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I expect this might be detrimental to battery life. I think Intel allows cores to be shut down to conserve power when they aren't necessary. The question is, do you want 4 cores running a little bit, or 1-2 cores working hard?

If you're gaming, then ya - it makes no sense to park cores. I wonder then if the OS is waking the cores up properly? Maybe not?

If you're typically plugged in (this is no "thin and light" notebook), then there's probably no big deal blocking the core parking. Probably not a good way to conserve battery life if you're unplugged.

That said, you have to change this key for each of your power profiles, so maybe it's wise to just change it for your gaming profile. Just thinking out loud.

R.

 

I think that's hex 64, which = 100. This in itself is ludicrous of course... "Yeah, we're not doing much besides refreshing the screen... just park all them cores, will ya?

"ALL the cores sir? But... but... but..."

"ALL THE CORES Lieutenant! RIGHT NOW! Hey... wait a s !poof!"

 

Core parking is when windows shut downs or "parkes" cores from the processor to save power. Now, in gaming this is no use to us and as mentioned in the link Windows sometime gets it wrong leaving... "...the scope for glitchs / pops / clicks / droputs etc.... in such an environment is simply enormous...". Which makes sense.

What this registry hack does is changes how much authority Windows has over your cores. From, in my case 64, to 0. Which leads me to:

Yes! that would lead to quite a interesting problem...

But it seems that either Windows know not to do that or...well something.

Above is a quote taken from:
Windows 7 & Core Parking .... a *better* way to Turn It OFF ....

Which means it has to be a % and not hex, if the default for them is 100. But 64 seems to be an odd number... That would mean Windows could park 2.56 cores Can you park half a core? i don't think so.

Well! You can do that! it said in the link ( UltimateComputers.net Forum - View topic - Disable Core Parking Windows 7 Tweak may improve performance ) "...the number of instances will depend on the number of power profiles in your system..." that their was a registry entry for each power plan you have, so, if you can figure out which is which than it stands to reason you could change each to a different value.

Now, I think we can all agree that we see some spiking/spiking/jumping around on core 1 when the other's are parked... Now, is that really good? I wouldn't have thought so. So, having all cores at a balanced load seems nice.

The End.

 

Kk that makes sence, maybe I will change it for my gaming profile, and leave the others alone

Edit: Lawl can't find the key in registry(Says its finished looking through registry but nothing is displayed )

 

Hmmm, it takes mine close to a minute to find it, but it does eventually...

EDIT: Are you sure there is no space at the start of the key! that got me as well, because when you try to copy/paste the entry from that site it add's a space

 

I ended up using the TuneUp Registry Editor, and it found 3 entries, so all i have to do is instead of 64, its just 0?

Wow confusing, I did it again, without changing, any values and it won't show up anymore -_- my laptop is playin wit me


Update, Found them again, jus changed all to 0, but using the windows gadget upon startup i still spike to 67% on core usage

 

Yep, change 64 to 0 then restart. Each of those entries represents a WINDOWS power plan. So, High Performance, Balanced, Power Saving.. Now, I have no idea how you would distinguish which registry entry corresponds to which power plan... you could guess and check though.

 

Heres a good question, will this also affect the power settings Power4GEar High PErformance

 

<del>Hmm, Well, there's only three registry entries, and three windows power settings, whereas there is four P4G settings.. So, no I don't think so...</del> EDIT: WAIT! It has to! because it doesn't park any cores when I change what P4G setting im on, but it used to

<del>Oh, and Im fairly sure it's in % See picture.</del> EDIT: you write it in hex but it equated to %

 

Heres mine through both Regedit and Tuneup

And that sort of sux aboout P4G, maybe they alrdy turn off core parking

 

Well, actually it's great about P4G! See above post

I'm going to restart now after changing the registry giving Windows 100% (64) control over parking.. I want to do so testing with P4G

 

You must be right, because on a "hunch" I unplugged everything and pulled the battery, then plugged it all bk in, CPU usage only got as high as 20% on startup with P4G settings,


Thx for the post man (rep to u)

 

Here's the driver setup that you need to get your Fn Keys to work correctly with the keystroke Fn+ F9, etc etc:

1) Keyboard Filter Driver

2) ATK Media Driver

3) ATK Driver (1a)

4 ATK Driver (2a)

5) ATK FGNFEX Driver

6) ATK O-SD2 Driver

7) ATK HotKey Driver

I got all of my drivers from the Utility and Driver DVD ROM, and double-checked that list against the list on the Asus/Support/Driver Download web site, checking off each and every one carefully to mark a one-to-one ratio until I had none left over, all were accounted for. Then I put all of those drivers on a USB Flash Drive in a Folder "G51JX Drivers", and when the machine called for the Driver/Utility DVD ROM (CD ROM) I inserted the Flash Drive and began my sequence of installing all relevant utilities and drivers that I deemed necessary for a successful Clean Install, leaving out all the games, Asus proprietary items, and of course Express Gate amongst other programs negated by my Clean Install.

