to go with any fixes or suggestions. BT either works or doesn't and there seem to be some issues that the various BIOS's have with BT, and that even is spotty and inconsistent, as some have successfully flashed their G51's to the various BIOS's and had no issues at all, while other folks were not so fortunate (like me!) and lost BT altogther or it was screwed up so much that it might as well have gone South permanently.

Now did you do a Clean Install or not, that has escaped me? If you didn't do a Clean Install that is the other thing to try, and barring that let me suggest that you do the opposite: do a System Recovery operation and get things back to Square No. 1, just like I was the factory Asus Tech telling you to do this (because they will tell you to do just that, a Recovery operation), and get things in the computer back to the original configuration and see if that is the Big Fix that works...those are your only realistic options left...so:

1) replace the mouse with a new, fresh Logitech V470

2) Reflash the BIOS to v206 or 207, your choice there

3) Do a System Recovery and reinstall everything back to OEM Status, Square No.1, and see if that doesn't do the trick and get your BT back to normal

That's all she wrote, and there are no other real options to try, honestly that is IT as far as suggestions would be going, either from myself or from an Asus Tech on the telephone.

Good Luck, and I hope that this has helped you out some...

 

I don't think it's the mouse. Do yourself a favour and download a copy of Ubuntu 10.04, and boot into it using the LIVE CD. (That means don't install the OS to your HD, just "try it out" from the CD - this will be a choice when it boots).

Set your BT mouse up on that. I'll bet you dollars to donuts it works just fine in Ubuntu, which will tell you that a) it's not the mouse, b) it's not the hardware.

I have the very same issue with bluetooth after having flashed with 208. While I initially lost BT altogether on the factory OS install, I saw that it came back (sort of) when I did a clean Win 7 x64 install. Now it can "see" devices, but whenever I try to pair, it fails with a "driver could not be installed" error or somesuch.

I think that's a failing of the 208 BIOS. They've done something so that the Windows drivers don't work properly on the 208 BIOS. I have no trouble in Ubuntu tho, which tells me it's not the hardware.

I'm sending my notebook out for RMA this week because not only is the bluetooth pooched, but now my touchpad doesn't work. I can't right-click anything, nor can I double-tap to grab something. This is true in both Windows and Ubuntu, so it's very likely the hardware.

Give that Ubuntu test a try. I think you'll discover that there's nothing wrong w/ your mouse - it's the computer it's attached to. (unfortunately)

 

Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy, Oy Oy Oy!!!

thats one more Australian with an Asus g51jx

 

As I have stated here before I have the same problem with my touchpad, CAN NOT RIGHT-CLICK, pretty much it's useless. I have tried everything but still it's already been trashed.

Anyway, I don't plan on RMA...ing it, but I'll just keep using the different mice from my arsenal

 

And robbied wrote: "Set your BT mouse up on that. I'll bet you dollars to donuts it works just fine in Ubuntu, which will tell you that a) it's not the mouse, b) it's not the hardware.

I have the very same issue with bluetooth after having flashed with 208. While I initially lost BT altogether on the factory OS install, I saw that it came back (sort of) when I did a clean Win 7 x64 install. Now it can "see" devices, but whenever I try to pair, it fails with a "driver could not be installed" error or somesuch.

I think that's a failing of the 208 BIOS. They've done something so that the Windows drivers don't work properly on the 208 BIOS. I have no trouble in Ubuntu tho, which tells me it's not the hardware.

I'm sending my notebook out for RMA this week because not only is the bluetooth pooched, but now my touchpad doesn't work. I can't right-click anything, nor can I double-tap to grab something. This is true in both Windows and Ubuntu, so it's very likely the hardware.

Give that Ubuntu test a try. I think you'll discover that there's nothing wrong w/ your mouse - it's the computer it's attached to. (unfortunately)."

I'm not interested in getting into a pissing match with robbied over the BT issue, but I did want to refresh his memory about my BT situation which might have been forgotten, or never fully understood. When I flashed my BIOS with the *original* version of BIOS v.207 (they changed it apparently, after my "weekend of Bluetooth disaster" and RMA with my computer) I lost Bluetooth completely, and I mean it was G O N E. It didn't exist, period. Device manager showed no devices whatsoever with the BT name on them; I couldn't install any software or drivers because there were no devices to install the items onto; there was nothing to "see" or be seen altogether with respect to Bluetooth; in short Bluetooth completely got wiped off of my computer with that BIOS update and my computer needed an RMA to get it back.

