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    *OFFICIAL* M15x Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware M15x' started by BatBoy, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Scores are looking GOOD!! :)
     
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    I don't get how the 920XM yields such high CPU scores :confused:

    There is no correlation with the real world apps is there?

    You beat my i7 920 3.6Ghz score, which was also using a low uncore speed.

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=11832818

    I later hit 21K+, after tweaking GPU clocks/CPU + 3.9Ghz.
     
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    it was on powerrade
     
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    I downloaded the latest drivers for the 240 and ran another 3DMark Vantage. the CPU score was even lower than before with 2030. The CPU score, however, jumped up: 18271

    ORB - World of Performance

    Could someone please explain how bad the GPU score actually is and whether the CPU score is normal, low or high?

    Thanks a lot all of you!

    Greetz,

    Harry
     
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    your drivers are gaming performance oriented as is most likely in the case imo
     
  7. HarryTheFish

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    I agree, but as some people were curious about the performance of the 240 card I thought it would be best to run the test with the latest drivers as most people seem to use them.
    Could to tell me more about the numbers, please?
    (I am obviously not a gamer!)
     
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    well benchmarks are pure performance and not depicted to show actual gaming use which yields higher benchmark numbers. also what drivers did you install would help refer you to a better benchmarking driver
     
  9. Mandrake

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    Bet you never seen this

    Later I was able to hit 22K CPU score.
     
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    Thanks for your answer. I installed 197.16 drivers from the NVidia site. Took me 24 hours to download them, though, so I will leave these for a while!
    How is the CPU score for a 720?
     
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    i have the 620 and its about the same as the 720 so they are both solid cpu's. also do you have physx enabled it helps the cpu out which could be why your gpu scored lower
     
  12. HarryTheFish

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    No, PhysX is off. I read that it would alter the scores if you leave it on.
    I'll run another benchmark tomorrow to see if the result holds up.
    I honestly don't notice any difference between having PhysX on or off during normal use and work.
     
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    its only going to affect benching because it helps the cpu process 3d data better which is why you leave it on to game and such but that doesn't apply to you as it does for me.
     
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    Well then... it appears these mobile processors are indeed their desktop equals. The only issue is power consumption/heat (cooling).
     
  15. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Does your Asus do this consistently (OC'ed to the stock speeds of the Desktop proc...) or was it a rare occurrence? I know when I had the OC bios in mine it would go well over 4Ghz when benching and such.
     
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    No it was consistent. I was able to get the score to climb with further OC'ing. I was able to boot at 3.8Ghz on all four cores and bench at 3.7Ghz on all four cores.
     
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    Why ditch the ASUS then?

    It's not going to be possible for an Alienware to beat your score either, lol. :mad:
     
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    I still have it. I sold my Thinkpad instead.

    Babyhemi said he hit 16.7K and since I opened this to all single GPU systems there should be someone who can pass it.
     
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    Interesting, I'll give it a shot today if I get my new laptop. tweak mem settings, clock speed, driver version, windows version etc... I doubt I'll break 16k with a 4870 mobility though.

    What are your temps with the ASUS @ 3.7Ghz when gaming?
     
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    I had to use a portable AC unit to keep it cool for benchmarking. Not going to be gaming at those speeds. ;)
     
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    I don't see Alienware making changes for us then. I would be so grateful for all cores running at 3Ghz.

    I also tried it with my GTX280m and managed 13.7K lol, that's with 293x10. ram @ 8-8-8-22. gpu @ 660/1020/1650. vista sp2. nvidia 197.31 beta.

    If I had an i7/xp/186.62 that would of been 16k :p
     
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    That is possible but only if Alienware raised the thermal limits of the processor. I could run it up to 3.2Ghz on all four cores without worrying about heat but I always gamed @ stock settings.
     
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    Ok so, I obviously missed some very important posts/threads. The limit is around 82c? After 82c, the i7 goes from desktop mode to mobile mode?
     
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    It's a TDP limit. I believe with the AW system it's somewhere in between 90W-95W (which is still good since the proc is rated at 55W) and with the G73 I hit 110W. I will add those numbers should be taken with a grain of salt because this depends on how accurate HWinfo is.
     
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    If your 110W in the ASUS is true then it's the motherboard/BIOS?

