*** ASUS ROG G703GX-XS71 Owner's Lounge ***

Nah, as of now I am happy as it is, even if it is loud. I simply use Throttle stop and Nvidia Inspector to do all these. heard that GPU can also be undervolted using MSI afterburner.
if you have the i9 version, i think it will be even faster in benchmarks and game . one trick about throttle stop, once you apply it and put computer to sleep, it will be applied as you set in Throttle Stop when you wake it up..
after you see the undervolt is applied, restart the laptop and the undervolt will be even more optimized and you will see slightly higher results. tried this in mine

 

Did you receive 304 through Windows Update? Or did you download it from the Asus website? 303 is the latest one I received through Windows Update, strangely though this isn't even on the website. Is 303 the same as 304? I'll have to check the 303 bios date when I get home.

To be honest I think it's best to disable most of the Asus software/services. Note that you don't have to remove them, you can just set them to not automatically start in "Services" (change them from Automatic to Manual). This way if you ever need them (e.g. to adjust the fan profile), just reverse your changes. I logged what changes I made in a text file, that way if I ever need to use them, I can just go through and undo what I did. Generally I think the machine runs better without all that stuff running, as you've found.

 

I like the idea of not having armoury crate but I can't ditch it for two reasons: I like the balanced profile, fans not too loud and kick in when needed and the keyboard light customization. Is there any other way to customize key colors without armoury crate?

 

Your last fan settings are retained as far as I can tell. Note that I didn't remove Armoury Crate, I just disabled the service from starting automatically (so I can always go in and change to another fan profile if needed). I also like the Balanced profile (GPU fan turns off at idle if the 2080 is < 47c so it's extra quiet), and that still works even if Armoury Crate is not running.

I am not sure about the keyboard colors. I use mine with lid closed & external monitors, so I haven't had to worry about that.

Also in case anyone is ever interested, I tested the Optimus implementation a while back and found the following:
- the iGPU is connected to the internal display ONLY
- the RTX 2080 is connected to the internal display AND to the TB3/mDP/HDMI ports

 

No I originally updated to 303 bios via windows update, and then to 404 with windows update! So I guess there different and I did nothing manually, but I am in the windows insider preview so that might be why I got it early?

And also for the keyboard lights you can just download Rog aura from Windows store, there are three but if you go on each one there is one that supports some g703 models but not the g703gx, I have tried it and it worked perfectly on my gx!

 

That makes sense - 303 is dated 5 days earlier I think. 304 hasn't been pushed to me but yeah I'm not an insider.

 

Hello all.

I am probably a newbie, this is not first time I read that after applying trotlestop changes I need put the computer sleep , but in mine experience working fine ASAP with out put the computer to sleep mode , did I something wrong ?
Now I have experience only with two different cpu ( before I was use XTU )
So the processor what I use now is I5 8300H ( working fine with out needed to put it sleep ) and I9 9980HK ( know in K version should work with out sleep mod on , but the i5 is non K ) so mine question is how is this possible ? Mine Trottlestop Verizon is atm 8.70 and 8.68 .


Regards
Scorpik

 

EDIT: Btw I will post mine 3Dmark’s result soon

 

Anyone knows why after each boot or restart the power settings in control panel goes to performance?
I have to set it to balanced every time I power up the laptop. Armory crate is doing this even if I set it to balanced to Armory crate also.

 

I think it uses that profile even for Balanced.

 

Hey all,

I had totally same problem ( not on this machine but on GL503GE model ), start happen to me randomly and on some point I just can’t change the setting at all and the GPU fan was permanent at maximum speed , I try everything , reinstall the software, download the newest one, installed the older version , everything, reinstalled the windows from recovery drive but same issue , what helped me out was clean Windows install from external usb drive ( but then the pain put all the drivers in Omg ) so don’t know if you wanna go that way but this is what helped me .

 

I want to chance the boot drive and use the curent one just as an expansion. I was thinking a Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250GB.
I don't know it it will be faster than the current one the unit came with though. I hope it is.

@Skorpik
Might as well do all that. It is a pain to do it but since I will switch the drive it's a good oportunity to start fresh with all drivers and software.

@sniffin
It does use the same setting even for balanced profile.
It's no use to have all cores running at 4.0Ghz the whole time. Armory crate needs better updates

 

Yeah, you can get ThrottleStop to overwrite it but every now and then it messes with power profiles. I just disabled it in the end as it’s too erratic. It uses XTU and that has always been inferior to TS.