I cannot share with the group my entire listing of drivers that I used, as some are "coded" for my internal use when installing and thus incomprehensible to those here, so sorry about that!

I hope this helps you out with the ATK Drivers which are indespensable for Hot Key and Function Key identification by the OS and the Hot Key sequences. Install those components, RESTART, then use Glary Registry Cleaner/fixer to tie up any loose ends and you should then have Fn Key usability.

Here's hoping that this helps you out, and solves this dilemma, which is a serious thing to fix, so approach it accordingly, and make it work...I cannot stress how important these things are, because the OS depends on keystrokes like these to function normally, and you'd best get it done correctly before you end up having to reinstall the entire OS from scratch because of corruption and missing driver and REgistry links...

I am not trying to scare you, but this is reality, and you need to take this fix very, very seriously and should have these function keys working 100% straight away after doing this installation process as above...

Good luck, and hope it helps...

 

So you guys are messing about with the Registry Keys for coding the P4G Panel, the OS's "selective and elective Core disposition" processes, and other things to do with Power Distribution via activating and de-activating the very Core processes that control CPU functioning... hmmmm, be careful! you could very well be messing with some core functionality that interfaces with the most basic CPU processes and risking some things that you might not want to be risking, had you known what you were messing about with in the 1st place. :yes:

I do not mean to bring this party to a halt and or negate the process of healthy experimentation within the group here, but by all means you should well be aware that you are changing the way the machine distributes Core power between the OS and the control panels, and there are many, many Registry entries inherent in said processes which depend on the core processes that you are changing to maintain correct CPU functionality, when the CPU is under stress especially, when it needs to distribute Core Power amongst the system to maintain Turbo Boost functionality and efficacy, and I just don't know if it's a wise and prudent thing to be randomly changing the base Core Value from 0 to 64 and vice versa for 100% time usage...this in fact may prove to be problematical vs what your intentions are, which is ostensibly to improve performance somehow, isn't that correct?

I read the treatise that pre-empts the methodology of changing the base core value from 0 to 64, & vice versa, and there is one key ingredient lacking from that presumption: the interim values that are *not assigned* by that core process are most likely negated by you changing the assigned value system as you have done.

I would hope that there is nothing detrimental to what experimentation has been done thus far, but I fear the worst, and I am cautioning you all to be extremely careful when manipulating the core function values of the OS's interaction with the physical processor core activities, which is exactly what you are doing by changing those values discriminately, arbitrarily.

I am going to do a little research with Abo-San from the program SetFSB, who originated all of the Core Value changes that resulted in his program being successful, before I change anything in my Core processes' functionality, and I will not be arbitrarily changing those values as you have apparently done with your CPU and OS interface with the FSB system, (so casually you have done this) before I know a bit more about what changing those values actually represently to the Core functions of the FSB mechanism. especially under stress and heavy loads.

Have any of you experimented using these values with LinX 0.6.3, or with PRIME95, or perhaps OCCT's LinPack tests of the CPU and its ability to maintain order and controls? Any stability testing?

I am not forming any right or wrong conclusions about what processes you have interrupted and/or changed by doing what amounts to a wholesale change in the reaction index of the CPU Cores during stress and temperature changes. I will reserve any comments about that until after I conference with AboSan about this change you have taken on face value to be a "good thing to do"... but is it really a good thing to do? That is the question, and I intend to figure out the answer to that before entertain doing it, or even think seriously about doing such a thing.

I may be experimental in my activities with computers, but I never base a wholesale change like this on only one source or viewpoint, and seek out the wisdom of all those that I know who are privy to such thinking before I attempt something as radical as you recommend doing here tonight...and have been doing with the Core ratio in the CP and Windows since I last posted here earlier today.

I am surprised to say the least, and will find out a LOT more about this process you are changing before I even think about risking my components on a new interpretation of what the "Core parking" process is really all about...and I strongly suspect it goes much deeper than any of you have anticipated up to now, so be careful gents...you may be stepping on some toes that don't need their apple cart upset at this point. :confused2:

 

@Rex, I just want to start off by telling you that I am so grateful that someone here in the forum is here to offer their attention and time to help a regular newbie like me. I really appreciate the fact that you go into detail as well. Thank you so much.

I will try this out right now. Without doing a clean install (reformat), I assume I should first uninstall the keyboard filter and all the ATK drivers listed above that I have here, restart, and reinstall them after downloading it from the Asus website to test if the keyboard is fine with the Synaptics program installed. Does that sound fine? Of course I will do a Glary Registry Cleaner after the drivers are installed as well. Ill update you on what happens. Thanks again rex.