During the RMA procedure I didn't just get something "fixed" by the BIOS v.207 they installed, which was the "new" version of BIOS v.207 (which I now have in the computer), Asus Tech Support replaced my motherboard and the Broadcomm Bluetooth Module itself, and associated fittings and hardware (which I saw myself when I disassembled my notebook post RMA procedure), the new hardware was flashed with the "new" BIOS v.207, and voila! I got my Bluetooth back 100%, and it works completely purrrfectly now, without fail, without issues, my Logitech V470 Mouse can wake the computer, operates 100% great and I have no complaints whatsoever about Bluetooth with my G51JX-A1. I also can use BT for wireless streaming audio to my Motorola MotoRokR S9 Stereo Bluetooth Headset, which I do every evening when working at my writing so I don't disturb everybody in the house with my extremely LOUD computer/stereo/surround-sound Logitech/JBL/Klipsche speaker setup in my studio.

Bluetooth also works for file transfer and Bluetooth protocol in the computer is functioning 100% aok fine, so I have left no stone unturned when it comes to Bluetooth and my G51JX-A1 notebook, as I have used it all, every conceivable Bluetooth function that the computer has I have used extensively since the repairs were made to the laptop. So I have a question for robbied about my repairs and subsequent BT 100% functioning: what, exactly do you think was wrong with my computer if it wasn't hardware related when Asus Tech Support/Fremont, CA 94538 REPLACED my motherboard and Bluetooth module, and also re-flashed my computer with the new, improved version of BIOS v.207? Right, I thought so...you're going to have to agree that the BIOS flashes affected my hardware or they wouldn't have replaced the motherboard and the BT module...It just simply was not only BIOS related for Asus to go through all that trouble, spend 4+ hours of a technician's time and their $$'s on replacing the boards in my laptop.

Since he is sending in his computer via RMA to Asus this week, apparently, just watch and see what they do to his laptop. I'll betcha that Asus replaces his boards also, and that ONLY after that procedure will Bluetooth return to function 100% in that computer, just like what happened with my computer, and that will end this discussion once and for all about the problem being BIOS related, or hardware related when BT goes South in these laptops. The problem is two-fold, not just BIOS and not just hardware...one affects the other, the BIOS flash renders the BlueTooth module and the motherboard incapable of passing BT signals to each other under Windows, Ubuntu be danged in this case, and that is the story there. It doesn't matter that it works in Ubuntu, apparently (I haven't tried that procedure, but I'll take robbied's word for it that it does work there fine), because it's Windows that we use for our OS in this computer for 99% of all of our uses, for all the apps and functions that Windows users have for the computer, not Linux, so it's meaningless that BT apparently works in Linux but not in Windows after these BIOS flashes renders BT unusable.

Asus isn't of a mind to care either about Linux uses of this computer, ONLY Windows uses, and that is why they replaced my motherboard and BT module, no matter what functioned potentially in Linux, and I repeat, I didn't try Linux because I don't use it, don't have any use for it.

The point to be made is that there is a real hardware issue with Bluetooth and our computers AFTER BIOS renders Bluetooth unusable in Windows, and it takes a hardware fix to bring it back, it's simply NOT just a BIOS flash that makes Bluetooth return...it takes hardware repairs and some kind of a magic trick that Asus performs in their tech support center to make BT return, because that was what it took in my computer's case, and I'll betcha that Asus does the same procedure to robbied's computer once they get their hands on it and have a chance to see what has happened to his BT module and motherboard...under Windows, ONLY not Ubuntu/Linux, because that is the OS they use to diagnose and repair the G51-series computers with, not Linux/Ubuntu.