 

I re-enabled Armoury Crate and XTU today as I wanted to give the Silent fan profile a go and I'm actually pretty impressed with how this one is tuned. I avoided it before as I knew it lowered the power limits of the CPU and GPU. I played about an hour each of Division 2 and Fallout 76 and this is what I got on average:

Division 2
CPU: 3.6-4.3GHz (bounces around a lot)
Cores Active: 6 (makes sense as benchmarks have shown it scales to 6C/12T)
Temps: 75-85c (brief spikes into 90s)

GPU: 1620-1750MHz
Temps: 78c steady

Fallout 76
CPU: 4.3GHz (pretty much locked)
Cores Active: 1
Temps: 75-85c (brief spikes into 90s)

GPU: 1930MHz
Temps: 78c steady

The fans stayed at a pretty good noise level the entire time. It seems the G703GX does not allow the RTX 2080 to go above 78c. Div 2 starts at 1900MHz+ and slowly lowers to 1620ish once the temperature nears 78c. It will pretty much stay at that temperature until I close the game. The CPU temps are reasonable as well, but Coffee Lake is hot. I like how it still allows the CPU to turbo quite high in single-threaded games like Fallout. It lowers a bit in Division 2 but I am usually GPU bound at 120fps+ anyway.

I think for now I'm going to stick with Armoury Crate and XTU for CPU/GPU control. The silent profile is great for me and it's actually kind of nice to have all the Aura stuff back in one easy to use app.

Does anyone with the new 9980HK have temps to report? I am curious.

Edit: forgot to add, you need to change the power saver profile in Windows (which the silent profile uses) to 100% maximum processor performance. It defaults to 70%. You only need to change this once though.

 

Apologies for the triple posting

So after running the Silent profile for a few days, I've concluded the CPU power limit is too low (it seems to be 45W in Silent mode), and the GPU temperature limit is too low (the GPU slowly drops it's clocks to maintain 78c, and I think the power limit is lowered to 150ish). The Balanced profile also seems to use these limits, so I moved past that quickly. The Turbo profile is balls-to-the-wall, but the fan speed is extremely aggressive and FAR too loud.

So I turned to the Manual setting, which allows clock tweaking and fan profile tweaking, AND raises the CPU power limits to 90W/160W (PL1, PL2), the maximum GPU temperature to 86c, and GPU power limit to 200W. So it's similar to Turbo, except you actually have some control, and it doesn't blast the CPU at 4.8GHz with 1.4v+. My goal was to:

1. Find an acceptable maximum fan RPM (acoustics are important to me)
2. Find clocks that do not throttle within this fan profile

The sweet spot for noise was 2500rpm on both fans (35% fan speed in Armoury Crate). I may have to increase this in the summer, but for winter this is working perfectly. So my fan profile was 20-35% fan speed.

I raised the GPU clock +150MHz, and memory +300MHz. With the 200W power limit, clocks would sit at 1800-2100MHz at 86c depending on the game.

The CPU is harder to get right, as it sort of depends on the game. I continued to test Fallout 76 and Division 2, trying to find a balance between clock speed and minimising spikes to 95-98c. Interestingly, the clocks don't seem to be lowered during thermal limiting (I assume the cores are duty cycling through, so you probably won't be getting maximum performance). For Fallout 76, I can set the clock speed to 4.4GHz with a 100mV undervolt. There were brief spikes to 94c, but mostly it hovers in the 80s. I did not thermally throttle once. For Division 2, 3.9GHz with a 100mV undervolt lets me avoid thermal throttling. It spends a lot of time in the 90s, so it's cutting it close.

As with pretty much any laptop, your fan noise tolerance and what your ambients are will pretty much dictate what you can achieve. If you have headphones and increase the fan speed past 3000rpm I'm sure you could go much higher.

 

Well is look like not just Alienware Area 51M have graphic card issue , is look like mine Asus Rog GXR is burn out too just now ( before area 51m but on me too ) bad luck ???
Well boot windows after 6 days and boom graphic dead
Spec :
I9 9980HK
nVidia RTX 2080
32 GB RAM
3x 512GB Raid 0

 

Have you tried reinstalling driver and such? Never personally experienced a burn out of GPU! But I did watch a video about the desktop rtx 2070 (unknown if other models affected) where the memory was over heating and by reducing the speed it was working?

