*** ASUS ROG G703GX-XS71 Owner's Lounge ***

Well Fire Strike loop done and Pc is still alive

 

I used the Asus Rog benchmark 'realbench' and done a stress test for 15 mins when I got mine, with hwmonitor open you can see it did max GPU on everything

 

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What CPU you have and what is the temperatures during the test please ?
Thanks

 

I've got the 8750h (repasted with mx-4, not LM) and it hits 83c, I if I run it for 1 hour on that test, it hits 87c, which I thought was quite good for it

Edit:
GPU hit about 65c after 15 mins, think it was 70ish after a hour but wasn't monitoring that so can't say for sure, GPU is rtx2080

 

My 8750H with LM and limited to 3.2Ghz very rarely sees above 70C. This is in games, I don't really run benchmarks anymore.

 

Thanks for info,

I am little bit hotter , most of CPU doing stress test is around 89 C but two - three goin to 91-92 C , thinking to undervoltage them and lock them at 4.5 or 4.6 GHz.
I have another question , randomly during playing a game or just using the PC the Aura Lighting stop working, if I go to setting and try reset it or change the “style” nothing happen, if I reset PC everything is again ok and working well , any ID how to fix it please ?
Thanks

 

I've had this happen only once when armoury crate did some updating on its own in the background. I think the software controlling the lights is still quite buggy. If a restart fixes it, probably it's nothing too bad.

 

Is that the i9? We got i7! So I'd expect the i9 to be hotter!

As for the aura lights, literally every time I update windows I get bloody problems! It's now got the Armoury crate and a aura program (new installed yesterday automatically by crate) for changing key colours but I don't use either!

In the windows store there is an Rog aura app which is compatible with g703gl and other models but not g703gx/r but if you install it anyway, it works perfectly, that's what I use! After every windows update when crate don't work, just open that, set it up again, click save, no problems until next windows update!

 

Hello all,

Yes that I9 ,
Not the bad , but the 92 C is not a sweet spot at all, if I can I would like keep it under 80 what I know is impossible so at least I will try keep it under 90
Can I uses throtlestop if I still plane use the Armory please ?
Thanks

 

You won't keep it under 80c without reducing clocks and voltage. If it's not throttling, I wouldn't worry too much about it. People are paranoid about temps, but there's no scientific basis for that fear. When people say 90c is too hot for example, they actually have no information that supports that statement. They are rated to high run that hot, and in reality, 92c is a measure of the hottest part of the core, not the entire core. As we saw with Vega, hotspots on GPUs can hit 110c. It's fine. The only people on the planet who actually know how hot is too hot are the engineers, and according to them, it's not too hot.

edit: Armory uses XTU so I would stick to XTU, not TS.

 

Thanks, I will use then XTU and I know 92 in some core bot to much hot, but is still hot and I would like go under 90 or best 85 and if I need pay a undervoltage / reducing clock I will

 

Under 90 is pretty doable if you're ok with occasional spikes above. It's difficult to control the instantaneous but very brief spikes. But keeping temps below 90c for the other 99% of the time is very very doable and you shouldn't have to sacrifice much.

 

To be honest I wouldn't care if it's running all the time at 100C if it can take it. My problem is fan noise. I still haven't found a way to control when and how hard the fans kick in. The manual profile from armoury crate doesn't seem to do anything for me.

I ended up "fixing" it by undervolting, underclocking, lifting the laptop a bit for better airflow, LM on both dies, just to keep everything below 70C where the stock profiles turn the fans too loud for me.

 

The fan control is a bit odd in how it works. I find that it ignores what you set as a minimum and choose its own (Asus need to polish Armory Crate a bit tbh), but will obey the maximum speed and never go past it. I find 40% maximum to be a pretty good compromise between noise (gentle woosh) and performance.

