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Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by scrlk, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. silverchairbg

    silverchairbg Notebook Geek

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    Thanks @Hammer500, indeed it is the same. Would you know of any other Dell machine (not necessarily laptop, could be USDT or AIO) that uses M1000M card? I'm trying to upgrade an USDT machine of my own and according to people who succeeded, mostly dell cards work. This vbios does get the card showing as properly working under Windows 10, but it cannot be utilised i.e. can only be seen when the intel video is ON, it does not output video signal on its own. I tried various UEFI/legacy variants, neither helped.
     
  2. Aaron44126

    Aaron44126 Notebook Prophet

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    Precision 5510 also has a Quadro M1000M option. In this system, though, the chip is integrated on the motherboard (it is not a separate card) and it is "stuck" in Optimus mode, there is no way to get a direct output from the GPU.

    As far as I know these are the only systems that Dell has sold with this GPU.
     
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    Thank you both!
     
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    scmoky Newbie

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    New bios for us. Better battery managament :)
     
  5. hadaak

    hadaak Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone running more than 64GB of ram with the m7510 Intel Core i7-6820HQ?
    I know Intel states 64GB max.
    I've been running 64GB for about 4 years now. I use a lot of vms. I max to 60GB sometimes.
    I ordered a 32GB single module from amazon to test.
    Will report back.
     
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  6. hadaak

    hadaak Notebook Consultant

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    So I got the samsung 32GB module today. I removed two 16GB and installed the 32GB. The M7510 boots up. I go into the BIOS and there I see 2x16GB modules and 1x 32GB module BUT the bios sees 49GB memory available which means it takes only 16GB of ram from the 32GB module. I booted the beast into windows 10. Windows shows 64GB or ram but only 47GB usable !
    I will remove all the modules tonight and test the 32GB alone to see what I get.
     
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    hadaak Notebook Consultant

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    I installed the single 32GB module alone and I have 32GB memory available. Interesting :)
    I then added one 16GB module and I get 49GB of memory available. So the system does accept 32GB of ram in a single module.
    I guess I'll need to buy another couple of 32GB modules to really know if this system can go beyond the advertised 64GB.
     
  8. hadaak

    hadaak Notebook Consultant

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    I redid the test.
    1 32GB module in the slot under the keyboard
    1 16GB module in the slot under the keyboard
    2x 16GB on the other two slots on the bottom.
    Result => BIOS reports 4 modules with correct size but says 64GB available.
    Windows 10 says: 80.0 GB (63.9 usable)
    Bios show memory mode: Single.
    So maybe the system is capped at 64GB due to the i7 max ram limit. Or may I should push it further and get another 32GB to have 2 slots with 32GB and 2 slots with 16GB and see if I get 96GB of ram.
     
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  9. hadaak

    hadaak Notebook Consultant

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    I did play further with ram configuration and I think the system is capped.
    I used the 2x4GB I originally bought with the system and instead of having 68GB I still get 64GB.
    1X 32GB => 32GB
    2x 16GB => 32GB
    1x 4GB => 4GB

    Total should be 68GB. Bios sees all ram modules correctly but displays: 64GB available.
    I will upload the different module/slot configurations so you can see how the system configures single vs dual ram usage type.
     
  10. michael2333

    michael2333 Newbie

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    Hey guys, long time owner here finally decided to do some upgrades and fixes, found a few things wanted to share and also ask for help.

    bought my Xenon M2000M 4k unit "new" from dell outlet and it has been running farily well for the past 3+ years, recently started shutting off due to overheating and I took it apart to clean the fans and re-apply thermal pastes.

    Broke a tiny tab on the palm rest and thought why not refurbish the laptop a little so I orderd a new bottom enclosure and used palm rest.

    Some longer time ago I actually dropped my backpack with the laptop in it and a mouse receiver still plugged in which deformed both the bottom enclosure and port, the port still works but I can't plug devices in all the way otherwise it's like past the contacting point and the device would disconnect. Anyway, found a nice surprise that the plastic part of the USB port was pushed out and I simply pushed it back in and it works like new again. I have to say these laptops are built to last if not anything else.

    The case replacement went fine and only modification required was new adhesive for the front LED board cable.

    Then I found out replacing the thermal paste did not help with the temps, and due to some unrelated reasons I ended up replacing the heatsink and voila the temperatures dropped massively to ~60C running 3D applications that would trigger thermal shutoffs before. I figure the old heatsinks must be filled with dust, those of you with thermal issues might want check you actual heatsink fins for blockage as I did clean my fans abeit not too often.

    Now here comes the palmrest, my factory config did not come with fingerprint and NFC, the first palmrest I orderd was the correct part # for 7510 and 7520s with the large gold type sensor, after installing drivers NFC works but ControlVault was stuck in w/o fingerprint sensor state and hardware ID was 5832 instead of 5834 which is what it's supposed to be. Fiddled around quite a bit with ControlVault software, firmware, driver, and Dell Encryption, no luck. I did notice the actual USH board was the exact same model number as my original non fingerprint one, seller didn't know anything of the technical stuff so I returned this palmrest.

    While waiting for second brand new one (part number shows 7520 only with the smaller square black colored sensor), I found this interesting blog post about enabling NFC functionality for linux, using a broadcom tool ushdiag.exe running on dos command lines. I tried that but apparently it's only for older generation laptops equipped with ControlVault whereas the 7510 has ControlVault 2. There was a comment on that blog linking to a github repository where there is a python script to achieve the same goal (enabling NFC) for the newer USH module but unfornaturely nothing about the fingerprint reader, my linux skills are quite rusty and I did not dig deeper into that.

    Then the second brand new palmrest arrived and what i noticed this time was the moment i booted up windows there were a notification saying firmware upgrade in progress, after everything was said and done, the device manager still shows w/o finger sensor and same hardware id. I wonder if the machine actually changed the USH setting into non fingerprint again?

    During the process of messing with the drivers and stuff I actually broke my OS so I did a fresh install of windows 10 1909 but it's all the same. Might be worth mentioning is that these new palmrest does have NFC hardware but it's not present in device manager.

    All the info I could find was based on the older systems, but I think in princple they do apply to 7510 except for the fact all of the older softwares doesn't work:

    ushdiag.exe can turn on and off individual devices connected to the USH borad, including NFC, contacted smart card, and fingerprint.

    FIPS compliant mode requires NFC to be turned off and Dell also lists an utility for the older models to disable NFC specifically for this purpose.

    and from my observations:

    palmrest 1 (used) could have had its USH board replaced with one that was actually from a non-fingerprint machine (the adhesive was obvisouly non-stock)

    palmrest 2 (new) was indeed brand new but the USH board might require some sort of flashing for it to fully function/enable all devices attached to it? (same as writing service tage after a MB replacement?)

    the new palmrest even came with a little piece of paper from Dell that litreally says something like after replacing palmrest ... download latest ... fingerprint driver from dell ... to avoid loss of functionality.

    worst case secenario guess: both palmrest actually works 100% (palmrest 2 simply were meant for FIPS models and NFC was disabled) but my TPM/some other chip on MB/BIOS was preventing fingerprint from working? I did try flashing BIOS again and resetting it, clear, disable, and enable TPM but still no luck. At this point I am simply scratching my head now.
     
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