Also I am aware that a bad power supply can cause this, obviously you would have the official Asus one but I don't know if undervolting would have affected it, maybe resetting setting might help? Please let us know how you get on! Thank you

 

Hello all ,

Well the think happen this way :
I loud up “machine” download steam and thinking what I will instal, but instead of that I decide to go to google and first download the HWiNFO for the temperature , before I type anything to the google window the whole screen lose color, show crazy symbols, start shake it and reset ASAP, when this happen , is come to a loop load up reset, load up reset and after few rounds I manage to leave the system reinstall from hidden boot drive, but during the installation happen few times again so I instal windows during the whole night but I did it, I make it, but same think in moment when the windows boot up and start use graphic everything happen again, well I personally think VRam on GPU ( one of more is gone , but hope I’m wrong )
Look the pictures lads

 

could be wrong so don't quote me, but I had this happened on an old Alienware with a 650m, tried resetting to default windows which didn't work and it was purely in that software so where, manually reinstalling windows fixed it fresh from disc/usb!


Also could be wrong but I believe the processer (intel) GPU is linked to the display, the Nvidia one stays idle until intense load, mine is in power saving until I open a game! So the GPU technically isn't connected to the screen but transferred the load when required? Maybe worth looking into as GPU might have no load? Armoury crate where I found that! i don't know if the i9 has integrated graphics but that's the way my i7 8750h works!

Have you undervolted or repasted ect?
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Update:

Maybe try an external monitor/hdmi TV, if I'm right that will use Nvidia GPU graphics all the time and you might be able to open hwmonitor through that? That's how I learnt it was software in my old m14x R2 with software causing this! It still didn't preform correctly but the problem was different and workable, if that helps

 

Hello, thanks for you advice
Anything what can’t help , I will be happy for it
First yes there is two gpus, if we can call it like that , the desktop nVidia and the intel UHD 630 , when the laptop boot
First time I go do armory and change the UHD to boot directly from NVidia what force me to the restart and pick up the graphic card and I save it like that . There was no repaste job underwoltage dobe, because the machine is basically one month old and was use only for totally 10 minutes at all , don’t have time to play with it, so I was waiting for proper off what was yesterday ( have another P.C. and laptop ) , there is as way no point to repaste it because is a model with LM from factory , well what I will try is setup the UHD boot first true BiOs and will see what will happen .
Question, you said this happen at your Alienware , did you hade same issues : / same screen like me ?
Well the think is all start after nVidia update her self but before reinstalling I did uninstall the whole nVidia drivers but nothing change

 

LM is perfect you shouldn't have any heat issues, mine didn't have LM and was very very hot, just repasted (not LM) which brought it down comfertably!

If you haven't undervolted or messed with anything, I would think with such little use there shouldn't be any problems with hardware!

Mine was very similar to yours on the one display, but on the external monitor it flashed lines and was crazy, but was usable enough to actually do something with it to fix it!

Try external monitor and let me know how you get on

 

Also I never made it boot from Nvidia, infact I didn't know you could do that! Mine just uses intel and I set the programs to automatically boot using Nvidia graphics processer (simply right click on program icon and select), and that's had no issues on mine so maybe try that and try booting a game and see if that works?

 

Well the problem is mine don’t boot,
I stop somewhere where the windows start load and whole loop happen again

 

But it will boot into the bios and screen is fine in there?

 

Well is definitely GPU, if I boot on battery or one PSU I can use the CPU, overclock the CPU or whatever I wanna and I still have GPU on or off, If is on frequency is very low, in the moment i connect PSU to GPU mine whole system collapse

 

Update
As well when the primary GPU is the Intel GPU I can have connect bot PSU ( no harm ) , that because the GPU don’t suck any power if is disabled , to this look more like MOFOS power issues then a VRAM issues, anyway is nothing what I can fix , need go to RMA
I am really disappointment lads , I bough this for lots of money and “****” like this happen

 

You can change it to non-Optimus mode in Armory Crate.

 

Question please

Did anyone of you lads ever use Asus Repair Service at Europe ? This one is going to Uk , anyone have any experience with it please ?
Is there any better warranty service somewhere else ? I am really worried that this “expensive pig” will be useless after come back from the Service center, because the LM job is normally done by Machine at Factory and I am not sure if I get the LM job back
I am maybe just “paranoid” but this is expensive machine and I am really sad about it .
I other hand , I have Asus for decade and newer broke down, I had like 10 of them all , PCs , Laptops and it never had any issue , just small thinks like paste job after year or two but that’s all .
Thanks for any advice, everything is better then nothing.

