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Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by scrlk, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. karman

    karman Notebook Geek

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    I use powerful, but still basic configuration (Core i5-6300 HQ, AMD FirePro W5170M and PCIe-NVME SSD), so my unit is cool, quiet and throttling-free even under full load. Probably some more powerful configurations could be louder, however the cooling system is very efficient (two big fans, two heatpipes, big ventilation holes on rear edge).
    I have nothing against Windows, but Linux is simply much better: more secure, stable and reliable. You can install and update all software from repository (not only operation system components), you get security updates in minutes/hours (not days/weeks), you can decide about your own privacy, you have to accept only GPL licence (not damn EULA) etc.

    Me and my girlfriend, we use Linux for everything, especially graphic design (Inkscape, GIMP), photo retouch (Darktable, GIMP), programming (PHP, C++) and a lot more. For few weeks my mother and sister (totally IT beginners) use Linux (Debian stable) too and without my help.

    In my opinion Debian is probably the best operating system in the world. However, I have experienced some troubles with AMD FirePro graphic drivers on Dell Precision 7510, so I migrated to Ubuntu which is Debian-based.
     
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  2. Adamcs

    Adamcs Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not that I don't believe it, but where can I find those tests?
     
  3. karman

    karman Notebook Geek

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    Here you have Lenovo P50 review: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P50-Workstation-Review.158713.0.html
    Now just compare two Dell Precision 7510. Dell offers removable battery just under cover and full access to the hole interior with just two screws and battery.

    Lenovo P50 UHD display has only 100% NTSC covered. Dell Precision 7510 UHD display has 100% AdobeRGB coverd. If you do not know, AdobeRGB is much wider than sRGB and NTSC.

    [​IMG]

    According to above results, please do not mislead other users any more. Dell Precision 7510 has much better display and case than Lenovo P50.
     
  4. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    Actually, NTSB & AdobeRGB cover approximately the same number of colors. They're just not all the same colors. Both cover significantly more colors than sRGB.

    Your point about access and upgradeability stands, though. Based on the manufacturer claims and Notebook Check's P50 review, it appears that both systems have similar 4k screens but the Precision is easier to access, repair, and upgrade.
     
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  5. VMH

    VMH Notebook Enthusiast

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    I received my 7510 today and been testing it.

    Windows 8.1 Pro, Intel i7-6820HQ, 1080p Touchscreen, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Quadro M2000M.

    The first thing I noticed was there were some sound coming out from the laptop and were always on. They are not loud. I put a flash light into the fan ports to see if those were from the fans but weren't. The fans werent on. Those spinning sounds were running at low speed even if the laptop just sat still doing nothing.

    After using a while, the noise started to bother me a little so I decided to install my Samsung 840 EVO SSD and install a flesh copy of Windows 10 Pro, and also all of Dell drivers.

    After the installations, laptop was dead quiet. Literally no more sound at all. Then I use the benchmark software and after a while I can hear the fans come on but not loud and then turn off after a little bit after the benchmark. They run at low speed as before with the Windows 8.1. The laptop is also not as warm as before.

    I also tried turning off the switchable graphic card in the BIOS and had no problem.

    I am very happy with this laptop now. I'm going to upgrade the RAM next.

    See attachment for the benchmark results. Windows 8.1 with HDD on the left and Window 10 with SSD on the right. Best wishes!
     
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  6. karman

    karman Notebook Geek

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    100% NTSC means only 91,2% AdobeRGB. Source: https://www.noteloop.com/kit/display/color-space/ntsc-1953/
    In official documents Lenovo does not define, if UHD display gamut means 100% sRGB or NTSC. If it is 100% sRGB, it makes only 85,7% AdobeRGB. Source: https://www.noteloop.com/kit/display/color-space/srgb/ Displays for photographers, photo retouchers, web designers should cover 100% of AdobeRGB and sRGB not less.

    Both systems are good, but Dell Precision has: better display, case and cooling system. Do not argue with that, it is a fact. The only one advantage of Lenovo is built-in colorimeter. If you use Dell, you would have to pay some money for ColorMunki Display (same hardware as i1DisplayPro).
     
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    oruvin Notebook Guru

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    W5170M is 2 years old (was used in HP's Zbook 15 G2).
     
  8. karman

    karman Notebook Geek

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    Notebookcheck said it is really new card announced 2nd of October 2015. Source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-FirePro-W5170M.151620.0.html

    Edit: I have checked the AMD website: http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/workstation/firepro-mobility# Check the sheet Specs. It looks like AMD FirePro W5170M is a new card and it is available in Dell Precision 7510/7710. For HP ZBook 15 it was FirePro M5100.

    The official HP`s document claims ZBook 15 G2 has AMD FirePro M5100 card: http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04407527.pdf M5100 is the only one AMD FirePro available for ZBook 15 G2.
     
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  9. oruvin

    oruvin Notebook Guru

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    HP Zbook 15 G2 was released with W5170M (check this older version of the specs - http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/getpdf.aspx/c04407527.pdf?ver=1.0), and still some models are sold with W5170M (http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=J8Z45ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB).

    Here's comment about AMD's "release":
    Anyway, here is screen of 7510 itself, see "Release Date" field:

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    Just as NTSC is only 91.2% of AdobeRGB, AdobeRGB is only 92.8% of NTSC
    https://www.noteloop.com/kit/display/color-space/adobe-rgb/ ;)

    As I don't have either system, but am interested in mobile workstation progress, my goal is to find out more about each. If you've got a Precision 7510, I would guess you're very happy with it based on your assertions. Personally, though, I'm waiting for more detailed reviews of both systems.

    From the limited bits I've read about each system, the Lenovo P50 seems to have very good cooling, great keyboard & touchpad, good 4k screen but subpar 1920x1080 screen, generally good build quality (better in chassis than lid), and good battery life. It has problems with hardware access & upgrades, and CPU turbo frequency.

    I've read much less about the Dell 7510, but from what I've read so far, it has a good 4k screen, easy hardware access and upgradability, and good build quality. It has problems with poor battery life and overly active fans.
     
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