*Update* So I'm at the Asus support website right now trying to download the drivers, I look under the ATK category and only found 5 things listed but you listed 6.

This is what I see:

ATK Hotkey Utility

ASUS ATKOSD2 Utility

ATK Media Utility

ATK Generic Function Service Utility

ATKACPI Driver

Also can you tell me which one of those matches with each of the ones you listed so I don't make a mistake installing them in the correct order?

 

Kenny, you forgot the Keyboard Driver, which is NOT listed with the ATK functions on the web site, as I recall...You should get all of these utilties off of your Drivers/Utility DVD ROM which came with the laptop, not the web site, although you *can* get those things there too...it's just a little convoluted and not organized to do that, and much easier to get the software out of the "Asus Software" part of the DVD ROM...that has been my experience...

I'll answer your PM now, also, and see if there's anything different in that context that you need answered...

Later.... and you are welcome, of course, I don't mind honestly I don't doing this stuff...after all I KNOW HOW to do all of it, so why not share my little gifts! Hah-Hah!

 

Like I said in my last post, 100 written in hex is 64. So you're saying "park up to 100% of cores", but you're writing it in hex, which is 64. So hex 64 = 100%. That's 4 cores, not 2.56.

 

@robbied
Yea, your correct. I wasn't thinking straight

@rexrzer727

After changing the entries back to 64 earlier today, there has been no (noticeable) change in performance.

But it is interesting to know!

And considering so many other i7 users have used this tip and raved about it's success, I consider it safe.

Having said that at this point in time I'm going to keep them at 64. And I agree that there is the possibility of a more sinister side to this "tip"

And finally, whats the highest (stable) clock you've got with the GTS 360M? I've read 630/2100/1625 (Core/Memory/Shader), that was from nfshp253. I've gotten 622/1498/2130 (Core/Shader/Memory), just for the sake of it So, what about you guys?

 

Hey guys.
Don't want to interrupt any ongoing discussions, but if someone has time to brainstorm whats the cause of the problem i'm experiencing, I'd be very thankful.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/522071-asus-g51jx-ssd-not-booting-issue.html#post6755806

Cheers

// Robin

 

On the core parking tweak:

I think I also read that if you delete the "Attribute" key (which is set to 1), these parameters will become visible in the power settings dialog so you can set them in Windows. I understand the "Attribute" key just means "Hidden", so deleting it means that the core parking settings are NOT hidden. I'm not on my notebook right now, so I'll check that out when I get home.

 

@PrivateReid, the set of numbers are not tested by me. It was tried by some other user and I don't know how that turned out. I clock my at 618/1486/1800 and it already reaches 97 degrees Celsius since my room temperature is 31 here and humidity is around 90%!

 

I can only keep my clocks at default, MY GRAPHICS driver crashes whenever its clocks are modified, "Crys" but all well, my laptop runs (A)ok


Update: O_O nvm I decided to try EVGA, again with the Latest Beta 260 driver that Rex kindly informed us about, NO crashes overclocking wat so ever, currently running the "suggested settings from rex"

600, 1600, 2100 going to experiment alittle on high i can go


and nfshop isn't 97 degrees Celcius alittle high? isn't the current max for this card 105?

 

I noticed the effect core parking had on my system after I turned it off. Playing Mafia II, whenever there was a huge car accident, explosion, or tons of "action" in general, the graphics used to stutter a bit. I've played a few hours since turning it off and this hasn't happened. Gameplay is much smoother, and while there's absolutely no increase in FPS, I think it's a worthwhile and noticeable improvement.

 

Hi, i have ASUS G51JX-SZ167V with Intel® Core™ i5 Processor i5-520M. ThrotlleStop doesnt works for me. Can you help me?

 

trottlestop is working only partialy for dualcores
when you need overclock try setfsb

today i replaced original asus cooling "gum" with TTG-S104
temperature is now about 10-15C lower then before
so im going to create new personal record in 3dmark

 

I dont need to OC, i only want to stop throtlling.

 

throttling is problem only on quadcores ;-)

 

Private Reid wrote: "And finally, whats the highest (stable) clock you've got with the GTS 360M? I've read 630/2100/1625 (Core/Memory/Shader), that was from nfshp253. I've gotten 622/1498/2130 (Core/Shader/Memory), just for the sake of it..."

I have found no benefit to extreme overclocking of the video card, honestly and there is not save for a precious couple of FPS in extreme situations, so my "suggested" standard overclocking of 600/1600/2100 is where EVGA's Precision 1.9.6 puts my video card when I am playing games. For normal pursuits I just leave the controller to decide where and what to do with the settings and frankly I don't see much difference between OEM settings and the suggested overclocking settings as above.

