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    ASUS ROG G752VS Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by Johnksss, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. wall_street

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    I getting the drives from my brother. Right now free > paying for new drive (unless i absolutely have to)
     
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    I downloaded Halo Wars 2 demo from windows default store.

    After install, clicked icon and run, black game window appears, and then closes itself, nothing happens.

    Why? Really upset, why you asus's driver does not have compatibility?

    How to fix?
     
  3. Mbh2030

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    Hello
    I just ordered My very Own G752VS RB-71 from HIDevolution with the Great @Donald@HIDevolution himself.
     
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    Hello everyone,

    I am thinking of buying a gaming laptop. Normally i would buy a desktop but i cant because I need to get it to work also in order to do crystallography simulations with Olex2 and to run MatLAB simulations on 2D HYSCORE spectra. The laptop that i have now is a lenovo Y500 and it is the one with only 1 graphics card. Both of those programs r really heavy and whenever i check the CPUs they seem to go to 100% (not all of them at once). My laptop has an i7 3rd generation with 8gb of ram and a geforce 650m gpu.

    So now the first question is: I was researching a lot about gaming laptops and all of them seem to have some problems. Razer overheating ASUS ROG some compatability MSI cheap plastics etc etc.

    from which company do u think that i should buy? Im thinking of ASUS. this model https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MR4W...UTF8&colid=66KEPQXCNV3F&coliid=I1D6K6A8C2YC80
    or this model https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01JIS7...olid=66KEPQXCNV3F&coliid=I1MQXDFO21V6PL&psc=1
    their difference is only on the generation of the i7. one is 6th generation the other is 7th and the price is 500 pounds lower

    I dont mind either if it is going to be 15 or 17 inches or how many kilos cause ill be cycling but not more than 5 [​IMG]

    Budgetwise i can spend around 2000 to 2500 pounds but cheaper is much appreciated

    The place ill be buying from is Amazon except if u know any better place from the UK.

    So im organising to buy the laptop around june or july.

    also if possible tell me only the latest ones that r good enough with 7th generation processor and to be intel

    a nvidia 1070 would be great also cause in general i keep my laptop for around 4 to 5 years.

    i play all kind of different games and i would like to play all the new games also the ones that they say that have awesome graphics.

    cheers
     
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    Hi,
    I'm looking to buy either an Asus G752VS or an MSI GT73VR.
    I prefer the Asus G752VS as it is more silent than the MSI.

    However I'm very concerned about all ports beeing on the right side of the G752VS... It must be very annoying for right hand user when you put an external mouse & pad on the right and you consitently or often hit the plugs of cables.

    Can a G752VS owner confirm me how annoying it is ? all feedback are welcome

    Thanks in advance !
     
  6. Mobius 1

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    if you buy this kind of laptop, I expect you to love the noise

    get msi :D
     
  7. Angelos

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    so u r saying that the MSI gt is quieter than the asus rog g752? i have those two in my mind also and i dont know which one is better to buy
     
  8. Juhwork

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    Absolutely the opposite.
    Asus G752VS about 37.5db with 1070
    MSI GT73VR about 42db with 1070

    But to me the main concern could be all ports on the right side for the Asus...
     
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  9. cronusk

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    I use a wireless mouse so not really an issue for me.

    Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
     
  10. Miguel Pereira

    Miguel Pereira Notebook Consultant

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    Nop, there are ports on the left side. My mouse is connected to the left side and the cord passes in the back.

    And I find the laptop to be really quiet with throttlestop.

    Enviado do meu MHA-L29 através de Tapatalk
     
  11. ColinMacLaren

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    I will refund my GL502VS due to the throttling and battery drain issues. I can get my hands on a G752VS-BA191T (FullHD 120Hz, 6700hq, GX 1070, 256GB SSD + 1 TB HDD) for a good price.

    However, I wonder if the Skylake G752VSs suffer from the same issues.

    Furthermore I'd like to know wether this model features the "Vapor Chamber" cooling solution, an SPDIF combojack like some MSI models and a G-Sync-enabled display.

    Thanks for our help.
     
  12. Mobius 1

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    Battery drain will happen if you OC CPU

    The 240w power supply is not enough for 75w cpu + 115w gpu.

    The vapor chamber dumps too much heat onto the CPU, so you need to be careful when loading both component. Vapor chamber is ONLY on the GPU, and not the CPU. CPU cooling is anemic with two thin pipes.

    Also take note that you need to repaste to get decent temps while overclocking.
     
  13. ColinMacLaren

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    I don't want to overclock. I thought only the i7-6820k version can be overclocked anyway. I am just talking about playing a demanding game that pushes a lot of frames like Overwatch or Quake Champions without VSync/Gsync.
     
