Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

On the Dell business side, the only laptops that would be suitable are the Precision or maybe a high-end Latitude, which both typically share the same keyboard layout. The Precision allows for massive amounts of RAM which assists with running multiple VMs, throw in the ease of upgradeability/maintainabilty, there really isn't a more suitable machine for my work.

Fortunately the previous generation had a perfectly good keyboard so I don't need to upgrade soon... Just hope they get this worked out before that time comes.

I'll shut up about this now, there has been enough discussion about the Home/End in several threads.

 

I really love my M6500, but it's so heavy I actually broke two backpacks and dropped it twice. Once which required me to buy a shell to replace. I dreaded that the second time arouso I fixed it best I could and use it as my desktop machine. This is easily 2lbs lighter than the 6500, and the power brick doesn't resemble one in size and weight as that 240W beast.

So far I've been happy with its performance (using Adobe CS5, OneCNC XR4 Mill Expert (upgrading soon to XR6). Also auditioning several CAD programs as well, though I prefer to own than rent on the cloud. I'd like to run some older XP programs using VMs as well as audition some apps in Linux. Have Hyper-V set up, just need some free time to load the OSs...

 

Owners of the version with the Xeon e5-1535M v5 ... can you please comment on the temperatures that it reachs under very high load (stressing the CPU with prime95, cpuburn or something like that).

For how long is it able to run without throttling the cpu frequency?

 

Part of this has been answered before: If you use multi-key combinations, like Ctrl-Shift-End, which now becomes Ctrl-Shift-Fn-End, then things become a major pain. Fiddling with the trackpad to achieve this? I can only assume you are kidding here, because this has got to be a joke... Like I said in another thread, why not get rid of more keys that way? Hey, who needs a tilde key, really? TWO shift keys? What for?

At the end of the day, the point is this: There was no rational reason, none at all, to demote a set of keys that are essential for many of those very people that do serious work on a computer. Note also that, as far as I know, Dell has done this for their entire line of "business-class" machines. For the 7710, we are talking about a 17" desktop replacement that certainly has plenty of space to accommodate these keys. Only a complete idiot would take away, for no good reason, what is obviously an essential feature for many.

Thankfully we have other options, however. For myself, I'm done with Dell. As a minor aside, this is coming from someone who has directed spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on Dell systems during the last 14 years. Oh well, it was good while it lasted. Time to give the other brands a serious look.

 

Well I thought about Lenovo's new P series but frankly I was a bit concerned being they announced in August as being the first mobile Xeon laptops, then becoming vaporware until just recently. The Dell's not perfect and there will always be those who don't agree with the changes. Fine, I'm not a big fan of that either. But now these people are idiots... really?

For those that have this machine and can't cope with the new layout, or on the fence, you can get free software like AutoHotKey or SharpKeys and assign two or three key presses to one. I'm not saying this is the holy grail, but may be useful to some.

 

Dell pretty much only sells quad core processors in the Precisions among their business machines; no quad-core option in a Latitude except the E6540, and that one was largely deprecated once the M2800 came out. Also, memory: a lot of programmers need huge amounts of it (IDE + one or more app servers/instances + one or more database servers, and/or a couple of VMs...)

[edit: I'm very pleased to see that's changed back with the 5470 and 5570...]

We don't need big video cards, at all (unless working on games or graphics-heavy applications); if they'd offer this with a Iris Pro CPU and no discrete graphics, that would be a plus for most software developers (at least unless also running games for personal use, in which case a gaming discrete GPU would be preferable.)

The existing Haswell and Broadwell Latitude models (and the outgoing M4800/M6800) still have a more traditional layout, although given that the 3510 is probably a preview of the Latitude model replacing the E6540, that may not be true once the Skylake Latitudes finally come out.

 

Is it possible to enable HDD Password (storage hardware encryption) in Precision 7510 with PCIe NVMe SSD? Any of you have such option in BIOS?

 

Yes, really. If I make design decisions for a product, there must be reasons for any such decision. Randomly taking away core functionality is a recipe for disaster.

Ask yourself this question: What benefits of the new layout can you identify, as compared to the M6800, say? How many people have you heard of that were complaining about previous keyboard layouts? How many users have said things like, "Damn, I just wish those Home and End keys were gone"? Who, among the millions and millions of potential users of laptops, has asked for a keyboard layout like this?
Now, back to my point above: Why, then, would anyone in their right mind change a keyboard layout in such a way?

 

It's for Dell's benefit; not the user's.

One SKU for keyboards between many models simplifies part ordering logistics and reduces cost. When you include the overall user base of all the precision and latitudes and wherever else this keyboard ends up, home and end probably see (a lot) less use than say, the track forward/backward keys.

I'm not agreeing with the decision to put this small layout in a 17" laptop, just answering your question.


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that doesn't justify it. Modern manufacturing adapts to customer needs, not vice versa.