I have tested my card, however, to find out just how "high" high can go a couple times, and it does not survive anything higher than 630/1625/2125 settings...it will crash and have to be reset (restarted and cooled off) anytime I have tried settings higher than that.

The newest BETA driver seems to be extra strong in terms of overclocking, as I did test 3DMark06 recently just for grins @ 630/1625/2125 and it survived and scored just over 10K DMarks, 10,227 to be exact...I screwed up and restarted the computer before I did a screen shot of the score though, and next time I tried the test it scored 9,854 DMarks, so I backed it off, figuring that it really wasn't happy up there that high, to the normal OC for any game or test and it scores in the 9,500+/- 500 DMarks-range there, consistently.

That was the first time I've tested the settings in quite a while, with 3DMark06, that is, as I tend to stay away from "testing for testing's sake"...maybe it's important to see "how high is high" with a given setting, but I think that it is hard on the hardware itself to overdo testing. Anytime a notebook is capable of 9,500 to 10,000 DMarks like mine is I think that is plenty good for any game that I have, any game that I play consistently, so for COD:WAW, GTA:IV, Mafia II, and the legacy GTA games that I own along with the standard fare Crysis, etc I am perfectly happy to leave things at the nominal suggested overclocking and not worry about FPS and enjoy the games!

 

This was you, wasn't it?

I agree, the CPU carries out the processes that create explosion's and "action" where-as the GPU makes all those thing look realistic. Although I found a increase in FPS, it would have been during high "action" scenes And that is why I like the tip

Be Careful! But if all goes well, please post what you found

@ rexrzer727 I leave my GPU at standard clocks while gaming as well, but I used MSI Afterburner to OC and then played Mirror's Edge. I should have taken some screenshot's but:

At Standard Clocks: Av FPS = ~35
At 600/1443/2010: Av FPS = ~42
At 615/1480/2100: Av FPS = ~46

46 FPS is very nice Although I don't play with those settings.

 

@PrivateReid, no wonder I can remember the numbers so clearly, because it was me! Seriously, I didn't know that I was the one who concocted the numbers! Don't try those extreme settings, as it will fry your GPU if used for gaming. Those numbers were only used for benchmarking with 3DMark 06 and 3DMark Vantage, which does not utilize the GPU at 100% all the time unlike games.

 

Just out of curiousity, how high temp wise can you let your GPU run, before you begin seeing problems? After my cooling pad broke, I was getting as high as 91 degrees Celcius when playing League of LEgends, and I noticed that I was getting FLASHING BLACK screen every so often and it was creeping me out so I did some research, and that can be caused by overheating... So I changed some settings in the Nvidia Control Panel and now it heats up to about 85 degrees C, (With the decreased settings there is no noticable performance loss) no more black screens

 

Darn, guess it was just a streak of luck, I used EVGA to overclock to 600, 1600, 2100 today, tried playing Just Cause 2, Driver Crash, restarted BAM bluescreen Bad Pool Caller, (Due to the Driver Crashing) tried EVGA again same thing, all well guess it wasn't meant to be

Laptop runs fine without any modified settings


Oh ya by the way, sometimes I visit, my dad and he has a wireless router... It must hate me, I have to use the OpenDNS dns, because my laptop can't use the one provided by the dads router... Doesn't that sound odd? lol

 

260.xx works purrrfectly, sorry about the previous post about the new driver, my bad.

So, my "Express Gate" still works after clean Install @_@!
what went wrong? GO!

 

Express Gate is on a separate 'hidden partition' on your HD, and you must completely overwrite the HD with Disk Utility/Disk Management (ie a full format, not a quick format) to rid the HD of the hidden partition. You probably still have the Recovery Partition intact also, as you seem to have installed the "Clean Install" on the C Drive only, which is OK really, no harm, no foul...you simply still have the Recovery Partition and the Express Gate partition also,.

Those partitions are not seen with Disk Management by the way. You have to use a utility like Paragon's Hard Disk Manager Suite 2010, Acronis Disk Director 11 Home, Paragon's Partition Manager 10, things like that to be able to "see" the hidden partitions...

I happen to own a huge suite of utilities for PC computers as part of my tech package when I am building or maintaining/trouble shooting PC computers, and out of the bunch of them if you want to have something to use on your computers that is easy to master, learn, and use, it's Paragon's Hard Disk Manager Suite 2010...you can get that at their main pages here:

Hard Disk Manager Suite – complete system management | PARAGON Software Group - disk partitioning, resize partition

With that suite you have everything you need to manage any hard disk situation, be it backup, recovery, copying/Cloning, repairing, preparing for an alternative OS, hiding partitions, partitioning the drive, etc etc...it's got it all and it's EASY to use.