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    Why would you NOT get the HK version?
     
  15. ColinMacLaren

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    Because I can get a 6700HQ version in '"as new" condition with limited warranty for only 1.233 EUR whereas the 6820HK model is not even available here in Germany.
     
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    See!!
    6700hq is probably one of the worst mobile i7 in history. This with 1070. Expect the difference will increase!!
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. ColinMacLaren

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    A 4 Ghz CPU is faster then a 2,6GHz CPU? You don't say...

    Getting the 6820hk version is not worth almost twice the price of the whole damn laptop. Period.

    My question was:

    Running at stock settings without repasting does the G752VS stay cool and keep its battery's charge during gamign sessions?

    Yes/No- Question. Thank you.
     
  18. Miguel Pereira

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    I would say that the battery won't be a problem, and the Temps I guess won't be either.

    Anyway, I would recommend to undervolt the cpu, nothing to lose.

    You got a great deal on that laptop. The 6700 isn't that bad, it'll run everything with ease. Maybe you won't get 120hz in everything, but it won't be a problem.

    If the Temps are great, you can try to keep max turbo when using all cores with throttlestop. It'll make the cpu a lot better.

    Enviado do meu MHA-L29 através de Tapatalk
     
  19. Mobius 1

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    stock setting is ok, runs reasonably cool

    240w is enough for non oc + 1070, but check the included power supply rating
     
  20. ColinMacLaren

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    Power supply is 230V.

    Do you have any good voltage curve you would recommend for the GTX 1070?
     
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    hello guys do you have settings for throttlestop? mine resets everytime i shutdown/restart
     
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    Forgot this setting

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    Does anyone have the esupport folder for G752VS? I found one link which had it, but when i try to install anything, it says "drivers are not compatible with this device". I know i can just download the drivers from the website, but the software is what im looking for. I need the setup for sonic studio II, and its not available on the website.
     
  25. Miguel Pereira

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    I found that software in a private website somewhere. Just Google it.

    Enviado do meu MHA-L29 através de Tapatalk
     
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    The vs is only £70 more? It's a more powerful GPU and you get a free mouse and bag so go for that.

    Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hello guys,

    Planning to get 7700hq version of G752vs, so I would like to ask how is the noise development at that model? Would I feel the difference a lot after my G750jz?
     
  29. Miguel Pereira

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    I don't know how it compares with that model, but I got the g752vs because of the noise. It's a really quiet laptop for the power it has.

    Its miles quieter then my PS4 pro and a clevo p670 that I had before and returned.

    Enviado do meu MHA-L29 através de Tapatalk
     
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    Well, nothing can be compared with Clevo. I was a Clevo user and I am really surprised how much they do not are about fan noise after so many years of building gaming laptops.

    My Asus G750JZ after Clevo was a revolution and it is very silent and decent as well. Also Optimus works like a charm so since I am a noise sensitive consumer, I am thinking to get the normal G752vs (No OC) instead of getting G701vik or MSI GT73vr.
     
  31. Miguel Pereira

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    Exactly. Clevo makes really decent laptops, but their fans are low quality.

    Anyway, gt73vr has good reviews also if you get the gtx1070 version, so I guess either would be a good option.

    My g752vs is really acceptable in the noise department. Specially with undervolting, that keeps the temperatures of the cpu lower.

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    I'm sure you have seen or heard about all the failed fans in some of the Msi Models :cool: Quality can mean so much.
     
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    No doubt about it. From my limited experience Asus uses some of the best fans in the business.

    There were even some users here that changed their p870 fans with Asus fans to improve noise development. It's my main critique of clevo, for someone that also values the noise that a laptop produce and not only performance at any cost.

    Msi has some low quality laptops in the cheap versions. But I'm guessing it's not the case with the gt73vr series. Or was it?

    Enviado do meu MHA-L29 através de Tapatalk
     
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    When I posted about failed Msi fans. A good portion Gt73vr is affected. High clicking noise.
     
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    Well, I didn't see GT73vr with my own eyes but I saw GT72vr and I was disgusted because of the material and the build quality of the laptop. It seems that I need to try my luck with G752vs and pray to get a less backlight bleeding screen.

    Do you think that within 1-2 months, will we get an announcement of the newer version of G752vs? I do not remember the Asus policy but as far as I remember they always announce the gaming series around August, September?
     
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    How good is the cooling? Is it good at stock and overclocked?
    Cheers :)
     
  38. ColinMacLaren

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    I am currentyl trying to get may G752VS setup with an Oculus Rift.