If you find a % that sounds good to your ears, you can honestly just rely on the fact that CPUs/GPUs will never allow themselves to overheat to take care of the rest. Nvidia GPUs especially are excellent at sticking to their target temp (86c), but you'll have to tweak the CPU to ensure it doesn't spend too much time throttling (clock speeds won't change but I am pretty sure it duty cycles).

Anyway it's another option if you ever want more than 3.2GHz.

 

Cool, I'll try to mess with the fan speeds some more.

 

Has anyone found thermal pad size for vrams and other sensitive areas? I think the size for vrams is 1mm thickness. I am not sure about other areas. I want to get rid of all thermal grease even for CPU and GPU dies. I want to use Thermal Gryzzly Carbonaut on the dies all I need are pad size thickness.

 

It's not the same size everywhere. I tried with pads and wasn't successful. I stopped experimenting and went with K5 Pro paste. It's very thick and holds well. Didn't create a mess and it's still fine.

 

Usualy they put 1mm thick thermal pads on vrams and 0.5mm thickness on other areas.
Problem is I don't know if all areas make good contact and if on the CPU and GPU die will be enough presure for the carbonaut to fill all the air gaps. Carbonaut is only 0.2mm in thickness and very electricaly conductive and if it shifts and touches metal it won't be a good day.
I wonder though if Asus went the grease route just for the better cooling or because the heatsink does not alow pads due to too many incompatibilities between the heatsink and dies themselves and vrams and all the other components.
One way to find out is to try some cheap pads and just mix and match untill something fits.
As for the air intake vents I wanted to use a 64mm hole saw to drill biger holes and glue a steel mesh on them but there are preasure edges on the bottom cover that push on the heatsink. Didn't want to risk cutting one of those edges off, so I need a better plan on how to get the vents bigger.

 

I had to repaste. I had mine with K5-Pro on vrams and phobya nanogrease extreme on cpu and gpu dies.
Whitin around 3 months of this setup of regular gaming I noticed my temps have gone up into the low 80's for the CPU with -125mV undervolt and around 75+ for the GPU with an undervolt curve at 850mV. That's about 10 hotter compared to how it was with fresh repaste.
So I repasted today and temps went this time even lower. But I used MX-4 on dies and K5 Pro on vrams.
When I took it apart K5-Pro was cracked in some places on vrams. Maybe that is one reason why the temps have gone up.
I will keep an update to these findings just to be sure k5 pro wasn't at fault and phobya nanogrease extreme actually degrades fast at high temps.
This is how k5 pro looks after 3 months.
It's not dry but just cracked and for some reason it printed painted letters from vrams on to it. Strange...

 

I haven't taken mine apart yet. It's been a few months since I put the K5 Pro on but for now temps are good and stable.
I never see anything much over 70C. Even Metro Exodus stays under that. So far only with Anthem I see 73-74C running temps. I do have Conductonaut on both CPU and GPU dies.

 

I do want to try conductonaut at one point if the temps go up with MX-4. I don't know if Phobya either degrades or just pumps out due to oscilating temps but it started loosing cooling properties after a while even though it's something like 16W/mk.
Mx-4 it's long lasting from what I've read so hopefully I won't have to do a repaste soon.

 

I got mx-4 (2019) on mine, don't know if 2019 makes a difference, but it stays really cool (not as good as lm but good for thermal paste)

Mine was done about 3 months ago, stays same cool temps to this day

Limited CPU 3.4ghz, never hits 80c on any game (including farcry, battlefield, call of duty, anno, metro ect...) but does creep over after 15 mins stress test, bit that's maxing it out for 15 mins straight!

 

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to repasting anytime soon. I keep trying to bring myself to enlarge the intake grills on the bottom but I keep getting side tracked

 

I used mx-4 before and it was very good. I am back on it for now until I do a liquid metal repaste. I never go above 80 now after fresh repaste I think in part due to -125mV undervolt. No underclock though just undervolt.