I think if you purchase the suite you also get a perk, and that should be Paragon Alignment Tool (PAT) which you can use on regular platter HD's and especially on SSD hard drives, an invaluable utility as SSDs must be aligned correctly in order to function 100% optimally.

I am in no way affiliated with Paragon Group, by the way, but I've been using their utilities as a consumer and professional/IT person for more than 10 years, and they are reliable, have xlnt Tech Support when you run into issues not covered in the Help sections of their products (email based, and easy to use), their prices are very reasonable, in fact cheap mostly, and most of all THEY WORK and DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DO, where many utilities promise the "Moon" and give you "Hell" instead!

Anyway, that's my tidbit for the day for this group, and I stand by those words 100%....

 

result with new drivers


EDIT: 645/1633/2115

 

Thank you very much, Sir Rex, I think "Sir" suits you

Yes, you are correct I didn't do my homework

 

Do do with Express Gate:

Hacking Express gate (Asus Splashtop) - Phoronix Forums

Hacking Express Gate for a cmd, and fixed resolution.

On stock clocks I get 99oC with Mirror's Edge after 1/2 hour of play.

 

You're welcome, as usual, I aim to paleeeze! However, the "Sir" deal...hmmm, I dunno about that...? Can't we just keep it informal and KUHL!?

I really do appreciate the compliments, don't get me wrong, but elevating me to a sublime position vs the other members here just doesn't suit me, as I am just like the rest of you in most respects. Considering that I also own one of these great G51JX-A1 computers makes me just one of the gang here and I do enjoy interacting with each and every one of you.

It's really my turn to thank you all for giving me the opportunity to *use* some of my vast experience in IT and PC computers(ing) in general to help us all with suggestions, fixes, and improvements when it comes to issues that are common to all of us. I in no way am giving myself a superior position in any of the discussions we seem to be getting into, and yes, I have been *wrong* on occasion, and I learn new things every day here, reading both privately and on the 'Net and through my work as a corollary adjunct to participating here in this forum discussion group.

And I happen to get a big virtual "kick" out of assisting others and giving insights that I may have that are worthwhile with respect to both these great notebook computers, how Asus structures their own particular brand/version of IT tech, contemporary design and function, and then there's Windows itself too...a vast body of work that I in no way have any great amount of knowledge about. I mean my gosh, it was just a couple years ago that I was working as an Apple Technician and disdained anything at all to do with the "dark side" of computing, the OS, the machines, and most definitely the IT work also.

However times and people change, and I am eternally grateful that I have delved headlong into Windows OS, PC computers of all types, including notebooks, servers, business machines and applications, and desktops, where I have developed a nice niche for design and building my own brand/version of PC desktops that I truly, really enjoy working with, making all sorts of versions of them for clients, work associates, and family and friends alike...that's a real turn-on for me personally, and I honestly can't say enough about how much learning I've HAD to do in order to put together that type of machinery/computers/desktops/servers and the like...it's been a "crash course" in PC science and IT theory and applications for the past 4 years that has been quite a rush for me, honest it has, and it's not stopping anytime soon I can safely say!

In fact I can guarantee everyone reading these words that my interest in PC science and application has far from peaked, and I am these days working with some advanced, interesting PC applications that involve using the newest Xeon, Westmere, and the new "Nehalem" CPU's that have not 4 cores per CPU but 6 Cores, and 12 with dual CPU servers on a multi-plane chassis/motherboard being pioneered by SuperMicro and Advanced Science Technology Corp's...and these machines are indeed exciting, rewarding, and awe-inspiring to work with and on!

There's a lot that I am doing that I cannot begin to get into on these fine forum pages, and rightfully so, but I have an active and ongoing interest in Asus computers/notebooks/netbooks/design in general, and the new products coming out of Taiwan with the Asus name on them this coming year are going to blow some minds, this I *can* assure you about, and I look forward to their release and my own participation with them as time goes on.

For example have any of you seen the press on the new G53xx and G73Jxx notebooks with the newest of the new Fermi nVidia GTS-460M video boards on an HM55 Intel notebook chassis/motherboard with not only SATA 6 interface, but also with USB 3.0 and some newer models not released yet that will also incorporate 3D technology, eSATA, and dual CPU/dual HD systems on a notebook framework?

Here's some recent press on the G73Jxx with the nVidia 460M 1.5GB DDR5 video card setup that *has already* been released and is for sale right now at Amazon.com and other resellers (select though they may be) that you may or may not be aware of, and it does make for interesting reading!