Maybe I have missed something important in this dialog with you all about BT failures, but Asus is in the business of repairing the computers to function under Windows ONLY, not Linux...and so it will be with robbied's computer, and every other computer that they service because of BIOS flashes that affect BT in the G51 series computers. You cannot have it both ways, and if it's hardware AND BIOS *together* that is the bottom line for the BT failures that people with these computers experience. You can't say, "It's not the hardware"...it seems to be BOTH hardware and BIOS that causes the problems, and it takes hardware and a new BIOS flash to get BT back in the laptops, at least that is the way I see it after my repairs, and the successful return of BT in my laptop...in Windows, not Linux/Ubuntu.

My apologies if the discussion here is getting trivialized or it seems like I am trying to persecute robbied for his views about Linux/Ubuntu and BT with the G51 computers, but it's Windows that we use to the tune of 99% of people's uses for the laptops, and that is also how Asus repairs them...they don't give a darn if the BT happens to work in Linux, all they care about is if we can use BT in Windows and that is the reason I got my motherboard and BT module replaced in my G51JX-A1, and the BIOS flashed with the "new" version of BIOS v.207 that was put up after August 13, 2010, Friday the 13th, a day that I will never, ever forget.

I have no use for Linux with my G51 or I'd have undoubtedly tried it out with BT like robbied has done with his computer, but I am awfully happy that I now have working Bluetooth in the laptop because I use it for so many functions, and I certainly hope that Asus gets a chance to repair his computer like they did mine, and get this whole deal done and over with so robbied can begin to enjoy using his laptop again like I can enjoy mine. Bluetooth is a very nice thing to have as an option with the G51 series laptops, and with Bluetooth 2.1 EDR+ it's particularly effective, a strong and resourceful version of BT in the laptops that allows for utility and enjoyment of music, mouse use, and file transfers also. I would not have many complimentary things to say about my G51 if I didn't have working Bluetooth 2.1 EDR+.

 

Hey everyone! I've enjoyed reading the discussion here and on other forums on NBR. I was until this past weekend going to wait for the ASUS G53, but my current laptop, an XPS m1730 finally gave up the ghost, so to speak. I do massive amounts of video and CAD work and I wanted a computer that contained an Nvida card. I also love gaming...

In any case, my ASUS G51X-X05 just arrived and I can't wait to unleash the power. I look forward to tapping some of the expertise on this forum. Take care and I'll report back after I burn some recovery discs.

 

I got my laptop back from a RMA repair where they replaced the Broadcomm Bluetooth Module because the BIOS 208 update fried the board. When I got my laptop back, it still has the 208 Bios and I don't have problems with BT. I pair both a BT keyboard and two different mice to it, one a Logitech 470 and the other a MSoft Notebook 5000. Everything works great. Not sure that the 208 Bios is an issue for me but reading these threads shows something is suspect.

 

Woot for Aussies

 

Interesting....


Well I'm still having the keyboard issue. Now its manifesting itself not just as a character skip, but as a full-fledged lag effect. Are the recovery discs I burned (6 discs) just the operating system? Do I get a clean install from them? BTW Rex, no hard feelings. You are the premier source of help in this thread. MANY THANKS!

Eric

 

You may have missed my point on this Rexrzer. I use Ubuntu in this case simply to prove that it's a hardware problem (on the touchpad situation), and NOT a hardware problem on the BT side. I'm sure I'm seeing something different than you on the BT situation because I flashed straight to 208 without flashing 207. You flashed 207, so I'm not surprised that we have different observations.

The reason I want to check if it's hardware or not is because if it IS hardware, then I know drivers/software won't fix the problem. So on the touchpad, I don't have to go mucking around with drivers and configuration if it's broken in Ubuntu.

For the BT, because I can see something in Windows (but it doesn't work), and BT is 100% fine in Ubuntu, I DO know that the hardware is fine and it's a software/driver problem. I don't disagree that the BIOS is likely to blame.

So no, it's not a pissing contest, and you don't need to refresh my memory on your BT experience. It's precisely BECAUSE of your BT experience that I think my (and Lem51's) situation is different. We're on 208, and your issue was a broken 207 BIOS. I'm explaining MY situation (as it relates to Lem51's BT mouse situation) and the fact that I don't think it's the mouse that's to blame, but the computer. If that's the case, then returning the mouse for another one isn't likely to solve the problem.

I'm sending my computer in for RMA, which should indicate to you that I too don't care whether it works on Linux - it has to work on Windows or it's no damn good!