Regards
S.

 

I'm sure Asus will do a good job! I had an Asus tf300t UK model (android tablet with keyboard dock) back in the day, anyway one day I woke up and the screen came on and off randomly, I took it back and it was fixed within 2 days (via Currys or possibly just before comet closed?) So I guess they sent to Asus but I don't know for sure!

Also I have seen the Optimus mode in armoury crate and clicked it a couple times, I have no idea which setting it's on now I didn't see any performance differance, in Nvidia control panel I set to prefer max performance or something, that made steadier fps

 

If it says "discrete" on the GPU switch, you're in G-sync mode, otherwise it will say Optimus

Optimus incurs a performance hit, so if you're always plugged in I'd definitely recommend G-sync mode.

 

Hi, i`m pretty sure it has been discussed before, but i dont seem to find it unfortunately: what is the best way to undervolt G703GXR and keep control over backlight and other features ArmouryCrate provides?
It`s clear i have to use TS for that, but AC will mess up the settings and they will fight with each other.
So what would be the best way to go around this issue?

PS: i`m not especially interested in overclocking cpu/gpu, only in getting some stress off the cpu and let it maintain more stable clocks.

Thanks

 

Yeah unfortunately you sacrifice a lot by going TS instead of Armory Crate. Which is why I actually went back to AC in the end. Because it uses the XTU service for profiles, you can use XTU with Armory Crate and they will play nice together. So I just set whatever profile I want in Armory Crate (turbo or manual for me), and then open XTU and apply an undervolt. If you want to undervolt the GPU you’ll have to apply an Afterburner profile.

What CPU do you have? 9980HK?

 

Yes, i have 9980hk.
Interesting if you can just tune the xtu profiles ac applies?

And i think there should be some option to unlock bios on our mainboard, would expect great tweaking potential without need for any software.

 

Yeah you can just tweak them after you select whichever you want.

I agree a BIOS option would be nice. A desktop BIOS would be amazing but OEMs don’t seem to like the idea.

 

What app do you use to monitor temps, clocks, throttling? I use hwinfo but cant find way to enable graphs, thought there some.

Or it was a separate log analyzer/plugin like
GenericLogViewer - Version 5.1 from hwinfo site...

From your posts i got that you use ac in manual mode + xtu + msi ab. Correct?

 

Correct. Manual allows the same large power limits as Turbo, except you have some control over fan noise and clocks.

 

Is anyone else inconvenienced by the length of the charging cables? (the cables from the power bricks to the laptop).

They seem to be too short for any proper cable management and I really don't want to keep the two bricks on the table or dangling next to it.
Wonder if there are commercially available extensions for something like this.

 

I've looked and can't find them, but on a French Asus parts website they want over £100 for one original charger!

On another note has anyone got any idea who provides the monitor for this laptop? I'm only asking as I have a Lenovo monitor update being installed? I've never plugged in an external monitor or TV! So I'm just assuming it's right?

 

From Indonesia bro ?

 

Can someone help me out with a dilemma I have? So I have decided to buy a g703x but I have one huge question.
I opted to post this here because I felt like maybe you guys owning the laptop can help guide me in the right direction.
I am mostly buying this laptop for gaming purposes when I cannot use my desktop.

I can get the i7-8750h version with a RTX2080 for around 2400$ on newegg for sale almost 600$ off compared to the i7-9750h version. After seeing benchmarks comparing the two I see that there is not much difference except the 9750h has a higher single core turbo clock of 4.5ghz vs 4.1ghz. Normally I would immediately get the one on sale especially after looking at the benchmarks but here is my problem. I play a lot of Arma 3 and this game is a very CPU intensive title that runs mostly on one core. The key word here being mostly. It lets other cores take some of the load but very very little. Going from 4.1 to 4.5ghz would be noticeable in game on the single core it mostly uses. Here is what I am worried about, will the i7-9750h version really get me to 4.5ghz on a single core if Arma 3 is using primarily 1 core but also other cores to a lesser level? Or will the single core turbo only work in an application that uses absolutely only 1 core and not like 95% one core and 5% on other cores.

