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    ASUS ROG G752VS Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by Johnksss, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. Mobius 1

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    Screen is not bad

    Here blow calibration, I will upload the ICC profile for you guys tomorrow




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    Hi guys.
    Im thinking in take this model. I have only one concern with this laptop. Some review and people are saying that the temps jump to 90-95ºC.
    So, can someone tell me the temps of the cpu and gpu while gaming, with the "extreme mode on" in gaming center.
    I dont will overclock manually, only use extreme mode.

    Thanks.
     
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    I might need to get with you on this stuff at a later time. :)
     
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    Mine were pretty toasty at first, but after a repast they calmed down some what.
     
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    What did you run to make it hit 95c?

    Asus fan profiles are slow to respond to keep the noise of the cooling fans low, it takes a few seconds longer to get the fans to ramp up and drop the CPU temperature down, but it will.
     
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    I think I forgot to backup the icc when I return the asus

    Fuk...

    I look for icc profile on ssd again, will report back
     
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    Nothing actually. That's how I got it. I played around with it for a day or so, then took it apart to investigate.
    I think it's more of how the vapor chamber sits on the gpu and cpu. Once readjusted and repasted it dropped to more respectable temps.

    Same thing with the P870DM2/3

    And you are absolutely right about the slow to react fan profiles. They need a bit of a reconfigure.


    Ok, thanks.
     
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    It's on the GPU, but only soldered on top of 2 CPU heatpipe
     
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    Really? Because I thought it was attached to to a flat copper base that was then attached to the vapor chamber?
     
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    Nope, if you see the CPU pipes from the side, the vapor chamber is an extension and only soldered on.

    GPU offloads too much heat to CPU in my unit.
     
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    I get that it's a copper plate on top of dual vacuum sealed pipes on top of a soldered vapor chamber.

    I was talking about the GPU only. This part....
    I thought you were saying the vapor chamber was sitting directly on the gpu die.
     
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    I wonder what the vc is for then? The gpu cooling still uses two heatpipes.
     
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    So, with a stock laptop, without repaste him, the temps are higher? Because in my country dont are any store that repaste the cpu and gpu, so, if i buy the laptop, i will stay with the stock/factory thermal repaste. It can handle the temps of the cpu and gpu?
     
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    At stock, yes. But if you want full performance, you need to disassemble and repaste.

    What country/city you from?
     
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    Portugal. Here they launched only one version of the G752VS, but a great version, the oc edition with 120Hz screen and g sync, ssd raid 0, and with a free mouse headphones and backpack. In my country there are not any store that make an disassembly of the laptop and repaste. Im not also capable to make that. I have before the G752VY, and with stock thermal the temps was so good, the max in gaming, 70ºC cpu and gpu only a few more.
    With the new G752VS, in some reviews they say that the temps stay between 70ºC cpu and gpu in extreme mode, but other reviews says that goes to 90-95ºC. There are many reviews to this new model, but saying different things about the temperature. I dont will overclock much, only use "extreme mode" in gaming center, and, if i sometime overclock, it will be to 3.9 Ghz.
    Do you think that the G752Vs stock can handle this? It have double fans and mobile vapor chamber.
     
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    So, how is the noise of this laptop on normal gaming? Quite enough?
     
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    Seems quiet enough for me. Alot quieter than my P870DM3
     
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    Do you have any underclock on it? Its stock or did you repaste? Can you game on it without headphones with minor disconfort?
    thanks!
     
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    Mine ran hot before the repast and removal of plastic cover, after that it ran normal.

    Yes, you can game without headphones on. :), but that is only my personal opinion.
     
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    Which laptop are you talking about? The P870DM (removed plastic cover), or the G752VS? :D
     
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    We are talking about the G752VS. And the plastic cover in question was talked about earlier in this thread. There is even a video about it. :)
     
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    Yeah, I saw that one, it should have been left off in manufacturing, it's a waste of plastic :)

    The inside the bottom case plastic removal in the P870DM seems more effective to improve cooling.

    In the context of the G752VS, I would think the fans wouldn't be noisy at all for gaming.

    On the P870DM, the headphones wouldn't be enough... unless they came with a 30' cord, and you could put 30' and a room between you and the laptop o_O
     
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    Not sure why they even put that on myself.

    Nope, that part works fine and dandy on mine.

    Well, there are some that any hint of fan is noise. So I leave room for them.

    I don't know about all that. This room is already noisy and And I don't even hear my fans like that since it has it's own cooler.
     