 

I have a bit to say about over/undervolting the CPU and GPU.

**A first note: I can't remember if oneb1t mentioned his attempts at overvolting the GPU?

**

And, it's true.. After (no joke) 4 hours of testing you CANNOT change the voltage supplied to the GPU.

Let's take a step back in time...
Today, 11am, while overclocking my GPU for some 3D Mark Vantage'ing. I began looking at changing the "Core Voltage" setting in MSI Afterburner.

A quick google had me editing the .cfg file found in C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner (most likely). This is how the .cfg file is set out.

Code:

[Properties]
ShowGeneralTab			= 1
ShowFanTab			= 1
ShowMonitoringTab		= 1
ShowOnScreenDisplayTab		= 1
ShowScreenCaptureTab		= 1
ShowProfilesTab			= 1
ShowUserInterfaceTab		= 1

[Settings]
Skin 				= default.usf
StartMinimized			= 0
StartWithWindows		= 0
RememberSettings		= 0
FirstRun			= 1
FirstUserDefineClick		= 1
FirstServerRun			= 1
HwPollPeriod			= 1000
MMIOPageSize			= 4
PCIBusFilter			= -10h
ShowTooltips			= 1
ShowHints			= 1
PauseInSuspendedMode		= 1
CurrentGpu			= 0
Sync				= 1
AttachMonitoringWindow		= 1
MonitoringWindowOnTop		= 1
ShowPerformanceProfilerStatus	= 0
LCDFont				= font4x6.dat
LCDScrollTimerPeriod		= 30
[B]UnlockVoltageControl		= 1
UnlockVoltageMonitoring		= 1[/B]
ShowOSDTime			= 0
RestoreAfterSuspendedMode	= 0
StartupViaTaskScheduler		= 1
StartupDelay			= 0
MinMonitoringGraphHeight	= -1
LocalizationDebugFlags		= 0
EnableLog			= 0
RecreateLog			= 0
LogPath				=
DontStopLoggingOnWriteFailure	= 0
LogLimit			= 10
ForceConstantVoltage		= 0
AllowCaptureVoltageDefaults	= 0
Link				= 1
UseDirectInputHotkeyHandler	= 0
SendToTrayOnClose		= 0
DataFilteringThreshold		= 10

[ATIADLHAL]
[B]EnableUnofficialOverclocking	= 0[/B]
AccessibilityCheckingPeriod	= 0

[B][NVAPIHAL][/B]
ClockDomainIdWorkaround		= -1

The first bold bit (which you can hardly see.. sorry about that) is for unlocking the voltage slider, just like you can in the "Settings" option in MSI Afterburner. The next bit, was what the ATI guys had to change, to enable the slider....And then there is us nvidia guys, we get a ClockDomainIdWorkaround, which god only knows what means. Because of this I didn't feel comfortable changing it's value. Any Idea's?

So, I delved deeper. How to Soft VMod ALL NVidia Graphics Cards - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net Leading me to nvflash, a BIOS Flashing tool for Nvidia GPU's. Sounds dangerous After "ages" trying different versions, getting different errors, trying in different operating systems, I finally got as close as I was going to get.

Code:

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.95)

Adapter: GeForce GTS 360M     (10DE,0CB1,1043,203C) H:--:NRM B:01,PCI,D:00,F:00

The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 10 seconds during access to the
EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device.

Identifying EEPROM...
EEPROM ID (20,0000) : Unknown

ERROR: Supported EEPROM not found

It was depressing, to say the least
And I believe (correct me if im wrong) that there is nothing we can do to change this.

*THIS IS JUST A RANDOM SIDE NOTE, KINDA.* So! How about overclocking the CPU, well

and http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/477553-asus-g51j-a1-i7-720qm-overclocked-properly.html leads us to believe it can be done, but rexrzer727 gave us a beautiful post (as all his posts are, I enjoy reading them ) on how overclocking the CPU will...something to do with temperatures...it was a long time ago, ie. NOT a good Idea to overclock the CPU BUT IT CAN BE DONE! So, I gave up, the easiest option

I personally didn't buy the shareware version of SetFSB, but if anyone did and had trouble with freezing when using the sliders, supposably if you just edit the value's in the diagnosis section, you overcome this whatever. *FROM MY RESEARCH YOU CAN'T OVERVOLT THE CPU*