    Currently I cannot even get the two sensors to work reliably on the USB-ports. One sensor is always either reverting to USB 2.0 or I receive a bad tracking error message.

    I am thinking about using the Thunderbolt 3.0 with a USB c- to Type A-Hub. Does anyone have experience with this setup and can recommend a good hub?
     
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    Anyone found a reliable solution to the whole losing touchpad gesture funtionality in Windows 10 with this laptop issue?
     
  41. cronusk

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    Download synaptics. Disable the precision and restart every time you switch on. I got a little exited when I flashed the 310 bios coz I thought it fixed the issue. But it did not.

    Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    Does Windows 7 run fine on it? (e.g., no driver issues)
     
  43. Mobius 1

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    It does run but I'm not sure if you can find any drivers for it
     
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    Maybe one can use the Win10 drivers on Win7?
     
  45. Mobius 1

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    I'm not entirely sure on that. It might be possible on some drivers. YMMV.

    I'd try giving driver booster by iobit (I know it looks sketchy, but the program is legit) and/or driverscloud to automatically search for compatible drivers.

    ASUS support page doesn't give you the option to choose anything other than Windows 10 for drivers.
     
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    Hey guys!

    Bought a used Asus G752VS that have a nasty scratch in the lid. Looked online and you can buy it as a spare part. The question is how hard it is to change the lid yourself? I have some knowledge about computers but I dont want to break anything.

    Br J
     
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    Hey, i was trying to do everything here posted, but my Lap (G752VS-XB72K OC Edition) keep BSOD if i do not OVERVOLT the CPU, yes, i must "live" with it overvolted because if not, BSOD that says: WHEA UNCORRECTABLE ERROR immediately i, even, reset it to default. I know, by some reading, that that error code (WHEA...) it relates when the CPU is not receiving much voltage (undervolted too much) but i think my lap has some internal problems regarding the voltage supplied to the CPU (within the BIOS or something) because i am not undervolting it! Though i have done everything i could possibly do to "reset to default voltage" even reflash previous version of BIOS, uninstalling every bloatware (Game Center, for example) XTU and TS (uninstalled and installed again to see the changes in voltage) but everything seems to be "perfect" when i reset the voltage it just show normally: 0.00v. But when i game with 0.00v the BSOD is shown. So i ended up figuring out that if i want to game, i must overvolt a bit the CPU in TS:+0.028v in the CPU core and Cache... One may say that if the temps are low, it is just fine, but the CPU temps reach 95C gaming even having this problem!. Maybe all of this came because i had not used a clean windows install from the begining (i have purchased this laptop used) so i am planning on formatting the C drive and fresh install Windows, thats my last hope and i didnt do it because i have so many games that i do not want to delete....

    The only thing that would left to fix (after i fix the bad voltage thing) will be the Temps... trying to do a real undervolt.

    What do you guys think about this problem i have? I know that this is not normal behaviour.
     
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    You have the OC edition, which already is Overclocked, which means you have little or no headroom to undervolt, so as you describe your limited undervolt range requiring eventual overvolt is perfectly fine behavior.

    At normal stock CPU clock you can undervolt much better than at top OC. As you change the CPU speed from stock, to slight OC, on up through top OC, you will pass through undervolt, to stock voltage or zero under/over volt, until you may need to pass into the overvolt range.

    Different generations of CPU have gone from undervolt at stock to needing overvolt nearing the top OC, to now where I can still maintain a slight undervolt at a sizeable OC, and I am satisfied with that and stop OC'ing there.

    You can then push through further and hit the point where you need overvolt, but for me I am happy enough with the OC performance within the undervolt / stock voltage range.

    I find that overvolting quickly increases the thermal cooling requirements, and I prefer not wasting my time re-pasting or modding for improved cooling to reach the absolute heights in OC, as those settings are usually too high - to demanding on cooling - or too noisy - for me to run all of the time.

    I'd rather back off from the top OC and overvolt and stay in the stock paste / cooling range with a slight undervolt at top OC. This is for me the optimal OC / noise range to run all of the time.

    On the GT73VR with a 7820HK, -15mv undervolt with stock paste and cooling at 4.5ghz is plenty fine for me, and even better is setting the OC to 4.2ghz and -50mV undervolt. :)

    For my daily use experience the top OC vs balanced speed vs noise, the top OC performance isn't something I can tell the difference vs slightly lower OC while undervolted performance, so I'd rather run cooler and quieter instead of pushing the CPU all of the time.

    And, not all CPU's of the same model undervolt as well as others, which can be disappointing - you can always test for this right off first thing when you get a new laptop, and if it's a really bad undervolter, return it and get another one - hopefully the luck of the draw will provide you a better CPU undervolter the second time.