Also will the i7-9750h even reach 4.5ghz without throttling? I plan on repasting regardless.
How are the stock temps on the 9750h? I'm not sure 4.5ghz is guaranteed. If it truly ends up being only a 100 or 200mhz difference that honestly isn't worth it.

 

I don't think it matters how much hotter the 9 is. It barely keeps the 8750 cool. I run my 8750 with max clocks at 3.2Ghz, a bit of undervolt, liquid metal paste and under heavy load I still get about 75 - 77C temps. This is right at the threshold where the fans switch to a higher speed. Fan noise is very important to me.

My next mods will be to raise a bit the back side to allow more air and cut out the intake grills which are very small.

IMO the whole cooling system on this machine is very poorly designed. But it's fast, and I already bought it

 

The 9750H has extra L3 and slightly higher clocks. Not bad but not worth the extra $600.

There isn’t a notebook in existence that maintain the sort of temps you’re after on Intel CPUs. It’s not really got anything to do with the cooling (which is actually quite good - it cools a 200W GPU).

Why not set a manual fan profile so you get better acoustics plus allow the CPU to stretch its legs? 35-40% in Armory Crate as max for both fans is quite good I’ve found.

 

I don't think the preformancr difference warrants the $600 price differance, if you look at actual game bench marks (which can slightly vary If you run the test 5 times in a row) then you will see there is very little between the two, if any in some cases!

Minecraft is quite CPU dependant, and in my experience tends to favour 1 certain core and that works very well on the 8750h!

Is there a demo or benchmark tool for arma3 I can run and share the results to you? Couldnt find one with a quick Google search

Before you take a big knife to the machine, have you considered trying a cooling pad? I haven't tried one personally, but a friend who lives down the road has one of these machines but with 8750h and a gtx1080. He uses a thermal take metal looking one and has no repasted or undervolted, and he gets simar temps to me (75-83 under load)

 

Hi guys how easy is it to install second or third nvme ssd to set up a raid 0 configuration

 

Hi all where will I get info to install two nvme drives into the G703GXR-EV065T

 

Putting the new drives in will be easy, just one screw off bottom, and there's two spare slots with heatsink! I don't know if that works in raid 0!



On another note, been on Minecraft most of the day, not a problem, restarted laptop for Windows updates or whatever and my keyboard lights were off!

I checked, armoury crate is all up to date, aura sync says unknow, and it's not in any of the sync settings, but if I select a colour it does indead change to that colour (rainbow I use), but then when I restart, they're off again?

 

Hi guys, can you help me with a quick question?
The global Asus website says the i9-9980hk models of the G703GXR comes with liquid metal on the processor. But in the US there is no GXR, the only model with i9-9980hk is the G703gx-xb96k. Does this model have liquid metal compound on the processor as well?

 

I have decided to get the i7-9750h version. I am curious how it's temperatures are compared to the i7-8750h version.
I can always return it and get the 8750h if I am not impressed. I have not found much information online about the 9750h version so perhaps it is good I purchased it so I can bring the results to everyone here. There is no demo to Arma 3 that I am aware of. It is a very very unoptimized game and depending on the scenario you are playing with a slower clocked CPU you could get bad minimum frame rates. When your minimum frame rate is low it really really annoys me in game dropping from 45fps to 20fps.
I still rate Arma 3 10/10 for what it does do right but the code is not optimized as well as it should be.
Yea minecraft is also hard on the CPU.

If I can get around 4.2ghz-4.3ghz out of the 9750h with decent temps I will keep this laptop. I will repaste for sure. Not sure I want to do liquid metal though.

 

Hello All,

I am back
So after 4 weeks waiting I received mine machine back ( I have the I9 9980Hk model )
I was waiting for new part what was the GPU, but because the GPU is “solid” at motherboard I need wait for brand new “Mobo” with new CPU and new GPU so was 4 weeks at pain
Is look like the model have some “bad” VRam at GPU, so be careful if you have the “bad ones” like mine one
Didn’t test the new one bud will soon
To answer you question, all G703 what have inside the top one intel’s chip ( I9 9980HK ) have Liquid Metal on
And I’m for 100 percent sure
Hope this help

 

Hello lads again,

Simple question, what benchmark software are you using to benchmark this beast ?
I use Fire Strike and mine machine burn out, so this is why I ask, I guess was just a bad luck but anyway
Thanks for answer