Next, undervolting our i7's. I started off following this http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...arket-upgrades/235824-undervolting-guide.html guide, only soon to find out that RMClock doesn't support i7's (and never will, it's dead), and later found out it's a bi*** to get rid of... With more googling, I was lead to ThrottleStop 2.85 (which I believes the latest version?). The name says it all. It kills throttling, but it has some other interesting features

If you don't have it already get it from: http://go.notebookreview.com/?id=52...ttle-issue-investigation-152.html#post5637647 <--There

A screenshot :

http://i53.tinypic.com/nx3mgh.jpg

The next bit refers to that screenshot:

Works for us -->Clock Modulation

This is a feature of Intel CPUs since the Pentium 4 era and is also known as On Demand Clock Modulation. It was provided so users could manually reduce the performance of their computer to improve battery life or reduce heat output. It reduces the internal speed of your computer so when this is being used, your computer will run slower. In the Monitoring area the current modulation value will be shown in the CMod% column. Intel allows a user to select any value between 100.0% and 12.5% in steps of 12.5%. A reading of 100.0% shows that your computer is running at full speed and Clock Modulation is not being used to reduce the performance of your CPU. A reading of 50.0% means your computer is operating at half of its designed performance level.

Works for Us -->Chipset Clock Modulation

This is a second type of throttling that is controlled by the on board chipset. It works exactly the same as regular Clock Modulation and is another method that can be used to slow down your computer. This method is being used on the Dell Alienware M15x as well as many Acer laptops. It's possible that both methods can be used at the same time but I've yet to see any computer doing this. Most laptops choose one method or the other.

Works for us -->Set Multiplier

Adjusting this will give you some control over the multiplier your CPU uses. The default multiplier for a Core i7-720QM mobile processor is 12.0. When this value is set to 13.0, it tells the CPU that you would like it to use the default 12.0 multiplier plus as much turbo boost as is allowed. The i7-720 can use upto 9 bins of turbo boost so when running a single threaded task it's possible for the multiplier to go as high as 21.0 for brief moments. The result is that your CPU will go from 1600 MHz (12.0 x 133.3 MHz) up to 2800 MHz (21.0 x 133.3 MHz). As more cores enter the active state to take care of additional processes, the amount of turbo boost available will be reduced. When this CPU is fully loaded on all 8 threads, you will not likely see any turbo boost available so the multiplier will return to its default value of 12.0. The amount of turbo boost available at any instant in time is directly related to how many cores are in the active state. The average multiplier is reported for each thread in the Monitoring section under the Multi heading.

When this is set to any value less than the default multiplier, your computer will be limited to a maximum of that multiplier.

Doesn't -->Voltage ID

This is only available on Core 2 based CPUs and allows you to adjust the core voltage. Some users like to reduce the voltage of their CPUs to reduce its heat output and power consumption which can increase your battery life. When adjusting your core voltage, be careful not to adjust it too low or your computer might become unstable. I like adjusting it lower in small steps while running a stress testing program like Prime 95 with the Small FFTs option. Software adjustable core voltage is no longer available on the newer Core i7/i5/i3 processors.

And of course if you tick the boxes, EIST and BD PROCHOT, Throttling is disables

Now, as for the other things, it's like P4G but more user customisable. You can set the multiplier from 9-13 and the others from 100% to 12.5%

And I believe thats it That was the most part of my day

To conclude:
To date you CANNOT change the Core Voltage of the gts 360m.
It is possible to overclock the CPU using SetFSB (old news).
I heard somewhere you could change the voltage of the i7 720qm but never found a link...So, to date you cannot change the voltage of the i7 720qm.
You can change the multiplier, core modulation and chipset clock mod (to improve battery life (if you want...).
And on a finally note I believe oneb1t still leads the GPU overclocking with : 645/1633/2115

Catchya AND HAPPY 100th PAGE EVERYBODY!!!

 

Hey guys looking for some help:

Recently I started getting a weird display issue. When the laptop is trying to display black for example, the pixels will turn green.