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    hi guys i m new to this forum, i m getting my g752vs next week, the one i ordered is with 16gb ram. i know it has 4 slots, so 1 slot with 16 and 3 empty
    if u open the back cover, there is only 2 empty slots, the other remaining empty slot is inside on the other side
    and i bought the hyper x kingston 16 gb to install it alongside with the other one
    so can i install it on any empty slot from the one in the back of the laptop? isnt better to open the laptop and install it just next to the other one?
    and there is a way or an order of installing ram, maybe to put the better ram on the 1st slot ...??
    help plz cz i m confused :)
     
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    So, I just got my G752VS! :D
    Quick questions:

    1- It seems to be FULL of bloatware. Should I just make a fresh Windows 10 install?
    2- Intel XTU is not installing, just stops there innactive, any ideas?
    3- How to acess UEFI?
     
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    1. Yes
    2. Clean uninstall XTU using Revo, Disable secure boot, install XTU
    3. Smash F2, F1, Del, Backspace, Enter, keys on boot

    If anyone wonders, the laptop is able to boot Windows 7 UEFI-CSM or BIOS mode
     
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    So, i got xtu to work and everything is fine. I'm looking into undervolting synce low noise is my priority.

    But the problem is that my definitions dont stick. If i restart windows xtu is back to 0.

    Isnt there a way to oc and manage mv in the bios of this laptop? I entered bios but it was a really basic text bios. Doesnt a 2016 laptop have a xpto uefi bios?
     
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    @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER
     
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    After you clicked Apply to the settings, did you Save it as a named Profile? XTU / and it's service needs the settings to be saved in a named profile to be used at boot time.
     
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    hmm, when I test the G752VS the setting stick though


    xtu is not needed actually, just click "extreme" in the asus app gaming center overclock mode - this is applied to bios and automatic (no need to reapply on restart)

    then you need to default the voltage to default in throttlestop (asus set the overclock voltage too high)
     
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    @Miguel Pereira

    That's why I uninstall the Asus/MSI gaming app, and go with discrete tools, like XTU / AB / TS, having more than one tool able to "tune" can get them working against each other randomly.

    The fan tuning included with the MSI/Asus app needs to be spun out, like Silent (MSI tool for fans), so we can do away with the AIO vendor app - which really just installs the guts of XTU/AB anyway.

    If you pick an XTU Profile, Apply it, and reboot it will remember the profile and apply the settings during boot, and then I exit the systray tool for XTU / AB after boot to stop both of their monitoring threads from running as well as hwinfo.

    You only want one of those running too - if you have multiple monitoring tools running they can block on reading data while someone else is reading too.
     
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    Ok, ok, thanks for the help!

    As far as I've seen, I think I prefer to use the TS option. I've been experimentating with the stock win10 installation to decide how I'll make my clean one.
    And that settles it. I'll go for an undervolting to reduce the noise, and 3.6/3.8ghz is more then enough for the games I'm playing right now.
    I'll refrain from repasting since i'm under warranty period, and the temps with unvervolt are ok. I don't really care for benchmark numbers.

    About the 1minute mod for the G752VS, wont that mod make the air to stop circullating in the rest of the chassis?
     
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    So, just had a little time to try the machine and tweak a bit after installing the windows again. Here are my numbers with 3.8ghz CPU and +60/+200mhz on the GPU. The CPU has a undervolt of -125mv on core and cache.
    This will be the quiet mode. I have to try a true OC mode, but for now this is more then I need for any game.

    The temps are great, I'll refrain for doing a repaste or taking the plastic cover for the fans on the bottom as long as temps keep like this.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The rest of the components are already cooled by the chassis, there's no need for those fans to pull air over them.

    Without the bottom panel removed, the G752VS draws air from some hole in the keyboard or hinge assembly. Can't exactly remember where. This doesn't move air anywhere inside the laptop, only from outside and directly to the fans (but in a significantly more restrictive manner compared to the 1 minute cooling mod).




    Memory should go much higher than 200. I think around 500-525 still nets positive scaling.

    The way to check, run multiple firestrikes and record the scores before you increase the memory frequency. If you notice a decrease in score after you overclock the memory, back it down.


    CPU 4.1 w/ +80 core
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9883133
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9894445
     
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    So, my keyboard backlight goes off anytime I turn off the laptop. When I turn it on again I have to use FN+F4 to light it up again.
    Is a minor detail, but its anoying! Any idea?

    Most likelly some of the bloatwere I didn't intalled when I made a fresh windows install... Just used ATK drivers.
     
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    Hey! I got a G752VS and it has some problem with the back lights, when i turned on it first, the lights was strong every where, then later goes weak at the ROG logo and at the cooler the LED doesn't work. I tried turn on in the ROG Center but nothing. Can someone help ?
     
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    Can someone upload the G752VS esupport folders, please...
    I forgot to backup during clean install.
     
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    I didnt install rog center, since it messes with throttlestop, and the volts asus uses on stock are too high for this cpu. No need to have high temps. I dont mind the back lights. But if you find a way to make them on, please share.
     
