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Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by scrlk, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. SoftDev

    SoftDev Notebook Enthusiast

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    That looks like a good option. Would that need a special adapter to connect a Thunderbolt1 to a TB3 port?

    I'm wondering about this USB 3.1 gen2 option. It's not clear to me if the TB15 dock TB3 port can be connected to a USB 3.1 gen2 device -- I found a Startech cable that looks like it will make the connection, I just don't know if this makes sense.

    https://www.akitio.com/desktop-storage/nt2-u31 $99
     
  2. ygohome

    ygohome Notebook Deity

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    that's a good point. I'll still need an adapter for the thunderbolt type c to whatever cradle/toaster I use. Hmmm. Back to sqaure one for me. That akitio looks like it might be worth trying. It appears that if the front cover is left off it may be very similar to acting like a toasterdock. I'd worry though in that I've not had good experience with USB3 super speed devices. It would require using a USB3 port of our laptops or else search for an adapter for our Thunderbolt3 type c.
     
  3. dyseac

    dyseac Newbie

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    Well, mine arrived today to replace a 6+ year old first gen i7 M6500 and I must admit overall I am disappointed. Overall build quality doesn't appear half as good as the old girl. Also unsure if I need to configure further but track pad appears very average for a premium product. Also, Thickness / size is not that much better. For the sacrifice of the quality I would rather carry the extra 1kg.

    All the features are fine and as expected good performance, but seriously, WHAT THE **** is with the IGZIO screen ? what a bucket of ****. I can't believe they would even consider this IPS competition. Thoroughly dissapointed. The edge bleeding, the colour overall... the lack of viewing angle ?? so much for a premium screen. I seriously wish I had have ordered the 1080p IPS instead (3k on 15" is kind of illogical anyway..). My lenovo yoga 14 puts this to shame with screen quality.... what a damn shame.... in my country I paid twice the price of the highest model mac book pro... :(
     
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  4. SoftDev

    SoftDev Notebook Enthusiast

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    The akitio Thunder3 says it has a "no tool" method of adding/removing drives. While not as convenient as a toaster, I think it will be acceptable for my purposes. I don't swap drives more than twice a month. The real power of the Thunder3 is the flexibility for when you want some form of RAID -- that appears to be the only configuration that really starts to utilize the bandwidth provided by Thunderbolt 3, especially if you use SSD drives.

    I'm now feeling as if using regular hard drives is really the limiting factor here when just using a single drive for backups. That is, no matter how fast the port, the hard drive cannot take full advantage of anything faster than USB 3.1 gen1. Take a look at this benchmark that akitio provides at the bottom of the page -- https://www.akitio.com/desktop-storage/nt2-u31 -- that shows that even using USB 3 gen2 that there is only a small increase in throughput.

    Meantime, I asked Dell tech suport if the TB3 port supports USB 3.1 gen2 directly and he said no. I think that means that you might be able to use an adapter (TB3 to USB3.1 gen2) if you want to use 3.1 gen2.

    I'm thinking that the Dell TB15 docking I purchased does not provide with me with much value since my e-port dock at least had esata. I'm sure I'll ultimately make good use of it, but for now not too sure.

    Bottom line for me at this point is stick with my e-port dock, but if I decide to switch to TB3 dock, I'll just live with USB 3 gen1 drive caddy. Later when 2 TB SSDs come down in cost I'll switch to them and then purchase the akitio thunder3.
     
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    The touch pad tracking/movement/responsiveness has actually been quite good on my 7710 (which i think is similar if not the exact same as that on the 7510). The touchpad buttons do not feel very premium in that they are a bit clunky and not well stabilized. But they work for me reliably. The touchpad gestures have been great, in my opinion. I do wish there was a swipe gesture to navigate forward and backward in a browser, but Alt+arrows works well for that.

    I typically do not use the trackpad but today I am as I forgot to pack my mouse when I left for the library. The big grievance I have about the trackpad is that the TouchGaurd is basically useless. Touchgaurd is supposedly to prevent accidental cursor movement when your palms graze across the touch pad during typing. All touchgaurd appears to do is set a delay so that if you tap it, it won't pick up on that tap right away. But it has no intelligence to discern accidental touches. It is only a delay, which sucks. My mouse will wonder as I type because my left palm will often move the cursor elsewhere in a document as I'm typing and then screw up my paragraph.

    I circumvent that issue by disabling touchpad tapping. I can only click/tap by using the touchpad buttons. My m6500 touchpad acts the same by the way.

    The pointstick is even more useless and unresponsive many times. But I've never liked pointstick erasor method except in the early IBM thinkpads before touchpads existed.
     
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  6. buffgato

    buffgato Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just received my replacement 7510 from Dell. The replacement process took 11 days in total - I requested it on the 17th, and I received the computer on the 28th. The new one actually came in different packaging, so that's random and kind of weird - it came in a large box containing two smaller boxes (one for the computer, one for the accessories), whereas the original was just a single smaller box.

    The new computer has the same screen heat issue as the previous one (D'OH!), but there's less backlight bleed so that's a plus. The new one runs the fans like crazy! The fans were running full blast from the moment I turned it on, and they continue to run even when the computer is sitting idle. Might need to poke around in the settings a bit, or else that's going to be real annoying. I don't remember changing any settings on the first one though... Strange.
     
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  7. nepO

    nepO Notebook Guru

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    Could you please share your experience with Dell 7510 when compared to HP 8570w?
    - Does 7510 has a better/worse build quality?
    - Have you experienced anything unusual/uncomfortable during the first few days after switching to 7510?
    - Is there anything missing in 7510 that 8570w had?
    - Have you considered HP and Lenovo alternatives before purchasing this Dell and if so do you still think you made a right choice?

    Would you be kind enough to share performance results for your HP and Dell workstations using www.userbenchmark.com?
     
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    My 7510 has the exact same issue. My guess is the electronics for the display are right under the Dell logo at the bottom of the screen.
     
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    Yeah... At this point, I'm pretty convinced that the hot spot underneath the screen is totally normal. But when I asked the Dell reps about it, they told me it was abnormal (hence the replacement computer). If there's anything I've learned from this whole experience, it's that their support people know absolutely nothing. So much back and forth with them, what a waste of time... *sigh*
     
  10. dyseac

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    Can anyone with the UHD IGZIO screen let me know if the monitor is installed as something other than Generic PnP ? I can't find drivers for this anywhere.. Thanks heaps :)
     
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