They will overclock further but are otherwise identical
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
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The 5850 may not reach 5870 OC levels but it should get close (800 mhz territory). After that it's a case of diminishing returns and the difference is minimal.
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I put two of these pads above the other.therefore I have 0.6mm and connection to the heatsink. the temperatures are without additional cooling.
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It seems the 5850s are voltage limited to 1.00, I have a feeling their the same card as the 5870, any ideas how I can get the voltage to 1.15 like many with the 5870 are doing? Also what are you best overclocks at 1.00 voltage?
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
It has been quiet regarding the 5850's. There is not one post yet in M15X Benchmark Thread for this card....yet.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Well you cannot expect the 5850 to outscore the much higher clocked (or overclocked) 5870s
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i don't know if this is old new or not but new gpuz 0.4.3 finally works.
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
How's the new bios working with this MOD so far?
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thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
its all working fine .. up until now... lol!!!
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Hey are you replacing your dual 4870 with the 5870? did it work?
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
Any new MOD's happening? Prices are down again you know...
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thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
babyhemi. there is a guy looking to buy ur cards.. but cant pay through paypal.. any other payment options...
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
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thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
lemme ask him for ya... how long does it take for money to be cleared into ur account...
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
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Guys, I am very tempted to add the 5870m into my m15x but have a question regarding noise. I have my 260m and the fan is quite quiet, it often only kicks up one notch but if I play something demanding (like bfbc2) it will kick up to the third setting.
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For me, whenever I play game the fan is very loud but I have a headphone on so it doesn't matter. For web browsing the fan is very quite. Just make sure to use the AMD GPU Clock to download clock it to 200/300 whenver you not playing game.
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Thanks mate, that is what I was expecting looking at the higher temps. I think I will stick with the 260m for now as the lack of powerplay and high noise are putting me off. (although gpu tool works, it doesnt drop voltage so you will still have a high idle wattage, on my clevo 870cu it idles at 50w whereas my m15x idles at 35w giving me much better battery life)
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Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative
Are you M15x owners with the 5870 having any of the issues with drivers and performance that the M17x owners are having in the thread below?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/477789-m17x-r2-out-hd5870-297.html -
everything good on my end even with new A06 bios and new 10.5 driver.
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So, i have been using my 5870m without downclocking it or anything, just leaving it at stock speed, is this ok? Dttran83, why do you downclock it? for the noise or?
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thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
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@ Mutoloco mostly is for the temperature but also the noise. Also with the 10.5 driver I got my frist BSOD yesterday while playing BF2 and whenever I play crysis my temp go up to 87C compare to 82C with 10.3. So I be sticking with 10.3.
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anyone tried to use the Dell drivers released couple of days ago? I know they are old, but I was hoping to get Sound over Dp to work. I cannot install them for some reason with windows telling me the drivers arent for my windows version
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I'm to cheap to upgrade to the 5870 (seriously 350 dollars for like what, 3-5 fps improvement compared to the 5850), so is it possible to overclock the 5850 version to the performance of a stock 5870? And if not possible, then what are the max idle/load temps in the m15x without frying your laptop. (I will not be using an external cooling mat).
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most people who upgrade to 5870 were 260m owner, and yes it is not worth it to upgrade from 5850. try to oc your card using amd clock tools. also can can probably flash your cards to 5870 stock speeds but i hav e yet to see anyone do this yet. judging from my experience with the 5870 the 5850 max temps should be fine without a cooler.
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BTW, why do people get the 260m? The 260m is 50 dollars more than the 5850m and yet the 5850m is GDDR3 while the 260m is GDDR3.Is it that the 260m comes with a larger power supply? /confuzzled
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its because at the time only the 240 and 260 were available, just only recently the 5850 was released. but some people perferr the nvidia because of phsx and cuda support for other 3d applications.
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BIG SALE!!!
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pic where ?!?!
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Yeah I definitely want to upgrade to the 5870. Stinks that I dont have cash. Only hundreds in best buy and amazon gift cards and they arent available on those sites.
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Hey guys, I have a problem here and I need some help.
I got the 5870 card installed, and got device manager to detect it. I could even bench the card and run games.... Problem is, after installing the 10.3 preview driver, then installing the 10.5 driver, I still don't get the card fully detected which can be seen here on the GPUz application(Under GPU its nor written as BROADWAY and certain values and not keyed in such as DirectX Support etc..). Due to this, I can't run AMD GPU Clock tools as you can see in the error message when I click on the application. And besides that, as you can see on my desktop, CCC is not present at all when you right click DESKTOP. How do I rectify this problem having tried the 'Power Drain' method and even opening the extraction folder and installing every installer available under packages/apps/ccc folder. For a brief moment CCC was visible on my desktop but nothing happens when you click it. Plus after a restart it disappears again. -
thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
Follow these steps ...
1. Uninstall the display drivers from Device Manager and select to delete driver files from computer.
2. Uninstall any ati software u have installed prior to this.
Uninstall amd gpu tool.
3. Run CCleaner.
4. Restart
5. Download drivers
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...4-bit_util.exe
6. Run the setup file.. It will download all the files to a folder.(C:\ATI\Support)
7. When everything is downloaded it will start the installation setup just cancel this setup.
8. Go to device manager
9. Update drivers for ur vga card and select the option for browse directory. Direct the computer to C:\ATI\Support\10-5_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF
10. Drivers Installed...
11. Download amd gpu tool from here http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=2383&file=7&evp=a48325aee585073b2f20a89f3f7038e7 -
Thanks whitewizard. But the link you posted for the driver download cannot be found
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ATI Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver
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Hi, received my HD5870 Yesterday. (thanks, babyhemi - it is work. ^_^)
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no one has powerplay that i know of, we do it manual with amd clock tools. and congrats on new card its awesome, looking forward to your benches.
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thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
Go to device manager.. Audio devices... There should be a high definition device listed.. update drivers and manually direct to this folder C:\dell\drivers\R259589\Packages\Drivers\WDM\HDMI\W764a
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Yeah I'll try it out in a little bit, sorry just got home and do some family time, haha
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thewhitewizard Notebook Evangelist
Did u get eyefinity to work with the 2 monitors u plugged in...
M15x + ATI 5870 (MOD)
Discussion in 'Alienware M15x' started by ethanh8791, Apr 9, 2010.