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    Hi
    Hi Miguel. If use the laptop in "extreme" mode on gaming center what are the temps of the CPU? Im interested in this model, and the cpu at this speed, 3.8 ghz should also be fine for me. Have you notice any hoverheat or high temps? Thanks
     
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    Hi there!

    Well, without any changes and on extreme mode i think things get a little too toasty. I've seen 97°C on cpu after a long play session and the cpu throttles.

    The good news is that asus uses absurdly high voltage on their profiles. With a simple undervolting this laptop is great! I'm at 3.8ghz and some oc on the gpu, and after 3hours of witcher 3 on ultra cpu never goes above 85°C and gpu above 75°C. Averages are 80 for the cpu and 70 for the gpu.

    This is without repasting or anything, really. You just have to disable rog center and install throttlestop. ;)
     
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    Hello,
    I bought an asus rog g752vs rb71 from HIDEvolution. I wanted to buy a mouse and a cooling pad so I could use it on my bed when I'm watching videos. What do you recommend? I was thinking of getting the g900 for the mouse.
     
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    Don't use on bed.
     
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    Actually this is false. You can keep ROG control center installed to properly overclock the laptop.

    Set to extreme and leave it there, don't touch the overclock settings on the app. Then you can undervolt with throttlestop and the temps will be much lower.
     
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    Well, i guess its possible. Anyway I was getting some problems with the values on restart, and everything was ok without control center. You can OC with throttlestop, so control center is just a bloatwere. The only thing thats wont work without it is the rear led. So... why use it?

    Point is, asus uses 1,4V on the cpu, and its toooo high. Without undervolting this laptop will throtle and overheat. And there is no need for that to happen, since the cooling is quite ok and really silent.
     
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    First, most important, get something solid for the laptop to rest on, don't let it sink into the covers or mattress - that will cover up the intake vents and exhaust vents, super heating your laptop :confused: :eek: :D

    I use a pine board cut to size, or in a pinch a large photo / art coffee table book. Also, keep covers away from the hot exhaust of the laptop. Make sure there is plenty of room for the exhaust to exit and disperse into open air.

    I have a wireless keyboard / trackpad, it free's me up from wires and particular positions - I can freely hold the small keyboard and move around the room as needed.

    WIRELESS TOUCH KEYBOARD K400
    HTPC keyboard for PC connected TVs
    https://secure.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r
    https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wir...005DKZTMG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

    Logitech has made other nice wireless keyboard / touchpad units, but they all have some fatal flaw that makes me return them soon after trying them - they are too big or too heavy - one was like an iron bar it was so heavy o_O

    Here is the "Ironbar" model:
    https://secure.logitech.com/en-us/product/living-room-keyboard-k830?crid=27
    https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Ill...00ZOPVSKW/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

    Here is a newer K400, the K400 Plus - I haven't tried this one
    https://secure.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400-plus?crid=27
    https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wir...014EUQOGK/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

    If you have a mouse, you need a mouse pad or something to act as a mouse pad. Mice with open bottom rolling ball or optical port pick up dust and lint and food crumbs and ingest them, gets ucky quickly.

    That's why I go for the touch pad instead, much cleaner operation, no movement of the point device, just my fingers across the touchpad.
     
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    Throttlestop isn't able to control the CPU power limit on the G752VS.
     
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    Hi. Cheers for the reply! My laptop doesn't get very hot when I'm not gaming. It hovers around 38° and 42° for their CPU and gpu respectively. When I game, it shoots up to 60-70°. Hasn't exceeded 70 yet. Room temperature is about 27-28°. I don't game on my bed, so not worried about high temps. I just need it to be elevated enough so the vents at the bottom get enough air, hence the need for a laptop cooler. However, if you think that a book or piece of pine wood would do the trick, then I'll just use that option.

    In regards to the wireless keyboard with trackpad, I like playing fps. While the trackpad is fine, I prefer a mouse. I want wireless simply because I'm lazy. When I hook it to the TV to watch videos, I don't want to get up. Don't need a keyboard at the moment. This brings us to the logitech g900 chaos. From what I've read so far, it seems to be the best option, but I would like to hear some real world usage from people who have it. I don't mind paying for something that's worth it.

    Thanks again.

    Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    This is one of the reasons I bought a laptop, and not a desktop.

    Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
     
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    The laptop coolers are usually too flimsy to be stable on a bed, at least for me.

    The "leap factor" needs to be considered, leaping onto the bed can create an equal "leap off the bed" for the laptop - and other items on the bed.

    A low profile solution like a simple pine board or thick wide book seems to be the best stable platform.

    TV trays are also very unstable, even with the legs down they catch on covers and get pulled around and even off the bed.

    Even an idle laptop will quickly overheat given the right combination of blocking intake / exhaust vents. :cool:
     
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