If you do a repaste I am really curious to see if gallium does interact with copper and starts to damage it in time. I know CPU and GPU dies are nickel and won't be affected but I am interested to see if copper is the same.
Maybe if you repaste at one point you can share your findings

 

I will at some point. Probably around the 6 months mark. I'll post pics for sure.

 

Hopefuly it is fine and doesn't corode copper.
What I am more concerned is a warped heatsink. I do move my laptop alot and MX-4 sometimes spikes from 65C to 75C and back which may be a sign that mx-4 is too thin for my heatsink and does not cover equal all cores.
Phobya was better, more stable at keeping a consistent temperature since it was much thicker.
For now it is okay so I will stay on this setup until temps go up again

 

I understand what you mean about the thickness, but personally when i moved mine (desk upstairs and downstairs) I've not noticed jumps in temp, I read your post and I'm on my laptop so I just tried it, running new dawn benchmark while doing it, maybe 1c or so but not anything significant, are you.sure you spread it propally, and didn't put on too much/not enough paste? It's hard to find a long lasting good paste, which will cope with those temps :/

 

Another thing I used to do was wiping the keyboard deck with too much preasure maybe and that made the paste pump out or something. That rubber surface really makes fingerprints stand out.
For now I avoided moving it too much and I got a wireless keyboard so I don't have to chean the keyboard.
The temps are stable.
As for the amount of thermal paste that I aplied I think it's okay. I only noticed a temperature spike when using MX-4. Not Phobya or MasterGel Maker. Both are thicker than MX-4 and have less spike in temp.
I will update if things change

 

Fan running continuously/at maximum ???

Hi, I use this laptop for chess analysis with the videocard. I turn off the chess engines at night, but when I wake up, i am finding that the computer fans are running at maximum and are very loud. ????

Turning the computer off and then back on fixes the problem.

??? Anyone has an idea?

 

HI, are there any high performance replacement fans that fit? I have only had mine a month and 1 of the fans (left side) vibrates a little.

Also mine runs very hot, fans are on all the time.I had the Pred 17x 1080 before (CPU failed, got refund and bought this Rog), this is a huge letdown cooling wise in comparison.

 

I haven't seen any aftermarket cooling mods for this yet.

Yes, heatsink design overall is very bad. Almost makes me wish I'd have waited and got something else...

 

I dont know what you expect, its 200 watts TDP on the CPU and GPU EACH in turbo mode. More than your predator by far. Run it in balanced mode or something.

This is probably the only 8 core laptop that can actually run the chip as designed with all 8 cores turbo'd with no throttling.

 

Yep. It moves more heat than all but the most high end desktops, in a small fraction of the case volume.

 

It's in balanced mode, Turbo is literally unbearable.

 

You can find fans and other replacement parts for G703GX here. I am still waiting for a bottom cover to show up so I can test some mods on it.
Good luck.
https://www.asus-accessories.com/laptop/g703/g703gx/g703gx-rog-86172-65718.htm

 

That's a good idea if you don't want to mess up your original case but I can't see the bottom cover (the large one with the vents) in the list on the site. Do you have a direct link or I'm not looking where I'm supposed to?

 

If you browse that site you will find all G703 models. I got the cover for G703GI since it's available. I cannot find the GX one. It is however the same chasis for all G703 models so G703GI bottom cover should work for G703GX just as well.
On a side note I found the thermal pad thickness for all heat sensitive areas. Will do an update soon with the temps.
It uses three sizes, 0.3mm, 0.5mm, and 1mm thickness for thermal pads.
Also for the GPU and CPU dies I used Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut pad 0.2mm thickness.
No more wet and nasty pastes

 

Do you guys get very slight coil whine (at least it sounds like coil whine)? Only when it's dead silent around and only if I turn my head at specific angles. Doesn't seem to be constant. It's not from the speakers.