These "incorrect" colors will flicker between that and the correct color. It only does it with certain colors and it does it in kind of patches, mostly where the one color is concentrated, also interestingly it does it from the center of the screen to about one third of the left of the screen.

My first instinct was a loose cable to the screen or to the graphics card. I dont know how to access it or what it looks like however. If anyone could help me I would be very appreciative. Laptop was purchased at the end of August so its pretty much new.

 

robbied you're a good man, and I appreciate you taking the time to further explain to me your perceptions about this BT deal, and I agree 100% that we have different experiences with the same result basically: no BT function in Windows, and it sucked!

I will leave things as they are and not go further in any particular direction about this whole deal because what is important is that you get your laptop fixed 100%, and that they RMA it for those two hardware/BIOS issues you have, and repair the damn thing to work 100%, that is all that is important...not whether you or are are correct about this or that viewpoint on the issues...we need Asus support to step up and do the job that they are apparently so good at, and that is some kind of "magic trick" which I cannot to this day even imagine what that is, which gets BT back in working order...and it's not just what they tell us either, because they have to know that their BIOS is causing all this havoc, and that is conspiratorial in nature at its worst, and I don't appreciate it at all frankly!

So we'll leave it to the Gods at Asus Tech Support to remedy your mess as they did mine, and hopefully they are successful.

As to my situation, Asus Tech in Fremont, CA 94538, has my computer in their shop right now, and when I check on the RMA the status is "Repairing" today, so it looks like they did take my recommendation to heart, looked seriously at all the test data that I sent up to them in a nice, chronological bundle with clear, concise Excel graphics to show them what the video card errors look like in OCCT v3.1, and how 3DMark06 test after test after test went below 8700 3DMarks, every single time at any setting...to as low as 5500 3DMarks at OEM clock settings on the GPU...and hopefully they are replacing the parts that need to be replaced.

I have no idea what those parts are...it could be just the video board itself, it could be the clock generator chip, it could be the CPU and clock generator chip AND the video card, all 3 pieces...it's just wild speculation to guess at this point what exactly they are doing to my laptop, but my guess is pretty Golden that they did in fact find a problem with the results I sent, and with their own tests to boot, and that will lead to something getting replaced and repaired, to where the laptop performs to specifications at least...if not better.

I have been putting up with sub-par performance for months, and just didn't want to go through this headache one, more time again and yet here I am...going through precisely what I didn't want to do...and I really had no choice in the matter if I wanted things to get better with my laptop. There is a point that one reaches where things are best left to the people who built the machine. And that is where I found myself about 2 weeks ago after playing GTA:IV and getting artifacts and broken shadows and misplaced colors and stuttering action during chase scenes. I'd just had enough of it and decided right then and there to send the laptop in to Asus and let them have their shot at making it right as rain.

They fixed my BT 100% to my satisfaction; prior to that they fixed the RAM in my UL30VT-X1 to my satisfaction, and then some (replacing 1066Mhz RAM with 1333Mhz RAM, when they obviously saw by reading System Logs that I operated that computer at 1906Mhz to 2150Mhz consistently, where 1066Mhz RAM just couldn't overclock enough to stay with the CPU's speed); and now they have my G51JX-A1 once again, with what is in my mind a problem with the video board(s) and associated parts and pieces.

I understand enough about the construction and function of the various parts and pieces in such a laptop to know that it's probably NOT just the video card that is the culprit, as there are always other factors and causes to make performance degrade in such a sophisticated laptop as a G51JX-A1...it's never just a simple "One part fixed, replaced, problem gone"...it's never, ever like that with laptops these days, as there are more than just one physical part or piece that makes up the whole structure of video performance. :wub:

To top it all off, you can never be sure that the manufacturer is telling the whole story when you get the thing back either! That build-out/repair sheet that comes back with a repaired laptop at Asus (and other manufacturers also) might not give the whole picture about what, exactly was fixed, or how they fixed the machine, as it sometimes is in the best interests of the company and/or its suppliers to NOT give out the details of a repair in full disclosure fashion...I've been around the block a few times myself with getting repairs handled with my own computers, both PC and Macs, and also worked as a technician, too, and sometimes company policies or keeping things "in the best light of day" in terms of repair details means that you may, or may not end up with the full, complete story about a given repair procedure.