ASUS G73JW-A1 Review

The information on the G53Jxx model is still sketchy as of this moment, but it is supposed to be coming into the USA market with only a 1368 x 768 pixels "HD" LD 3D capable display vs our familiar 1920 x 1080 pixels full HD LED LCD display on the present G51JX-A1/X5 computers that are still in the resale channel, as supplies dwindle down to zero and the market readies for the launch of the new models.

Center point and centerpiece to both the new notebooks however is that Asus is the 1st manufacturer to include/incorporate the newest nVidia Fermi 1.5GB DDR5-enhanced 460M notebook video board setup, which is supposed to rival and/or top (spec-wise anyway) the ATI/AMD 5870M notebook video card that is in the present G73Jxx models that are also being quickly phased out/sold out to the walls so to speak, readying the market for the new G73JW-xx models...and BOTH of the new notebooks from Asus will have 3D capability which IS a new, unique and exciting feature that will enhance our enjoyment and media abilities of the new notebooks, so I am really looking forward to this new technology.

That is what is going on right now, and people are of course clamoring for the release of the new G53JWxx notebook, but info is still not as firmed up on these as it is much better on the new G73JWxx series, which as I mentioned you can purchase right now at Amazon.com for $1745.xx with free shipping:

Amazon.com: ASUS G73JW-A1 Republic of Gamers 17.3-Inch Gaming Laptop - Black: Electronics

That's all for tonight, the most that I can grab and publish here for all your edification, but as things mature and people get more information on the G53JW-xx notebooks I'll be right there to help get the story straight, from the horse's mouth so to speak!

Good night, and have a great weekend...I'm off to watch a BluRay movie on my G51JX-A1 and enjoy some of the tech that my machine is capable of right now!

Like WOW oneb1t!!!!!!!!!

You really have it going on here with those numbers on the nVidia video card, in fact I've not seen a test with the Core Clock at 645 yet that survived to tell the facts, but it looks like your test DID work, and came out very high, to boot!

WAY TO GO!!

 

Ohhh, im on dial-up speed at the moment so, those pictures wont load. but 645/1633/2115... thats insane! Congratz!

 

Do you happen to have measurements for the screen? Color gamut, ect..?

Anyone know if there are differences between the Model variants, A1, X1, X2, X3 ect. regarding the LCD included?

Could someone post the lcd model in their laptops?

Steps:
right click my computer and select properties
go to device manager, monitors
double click generic PnP monitor
details tab, hardware ID on the pull down panel.

That displays a model number for the panel.

Regards,

Mike

 

its all about temperature
i ordered 2 packs of DealExtreme: $5.06 Pure Copper PC Memory Heat Spreader (8-Pieces)
and better thermal paste

my goal is to make 11k in 2006

 

Are you going to use them for RAM? or something else?

I <3 DealExtreme. I've probably spent close to $1000 on "crap" from them.

By crap I mean, things I didn't really need, like http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11315

 

im going to improve cooling system with them and make something like this

Imageshack - img0788q.jpg

EDIT:
vantage on 645/1633/2115
max temp is 88C but im not used 100% fan speed hack
my shaders can run around 1700+ if temperature is lower than 75C tested by few 410/1700/1350 3dmark runs

 

EDIT:
vantage on 645/1633/2115
max temp is 88C but im not used 100% fan speed hack
my shaders can run around 1700+ if temperature is lower than 75C tested by few 410/1700/1350 3dmark runs

Well my man, there goes yer warranty! I guess you don't give a hoot about the warranty then, you crazy mutherfletcher! Hah-Hah! I know that my Shaders will NOT go over 1625 without a big old driver CRASH, and believe me I've tried every combo possible without doing the under-Mhz on Core and Memory clocks like you are speaking of.

In fact my system will not even perform as good @630/1625/2140 as it does @ 625/1615/2125Mhz, strange as that sounds...methinks it just gets too hot at the higher settings and shuts down the video card because I've seen results as low as the 9200-8800-mark when I've just gone too high and run Vantage or 2006...

A reboot and adjustment back to 625/1615/2125Mhz gets it back to 10K+, but that is IT...will not go any higher, and I'm certain it's because the temps just get critical, especially in Vantage. Are you using two displays to chart temps? That's the only way I could see my temps, ie using a 2nd display (VGA in my case) with the GPU-Z graphics on that one, the test on the LCD of the laptop...?

Anyway, it's nice to see one of the nVidia GTS-360M's hit 10,700+ 3DMarks, a place I never thought I'd see one go...way to go, you have the highest Core and Shader settings I've ever seen on a successful run in 3DMark 2006, Congratulations!

I want to keep my 3-year warranty so I won't be doing those copper mods like you are going to be doing, but it IS enlightening to see a notebook like the one in that jpg you posted from Imageshack.com, isn't it? You will have to be very, very careful doing those mods however, you know that right?