 

Since I had it new I get something, kinda sounds like it's coming from the left speaker/sub at front bottom? But only when it's silent, when fans kick in I can hardly hear it! Mainly when stressing it like farcry new dawn it did when loading game (large environment around spawn area), but once loaded it goes, it's been fine since may, so just guessing it's normal

 

Just like to make clear, it's defo not from the speaker but that corner of the laptop! And is also slight and when head in certain places as stated

 

Now that I noticed this, I find that I can't "not hear it" anymore.

I wish there would be something to do about his. Wonder if it's tied to certain graphics settings, although most I hear it is in windows, not while gaming.

 

After more testing and usage time with the thermal pads I got stable temps without clock throttling and no power limit wall which would indicate improper preasure or contact mount on VRM's mosfets and chokes. Also the memory doesn't throttle either and the GPU itself stays bellow 74C under load running at 1960MHz and 912mV.
The CPU it depends on load but it spikes up to 80C under load in AIDA64.
While gaming it doesn't reach 80C but it balances out at about 72-76.
This is at 65% fan speed manual profile in Armoury Crate with -125mV undervolt on core and cache.
It's not a big improovment to thermal paste I think but it's easier to service and cleaner.
I user 3 size for thermal pads 0.3mm, 0.5mm and 1mm. All fujipoly extreme which I think they are 17 W/mk.
In adition to thermal pads I used theemal grizzly carbonaut for both CPU and GPU dies.
I did a color coded drawing to better help visualize where each size goes.
Blue is 0.5mm thickness
White is 1.0mm thickness
Yellow is 0.3mm thickness
Carbonaut for GPU and CPU is 0.2mm thickness.
Like I said it may not be a big thermal performance gain but it is better in the long run I think. Compared to thermal grease there is a less chance to dry out or pump out and it makes it easier to service if needed.

 

Awesome, thank you for taking the time to post this.

 

Would this work for gx501?? With 1080 maxq 8750h?

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Hi! So is this the 8750h? I can't remember and can't find it in thread now :/

Have you limited CPU clock speed? I'm on mx-4 and getting similar temps, without a undervolt and with an limited clock speed of 3.4ghz!

Also what was the temps when you had mx-4 approx? Might have to convert to thermal pad carbonate thingy

 

Every laptop is unique so I cannot say or recomend anything but you can try testing various sizes.

Yes it is i7 8750H. I didn't lower clock speed but I did a -125mV undervolt.
It is better. With time and with pads countinuing to compress the temps get better with time.
I am at 2 to 3 degrees below MX-4.
MX-4 pumps out in 2 weeks on my unit.
I highly recomend carbonaut due to longevity and ease of use plus it really lower temps.

 

Okay thank you for your fast reply! I might give it a go, is it conductive or anything? Or can I just cut it roughly to size, put it on, obviously pads or paste on the rest and see how it goes?

I can't undervolt, I've never done it and every time I try to follow a guide it doesn't work with my machine, and I turn it off my to sleep as it sits in the bag 90% of the time :/

 

Carbonaut is electricaly conductive but it should be fine as long as it is covering just the dies . You can cut it down to size but I got 2 25×25mm which come precut for RTX 2080 so I just had to cut one for CPU. It is however very thin and flimsy it tears easy so it must be handled with care.
After MX-4 pumped out I'd see my CPU going into the high 80's during gaming.
GPU also was going into the lower 80's which is not good for the long term.

 

My coil whine thing is starting to be annoying. I'm not sure if it got worse or I just notice it more but I can hear it from a few meters away now in a quiet room, even when it just sits idle in windows.

Is there anything that can be done to lower this?

*I do not want to get involved with Asus customer support (no way I'm shipping the laptop away just for them to tell me it's normal or that it's not covered since I put liquid metal on the CPU/GPU)

 

I don't know if there's anything you can do to fix it, but I actually stopped hearing mine until you.mentioned it other day, now it's getting on my nerves again, it's because your listening for it but I did find that after I put fresh paste on vrms it got better, but again that could have been all in my head :/