For someone technically oriented like I am that just frosts me! It makes me feel like I'm not privy to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about a product's repair procedures. It's not my favorite subject to even discuss my own feelings about matters like this because it may seem like I am downright negative, or hostile toward certain ideas or things, and to be honest I don't like to be perceived as someone who over-reacts or seems irrational or overly emotional about anything at all really.

With those thoughts in mind I am trying my best to be patient, to not be critical when I don't have any facts to speak of anyway just yet, and most of all I am trying to give Asus their 100% chance to do whatever they feel is necessary to repair my G51 laptop, just leave it all up to them and not interfere or call Fremont unnecessarily on the telephone, no emails, no Tech Support forms, just trying to "leave the driving to Asus" at this point and let go of the whole deal until I have my laptop back in my hands, physically. :yes:

You know it's funny that I have my partner's G51JX-X5 sitting here being all brand new, and spiffy and different, as the X5's ARE different looking than the Blue-blazed "lighted Claw Hammer" look of the lid of the A1 model, getting his ready for its trip Down Under and setting it up *exactly* like my laptop is set up... while mine is probably in complete disassembly sitting on some tech's work bench up in Fremont, CA 94538, either waiting for parts to arrive from Taiwan, or otherwise just being a jumbled-up mess of parts and pieces right now while this new, beautifully made X5 is here just being purrrfectly KUHL!

I am not one to mince words about anything as you know, and I will call a Spade a Spade if necessary, in a tactful way if I can of course, so I think I'll just take it easy this weekend and get ready for my wife's birthday celebration on Monday the 11th, and simply not even think about my laptop at all, just forget about it 100% and find other things to concentrate on. I will wish the tech who is working on my G51 the best of luck, and give him/her all the good energy that I can muster, that much I *can do* right now, and I am going to trust Asus Tech Support 100% with this repair job in the works, and hope that it turns out for the best.

I will wish everyone a great weekend, and if I can be of any help to someone you know how to reach my mailbox, or just ask me any question right here in the Forum where I will diligently read what is going on each day, as usual. I always enjoy helping others with computer issues if I can do such a thing, and I promise to not let the repair of my G51 get in the way of how I interact with everybody here.

 

there is way to change voltage for gts 360m BUT its really dangerous and untested
BIOS disassembly - ASUS G51J 0x124 BSOD Troubleshooting Wiki
we need to disassemble bios from G51jx/G60Jx
and make same thing as with 260M GTX but i dont have enough knowledge to do that

 

Anyone up to it?

 

As far as the G51J "BIOS Disassembly" went, they never even finished THAT monumental undertaking, and there were some very good minds trying to deal with it to "eliminate throttling" and other issues such as they were/are with the G51J's. What happened, if you read that whole thread from beginning to end as I did before I bought my G51JX-A1, was that a BIOS update was issued by Asus and it addressed virtually all of the concerns that those hot-shots had about the notebook, and it all just sort of went away....and no further work was done with the "disassembly" and "re-assembly" of the BIOS.

Listen kids, that sort of thing is a monumental task, and you're just kidding yourselves about dealing with it in any serious way...it's just simply an impossibility if you want my opinion about it, totally and completely IMPOSSIBLE to do unless you were to unleash a team of code warriors on it, each with, perhaps, a dedicated 12-Core CPU of some sort, advanced knowledge of BIOS required by all participants of course, and even then if you miss even one freakin' line of code with incorrect values you will proceed to brick and render totally unusable any computer that you load an "adjusted" BIOS into.

So the risks are real, and the expertise required to do it is quite deep and I just don't think that anybody short of the manufacturer themselves is up to it!!

If anyone feels differently about it, let me suggest one thing to do: take a section of our present BIOS and try and decode it for yourselves, and see what you're up against! I flat out guarantee failure! NO doubt in my mind about it...so good luck, ya know?

I wish I had better information that I do about it, but that is reality gents, and ladies if any, and unless somebody understands the whole subject better than I do presently, I'd suggest that you move on to bigger and more realistic goals, such as working with SetFSB perhaps on adjusting the values in our present settings and see if you can have any better luck, and expertise again is necessary for this sort of work (and it IS work, trust me), than the guys doing it presently.