    If you are able to run your laptop with a slight overvolt, and keep the CPU from thermal throttling under heavy use, it's really not a problem, you just have a CPU that doesn't undervolt well and needs overvolt for stability.

    If that bothers you, return it and get another sample, maybe you'll get a better one on the next sample. It's good to keep in mind that if everything else about your current sample is satisfying, good cosmetics, low IPS backlight bleed, and everything works 100%, you might end up getting a better undervolting CPU but have other problems that are more problematic.

    Good luck :)
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    I understand a much better now, thank you very much for your explanation. But even knowing all of that i find it not normal because the CPU Throttle, i resetted everything to stock to see (3.6GHz at max WITH Turbo Boost!) The laptop's temp reach 89C with that way and Throttle every now and then (I know this because i play Final Fantasy XV with everything maxed out AND 4K textures, pushing the limits of this lap the hell out of it, the game uses up to 29GB RAM, 7GB VRAM :eek:) and in TS i see the cricle activate saying "TDP Throttle" and when playing for 15 minutes, the laptop gets really hot, then a very noticeable drop in framerate (from 50-55 FPs to 28-35 FPs) that may be normal some could say... At 3.6GHz reaching those temps (having done a repaste and cleaned dust already) is not normal i think. I just would like to play without CPU Throttling even if will need to lower the settings for some games... The undervolt (at least right now) is not an option due to instant BSOD and the repaste i have done a few weeks ago lowered the temps just 5C i noticed!!! WTF! The GPU temps max gets to 85C (hwInfo). Do you think if i fresh install windows i could possibly do an undervolt for real and so the temps, at least a bit? Thats my goal right now... Why is the CPU "requiring" more voltage as it is!? i don't really get it. :mad: :(
     
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    I don't think a Windows reload will help.

    If you can't undervolt at all, even -15mV? I had an Asus G750 that would only do a -15mV undervolt at stock out of the box, -25mV after a few months of use, and after 18 months it finally was stable at -50mV undervolt, but I wasn't thermal throttling either - as long as I waited for the auto fan speed spun up.

    You shouldn't be thermal throttling at all, but I have seen some situations where it gets triggered due to slow to act auto-fan settings, and Asus is the most likely to have this happen as they prefer quiet operation over cool operation.

    So I'd use hwinfo64 and log with 2 second interval and see how often you actually hit thermal throttling - it triggers and then doesn't reset unless you reset it via the hwinfo dialog - bottom left - which is what I do when benchmarking on Asus with slow fan auto speed - clear it after a few seconds and then once the fan spins up fast enough it will keep the CPU cool, until then it can quickly hit thermal throttle point and makes it look like it's doing it the whole time when looking at the logs shows it is below 93c - even in the 80's once the fans spin up.

    So, I'd work on adjusting the fan curve, if the Asus interface allows you now - I think it does - I haven't used it for a couple of years, and used 3rd party tools back then to accomplish the same.

    Anyway, as long as the fan speed spins up and cools the CPU below thermal throttling - if it hits it briefly it's not going to affect performance through the use - benchmark or game - as long as the fans stay spun up. Or you can override the auto fan and switch on 100% fan's, but that's noisy so see if you can adjust the fan curve in the ROG tools.

    I'm not surprised the Asus paste wasn't beat much by custom paste, as that has been my experience too. LM might improve it further but it's not worth the risk to me.

    It can take a few times to get a good / best result in re-pasting a new laptop, as you get familiar with the fastening and spread of the paste, so if you aren't happy - think a bit on it and try again.

    Now that you have repasted you will need to eventually again, as the enthusiast pastes don't last as long as the stock pastes before showing rising temps, so maybe wait till that happens, but be prepared with a new paste / plan to attack it again.

    Other than that, lift the back higher than the front to encourage convective air flow, it can improve significantly the overall temps, even more than applying external fan cooling. The front should be an inch or more off the surface to avoid trapping heat between the surface materials and the laptop, and at least 2" in back for convective cooling effects.

    You could try also setting the multipliers manually. Try 35x x 4 to start, and try only raising the Core 0 1x at a time, and raise Core 1 1x after the Core 0 is raised 2x-3x, and the same for Core 2 / 3, stagger the multiplier so that for 1 or 2 thread tasks it has high multiplier and then lower multiplier for 3 and 4 thread loads. This will reduce the need for more voltage and keep temps down. Customize the CPU tuning to get best performance under most loads while reducing need for overvolt and higher resulting temps overall.

    Good luck :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2018
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