    If not then it's in the processor and we're screwed unless?

    I hope to god HWinfo is accurate, I have a hunch that it's not though.

    The mobile i7's are incredible. I can't wait to play around with some AC of my own.

    If Sager's use desktop processors I don't see the problem though. :confused: . Summer is going to be fun this year :). If I get mine before Joker I'll look for PLL codes.
     
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    *calls alienware tech support*
     
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    BTW, since the G73 doesn't technically support the 920XM some believe the bios options were left in there by mistake.
     
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    One last question, you can overclock higher with hyperthreading disabled, right?

    With the i7 920 Desktop, they would overclock higher when using turbo multipliers. Enabling HT would theoretically cut off 200Mhz on the max overclock for whatever voltage. My 3.9Ghz i7 D0 using 1.2v should of done 4.1Ghz no problem. I miss it :(.

    In some games disabling HT gave a good boost, in others it didn't (the older games).
     
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    I haven't seen an i7 notebook that lets you disable HT. I could be wrong on that.
     
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    That's a shame because it cuts down on heat a lot. 10c usually.
     
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    Just curious is for my Rig this 3DMark06 score sounds right, I know the processor is holding it way back and I do plan on getting a new one but for right now this is what I've got - ran it last night and got a 10,358. Might have to try increasing the GPU a little more... clocks are stable @ 650/1050/1600 right now but maybe can push just a bit more.
     
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    It's actually sad how little of an impact OC'ing the GPU has on a 3DMark06 score. The best way to improve your 06 score is to have the system do less in the background and keep the CPU as cool as possible.
     
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    3D Mark 03 is what you want then :).
     
  35. Mr Pras

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    You can use an app called Process Lasso to change affinities permanently (using a background service that monitors all processes). If you select the whole list of apps and set them all to 0 2 4 and 6 using PERSISTENT affinity, then they will remain only using those cores..

    For most practical purposes most apps will now only see 4 cores and then only use those cores and not the secondary threads.. This is as close as we can get to a NON HT situation. It does help with the temps also.. Quite a bit!! And helps games to be a little more responsive too.
     
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    So it does what task manager can do but also gives it the ability to be persistent.
     
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    There's a I5-520M for $220 on E-Bay or a I7-720QM for $300-400 depending where I buy from, any reccomendations on this? Or would I be better waiting for prices to come down a little? I'm sure I would get a performance upgrade with either but being I mainly game and do menial tasks I'm not sure the I7 would give me significant gains, nor the extra 800Mhz that a I5-520M would throw my way.
     
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    What about a 5870 upgrade? Do you prefer nvidia?
     
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    I mainly have used Nvidia in my desktops for the last few years, I think the last ATI Card I had was a 1900XTX back 4 years ago or so, but it's more just that I'm familiar with it.

    I'm actually really, really interested in getting the 5870, but being that I go in vast cycles with the computer knowledge I have, as in.... before I'm going to build a desktop I read up on everything, refresh myself with everything, get to know all the components and overclock the beast, but once stable I don't really touch any of that for 2 years or more at a stretch... and right now is a down period for me. If replacing the 260M with a 5870 would be something relatively idiot proof that I could get done in a hour or so, I think I would go that route.

    Don't get me wrong, I can build a desktop from scratch, so do you think throwing the 5870 in there would be fairly easy? I have been staring at hemi's thread and wanting to get one before they are all gone....
     
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    Basically yes :) and you can select ALL processes at once and change the affinity etc.
     
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    Really easy yes - well designed machine, I haven't changed my GPU only replaced the thermal grease. It would be only slightly more to replace the GPU itself. Very easy, the only awkward part is the seating of the fan and pipes (you'll see what I mean) but it's nothing a bit of force doesn't fix.
     
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    Wow! What a deal....

     
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    hahaha :p .
     
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    Doesn't seem like there is enough interest in the contest. Maybe I'll come up with something for the M17x.
     
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    When x-fire arrives? ;)
     
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    My system is coming in tomorrow. ;)
     
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    4870's? or 5870?
     
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    well, I gave it a fair shot, but without being able to overclock the CPU I cant get the CPU score high enough
     
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    Listen to the man ;)

    The GPU upgrade is going to give you more enjoyment than the CPU, IMO.

    The 5870 is a beast of a mobile card.
     
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