I encourage you to use a grounding strap when doing the mods, as in one that plugs into a wall socket like my Pro Strap does...that way you won't be shorting out components with static electricity, which copper generates a bunch of! Like TONS of static electricity, so beee careful!

Anyway, good luck doing those mods, and by all means post back here after you get some crazy results in, which you should be getting if the mods are done right as rain...

 

Ok, I figured out how to load those pictures.. it took me 11 minutes. Anyway, that picture of the the laptop was insane, but cool.

I saw this ( LAPTOP VACUUM USB CASE COOLING FAN COOLER PAD Notebook - eBay Laptop Cooling Pads, Fans, Heatsinks, Cooling, Components, Computers. (end time 04-Oct-10 05:02:31 AEDST) ) on eBay, Ive never been one for buying cooling fans, because I made one myself which works fine. but they lured me in with "...The cyclonic vortex suction technology is similar/identical to those used in vacuum cleaners...", looks pretty cool. but im not sure:

a) how it connects to the laptop
b) could it not damage the fan, if it's sucking faster than the fan can spin, causing the fan to be spun by the cooler and not the voltage given to it.

as, for those ram coolers on dx, I think I might get them, along with Laptop Notebook Fan-less Thermal Cooling Mat - Black - eBay, Other, Laptop Accessories, Computers. (end time 16-Oct-10 13:20:19 AEDST) I saw them before on DX and thought they wouldn't work because their blocking the flow of air for the fan, they use Sodium sulfate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in them, which is interesting.

I'm thinking: rip apart the cooler (after it's been in the fridge for a while) feed the crystals into a tube, and run that tube along inside the laptop, with a small pump. Unfortunately the majority of the heat storage capacity is in the phase change from solid to liquid at 32oC, so, it will just be a liquid cooling system for my laptop, that has good thermal conductivity and doesn't conduct electricity (like water cooling).

See, it's my birthday coming up Oct 27, so I made a birthday list, which my parent hate because it all on eBay or DX I'll give you a little run down

Basically, I want a 7xUSB hub inside my laptop and connected to that I want
- 64 GB USB Drive
- Digital TV Tuner
- Small Model Pump (I haven't found yet)
- Flexible LED strip (for some ambient lighting )
- Touchscreen ( I found one, but it was the wrong height)
- One to replace the USB port taken byt the Hub
- One left over

A laptop skin ( I get bored easily. I'm going to include the lighting bars but change the colours of the LED's depending on the skin

A de-solderer for everyday use.

NiMH batteries x24 connected 12 in series then the 2 packs in parallel. connected to plug the same size as my laptop plug, for a travel battery pack! As long as the actual battery isn't connected the 14.4 Volts will be more than enough and at 6Amps, I expect ~3 hours battery life.

9- Cell Battery Asus G51 - obviously

The Airline Hose tubing 4mmx10m with the Sodium sulfate, small pump, Artic Silver 5 (7g), Copper PC memory Spreaders with a Thermoelectric Cooling plate, and a switch for a complete cooling system!

Handheld Dremel

Kingston 4 GB DDR3 Laptop Ram, for 10Gb of ram

Laptop Vacuum USB Case Cooling Fan as a external cooling system (maybe)

Yer, you roughly get the idea. originally I wanted one of these : 4.8" LCD Touch Screen BT WIFI 3G MID UMPC BenQ S6 EMS - eBay, Laptops, Notebooks, Computers. (end time 13-Oct-10 06:16:37 AEDST) for "homework" purposes.

 

Woah, oneb1t, that's crazy overclocking. I'll have to go to some place cooler to try those speeds. I'm going to Hong Kong in about a month. Just for fun, I'll try to see if I can get even higher scores in room temperatures of around 12 degrees Celsius. Anyone here living in Alaska?

Does anyone know of any power consumption monitor (in watts) like Toshiba's Eco Utility which shows real time power consumption? This would be interesting to see how much the laptop is actually pulling when gaming heavily!

 

If someone has time, could you take some detailed pics of the G51JX internals? Especially the GPU and CPU areas.

Reid: I like the vacuum idea. Do you think reversing the voltage on this one might work? The motor is kinda in the way of exiting airflow. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888309

EDIT: nm, I think I got my answer: I'd have to rewire the motor and the design wouldnt be effective in reverse. I think I'll just make a duct out of sheet metal and use a regular case fan. :evilface:

 

I sent my G51JX-A1 laptop in for a new video card today, after I worked with a Supervisor at Asus Tech Support, and a nice tech named "Nicholas K." both, documenting some seriously bad error-yielding testing in OCCT v3.1.x and 3DMark06/Vantage testing sessions to add insult to injury. I had a feeling something wasn't right this weekend when my video card check-up went badly and I got some problems playing GTA:IV, and when I pursued the situation with software testing it just exemplified the errors I am getting from the VRAM system in a BIG way. It seems that the memory chips themselves have gone South for Winter, and they ain't comin' back either!

