Precision 7730,5530,7530 (Coffee Lake) pre-release

The ALPS touchpad does have some gesture support but it uses its own drivers for this, it does not have Windows Precision touchpad support.

That said, I just checked the ALPS touchpad control panel on my 7510 and it does support four finger swipe for switching desktops (I've never used it). I frequently use the two-finger scrolling feature as well and I don't have any complaints with it.

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I remembered where I got 210W from, it is the maximum power draw from the TB18DC dock. @Bokeh, I don't suppose they also gave you a dock to test with? With the system pulling over 230W from the wall under load with the P5200 GPU, it seems like there will be a (hopefully minor) performance penalty if using the dock.

 

Yep. The dock was plugged in when testing. 231 at the wall is probably ~210 out after heat losses from AC - DC conversion. It looks like 210 is what the 7730 will pull either plugged in or through the dock.

The TB-18DC is very close to the TB-16. Chunkier cable for all of the power delivery and more heatsink area at the dock end of the cable. Seems to be more stable than the TB-16 was in the very early days of that device. The TB-16 has been great for at least 18 months now. The TB-18DC seems to has skipped those early growning pains.

 

Yup, same goes for memory. Just waiting for the Ubuntu option to order with the least memory and smallest SSD, and update right off the bat.

 

Yeah it's long been true for memory — it's gotten a lot better than it used to be though, just a couple hundred extra (for large memory configurations... vs the DOUBLING going on with SSDs in some cases) and I will typically pay the extra bit to get the memory through Dell, just to have it lumped in with the rest of the system with regards to warranty.

Prices for SSDs are particularly bad, though. Kind of sad for the SSD though because you have to actually upgrade to the 256GB NVMe drive which I think is around $220, you can throw that away and still come out ahead when buying a best-in-class 1TB drive separately (vs the cost of getting the 1TB from Dell — and it's a faster drive to boot). And, I saw that they are asking $1600 if you add a 2TB NVMe drive as a second/third drive which seems completely crazy to me (brand new NVMe Samsung 970 EVO 2TB is half that price). I'm sure there are lots of other configurations that don't make sense.

 

So, the TB18DC dock still comes with a 240W power supply? I wondered if they would increase it. Since the TB16 came with 240W but only delivered 130W to the system, I figured that the dock itself needed a fair amount of power overhead (but I never measured it). Otherwise, why would they not just provide a 180W power supply with this dock?

I've been rattling for some new dev workstations at the office and I seem to have management onboard... I think we will be ordering three 7530s (with TB18DC docks) next week

 

I tried the 330W power adapter that comes with the AW17 and the power pull was the same. I don't have a 210W fat dock from 8 years ago to try any more.

The P3200 being available makes the 7530 really attractive, but once the 17" system is a part of your normal workflow, it is hard to go back. I am glad to see that the 7730 shrunk though. I had been doing VR testing on the AW17 and even though it is good at what it does, it really is too big to carry around. The 7730 seems to fit in most backpacks made for 15.6" systems.

One thing to note about the P5200 - it is pretty much a DESKTOP Quadro P5000. It appears to be within 10% of the performance of the 1080 GTX OC in the AW17. I am absolutely floored by the jump the GPU made in the 7730.

 

For $1800 extra though Still a huge Quadro tax

 

I'd sort of like to go 17" but I think it would push the budget a bit too far for too little gain in my use case. I don't want to go without a discrete GPU, but I don't do much high-end graphics at work (software development), so I'm basically looking at around $800 or so just to get from 7530 to 7730 — That's with the difference in the base price of both systems plus being forced to buy a P3200 (vs P1000 in the 7530). Work system spends most of its time docked anyway, so no big deal...

I'm saving up to replace my home system and that will definitely be 17", but probably looking at Precision 7750 timeframe for that one...

 

Hoping the WX-7100 option is more reasonable.

 

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just to add to what aaron said about alps touchpad, here are some screenshots of the dell/alps touchpad settings on my 7710. sounds like 7730 will work much the same.



multi finger gestures for me included mostly 3 fingers...

swipe three up and it gives a "task view":



swipe three down and it minimizes all
swipe three left or right and it cycles through task view like you are doing alt-tab or alt-shift-tab

hold all three down without swiping to "quick launch" ie. perform an action (minimize all, blank/black screen, lock computer, open browser, open email client, cortana, or run).

hold all four down for another quick launch action.

I actually use the touchpad without a mouse whenever I'm not docked, which is often, and I like it alot. The two finger gestures work great for zoom and scroll. My coworker has alps touchpad too though, but doesn't like using it... he's a mouse guy exclusively.