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    M15x + ATI 5870 (MOD)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M15x' started by ethanh8791, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. inap

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    yup tried it last night and had the same problem, dp is alway said to be unplugged. tried M17x 5870 driver and M15x 5850 driver, no luck with either one.
     
  2. inap

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    my personal favorite is the 10.3
     
  3. AncientFall

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    @Babyhemi-- very interested in purchasing one of your cards. Sent you an email.
     
  4. inap

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    can't go wrong with babyhemi's 5870, the prices are super sweet right now.
    also thanks babyhemi received the intel 6300 already, super fast shipping bro, also check out the sig. hahaha thanks bro
     
  5. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    That proves you got it! :D
     
  6. WillPower

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    hey guys really considering taking the plunge in getting the M15x and the DIY gfx upgrade to 5870 but have a couple of noobie questions that i was hoping u guys might be able to answer....

    from wat i have gathered the 5870 heatsink is from the clevo and regardless not compatible in the M15x system.

    and furthermore i need to grab the existing gfx card mounting bracket and heatsink so.... does anyone know if the ATI 5730 heatsink would be adequate for the 5870 or where i may find out?
    (coz the 5730 is the card i'd be considering getting to cut down on costs if im gonna upgrade it anyways)

    Please and thank you ^^
     
  7. inap

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    All m15x heatsinks are the same arcoss the board so no worries. Babyhemi is having a sale the 5870 so right now is a perfect time to buy them. Prices may go up once he runs out of stock of the current ones.
     
  8. WillPower

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    hey thanks inap!! i'm probably gonna be using ur guide to do it XD
     
  9. daranik

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    This definitely seems like a viable solution. Does putting the 5870 hamper battery life, even if you put the laptop in stealth mode? Next question is can you put a set of XFIRE 5870s in this laptop? This way I pretty much get my m17x set up plus more battery life for stealth mode.
     
  10. cookinwitdiesel

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    Well the M15x can only take one GPU.....

    you can put two in an M17x but the ones Hemi is selling do not have a crossfire connector....so that is pointless

    and no one has tried them in the R1 that I know of but I am pretty sure they do not work there
     
  11. inap

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    pretty much stealth mode no longer works, but you can down clock your card to save battery life. sorry no cf 5870 for M15x.
     
  12. daranik

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    So a new question then would be the performance of 1 5870 compare to 2 5870s in xfire non-existant? or is would ther be a huge performance bump really noticable ?

    EDIT: didnt see inappropriatename_3's post, so then would the power savings in when throttling down the 5870 in the m15x be still better then the m17x-R2?
     
  13. Wattos

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    yes, I can get up to 2 hours of battery when the gfx card is throttled down (manually)
     
  14. cookinwitdiesel

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    the M17x R2 and M15x can achieve about the same battery life if everything is downclocked and put in low power mode
     
  15. daranik

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    So then how much better is having 2 5870s in xfire compare to just one? does someone know this???

    Then theoretically i should be able to get 2 hours of usable word doc time? I mean all ill be running on battery is with stealth mode on, word doc and the occasional web browser? Would i get more milage out of the battery then? Right now my decision comes to this one element, the battery time in class while using word doc, if i can get it to last more the 1 class perferable 3 but 2 classes for sure at an hour a class.
     
  16. inap

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    well of course 2 cards will always be better than 1 card. but check out the benchmark thread for both, surprisingly right now the the performance gains aren't that huge, but maybe will be different once dell fixes their driver issue. having 2 cards doesn't mean doubling the performance, its more like 1.5 instead of 2 times better.
     
  17. Wattos

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    it always depends. Some games dont even support crossfire at all at release day and patch it only after. Sometimes you never get a patch. But in general I agree with Inap.
     
  18. daranik

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    Ya thats what i figured, but really money isnt the issue, id rather get the m17x with 2 to be one step ahead, but the battery is my biggest concern,
     
  19. inap

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    battery life is not a strong point for any gaming laptop. it just something you will have to deal with if you want a beast of a laptop. i suggest getting a extra battery or an M11x.
     
  20. daranik

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    I figured as much with all the hardware and junk, and i was thinking id buy 2 batteries and do the ol' swaparoo in class, but I mean for some word doc and web browser with stealth on all low settings, you figure 2+ hours ??
     
  21. inap

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    yeah you can get 2 hours if you do some tweaking, i get a little under 1.5 hr on my 9 cell with everything blasting at a 100%.
     
  22. cookinwitdiesel

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    If they still offered the R1 with the WUXGA screen, I would just recommend that if battery like is your goal. Due to the integrated graphics you can pull 3.5 hours of battery like with it. Unfortunately though they don't offer it with the better screen anymore :(

    How much gaming do you do? Maybe an M11x would be all you need.....and it still gets netbook class battery life
     
  23. inap

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    yeah i'm pretty jealous of your r1 scook9, man 3.5 hours is so sweet, plus the performance when you need it. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
     
  24. daranik

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    Well currently on my ps3 ALOT, but its dying so im trying to kill 2 birds with one stone. Get gaming and a laptop for school just to do some basic word doc and web browser. so this thing will probably be running all day most likely from one to the other. Battery life needs to be atleast marginal, Be able to handle atleast 3 classes 2 min without having to find a jack, if i knew all my classes had power outlets id be fine. but I dont.