If any of you are familiar with OCCT v.3.1 it's got a tab for testing the VRAM specifically, and I tested mine @ 1800, 1900, and 2000Mhz with nominal Shader and Core settings (575/1575Mhz respectively for all tests), and WHAMO! At 1800Mhz I got 1120 errors, 1900Mhz 1674 errors, and the big BANG happened at 2000Mhz which generated 62,698 errors, all in a 4-minute test sequence window for each test! That's the biggest error generation test I've ever done on a video card that was still "working" condition! WOW! :GEEK:

Either my VRAM was manufactured and placed in the video card in a haphazard fashion, the video card was damaged prior to installation in my notebook somehow, such as being subjected to a strong electromagnetic field or heavy dose of static electricity, some anomaly such as that...OR the VRAM was just plain bunk VRAM that failed in normal use quickly, silently, and without any warning, and that is my speculation about what happened to the video card---I think the VRAM was no good from the get-go because the video card has never been out of the computer, and I certainly have not physically handled the card...it's been IN the computer and working since new except for the one occasion when the laptop was out of my hands and the motherboard and BlueTooth module were both replaced by AsusTek Service in Fremont, CA...so I dunno, I honestly can't imagine a tech damaging my video card so substantially during a board transplant process, as that wouldn't make much sense at all.

I have had my reservations about the card's performance since new, however, even though it *did* score 10,500+/- 3DMArks once, but ever since that original test session back in May/June 2010 I've had a feeling that it wasn't performing up to specification/potential. But not being someone who is constantly testing their machine I never really nailed it down until last night with those software tests, and that was some heavy-duty number of errors generated in just 4-minute OCCT v3.1 test sessions on the VRAM cycle!

62,000+ errors @ 2000Mhz means that at 2100Mhz for the Memory clock I was probably getting double or triple that amount of errors, and that was the key thing that I noticed playing GTA:IV Saturday night...I was getting some of the dreaded "white artifacting" on-screen during chase scenes and heavy action scenes, where parts of my LCD would just go "white-out" and then flash back to colors then back to "white-out", and that really alerted me to the possibility of having a bad card, right then and there. :rolleyes2:

That's the story, and my laptop is off already FedEx Next Day Air Saver, up to Fremont, CA 94538 with all those tests in a big envelope, documented one by one by one for the techs to see for themselves when they work on the laptop, and do their own testing with hardware machinery on the work bench. However I emailed the results, scanned and put into JPEGs to the Supervisor last night, so they will have double-doses of data on the video card's performance, or lack of it and all those errors, so I don't doubt for a moment that the card will be replaced with a new one. :smile:

Wouldn't it be KUHL if they sort of "mistakenly" inserted one of the new GTS-460M's (Fermi) instead of a legacy 360M in my computer, Hah-Hah! That would be very nice of them, don't you think? :laugh:

I'll be without the notebook all week, and if things to quickly should be getting it back early next week, ie about the 12-14th of the month, if not sooner, because Asus runs a tight ship up there in Fremont, CA 94538, at least both times my laptops have been there previously they were shotgunned through the facility in just 2 working days each time, once repairs were completed.

I will be using my wife's MacBook Pro this week it looks like, Hah! Back to a steady standby-yah? That will be a nice flashback for me, as I have to use it this week for writing assignments that I always take home with me from work, so she'll be relegated to one of my PC desktops for the week--we will "switch" roles, with me using her MBPro and she on the PC desktop. :smile:

It sort of makes me disappointed that this has happened to my laptop, but at least Asus has an xlnt RMA system/Tech Support system to help out and get the show back on the road quickly. I'll stay in touch with everyone here during the week, don't worry about that, and I'll see everyone later tonight after work...

 

I just prototyped an external fan system using 2 80mm diameter, 10mm deep fans in series. The duct was well fit to the computer's exhaust vent. No change in maximum GPU temp after gaming for 20 mins. Either the fans need to be much more powerful (40+ CFM) and placed in a parallel configuration or the BIOS fan profiles need to be edited. I think the latter will be the better performing option.

Has anyone looked into this?

 

Reversing the polarity of that would achieve similar effects as the vacuum one, it's a DC fan so there would be no complication switching the red and black wires. BUT! As you mentioned the design is not meant to do that and therefore the propeller is most likely shaped a certain way for best "pushing" performance, not pulling

and, I took picture's of the internals the day I got it

I also have close up's of each of the main systems:

cpu
gpu
heatsink
ram 1
ram 2
hhd
wireless

On Oct7 our internet goes back to ADSL2+, I'll upload them then, if anyone's interested.