I have worked with the maker of SetFSB before on another computer, the N61JQ-Asus notebook, trying to disassemble the settings in the Clock Generator therein, but it turned out that model does NOT have a variable/adjustable generator, end of story, and chapter in being able to overclock an Asus notebook with the Core i7 720QM CPU in it.

As far as overclocking the computer in general, let me say this as I have written it before: the benefits are questionable at best for this sort of thing with this notebook! There is hardly adequate cooling for the present setup with stock clocks, one fan, one chamber for cooling, one heat sink shared by the CPU and GPU, and the hope of achieving any great measure of CPU overclocking successfully is slim and none.

What would you all suggest for a goal for said overclocking? Getting all 4 Cores (8 hyperthreaded Cores) to run @ 2Ghz or so, without issues, perhaps? Something more ambitious? Think again, please, before you get into this and waste your time and energy...there is little hope of having a stable CPU at anything like a lofty goal such as 2.4, 2.6, 2.8Ghz on all 4 Cores, there just isn't adequate cooling to even attempt such a thing, so what would you suggest, pray tell?

I work with overclocking my PC's every day, and have stable, fast PC desktop servers and a personal PC for my work that is fast like the devil, that I do have, but do you have any idea how much work I put into that stability and overclocking? Holy Cripes! I spent all of my spare time last year during the months of April through August getting my Core i7 CPU's dialed in on my desktops, working with people like Shamino, Shansmi, Raja1, overclocker 53, and the other pals I have over at EVGA.com for all the work we did on the original 920-series CPU's, both with 6GB and 12GB of RAM on board, and pushing the CPU's on AIR and H20 both until something was impossible to get to...and I assure you that getting a stable computer is not for the feint of heart, and that is with all the best tools available for the job, including multiple fans with various CFM requirements, advanced cooling paste application with the best of CPU pastes, and of course having a variable BIOS to work with in the 1st place! That we don't have on this computer, it would all have to be done through software manipulation and FSB changes.

This is a very nice CPU system we have with the G51JX computers, and it is pretty much maximized already by the manufacturer as it sits, for the present cooling methods and tools available for the machine, so I don't know what the Hell you all are after frankly! It won't be easy, it will be hard on equipment and minds both to do such a thing, so I don't know what all the furor presently is about with this CPU overclocking need on the G51 computers, in all honestly. :yes:

I don't want to pop anybody's bubble, but there are few avenues available to pursue with respect to overclocking our CPU's, and the ones that ARE available are questionable in every sense of that word because the notebooks do not have the means to cool a hot CPU should you even get any overclocking successfully administered!

I happen to like the built-in CPU power of this notebook and commend Asus on getting a solid 7% overclocking built into the OS in this version of the notebook, and I am happy with what we have right now...so tell me why, how, and in what manner you have a better idea than Asus, given the present state of affairs with respect to no cooling being available short of cutting up the bottom of the notebook and making holes in it, adding copper fittings to the various components and somehow cooling them off, and most of all not having a variable BIOS component to work with, it's fixed, and there is no hope of change there!

Hmmmm, go figure!

 

I'm getting all geared up for my new cooling system, I've always been a cooling freak, even when I make kits in my shed, everything has heat sinks on them! I'm looking for an idle temp of 30oC, both CPU and GPU

Attached is my current idle temps, how do these compare with yours? (note, fans at @ 100% because of rw-everything, sorry, i know it's kind of cheating, but i cant change them back :S )

This isn't necessarily for overclocking. As I said, I like things to be cool

Room Temps: 24 - 27oC (gotta love Australia, in summer, when your house has no roof ...)

 

idle with room temperature 21°C without cooling pad
fan at 100%



after 10min



2PrivateReid: if you have problem with 100% fan speed after restart just shut down computer then start it again hold F2
and wait for fan to start spinning before you continue in boot

there is one small problem with AAM on seagate HDD
its turned on by default



i want to turn it off but HD tune cant do it..
some tip?

 

hi, i have a doubt, anybody has low speakers sound in this nb?
i've tried with oem dvd drivers realtek + creative, and latest realtek, and still have low built-in sound.
sound @ bios is max [8] and when i connect a headset it sound fairly loud...

 

try to set volume equalization in speaker settings