    At school all setting will be low and on stealth, I just chatted with a lady at dell and she says min of 4 hours in these settings for the m17x 9-cell, I understand shes trying to sell a product, but she said 4-6 hour on that batt. Is this realistic or no?
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

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    She is lying, that is plain and simple. You may be well served to just order the M17x with 5870cf and also get a 2nd battery
     
  26. inap

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    4-6 i really doubt it, best to check with M17x owners.

    oops didn't see you there scook, lol
     
  27. daranik

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    Haha ya, im going to start a thread as of right now . I didnt believe when she typed it anyways, she didnt seem like she was from this continent. Thanks for the opinions buds.


    EDIT; LOL I already have one up , wow its a friday!!!!
     
  28. WillPower

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    oh so stealth mode no longer works after the 5870 is installed? =S
     
  29. Wattos

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    well, no but you can do it manually by using AMD clock tool.
     
  30. AncientFall

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    Do the most current drivers from ATI work well with the 5870?
     
  31. inap

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    Current drivers works ok, but older seems to have better performance.
     
  32. razor_v1

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    where can I buy the 5870? I could not find it on ebay :S
     
  33. inap

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    go to nbr market place, babyhemi should have them listed there.
     
  34. Insayneee

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    You should get some commission. ;)
     
  35. AncientFall

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    I can also confirm that Babyhemi is a very nice and prompt individual. For anyone that might have a slight worry in the back of their mind he provided very prompt answers to all of my questions. Real stand up guy! Appreciate it Babyhemi!!
     
  36. WillPower

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    noobie question how come the stealth mode doesnt work? is it just for the 5870 or all ATI cards?
     
  37. LOUSYGREATWALLGM

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    Current driver worth nothing to use then? Which driver you guys with 5870 prefer to use?
     
  38. AncientFall

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    Whenever I recieve my 5800 series card I will be using the latest drivers to test them out. I wouldn't see why the new 10.5 catalyst drivers wouldn't be very good.
     
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    Hi all! I have a big ?. I succesfully instaled a 5870 from eurocom in my hp firebird, but the CCC is the only problem, install but no load. Any input will be cool. Thanks
     
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    mmm i could not find it, can u give me the adress... thaks in advance!
     
  41. inap

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    Nice pictures!
     
  43. inap

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    does 5870 come stock for any hp system, try to find that stock driver and use that to install your ccc.
     
  44. AncientFall

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    Guys I need help big time. I put the 5870 inside the laptop, installed the 10.5 ati driver manually from Device Manager. I goto run Windows Index and when it first starts to run the DX9 test the laptop shuts off. I have put thermal pads on the RAM banks, and MX3 thermal paste on the die. I have done this three different times with no luck. Any suggestions? I'm confused. The video card shouldn't be overheating that fast to shut the computer down.
     
  45. Wattos

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    Try the 10.4 or 10.3 driver. For me the 10.5 was kinda buggy. Also, run AMD GPU Clock tool and go to the Thermal Sensors tab. you can monitor the temps there and also log them to a file. Since your pc restarts, try logging them to a file and hope that the buffers get flushed before the shutdown.

    Also, what is your temp on idle?
     
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    To those whom have responded to my problem a few days back. Just to update that I got CCC Running and installed. The problem lies in the extraction folder and after re-downloading the 10.5 catalyst full suite, the CCC Setup folder and files were complete and thus allowed a full installed which had to be done manually by looking up the files under Packages/Apps/CCC . However though I've udpated to the newest 10.5 driver from AMD, I still can't get my card detected fully as seen in the picture of a screenshot I have uploaded below. Pay attention to the areas circled and a quick comparison with those whom have the drivers fully installed would show that mine still doesn't have a proper name BROADWAY and instead is given a codename 68A0. DirectX Support values are still unstated thus rendering it impossible to run AMD GPU Clock tools and seen on my screen as an error message "No Valid Device Detected"....

    I'm out of ideas as to handle this :confused: as I have just started from scratch from my previous attempt. :(

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hey,

    Try using a later version of GPU-Z. The current version is 0.4.3. Under catalyst, I get the same device ID. Also, which version of GPU clock tool are you running? Try using the latest
     
  48. inap

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    try to do a bios reset, open up the bottom of laptop, then unplug the coin battery connector, then do the power drain trick. then reconnect and boot up. as devise id i get the same 68A0. as for gpu-z make sure it the newest version available, otherwise it would not read right. did you reinstall steam or was it already installed when you replaced the gpu. if it was pre existing, the issues is it install when you have a 260 and its trying to find your 260. a reinstallation should fix that problem.
     
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    @Wattos, Innappropriatename

    Ok, Did what you guys mentioned and realised that both software versions I am using was outdated. So I got newer versions for both and it detects the 5870 now. I'd like to thank you guys for the final piece of the puzzle to complete my install.... thanks.... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

    [​IMG]
     
  50. Wattos

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    Glad to know it works now ^^
     
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